₦airaland Forum

izzou:
[color=royalblue]My vote was not useless. Maybe you didn't thumbprint well, and ended yours to be voided.

The only saving grace for Tinubu is to perform, if not, he will lose woefully in 2027.

15 million voted for APC in 2019, and despite 2023 having more registered voters, Baba managed to get 8 million. Sufferings reseted the brains of 7 million.

Obi should form a new party and leave LP for
Apapa. He is bigger than the mess LP has

Then he should have a merger with PDP for the Northern votes. Kwankwaso has convinced
Nigerians that he is politically useless on a National level.

Stop crying, this boy[/color]

The fact that you still believe Tinubu won 8 million votes despite the well established facts that those numbers were massively rigged and obis numbers were massively suppressed tells me all I need to know about your mindset.

And this has nothing to do with your post which I called out. I called for peaceful protest, you said we should go to the courts, now the courts have proven themselves as tools for the corrupt government, I'm asking you what should be the next recourse for those who know they were cheated?

donjazzet:
The fact that you still believe Tinubu won 8 million votes despite the well established facts that those numbers were massively rigged and obis numbers were massively suppressed tells me all I need to know about your mindset.

And this has nothing to do with your post which I called out. I called for peaceful protest, you said we should go to the courts, now the courts have proven themselves as tools for the corrupt government, I'm asking you what should be the next recourse for those who know they were cheated?

[color=royalblue]What i believe does not matter.
My belief won't make Obi president.

There is still Supreme Court if Obi wants to pursue his victory, so there is a next recourse. [/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]At no point, was i waiting for any judiciary.

I already declared Obi the biggest winner in this election; On his own, he garnered 6 million on his first try. Tinubu spent 16 years to end up with 8 million.

And i don't know the grief there; Unless, there is some sort of subsidy for APC supporters this morning, every common Nigerian is in grief.[/color]

It is called keeping the base riled.

Obi has to find a way to stay in their consciousness till 2027. That is the end game of all these suits that say nothing

GloriousGbola:
It is called keeping the base riled.

Obi has to find a way to stay in their consciousness till 2027. That is the end game of all these suits that say nothing

[color=royalblue]No base was riled.

Like i said, it is online i see people riled up and agitating. People have moved on in real life.

If Obi decides to contest in 2027, we would be here to vote him again[/color]

donjazzet:
Unlimited, you shut me down for calling for protests during the rigging, now you've seen the meaninglessness of the courts, what say you?

The collateral damage would have been too much, G.

[color=royalblue]NNPC is selling diesel at 865.

Have i been cheated again? GloriousGbola[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Except of course ENDSARS protests (Which u were against and didn't hesitate to tell us "I told u so"

EndSARS protesters he said he was so angry with that he felt like running them over with his car because they were causing traffic?

larride:
They are waiting for INEC to provide them with evidence that they will use to challenge Inec result.

Must be clownish behavior.

It's funny you guys keep saying this though, and I sincerely hope you don't believe these things you say, and it's just politics talk.

INECs job is to function as an umpire, and as an umpire it's their responsibility to go above and beyond to show stakeholders they were fair, which means if results of the elections are requested for, they make them available. The only reason they'd hide results is if they truly have something they're trying to keep hidden.

We watch football games and push for fairness and transparency...VAR, replays, on-field explanation of decisions, post-game analysis and reviews, but an activity that affects our lives directly we're looking for ways to justify it being shrouded in secrecy.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]What i believe does not matter.
My belief won't make Obi president.

There is still Supreme Court if Obi wants to pursue his victory, so there is a next recourse. [/color]

Then why did you stop those who believed that the answer to the raw injustice they were seeing before them was to protest immediately and loudly?

Why did you join voices with those who sought to stop it? To go to the courts?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]My vote was not useless. Maybe you didn't thumbprint well, and ended yours to be voided.

The only saving grace for Tinubu is to perform, if not, he will lose woefully in 2027.

15 million voted for APC in 2019, and despite 2023 having more registered voters, Baba managed to get 8 million. Sufferings reseted the brains of 7 million.

Obi should form a new party and leave LP for
Apapa. He is bigger than the mess LP has

Then he should have a merger with PDP for the Northern votes. Kwankwaso has convinced
Nigerians that he is politically useless on a National level.

