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TenQ:
The question was to insert my translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in Qur'an 5:48, and that I did.


Can you please show me where Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?


Qur'an 5:48 Arabic
وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِٱلْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَٱحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِى مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمْ ۖ فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
Qur'an 5:48 Pickthall
And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.

Qur'an 5:48 Sahih Intl
And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.



Can I put it to you than Muslim translations cannot be trusted?
(As you insert words Allah didn't say into the Qur'an)

Explore2xmore:
Don't play smart I say fit.

Explore2xmore:
And you are not able to discern that what is meant is to use your translation for مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in translating the verse?

Do Picktall and Sahih's translations also have a separate affirming what is between his hands in their translations?

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

TenQ:
The question was to insert my translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in Qur'an 5:48, and that I did.


Can you please show me where Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?


Qur'an 5:48 Arabic
وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِٱلْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَٱحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِى مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمْ ۖ فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
Qur'an 5:48 Pickthall
And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.

Qur'an 5:48 Sahih Intl
And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.



Can I put it to you than Muslim translations cannot be trusted?
(As you insert words Allah didn't say into the Qur'an)

TenQ:
Stop wasting my time!
Call back after you explain how Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Red in the Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?

Otherwise, answer my questions below

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?

Explore2xmore:
I have answered you and their translations don't duplicate a translation of مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ.

Explore2xmore:
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Sorry sir,
Until you explain how
Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Red in the Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?

Otherwise, answer my questions below

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


And you are not able to discern that what is meant is to use your translation for مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in translating the verse?

Do Picktall and Sahih's translations also have a separate affirming what is between his hands in their translations?
I have posted from Buhari whose book you often refer to that Quran is what is to be relied on and what was said of those who brought forth other things.
Naturally urine smells due to uric content more so urine that has been exposed for some time. How would one not perceive the smell? How can one person produce enough urine for so many people talkless the world? Is your thinking so defective or vicious that you believe bunkum to show your dislike for those who don't share your belief?

Explore2xmore:
You pretend not to understand.
They both have translated confirming whatever Scripture was before and confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture however there isn't a further inclusion of affirming what is between His hands. Note they both translate مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ as the emboldened and not affirming what is between His hands.

Why do you have two translations of one phrase together in one verse? You didn't say one or the other!

Explore2xmore:
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155 states:
Abu Al-Yaman told us, Shuaib told us, on the authority of Al-Zuhri, Urwah ibn Al-Zubair said: Aisha, may God be pleased with her, entered upon the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, and I mentioned To him, so the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said, “Buy and free, for loyalty belongs to the one who frees.” Then the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, got up in the afternoon and praised God for what He deserved. Then he said, “ What is people who stipulate conditions that are not in the Book of God? If he stipulates a condition that is not in the Book of God, it is invalid, even if he stipulates a hundred conditions. “God’s condition is more deserving and more reliable

Also in Sahih al-Bukhari 5019, Narrated Abdul Aziz bin Rufai': Shaddad bin Ma'qil and I entered upon Ibn `Abbas. Shaddad bin Ma'qil asked him, “Did the Prophet (peace be upon him) leave anything (besides the Qur’an)?” He replied. “He didn't leave anything except what is between the two bindings (of the Qur’an).” [/b]Then we visited Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiyya and asked him (the same question). He replied, “[b]The Prophet (peace be upon him) did not leave except what is between the bindings (of the Qur’an).


Qutayba bin Saeed told us, Sufyan told us, on the authority of Abd al-Aziz bin Rafi’, he said: Shaddad bin Maqil and I entered upon Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with them. Shaddad bin Maqil said to him: Did the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, leave thesomethingHe said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers . He said: We went to Muhammad Ibn al-Hanafiyyah and asked him, and he said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers .

Then Sahih al-Bukhari 6903
Narrated Ash-Shubi: I heard Abu Juhaifa saying, “I asked Ali ‘ Is there anything that is not in the Quran?’ {Once he said, what is not with the people?} Ali replied, 'By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an. The only understanding He gives man is in His book Book and what is written in this paper.' I asked, 'What is written in this paper?' He replied, 'Al-Aql (the regulation of Diya), about the ransom of captives, and the Judgment that a Muslim should not be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a disbeliever.'

Sadaqa bin Al-Fadl told us, Ibn Uyaynah told us, Mutarrif told us, he said I heard Al-Sha’bi, he said I heard Abu Juhayfa, he said I asked Ali - may God be pleased with him - Do you have something that is not in the Qur’an? And he once said, “What people do not have,” and he said, “By the One who united love and created the soul, we do not have it . ” Except what is in the Qur’an , except an understanding that is given to a man in his book, and what is in the document. I said, and what is in the document. The mind said, and the redemption of the prisoner, and that he should not be killed by touching him. Blame an infidel...


