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Spy360:
If you think justice was served then I pity you because there will be no hope for any of us as long as election petitions are concerned.

I asked a simple question, tell me what Atiku or Obi could have done to prove they won.

For your information, Agent copies are secondary evidences. Primary evidence are INEC CTCs.

The trick the justices used was to ask Obi to calculate his results before petition. How can he do so...
1. INEC refused to release BVAS for inspection.
2. INEC cleaned the BVAS and asked them to use IREV.
3. INEC did not release the IREV copies until petitions were filed.
4. The IREV copies were unreadable

So in essence, the justices blamed Obi for what INEC did.

Apart from this, in order to ensure that the LP petition does not rope them, they knocked off witness statements of 10 of the 13 witnesses called including those on subpoena.

Jungle justice.

Lol, Maybe you need to read the court judgement of how Natasha akpoti of Kogi state reclaim her mandate yesterday.

She tendered hard copy result from her Polling unit agent to show that the one declared by INEC is wrong and she was the winner of the election.

The results were recalculated and she was declared winner.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Elections have not even finished, and you are talking of peaceful protest?

Kuku carry fuel and burn down this country.

Results are coming in. Those who are aggrieved are gathering evidences to head to court, and you are already talking of protests?

Bross [/color]

Izzou as always, with his contrarian pessimism.
Izzou how far the courts you had hope in? Are you happy that your vote and votes of other obidients was ultimately meaningless?

Unlimited22:
Egbon calm down and watch events. It took PO 3 years to beat Ngige in court.

Ah ahn. Haba.

Unlimited, you shut me down for calling for protests during the rigging, now you've seen the meaninglessness of the courts, what say you?

Called it.

Donjazet2:
Oga I don't fvcking care if this country burns to the ground anymore. What sort of rubbish is all these??
If you think you are popular, why not let the people decide

Why not let people vote their minds and you see the results?
How will the youths of this country decide to peacefully channel their grievances about the country at the polls and then you end up robbing them blind? Extinguishing that hope?

This was a unique opportunity for us and they stole it from us.
This would be very easy if we could we see that our movement was not strong enough, that the ignorant ones heavily outnumbered us. Fine, we would have accepted it in good faith. But for us to come out in our numbers only for you to cancel those numbers and start rewriting and tippexing and declaring the wrong figures in the night and then expecting us to accept the robbery in peace, we didn't sign up for that.

He still does this till today, supporting injustice so far as it factors his bias.

Donjazet2:
Oasis own na to dey celebrate the results. Whether it was rigged oo, whether people were beheaded oo, whether people's votes were suppressed oo, e no concern am..

All his own is that we must celebrate the results of this evil that took place yesterday. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

donjazzet:
Fvcking whatever! However it went, peaceful, violent. So far as this wicked people knew that it was human beings they were dealing with not robots.

We all knew the nigerian judiciary was useless. We all knew nothing good will come out of it, my anger still remains with Obi who called for calm. He's the reason I don't even post anything political here again. He sold us out.

The public should have gone out and protested this robbery while it was hot.

Typical u and ur emotions.

So if people had gone to protest and the army rolled out tanks to meet them with hundreds of people losing their lives it doesn't matter?

Even if the protest would've led to Obi being arrested for treason it doesn't really matter to u?

MKO Abiola that was even popularly adjudged to have won the 1993 election died in incarceration while fighting for his mandate. U must think Obi was not reasonable enough to have learnt a thing or two from history of this country

Shaytun:
Lol, Maybe you need to read the court judgement of how Natasha akpoti of Kogi state reclaim her mandate yesterday.

She tendered hard copy result from her Polling unit agent to show that the one declared by INEC is wrong and she was the winner of the election.

The results were recalculated and she was declared winner.

First of all are you saying that agent copy has a high probative value?

Secondly, for your information Peter Obi submitted 10000 hard copies of agent results. But the Tribunal used it against him. That if he was saying INEC results were blurred where did he get his own results from.

I believe you followed the judgement.

donjazzet:
Unlimited, you shut me down for calling for protests during the rigging, now you've seen the meaninglessness of the courts, what say you?

Protest will not lead you anywhere or yield anything. You'd be hurting and risking your life if you do so. Stop acting like you are ignorant of the realities prevalent in Nigeria.

If anything happen to you, you will be forgotten in a blink.

But hard truth is any protest will not change anything!!!

BlueRayDick:
Typical u and ur emotions.

So if people had gone to protest and the army rolled out tanks to meet them with hundreds of people losing their lives it doesn't matter?
Even if the protest would've led to Obi being arrested for treason it doesn't really matter to u?