Stop crying, this boy[/color]

Well said flint, that's why I said many of this Batist people have sold their conscience on the alter of political bias. Imagine stupidly asking why INEC should release documents that defend the results they themselves declared?

I keep saying it, we are our biggest problems. Look at it today, our judiciary, a core institution of democracy and any healthy society has proven itself to be bastardized and am appendage to the whims and caprices of very corrupt government officials and you have willing enablers who are applauding this because of political bias. This country is finished!

Theflint1:
It's funny you guys keep saying this though, and I sincerely hope you don't believe these things you say, and it's just politics talk.

INECs job is to function as an umpire, and as an umpire it's their responsibility to go above and beyond to show stakeholders they were fair, which means if results of the elections are requested for, they make them available. The only reason they'd hide results is if they truly have something they're trying to keep hidden.

We watch football games and push for fairness and transparency...VAR, replays, on-field explanation of decisions, post-game analysis and reviews, but an activity that affects our lives directly we're looking for ways to justify it being shrouded in secrecy.

donjazzet:
Then why did you stop those who believed that the answer to the raw injustice they were seeing before them was to protest immediately and loudly?

Why did you join voices with those who sought to stop it? To go to the courts?

[color=royalblue]Its like the tears gushing from your eyes are impairing you visually.

Who are the "those" I stopped?

When Obi asked you not to protest, was he listening to me too?

Ebezina, inugo?[/color]

donjazzet:
Then why did you stop those who believed that the answer to the raw injustice they were seeing before them was to protest immediately and loudly?

Why did you join voices with those who sought to stop it? To go to the courts?

Has anybody stopped you from protesting? Abi you're such a coward that you need the safety of numbers to protest?

People do one-man protest for things they believe in and some of these one-man protest has yielded positive results.

Someone suggested that aggrieved person's can go to the tribunal ground to make their displeasure known. If you were any serious, by now we ought to be seeing pictures of you around Aso Rock or the tribunal ground making your displeasure known, not coming online to form keyboard warrior.

donjazzet:
Well said flint, that's why I said many of this Batist people have sold their conscience on the alter of political bias. Imagine stupidly asking why INEC should release documents that defend the results they themselves declared?

I keep saying it, we are our biggest problems. Look at it today, our judiciary, a core institution of democracy and any healthy society has proven itself to be bastardized and am appendage to the whims and caprices of very corrupt government officials and you have willing enablers who are applauding this because of political bias. This country is finished!

It's a very silly line of argument, and all of them keep repeating it like they're saying one profound thing.

Theflint1:
Has anybody stopped you from protesting? Abi you're such a coward that you need the safety of numbers to protest?

People do one-man protest for things they believe in and some of these one-man protest has yielded positive results.

Someone suggested that aggrieved person's can go to the tribunal ground to make their displeasure known. If you were any serious, by now we ought to be seeing pictures of you around Aso Rock or the tribunal ground making your displeasure known, not coming online to form keyboard warrior.

Theflint1:
EndSARS protesters he said he was so angry with that he felt like running them over with his car because they were causing traffic?

That is why I said he's unstable more than elements like Plutonium , uranium and co.

Theflint1:
It's funny you guys keep saying this though, and I sincerely hope you don't believe these things you say, and it's just politics talk.

INECs job is to function as an umpire, and as an umpire it's their responsibility to go above and beyond to show stakeholders they were fair, which means if results of the elections are requested for, they make them available. The only reason they'd hide results is if they truly have something they're trying to keep hidden.

We watch football games and push for fairness and transparency...VAR, replays, on-field explanation of decisions, post-game analysis and reviews, but an activity that affects our lives directly we're looking for ways to justify it being shrouded in secrecy.

Why I love the madness that is this country.
It do usually touch everybody.
The madness that is making you shine teeth today will finish you tomorrow.
Umpire say them nor fit umpire and you dey smile say umpire nor dey do their job because e favour you😁

izzou:
[color=royalblue]NNPC is selling diesel at 865.

Have i been cheated again? Glorious Gbola[/color]

No,it is a way of keeping obidients in the first stage of grief till 2027

Amigoss:
No,it is a way of keeping obidients in the first stage of grief till 2027

[color=royalblue]If you watch people defending the grief, they are mostly abroad. Just use this thread as a yardstick.

Pro APC in Nigeria are just mute. Even ministers sef, dem no celebrate. Na abroadians dey share portfolio for us. What we ordered is suddenly not what we got.

