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popizaino:
Let establish the meaning of idolatry before concluding Islam is idolatry.



If all these religions are idolatry which one then is not?

Na you dey bother yourself. All gods worshipped in human history are deities or idols. All of them. No single exception.

So, any religion based on the worship of any god of religion or any deity is idolatry in nature.

All Abrahamic religions, ATR, Zoroasrianism, and many others are idolatry in nature because they were established based on one form of sacrifice (ebo in Yoruba) or the other.

Once your religion has the concept of ebo or sacrifice at its core, that's idolatry staring right at your face. Only ignorant people don't know this simple fact.

Once your religion has a sacred or holy place used to worship its deity, called shrine in English, and its adherents engage in certain rituals involving ebo, you're doing idolatry.

For ATR, the various oju ibo of their deities around are their own shrines.

For the Muslims, the various mosques around are the shrines of Allah.

For the Christians, the various churches around are the shrines of Yahweh.

Na person wey no understand English no know say a mosque is a shrine, just like a church is.

Even if one doesn't understand the meaning of an English word, the dictionary is there to help.

Guys, please raumdeuter shared a link recently that showed one's outstanding stocks.

Both my parents invested in stocks pre-2008 stock market crash. They've were receiving little dividends before but when they relocated, they stopped receiving any and they never cashed any of the dividends received then.

So I'm asking if anyone has any idea if those dividends have been backended, if they're entitled to it, and how to go about checking the current valuation of these stocks, because both my parents sunk about 650k cumulatively in these stocks.

And another thing is that some of these companies may not even still be viable or alive today and even the stockbroking firms they used have nothing about them.

Could any one help me here? Because my dad alone put 100k into GTB then and I'm thinking that seeing the current valuation of GTB today alone, this might be worth something, at least a million today as bad as e bad, both in unclaimed dividends and current valuation. Likewise other stocks.
Please can someone point me in the right direction. Where to go for basic enquiry or any site to scour.

Cc ibime, blueraydick, disstroy, afrodoc, raumdeuter, others who can help.

donjazzet:
Guys, please raumdeuter shared a link recently that showed one's outstanding stocks.

Both my parents invested in stocks pre-2008 stock market crash. They've were receiving little dividends before but when they relocated, they stopped receiving any and they never cashed any of the dividends received then.

So I'm asking if anyone has any idea if those dividends have been backended, if they're entitled to it, and how to go about checking the current valuation of these stocks, because both my parents sunk about 650k cumulatively in these stocks.

And another thing is that some of these companies may not even still be viable or alive today and even the stockbroking firms they used have nothing about them.

Could any one help me here? Because my dad alone put 100k into GTB then and I'm thinking that seeing the current valuation of GTB today alone, this might be worth something, at least a million today as bad as e bad, both in unclaimed dividends and current valuation. Likewise other stocks.
Please can someone point me in the right direction. Where to go for basic enquiry or any site to scour.

Cc ibime, blueraydick, disstroy, afrodoc, raumdeuter, others who can help.

[color=royalblue]You need a Stock broker.

Go online and search for them. Them go help you (for an agreed percentage after you sell sha).

I doubt if your parents can recoup their 650k. Some of the shares there are useless; ABC, Dangote Flour and Lasako..

If you use am take clean nyash, e better[/color]

donjazzet:
Both my parents invested in stocks pre-2008 stock market crash.

Contact the registrar. If your parents are still alive, they will have to complete the process themselves.

If they are deceased, only a letter of administration with an estate account can claim the shares.

Attached is a sample requirement from one of the registrars if the shareholder is deceased.

The attached picture shows an interesting summary of the history of Egypt. Over hundreds of years, the black civilization of ancient Egypt suffered lots of invasion from the Greeks, Romans, Arabs, and others before the Arabs finally turned the former world power in Africa to theirs.

This is the plan of the Arabs for the whole of Africa: to capture the whole continent and turn it to theirs like they did with ancient Egypt, and Islam is their weapon for this agenda.