MKO Abiola that was even popularly adjudged to have won the 1993 election died in incarceration while fighting for his mandate. U must think Obi was not reasonable enough to have learnt a thing or two from history of this country

The funny thing is, I'm not even saying Obi should have led a protest. I'm saying that he should have at least kept his mouth shut and I still stand by that. There is no law that can hold obi for incitement if he really didn't do that and even sef, if obi did tell his supporters to protest and stand up for their right and at every point emphasized for absolute peace and nonviolence but just strength through numbers, no one can hold him. This is not the military administration. That's the beauty of having a democracy.

But I'm still saying that rather than obi telling his supporters to be calm, he should have just kept shut, no one can do shit to him.

And yeah, there would be people who would be ready to sacrifice a lot including their life for the sake of their country. Yes, it might not work, and yes it could also work, but one thing is assured, if nobody does anything, nothing can happen. We can only know if things work by doing something, by triggering the action.

Emaprince:
Protest will not lead you anywhere or yield anything. You'd be hurting and risking your life if you do so. Stop acting like you are ignorant of the realities prevalent in Nigeria.

If anything happen to you, you will be forgotten in a blink.
But hard truth is any protest will not change anything!!!

Well, that's the ultimate sacrifice for any human being. Millions of soldiers who fought Nazis are largely forgotten but they saved the world. One's efforts at sacrificing himself on the alter of a good and noble cause will always be heroic. Whether recognised or not.

But this point is mute seeing as I'm not actually calling for violent protest in this case. I'm calling for a peaceful one. An absolutely peaceful one. #occupyNigeria. Throughout history, peaceful protests has worked, we can't all see this blatant injustice and fold our hands and accept it. Constantly accepting rubbish from these politicians is what has brought us here.

donjazzet:
This was what I said obi should have done and people said I was wrong. That obi was right in going to court even though we already knew that that was a waste of time.

I for one believe when it comes to power, it's taken and not given..

Obi to me, seems too cool to be a president.. he doesn't have the balls to call the shots in my opinion and he is so chicken hearted.. maybe because he doesn't want to compromise his source of wealth owing to his billionaire status..

Someone like sowore if he had the populace like Obi had would have rode on it and unleashed the worst pre election protest there would have ever been.. heck even OBJ press statement post election reeks of someone who is/was born to rule..

You don't sit and wait for power to be handed to you, you get up and fight for it hook line and sinker..

Power and politics is and has always been a dirty game so you have to go damn dirty and there will be sacrifices even your life might as well be on the line..

Even the little street we re onto.. we know the risks and rules of the game let alone when it comes to something huge like power of presidency..

Maybe as many here said, he was really testing the waters and I hope so..

Where in the world has power everly been given by begging and emotions..

Even trump whom lost last election fights like a warrior 🪖 and a wounded lion.. and now he is back 🔙 and riding on his occultic fanatics who wouldn't even think twice to stand in the way of a bullet for him.. that is is how power politics is played..

You see your supporters ready to hit the streets and make it rain.. you re dulling their morale and sounding lilly livered..

He'd better go back to buying and selling as a trader he is.. he is not meant for this kind of high end power politics..

Spy360:
First of all are you saying that agent copy has a high probative value?

Secondly, for your information Peter Obi submitted 10000 hard copies of agent results. But the Tribunal used it against him. That if he was saying INEC results were blurred where did he get his own results from.

I believe you followed the judgement.

INEC result cannot be blurred, it was the IREV that was downloaded that was blurred.

The court were simply telling him IREV was useless as it was secondary evidence, he should provide the result that was blurred on the IREV .

donjazzet:
Well, that's the ultimate sacrifice for any human being. Millions of soldiers who fought Nazis are largely forgotten but they saved the world. One's efforts at sacrificing himself on the alter of a good and noble cause will always be heroic. Whether recognised or not.

But this point is mute seeing as I'm not actually calling for violent protest in this case. I'm calling for a peaceful one. An absolutely peaceful one. #occupyNigeria. Throughout history, peaceful protests has worked, we can't all see this blatant injustice and fold our hands and accept it. Constantly accepting rubbish from these politicians is what has brought us here.

And the best example you can find is the Arab spring😂😂😂.


Those who participated in the Arab spring wish they hadn’t cos their fortune changed for the worst.

BlueRayDick:
Typical u and ur emotions.

So if people had gone to protest and the army rolled out tanks to meet them with hundreds of people losing their lives it doesn't matter?

Even if the protest would've led to Obi being arrested for treason it doesn't really matter to u?