The bus i entered today was diesel powered, and he bought at 865, with grumblings. He was even telling us the 865 is cheaper, compared to other independent ones.

Grief full outside. Na online dem dey put am on only Obidients[/color]

Doesnt this sound ridiculous ....No wonder after committing the atrocities,they were shouting go to court....

"The next candidate attempting to displace the ruling party from government must start preparing their 2027 election petition TODAY – not tomorrow, not after the 2027 elections. I’ll explain.

Logically and legally, it is impossible for any presidential candidate to prove results-altering electoral malpractice within 180 days. NOT POSSIBLE in Nigeria.

In law, he who alleges must prove. The candidate/party must prove not only the malpractice, but also that it was of such a scale capable of invalidating the result announced by INEC.

The 2023 presidential elections were held in 176,606 polling units. To prove malpractice in court, a candidate needs witnesses in thousands of these units. Not just eyewitnesses, but witnesses who provide EVIDENCE of their claims. Not just provide them, but provide them PROMPTLY and in a MANNER that the court can find convincing. These things sound basic; but if you’ve ever sued anyone regarding a serious matter and your lawyer let you into the amount of work that went into writing the brief, and you multiply that work by hundreds of thousands of polling units, you’ll realise that no magic can make anyone defeat any Nigerian president at the PEPT. And, don’t forget, the petition must be filed within 21 days. There’s no miracle that can result in the preparation of a victorious petition within 21 days.

So, what I think. Just the same way politicians start strategising how to get their party’s ticket and woo the electorate years before an election, opposition candidates have to start planning how to document and expose rigging, pre-election. Planning from now, not post-election planning.

Free advice: find undercover agents, set them up with powerful cams, send them out on election day. They don’t even need to get close to the polling booths. They need not argue with anyone or physically engage any ballot box snatcher or thug. From afar, they capture all they need. Again, this is not as straightforward as it sounds. Years of work have to be invested in recruiting the hands, speedy collation and sorting of filming, and so on.

But to start all this work after the election and expect to have solid grounds for filing within 21 days, no assemblage of lawyers can pull it off in Nigeria. Lawyers will not tell you this, but appealing the PEPT’s judgement at the Supreme Court is a waste of everyone’s time. For 2027, anyone who wants to ‘dine with the devil’ MUST show up with a long spoon."

izzou:


[color=royalblue]If you watch people defending the grief, they are mostly abroad. Just use this thread as a yardstick.

Pro APC in Nigeria are just mute. Even ministers sef, dem no celebrate. Na abroadians dey share portfolio for us. What we ordered is suddenly not what we got.

The bus i entered today was diesel powered, and he bought at 865, with grumblings. He was even telling us the 865 is cheaper, compared to other independent on

Grief full outside. Na online dem dey put am on only Obidients[/color]

Bro u sabi dey koko.

izzou:


[color=royalblue]If you watch people defending the grief, they are mostly abroad. Just use this thread as a yardstick.

Pro APC in Nigeria are just mute. Even ministers sef, dem no celebrate. Na abroadians dey share portfolio for us. What we ordered is suddenly not what we got.

The bus i entered today was diesel powered, and he bought at 865, with grumblings. He was even telling us the 865 is cheaper, compared to other independent ones.

Grief full outside. Na online dem dey put am on only Obidients[/color]

Lmaooo

That's a lie.
Only Obidients dey suffer the effect of horrible leadership nai make na we dey complain pass.

The pro-positive post people are enjoying

izzou:


[color=royalblue]If you watch people defending the grief, they are mostly abroad. Just use this thread as a yardstick.

Pro APC in Nigeria are just mute. Even ministers sef, dem no celebrate. Na abroadians dey share portfolio for us. What we ordered is suddenly not what we got.

The bus i entered today was diesel powered, and he bought at 865, with grumblings. He was even telling us the 865 is cheaper, compared to other independent ones.