The Arabs are career land-grabbers and invaders, exactly like the Fulanis, who are their partners in crime.

raumdeuter:
There was a place I went to in Ibadan, men I felt sorry for the soul of the car and wanted to just get down and trek it. Sometimes it felt like the car will break into 2

If the government eventually repair that road, the way the resident will skyrocket the cost of accommodations and everything will even shock the devil..
Good road is a necessity for commercialization

aieromon:
Contact the registrar. If your parents are still alive, they will have to complete the process themselves.

If they are deceased, only a letter of administration with an estate account can claim the shares.

Attached is a sample requirement from one of the registrars if the shareholder is deceased.

They're both alive. It's just that I can't find information about some of the registrars online.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You need a Stock broker.

Go online and search for them. Them go help you (for an agreed percentage after you sell sha).

I doubt if your parents can recoup their 650k. Some of the shares there are useless; ABC, Dangote Flour and Lasako..

If you use am take clean nyash, e better[/color]

Thanks, e be like nah to carry am enter investment thread, someone there might know one or two how exactly to follow this up

donjazzet:
Guys, please raumdeuter shared a link recently that showed one's outstanding stocks.

Both my parents invested in stocks pre-2008 stock market crash. They've were receiving little dividends before but when they relocated, they stopped receiving any and they never cashed any of the dividends received then.

So I'm asking if anyone has any idea if those dividends have been backended, if they're entitled to it, and how to go about checking the current valuation of these stocks, because both my parents sunk about 650k cumulatively in these stocks.

And another thing is that some of these companies may not even still be viable or alive today and even the stockbroking firms they used have nothing about them.

Could any one help me here? Because my dad alone put 100k into GTB then and I'm thinking that seeing the current valuation of GTB today alone, this might be worth something, at least a million today as bad as e bad, both in unclaimed dividends and current valuation. Likewise other stocks.
Please can someone point me in the right direction. Where to go for basic enquiry or any site to scour.

Cc ibime, blueraydick, disstroy, afrodoc, raumdeuter, others who can help.

If ur parents still have their share certificates , then they can surely contract a stockbroker who will guide them in validating those shares , claiming their unclaimed dividends and sell any of those shares they intend to sell after regularizing them.

My dad was a very active shareholder , but I never really picked interest because I see Nigerian companies (most especially publicly quoted companies ) as thieves who use shareholders money to do all sorts . U will see MD’s and members of the board/management living large , wasting money on luxurious lifestyles while the shareholders will be getting paltry kobo’s in dividends .

See that nonsense Tunde Ayeni of Skye bank dey buy house and cars for gf who is his daughter’s mate while dem run Skye bank down .

Shegzdave:
If the government eventually repair that road, the way the resident will skyrocket the cost of accommodations and everything will even shock the devil..
Good road is a necessity for commercialization

That thing is annoying ! They will boldly tell u the current occupant to either pay the new price or pack out so new occupants can pack in and enjoy the new road network government just constructed .

donjazzet:
Thanks, e be like nah to carry am enter investment thread, someone there might know one or two how exactly to follow this up

[color=royalblue]You actually need to contact the registrar.

But you can see that the registrars are different; that's why you need to find a stock broker.

Your case is even easy; they are still alive.

Na the ones wey dey deceased dey get stress.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
That thing is annoying ! They will boldly tell u the current occupant to either pay the new price or pack out so new occupants can pack in and enjoy the new road network government just constructed .

Nigerians always looking out for opportunities to cheat themselves and blaming those self inflicting pains on the government

Shegzdave:
If the government eventually repair that road, the way the resident will skyrocket the cost of accommodations and everything will even shock the devil..
Good road is a necessity for commercialization

Its better for the value of the houses to increase after road than the damages to vehicle and life on that road

raumdeuter:
Its better for the value of the houses to increase after road than the damages to vehicle and life on that road

I agree with that but increasing the cost of accommodation when little or no upgrade is done
on the houses is bad nah

Science and technology didn't start in modern times. Ancient Africa was even more technologically advanced than the modern era.