MKO Abiola that was even popularly adjudged to have won the 1993 election died in incarceration while fighting for his mandate. U must think Obi was not reasonable enough to have learnt a thing or two from history of this country

bro, if obi can not stomach and chest these consequences you mentioned above, then I don't think 💭 he has any business in power politics and I don't think he'd ever get to the apex of this game In the presidential level..

Where have you ever seen a president so dull and Lilli livered like obi?

Mention one place or country?

Emaprince:
Protest will not lead you anywhere or yield anything. You'd be hurting and risking your life if you do so. Stop acting like you are ignorant of the realities prevalent in Nigeria.

If anything happen to you, you will be forgotten in a blink.

But hard truth is any protest will not change anything!!!

obi had such occultic followers and he faded.. occultic followers people pray for..

Even many jihadists, powerful men ride on their occultic followers.. it's an advantage in the game..

As my lord Putin is now, I'm ready to even turn a suicide bomber for him

Shaytun:
INEC result cannot be blurred, it was the IREV that was downloaded that was blurred.

The court were simply telling him IREV was useless as it was secondary evidence, he should provide the result that was blurred on the IREV .

If you followed Adeleke Vs Oyetola you would know that IREV is primary evidence.

Even the justices yesterday affirmed it that those copies as long as they are certified by INEC remain primary. The flimsy excuse they used was that Obi didn't mention each of those 18088 polling unit as if it makes sense. How can anyone mention polling unit from a blurred unreadable document? Nonsense.

donjazzet:
The funny thing is, I'm not even saying Obi should have led a protest. I'm saying that he should have at least kept his mouth shut and I still stand by that. There is no law that can hold obi for incitement if he really didn't do that and even sef, if obi did tell his supporters to protest and stand up for their right and at every point emphasized for absolute peace and nonviolence but just strength through numbers, no one can hold him. This is not the military administration. That's the beauty of having a democracy.

But I'm still saying that rather than obi telling his supporters to be calm, he should have just kept shut, no one can do shit to him.

And yeah, there would be people who would be ready to sacrifice a lot including their life for the sake of their country. Yes, it might not work, and yes it could also work, but one thing is assured, if nobody does anything, nothing can happen. We can only know if things work by doing something, by triggering the action.

Why is Donald Trump's mugshot on the internet today ?

seankafor:
I for one believe when it comes to power, it's taken and not given..

Obi to me, seems too cool to be a president.. he doesn't have the balls to call the shots in my opinion and he is so chicken hearted.. maybe because he doesn't want to compromise his source of wealth owing to his billionaire status..

Someone like sowore if he had the populace like Obi had would have rode on it and unleashed the worst pre election protest there would have ever been.. heck even OBJ press statement post election reeks of someone who is/was born to rule..

You don't sit and wait for power to be handed to you, you get up and fight for it hook line and sinker..

Power and politics is and has always been a dirty game so you have to go damn dirty and there will be sacrifices even your life might as well be on the line..

Even the little street we re onto.. we know the risks and rules of the game let alone when it comes to something huge like power of presidency..

Maybe as many here said, he was really testing the waters and I hope so..

Where in the world has power everly been given by begging and emotions..

Even trump whom lost last election fights like a warrior 🪖 and a wounded lion.. and now he is back 🔙 and riding on his occultic fanatics who wouldn't even think twice to stand in the way of a bullet for him.. that is is how power politics is played..

You see your supporters ready to hit the streets and make it rain.. you re dulling their morale and sounding lilly livered..

He'd better go back to buying and selling as a trader he is.. he is not meant for this kind of high end power politics..

Darlington I'm sure this would be the very first time I am agreeing with you word for word!!!

Every single point you made was a hit. Now you get it.
Obi has proven himself too weak to lead the youths who are hungry for change. My worst pain is seeing these APC touts weaponize his meekness. First, projecting their bigotry unto him by saying he sows religious and tribal differences, then now mocking his supporters even though they are the majority. It's really painful bro.

donjazzet:
Well, that's the ultimate sacrifice for any human being. Millions of soldiers who fought Nazis are largely forgotten but they saved the world. One's efforts at sacrificing himself on the alter of a good and noble cause will always be heroic. Whether recognised or not.

But this point is mute seeing as I'm not actually calling for violent protest in this case. I'm calling for a peaceful one. An absolutely peaceful one. #occupyNigeria. Throughout history, peaceful protests has worked, we can't all see this blatant injustice and fold our hands and accept it. Constantly accepting rubbish from these politicians is what has brought us here.