Grief full outside. Na online dem dey put am on only Obidients[/color]

Telekinesis in Ancient Africa: The Case Study of Jagun Jagun

I rewatched thespian Femi Adebayo's masterpiece in film creation, "Jagun Jagun", for my research works. I aimed to analyze many elements of Isese, the totality of Yoruba culture and traditions, in the film but from the physical approach due to my field of study, Physics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNrl2-tl58

The movie's intro starts by eulogizing certain elements of nature as perceived by the ancestors and forefathers of Africa in the ancient world, especially Tem, Olorun, Orunmila, and Ifa:

Óóju ọjọ sán án; ọ̀ọ̀yẹ̀ lágbòò ò...
("The day breaks..." )

I used the word, "eulogize" here because those entities mentioned above, who are some of the greatest past scientists of Africa, did not see nature, or any of its elements (such as air, fire, water, matter, light, and tons and tons of others) as mere inanimate objects, the way modern humans do, but as energy and consciousness.

They regarded them as what Yoruba people call, "nkan abemi", "living things". The primary reason for this is the natural ability of these higher beings, which many people worship ignorantly today as God, to see and interact with a wide range of segments of the electromagnetic spectrum, which the modern humans and their instruments cannot see/detect at the moment.

The approach of viewing all things in nature and the universe this way actually has tons and tons of applications, across all fields of science and non-science. This is a major reason why the past humans could establish towns, cities, nations, and continents.

Some of these great past Africans even used this knowledge and related ones to build planets, stars, and suns mimicking those that evolved naturally from cosmic dust and the likes, just like they designed animals, humans, plants, microbes, etc. using similar mimetic techniques.

When our forefathers that were molded by people like Tem, Olorun, Chukwu, Orunmila, Oghene, and others saw some of the feats of these gods, they thought they were God and supernatural beings because of the latters' advanced African science and technology.

Thus, they associated various elements of nature which the past beings specialized in to describe and deify them. This is why Sango is called the god of thunder, with Amadioha of the Igbos also worshipped as the god of thunder (both of the gods actually had the same temperament while on Earth), and Ogun is referred to as the god of war and iron.

In different parts of that movie, various aspects of ancient African science and technology could be seen. The one I want to talk about now is telekinesis or moving matter with the mind:

According to Webster's dictionary, "telekinesis is the production of motion in objects (as by a spiritualistic medium) without contact or other physical means". In simple terms, it involves moving things with the mind, which many of us would have seen in sci-fi.

But they were actual technologies of the past extinct human eras, which the gods used for healthcare, sports, wars, and other areas in ancient Africa. In "Jagun Jagun", popular actor Kola Ajeyemi, who is Toyin Abraham's current husband, could be seen doing telekinesis, summoning and moving a certain aspect of nature, fire, with his mind.

He could be seen communicating with the element, fire, by rendering the panegyrics of Sango, a past human, worshipped by Yoruba people as the god of thunder. (Unlike Gbotija that could communicate with trees, another element of nature.)

Sango Olukoso was a past Yoruba man, who knew the "name" that "fire" bears. During his time on Earth, he knew some codes (called "ofo" in Yoruba or "incantations" ) that once uttered could change the frequency of vibration of those waves emanating from his brain, the seat of consciousness, and put these waves in phase with those of the core energy of "fire" that has its own discrete range of vibrational frequencies.

When this change in the frequency of his brain waves was achieved, he could establish communication with fire. This allowed him to summon fire from thin air, and communicate with it to render some assistance to him. (Even as modern humans, there are some codes (words) you'd hear that would have an instantaneous effect on your brain, where your soul/consciousness resides.)

Sango used this technology a lot in wars and won various battles in the ancient Yorubaland and its environs. Thus, he was deified for his historic feats and worshipped as the god of thunder by the native Yoruba people in generations over generations.

Kola Ajeyemi could be seen in "Jagun Jagun" summoning fire and moving it with his mind as Sango used to do in the pre-Homo Erectus and Homo Erectus eras, a feat that made him write his name on the sands of time.

However, the panegyric Kola recited in the movie is just the one for Sango, who knew the actual code for this kind of communication and telekinesis and kept that knowledge secret from most people of his time. He later died with the knowledge.

In the future, some people will discover the laws of nature guiding this technology of the ancient world and use them to create inventions for healthcare, sports, manufacturing, and military.

Gbotija also did a similar kind of communication by talking to some trees to render some assistance to him in what seemed like magical or supernatural feats to us, the viewers.

But it is scientific. There are certain key fundamental principles about nature that the past African scientists knew, which modern scientists are yet to discover.

Fortunately, modern physicists are making key progress in this direction. For instance, if the NASA scientists I mentioned the other day actually successfully develop the Periodic Table of Life (PeTaL) well and combine it with some other models of Physics, especially the physics of the telekinetic feats in "Jagun Jagun", a lot of advanced technologies will be built.