African science and technology of the past era were so advanced that they're seen as voodoo, magic in modern times.

Indeed, Arthur C. Clarke was right when he said: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.

donjazzet:
They're both alive. It's just that I can't find information about some of the registrars online.

All of the registrars are active. You just need to dig deeper.

Crescent, formerly EDC
https://www.crescentregistrars.com/

PAC
https://www.pacregistrars.com/

APEL
https://registrars.apel.com.ng/

Datamax
https://www.datamaxregistrars.com/

THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING

I got a pleasant surprise two days ago.

A Hollywood film company called and said they wanted to feature a painting I did in 1994 in their forthcoming movie.

They wanted to license the painting for the movie.

I didn’t understand what that meant. “What do you mean you’d like to license the painting for the movie?”

“We will pay you to hold a right to use the image of the painting for the movie, publicity, games, and so on,” they explained.

“You know I already sold the painting to a museum?” I said.

“Yes,” they said. “We don’t need the painting itself. We just want the reproduction of the painting. You own the copyright to the reproduction.”

I recalled the painting.

It was my first sale in the US. Well, it’s true I sold a couple of paintings earlier, but they were all sold cheap to friends who wanted to buy the paintings at moments when I was broke in a strange land called America.

But that painting was one that a museum wanted to buy.

When the curator of the museum called me, and said they wanted to buy that painting in 2002, I was overjoyed.

“How much do you want for the painting?” the curator of the museum that wanted the painting asked.

I didn’t hesitate. I said, “Five thousand dollars.”

She was quiet. Did I asked for too much, I was thinking. I decided I would be open to negotiating. I was going to say that when she broke the silence.

“Come on, Moyo,” she said, “that’s too low. We can pay you four or five times that amount for your painting.”

When I went to the university to study art, nobody even told me you could sell a work of art.

I had decided since I was a child that I would be a teacher, and that was the way I would make a living.

I was just too happy when a friend said, “I like your painting. May I have it?”
They simply got them for free.

Decades later, some of my friends confessed they took paintings from me free at Ile Ife, and transported them to Lagos and sold the paintings to collectors.

(It’s funny, isn’t it, that they flung this Yoruba adage at me: “O résẹ̀ ẹ wèrè o ò bù ú ṣoògùn….” Some of them are reading this story, and giggling. Nevertheless, “Adáni lóró, agbára ló fi kọ́ ni”).

I digress.

It was with that mindset of producing but not marketing that I went to the United States.

I always painted, not because I intended to sell them, but because I hated hanging out at parties, clubs, concerts—and with all the excess time at my disposal, I had to do something to kill time.

So, I painted—I paint—because it fills up my time.

It makes me happy to paint, to write, to read good stuff that others write.

If I had a free moment, I wouldn’t go to a club to drink a beer; I always go to the studio to do some painting.

I don’t care if James Brown and Lady Gaga are performing free in the next house. I’m not interested.

I would get a record of their songs, plug them in my earphones, serenade myself in my studio, and paint.

Women? They have to chase me, otherwise, I'm unavailable.

The time it takes to woo a woman is enough to complete a huge work of art.

That has always been the way I live.

Now, people are seeking my work to buy, and it still amazes me.

It is interesting that my former students are now making tons of money from their works. Some of them send their collectors to me to buy my work.

Back to the Hollywood license. They emailed me a contract and I signed it.

The particular painting that the Hollywood firm just licensed for their production took me an entire week to complete—working 18 hours a day—in the summer of 1994.

It was a particularly hot summer in Madison, Wisconsin, in 1994, and I was holed up in a cheap and tiny one-bedroom apartment with an air conditioner that made more noise than cool air.

In that stuffy room, I stretched my canvas and painted night and day to take my mind off the unbearable heat.

It worked. The painting took my mind off the heat—and over the years, has made me a dollar or two.

More than anything else, it showed me that one could live a comfortable life as an artist, if that was what one wanted to do.

It's just one of those gifts that keep giving.