Except of course ENDSARS protests (Which u were against and didn't hesitate to tell us "I told u so"

BlueRayDick:
Except of course ENDSARS protests (Which u were against and didn't hesitate to tell us "I told u so"

To which my stance on that is well known. People wanted SARS to end, I wanted it to be completely reformed. I was pro law enforcement, still am.
That police is very corrupt doesn't mean we should eliminate them completely. That's throwing the baby with the bathwater, it will be worse and that was my belief.

Shaytun:
Lol, Maybe you need to read the court judgement of how Natasha akpoti of Kogi state reclaim her mandate yesterday.

She tendered hard copy result from her Polling unit agent to show that the one declared by INEC is wrong and she was the winner of the election.

The results were recalculated and she was declared winner.

They are waiting for INEC to provide them with evidence that they will use to challenge Inec result.

Must be clownish behavior.

Spy360:
First of all are you saying that agent copy has a high probative value?

Secondly, for your information Peter Obi submitted 10000 hard copies of agent results. But the Tribunal used it against him. That if he was saying INEC results were blurred where did he get his own results from.

I believe you followed the judgement.

Which hard copies did Obi submit? Where and when?

donjazzet:
To which my stance on that is well known. People wanted SARS to end, I wanted it to be completely reformed. I was pro law enforcement, still am.
That police is very corrupt doesn't mean we should eliminate them completely. That's throwing the baby with the bathwater, it will be worse and that was my belief.

U just claimed peaceful protest always works and I pointed it to u that ENDSARS was peaceful. It was so peaceful that governors joined the protesters at different protest grounds across the country. How did it end? In Violence!

The Law enforcement u claim to be Pro has vowed to never any of such protests happen again. So u see, u are barking a wrong tree

.....jez wanna read Comments for Entertainment today.

larride:
Which hard copies did Obi submit? Where and when?

He submitted 10000 LP agent copies during the hearing. Google it.

Spy360:
He submitted 10000 LP agent copies during the hearing. Google it.

Bring the evidence here sir. My google isn't working.

Never followed presidential tribunals before but is this how their Judges normally dish out judgement,like the defendants and ruling parties counsel....They couldn't even hide their personal bias against Obidients...

donjazzet:
Izzou as always, with his contrarian pessimism.
Izzou how far the courts you had hope in? Are you happy that your vote and votes of other obidients was ultimately meaningless?

[color=royalblue]My vote was not useless. Maybe you didn't thumbprint well, and ended yours to be voided.

The only saving grace for Tinubu is to perform, if not, he will lose woefully in 2027.

15 million voted for APC in 2019, and despite 2023 having more registered voters, Baba managed to get 8 million. Sufferings reseted the brains of 7 million.

Obi should form a new party and leave LP for
Apapa. He is bigger than the mess LP has

Then he should have a merger with PDP for the Northern votes. Kwankwaso has convinced
Nigerians that he is politically useless on a National level.

Stop crying, this boy[/color]

donjazzet:
We saw this coming a mile away. I still blame Obi who decided to reign in his supporters who wanted to protest the rigging while it was hot.

Protest is overrated,doesn't change anything except the President is GEJ...

izzou:
[color=royalblue]My vote was not useless. Maybe you didn't thumbprint well, and ended yours to be voided.

The only saving grace for Tinubu is to perform, if not, he will lose woefully in 2027.

15 million voted for APC in 2019, and despite 2023 having more registered voters, Baba managed to get 8 million. Sufferings reseted the brains of 7 million.

Obi should form a new party and leave LP for
Apapa. He is bigger than the mess LP has

Then he should have a merger with PDP for the Northern votes. Kwankwaso has convinced
Nigerians that he is politically useless on a National level.

Stop crying, this boy[/color]

All part of the plan.

Somehow keep obidients in the first stage of grief until 2027

larride:
They are waiting for INEC to provide them with evidence that they will use to challenge Inec result.

Must be clownish behavior.

Thanks for telling us that you don't care about knowing the truth. About knowing the actual result. Because someone with a good mind would be invested in knowing the actual results which means supporting INEC to release all necessary documents needful to knowing how people actually voted

GloriousGbola:
All part of the plan.

Somehow keep obidients in the first stage of grief until 2027

[color=royalblue]At no point, was i waiting for any judiciary.

I already declared Obi the biggest winner in this election; On his own, he garnered 6 million on his first try. Tinubu spent 16 years to end up with 8 million.

And i don't know the grief there; Unless, there is some sort of subsidy for APC supporters this morning, every common Nigerian is in grief.[/color]