Importantly, present-day African scientists need to study African cultures and traditions and expose the many claims of supernatural/spiritual feats in myths and fables around to scientific scrutiny. In some of those stories are embedded advanced technologies of past Africans, whose knowledge had long been dead and buried.

By developing and engaging in STEM in the native languages and combining modern science with the past African science and technology, modern-day African scientists can make key unique contributions to science and technology.

In summary, for science and technology to develop in Africa and for the continent to move forward, modern Africans need to look inward, go back to their roots, and see the world through the lens of the great African scientists of the past and also using modern scientific methods.

25 whole paragraphs. And the content is just basically unrealistic SciFi. Points that cannot be challenged lest be met with barrage of insults. Who tjay this thing?

Atleast we can all agree that if GEJ really wanted to, he would have been president and heaven won't have fallen at all😁

Una c in c

Let's get back to making dolla 500 and fuel 300 atleast.

If this happens, Tinubu will get more support massively.

But na naija...and these leaders are selfish looters. So that hope is a pipe dream.

liveLongNprospa:
Atleast we can all agree that if GEJ really wanted to, he would have been president and heaven won't have fallen at all😁

Heaven would have fallen. He's from a minority tribe and had too many bigwigs against him. Only bigwigs in his corner were Wike and Akpabio

Amigoss:
Doesnt this sound ridiculous ....No wonder after committing the atrocities,they were shouting go to court....

"The next candidate attempting to displace the ruling party from government must start preparing their 2027 election petition TODAY – not tomorrow, not after the 2027 elections. I’ll explain.

Logically and legally, it is impossible for any presidential candidate to prove results-altering electoral malpractice within 180 days. NOT POSSIBLE in Nigeria.

In law, he who alleges must prove. The candidate/party must prove not only the malpractice, but also that it was of such a scale capable of invalidating the result announced by INEC.

The 2023 presidential elections were held in 176,606 polling units. To prove malpractice in court, a candidate needs witnesses in thousands of these units. Not just eyewitnesses, but witnesses who provide EVIDENCE of their claims. Not just provide them, but provide them PROMPTLY and in a MANNER that the court can find convincing. These things sound basic; but if you’ve ever sued anyone regarding a serious matter and your lawyer let you into the amount of work that went into writing the brief, and you multiply that work by hundreds of thousands of polling units, you’ll realise that no magic can make anyone defeat any Nigerian president at the PEPT. And, don’t forget, the petition must be filed within 21 days. There’s no miracle that can result in the preparation of a victorious petition within 21 days.

So, what I think. Just the same way politicians start strategising how to get their party’s ticket and woo the electorate years before an election, opposition candidates have to start planning how to document and expose rigging, pre-election. Planning from now, not post-election planning.

Free advice: find undercover agents, set them up with powerful cams, send them out on election day. They don’t even need to get close to the polling booths. They need not argue with anyone or physically engage any ballot box snatcher or thug. From afar, they capture all they need. Again, this is not as straightforward as it sounds. Years of work have to be invested in recruiting the hands, speedy collation and sorting of filming, and so on.

But to start all this work after the election and expect to have solid grounds for filing within 21 days, no assemblage of lawyers can pull it off in Nigeria. Lawyers will not tell you this, but appealing the PEPT’s judgement at the Supreme Court is a waste of everyone’s time. For 2027, anyone who wants to ‘dine with the devil’ MUST show up with a long spoon."

Lol, this is some insane level of work, but sadly won't work unless the opposing candidate very clearly won, and the resources (violence, clout and money) they have available to them is close or even surpasses that of the candidate they're taking to court.

High-stake elections like governorship and presidential, if you no get backing, the court will rule against you, if you like bring 1000TB of videos .

These judges have precedence for almost anything they want to do, cause there's been too many ridiculous rulings, and when they don't have precedence, they're ready to set one. A good number of them are close to, or at the end of their careers, so are ready to do the bidding of whoever is paying for one massive final pay day. Those that aren't doing judgement for hire are so entrenched in the system that they might as well be politicians themselves, case in point is Justice Zainab Bulkachuwa – former President of the Court of Appeal who's husband, a senator was boasting about how he had helped his colleagues influence cases with the help of his wife.