Why then do you place much importance on what neither Allah nor his prophet pbuh placed importance on?

These sayings you lay much importance on should be queried in regard of what was the case with the first 4 Caliphs after Muhammad pbuh.
DId they permit their collection?

TenQ:
Mr Explore2xmore,
You are indeed wasting my time.

For the last time.


Quran 5:48:
وَأَنزَلْنَا - And We have sent down
إِلَيْكَ - to you
ٱلْكِتَٰبَ - the Book
بِٱلْحَقِّ - with truth
مُصَدِّقًا - confirming
لِّمَا - what
بَيْنَ - was between
يَدَيْهِ - his hands
مِنَ - of
ٱلْكِتَٰبِ - the Book
وَمُهَيْمِنًا - and as a guardian
عَلَيْهِ - over it
فَٱحْكُم - So judge
بَيْنَهُم - between them
بِمَآ - by what
أَنزَلَ - Allah has revealed
ٱللَّهُ - Allah
وَلَا - and do not
تَتَّبِعْ - follow
أَهْوَآءَهُمْ - their desires
عَمَّا - from what
جَآءَكَ - has come to you
مِنَ - of
ٱلْحَقِّ - the truth
لِكُلٍّ - To each
جَعَلْنَا - We have prescribed
مِنكُمْ - from you
شِرْعَةً - a law
وَمِنْهَاجًا - and a method
وَلَوْ - And if
شَآءَ - willed
ٱللَّهُ - Allah
لَجَعَلَكُمْ - would have made you
أُمَّةً - one nation
وَٰحِدَةً - single
وَلَٰكِن - but
لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ - to test you
فِى - in
مَآ - what
ءَاتَىٰكُمْ - He has given you
فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ - so race
ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ - to the good
إِلَى - To
ٱللَّهِ - Allah
مَرْجِعُكُمْ - is your return
جَمِيعًا - all together
فَيُنَبِّئُكُم - and He will inform you
بِمَا - concerning what
كُنتُمْ - you were
فِيهِ - in
تَخْتَلِفُونَ - you used to differ.


Have a good night rest

TenQ:
A 1000% correct.

Even as Christians, Jews we must ask questions.

Mat 24:4:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

This we can only do when we TEST all spirits

1Jn 4:1:
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Explore2xmore:
Can you explain what was between his hands in this word for word translation?
Your submissions for having both confirming what eas before it and affirming what is between his hands is not accepted because you deliberately separated these by criterion over it. Does this not change the meaning of the verse translated?
Your Translation
And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
وَمُهَيْمِنًا = and dominant note مُهَيْمِنًا is dominant

وكوصي= and as a guardian
وباعتباره وليا = and as a guardian
Guardian in arabic can also be حافظ
Don’t get caught in the web of the literal word-for-word translation.
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Explore2xmore:
You are the expert of time wasting.
1. Leading the gullible into your falsehood driven exercise? Does the Quran not say:

Surely the worst of beasts in God's sight are those that are deaf and dumb and do not reason. (8:22)

Do they not then think deeply in the Quran, or are their hearts locked up (from understanding it)?(47:24)

And those who strive in Our (cause), – We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right” [29:69]

Don't you waste time asking silly questions on what is not truth? You misinterpret Quran verses and lay claim to Hadith that Allah did not reveal or preserve nor Muhammad encourage its collection.

Your translation however it may be has just one translation of مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ and can you explain it's meaning based on what was between his hands? Do this and let this be fully resolved

TenQ:
1. It is at least good that you have FINALLY realized and accepted that the phrase
"Confirming that which is between his hands" exist in the Qur'an.

2. Your problem is that I shouldn't have translated it literally.

3. You want the meaning of the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands"


Good!

The meaning of the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands" is also conveyed in other verses of the Qur'an such as

Quran 2:41:
Literal Translation: "And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is [already] with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."

Quran 2:89:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers."

Quran 2:101:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know [what it contained]."

Qur'an 2:91
And when it is said to them, 'Believe in what Allah has revealed,' they say, 'We believe [only] in what was revealed to us.' And they disbelieve in what came after it, while it is the truth confirming that which is with them. Say, 'Then why did you kill the prophets of Allah before, if you are [indeed] believers?'"






And thus the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands" means

1. confirming that (the book) which is [already] with you,
or
2. confirming that (the book) which is accessible to you

or
3. confirming the currently existing scriptures


Allah is referring to the scripture of the Jews and Christians.

TenQ:
Mr honesttalk21,
My arguments were simple and not disputable sir.