I sure am happy that I didn’t listen to those who told me “Why would anyone study art at the university! You should be a doctor, engineer, lawyer, accountant, or study some other professional trade. It’s better to not go to school than to go to a university to study how to draw!”

I am grateful that I had parents who allowed me to study whatever I wanted to study.

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A001:
THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING

I got a pleasant surprise two days ago.

Prof Moyo Okediji is one of the highly intelligent Yoruba people promoting Isese and making the Yoruba culture attractive to others in the US.

The gifted artist has a Facebook page with over 100,000 followers teaching people the wisdom of our forefathers, Ifa and Orunmila.

People like professors Moyo Okediji and Wole Soyinka are prime examples showing an African can achieve greatness in life by drawing inspiration from elements of the native culture and traditions.

Moyo Lawal and her ugly macho man with their boring sex.

Just wasted my megabytes on frivolity

A001:
Prof Moyo Okediji is one of the highly intelligent Yoruba people promoting Isese and making the Yoruba culture attractive to others in the US.

The gifted artist has a Facebook page with over 100,000 followers teaching people the wisdom of our forefathers, Ifa and Orunmila.

People like professors Moyo Okediji and Wole Soyinka are prime examples showing an African can achieve greatness in life by drawing inspiration from elements of the native culture and traditions.

I just perused the Facebook page of Moyo Okediji and I was surprised he wasn’t calling his fellow Africans dull and ignorant . The professor writes thought-provoking posts to awaken a consciousness in his target audience instead of denigrating them and calling them unprintable names .

He doesn’t even write like he’s the most intelligent man in the universe while others are buffoons who should kowtow at his superior intellect .

Instead he writes like great academics do; with the intention of making his audience read , learn ask questions and develop interest in knowing about their history and culture ( Just like Wole Soyinka does )

You should not just post what he writes , you should learn to give his method a trial too. Take a cue from him and stop calling those who don’t yet agree with ur views names .

Griffon:
Moyo Lawal and her ugly macho man with their boring sex.

Just wasted my megabytes on frivolity

What were u expecting to see before ?

Ibime:
I ain't worried about my data amongst all other billions of data. It's getting to the point now where one doesn't need to go to school anymore, Google and it's products can teach you everything you need. You change phone, all your contacts and apps are up and running in 15 mins. Professional development and update of skills is all coming from Google products,

Even in personal life, I learned to cook properly from YouTube, not just Naija food but other cultures foods as well. Even in DIY which is a big hobby of mine, YouTube has almost turned me into a professional builder. Last couple of months, I converted my garden using YouTube. Everything from installing french drains to aco drains to geotextile membranes, laying and compacting aggregate to laying artificial grass, block, mortar and concrete work plus resin stone and patio work was learned from YouTube. Over the years, I have learned all manner of joinery works and furniture making, painting and decorating and how to use building tools from same YouTube. E done reach where na only electric and gas I no dey touch again. And I have never paid $1 to Google for all this. All for the inconvenience of seeing or watching few ads every now and then.

I don't think there is anyone doing anything professionally today who didn't learn a good chunk of their craft, or stayed up to date with developments without Google products. You have to give it to them. And I have been biased since the first day I saw the maths behind their page rank algorithm. I stan Sergey Brin and Larry Page wella, they decentralised learning and gathering of information.

Baba finish work here
This debate ended

Google really is a life saver

BlueRayDick:
What were u expecting to see before ?

A marathon.

How can you be in possession of those armored vessels, just for you to settle for some boring belly rubbing sex?

I was expecting some serious kpa-kpa-kpa from the back

BlueRayDick:
What were u expecting to see before ?

Izzou is this what you spent weekend doing
You even posed for pictures

BlueRayDick:
I just perused the Facebook page of Moyo Okediji and I was surprised he wasn’t calling his fellow Africans dull and ignorant . The professor writes thought-provoking posts to awaken a consciousness in his target audience instead of denigrating them and calling them unprintable names .

He doesn’t even write like he’s the most intelligent man in the universe while others are buffoons who should kowtow at his superior intellect .