1. Allah is the God of the Muslims
2. Mohammed is a partner with Allah (even though Muslims dispute this)

Evidences
1. Can a person become a Muslim without swearing allegiance to BOTH Allah and Mohammed in reciting the sahada?
If Mohammed was just a messanger, why not just swear allegiance to Allah?
Is this not partnership with Allah?

2. Did Allah say in the Qur'an that Mohammed will forgive Muslims (and Jinns) their sins?
The fact that you deny this does not change the words of Allah in the Qur'an.
Is this not partnership with Allah?
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Qur'an 4:64
We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful.

3. Must a Muslim obey BOTH Allah and Mohammed? In fact, Allah says that following Mohammed is the same as following Allah.
Is this not partnership with Allah?

Qur'an 4:79-80:
We have sent you (O Mohamed) as a Messenger to mankind, and Allah’s witness suffices for this. Whoever obeys the Messenger, in fact obeys Allah, and whoever turns away from him, he (saws) will not be accountable for their deeds. Anyhow, we have not sent you (O Mohamed) to be a guardian over them.

4. With respect to forgiveness of sin,
If the black stone can forgive the sins of Muslims, how much more the greatest prophet in the universe Mohammed!
Doesn't the black stone forgive sins of Muslims?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 959
Ibn Ubaid bin Umair narrated from his father:
"Ibn Umar was clinging on the two corners (in a manner that I had not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet doing) so I said: 'O Abu Abdur-Rahman! You are clinging on the two corners in a manner that I have not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet clining.' So he said: 'I do it because I heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "Touching them atones for sins." And I heard him saying: "Whoever performs Tawaf around this House seven times and he keeps track of it, then it is as if he freed a slave." And I heard him saying: "One foot is not put down, nor another raised except that Allah removes a sin from him and records a good merit for him."

5. Can you show me evidence of any purely human prophet of Allah to which obeying them is obeying Allah or a purely human prophet to which declaration of faith include their name or a purely human prophet who forgives sin and will admit people into paradise?
Is it Moses, Zachariah, Yahaya, Yakubu etc



Finally,
You still haven't answered this question of mine

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Can you please translate the above?
How is it similar or different from Qur'an 46:31?



No one is disputing the fact that in Islam, Allah forgives. What we are saying is that Mohammed is
1. A mediator in forgiveness and
2. Mohammed too forgives sin of Muslims.
3. You must obey BOTH Allah and Mohammed
4. You can't even become a Muslim without a shahada involving BOTH Mohammed and Allah

TenQ:
You will notice that it is you Muslims who have disagreements among yourself for the conjectures you have manufactured for the As-Samari. If the As-Samari was a chief of Banu Israel, you should be able to tell us his tribe.

You asked a Question:
The following instruction of Moses to the Levites that led to the killing of 3,000 israelites is indeed quite worrisome. Is that how brutal the Christian God is?
Response:
Unfortunately for you, you didn't notice that God did NOT instruct Moses to carry out the command of killing the Israelites who had gone rogue just as God didn't ask Moses to break the commandments on the stone tablets.

Now!
At least you are coming closer to the true narrative except that the Quran calls him As-Samari (the Samaritan) and not Samari .
Your English translators of the Quran recognises this as to call the As-Samari the Samaritan

Lets look at this carefully and reasonably
1. Moses wrote the Taurat and he said that Aaron was the one who made the Golden Calf for Isrealihts to worship
2. Moses the author of the Taurat said that he questioned Aaron as per why he did such evil
Exodus 32:21
21 He said to Aaron, “What did these people do to you, that you led them into such great sin?”
3. Moses the Author of the Taurat said that Aaron Admited his guilt but said to him that he was compelled by the people to make the idol
Exodus 32:22-24
22 “Do not be angry, my lord,” Aaron answered. “You know how prone these people are to evil. 23 They said to me, ‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’ 24 So I told them, ‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”
4. Moses the Author of the Taurat put the blame on Aaron for making the children of Israel run wild and out of control
Exodus 32:25
25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies.

The Bible did NOT hide the sin of anyone unlike the Quran. If God even punished Moses for his sin against Him, how much more putting in record the sin of Aaron, David, Solomon etc.

Problem of Islam:
1. Mohammed claimed to beleive in the Tortah where the account of Aaron and the golden calf was written
Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4434
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school. They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.
2. Allah agree with the scripture of the Jews and the Christians
Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.
Quran 46:30
They said, "Our people, we have heard a Book that was sent down after Moses, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), guiding to the truth and to a straight path."
3. Since Allah did not tell you who the As-Samari is nor Muhammed, every other thing you Muslims have said in explanation of who the identity of the As-Samari is are mere worthless conjectures. Neigher Mohammed nor Allah explained the identity of your so called As-Samari
4. The term As-Samari in Arabic mean just one thing: "The Samaritan: a citizen of the city of Samaria"


Unfortunately, this is just one of the many errors of Allah in the Quran.