Instead he writes like great academics do; with the intention of making his audience read , learn ask questions and develop interest in knowing about their history and culture ( Just like Wole Soyinka does )

You should not just post what he writes , you should learn to give his method a trial too. Take a cue from him and stop calling those who don’t yet agree with ur views names .

Lols, you just perused a few posts on his page and came to this wrong conclusion? Did you check the Facebook group he created?

That prof is even one of the various highly eminent Isese practitioners to describe the foolishness of the typical African.

One of his fellow people in art, the late professor of philosophy, Sophie Oluwole gave a series of lectures about the low IQ of the average African that condemns his native culture and traditions while promoting and hyping foreign ones.

I can't find the video now. Even Wole Soyinka too has discussed this same issue before.

If you demonize your ancestors and forefathers while promoting foreign ones, sane people call such mumu dull. That's a classic sign of low intelligence.

You're merely reacting emotionally to key issues, like the typical African. The typical African despises the truth. Most prefer the comforting lies.

Let's blame the West.

Most parts of Africa are underdeveloped: bad roads, poor power supply, and many other poor basic amenities. Those are glaring signs of a continent with dull people as the majority.

Then, the mumu people will start blaming colonial masters, slavery, blah, blah, blah in the 21st century, but before you know it, they'll soon pray to Jehovah or Allah, who are the gods of their colonial and slave masters from Europe and Arabia.

Lols, but they want to develop and grow. People that aren't even intelligent enough to know who their ancestors and forefathers are.

If they're intelligent enough to know who their ancestors and forebears are, at least, they'll know no people can grow without being connected to their roots.

Anyway, make una just dey play sha. Allah or Jehovah most mumu Africans pray to as God will help una develop the continent.

People that don't know their left from their right.

Anytime I see any African praying in the name of any of those two, I just pity how a person can be so dull and unintelligent, praying to two gods, who are both two past humans that so much hated anything African during their times on Earth.

Mumu people are praying in the name of entities that seek to capture and enslave the whole continent and eradicate all that's African about the people.

You check your environment and see underdevelopment and poverty everywhere, which are key signs most people in that environment are unintelligent, but it's people telling you the glaring fact you're hating.

If you've a place where the majority hate philosophy, critical thinking, and science, such a place will be backward and underdeveloped like this continent.

And when you call them around to discuss issues about these three key subjects which form the foundation of any nation that achieves greatness, the mumu people will start saying nonsense, such as "he has come with his lengthy discussions again", "these topics don't fetch quick money", and other balderdash.

You want your country to grow, but you detest Otem. Lols, some people are hopelessly stupid.

People like Otem are a gift to societies. If your forefathers favor you and send you a person like Otem, they're preparing your country for growth and a world power status if many people listen to his messages.

But only highly intelligent Africans know the key role a highly knowledgeable philosopher and historian such as Otem plays in the evolution of society.

I'm talking about various technologies here and knowledge of high-level codes that past African scientists used to design technologies that seem like juju and magical feats to modern humans.

Does any of these morons even know the number of codes in that guy's head? It's not good to be foolish in life sha

If it's another race with more intelligent people that got a guy like Otem as a gift from their forebears, they'd have tapped into his vast knowledge and developed new fields of science and laid the foundations to build various advanced technologies.

And it seems the guy has even left finally now.

It's just a pity most Africans are really dull people.

Griffon:
A marathon.

How can you be in possession of those armored vessels, just for you to settle for some boring belly rubbing sex?

I was expecting some serious kpa-kpa-kpa from the back

you think all these surgically enhanced body parts can stand up to knacking?

especially the made in naija versions? form over function.

i am sure some parts will be squealing like those fake brakes in traffic.

GloriousGbola:
you think all these surgically enhanced body parts can stand up to knacking?

especially the made in naija versions? form over function.

i am sure some parts will be squealing like those fake brakes in traffic.

Like if you hit it too much some parts of the body could defect 😂😂

BlueRay don buy market.

How far with that your runs?