Explore2xmore:
Who's translations do you use here. "That which is between his hands" is not in the Arabic.

TenQ:
In conclusion on this as you have derailed the topic completely, I will walk you down memory lane.

1. It all started with me saying

Maybe you will answer these questions of mine tomorrow.

Then, I said:





You jumped on the fact that I said:
Allah agree with the scripture of the Jews and the Christians
Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.


And your response was:




Your claim of
"That which is between his hands" is not in the Arabic.



Is what we have been pursuing over several pages of back and forth spanning two separate Original Posts.


You should actually apologise for wasting everyone's time over nothing.





Now, According if you don't mind:
The topic of today is about the advantages of the Holy Urine of Prophet Mohammed.

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire?
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


Please, let's no more digressions!

Explore2xmore:
Bumkum! Definitely this is where you are going. Of course you do not know:

وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُوا۟ مِن قَبْلِهِۦ مِن كِتَـٰبٍۢ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُۥ بِيَمِينِكَ ۖ إِذًۭا لَّٱرْتَابَ ٱلْمُبْطِلُونَ
You ˹O Prophet˺ could not read any writing ˹even˺ before this ˹revelation˺, nor could you write at all. Otherwise, the people of falsehood would have been suspicious.


Does confirming what was before it of the Scripture and affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture both exist in one verse?
This is your lie!


Another lie is your attempt to equate
مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ which occurs only twice in the Quran to مُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ ۗ.
You are simply a lieing deceiver

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

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In 4:64 you see ask Allah's forgiveness how then is it Muhammad pbuh that forgives.

Your tendency to lie even has you fabricating an imposibilty Bible 46:31 is this how Biblical verses are written?

Indeed you are a time waster!

Your literal translation in Quran 46:31 and previously Quran 9:31 is simply a case of

They (YOU) seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it.

Explore2xmore:
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155 states:
Abu Al-Yaman told us, Shuaib told us, on the authority of Al-Zuhri, Urwah ibn Al-Zubair said: Aisha, may God be pleased with her, entered upon the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, and I mentioned To him, so the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said, “Buy and free, for loyalty belongs to the one who frees.” Then the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, got up in the afternoon and praised God for what He deserved. Then he said, “ What is people who stipulate conditions that are not in the Book of God? If he stipulates a condition that is not in the Book of God, it is invalid, even if he stipulates a hundred conditions. “God’s condition is more deserving and more reliable

Also in Sahih al-Bukhari 5019, Narrated Abdul Aziz bin Rufai': Shaddad bin Ma'qil and I entered upon Ibn `Abbas. Shaddad bin Ma'qil asked him, “Did the Prophet (peace be upon him) leave anything (besides the Qur’an)?” He replied. “He didn't leave anything except what is between the two bindings (of the Qur’an).” [/b]Then we visited Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiyya and asked him (the same question). He replied, “[b]The Prophet (peace be upon him) did not leave except what is between the bindings (of the Qur’an).


Qutayba bin Saeed told us, Sufyan told us, on the authority of Abd al-Aziz bin Rafi’, he said: Shaddad bin Maqil and I entered upon Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with them. Shaddad bin Maqil said to him: Did the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, leave thesomethingHe said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers . He said: We went to Muhammad Ibn al-Hanafiyyah and asked him, and he said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers .

Then Sahih al-Bukhari 6903
Narrated Ash-Shubi: I heard Abu Juhaifa saying, “I asked Ali ‘ Is there anything that is not in the Quran?’ {Once he said, what is not with the people?} Ali replied, 'By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an. The only understanding He gives man is in His book Book and what is written in this paper.' I asked, 'What is written in this paper?' He replied, 'Al-Aql (the regulation of Diya), about the ransom of captives, and the Judgment that a Muslim should not be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a disbeliever.'

Sadaqa bin Al-Fadl told us, Ibn Uyaynah told us, Mutarrif told us, he said I heard Al-Sha’bi, he said I heard Abu Juhayfa, he said I asked Ali - may God be pleased with him - Do you have something that is not in the Qur’an? And he once said, “What people do not have,” and he said, “By the One who united love and created the soul, we do not have it . ” Except what is in the Qur’an , except an understanding that is given to a man in his book, and what is in the document. I said, and what is in the document. The mind said, and the redemption of the prisoner, and that he should not be killed by touching him. Blame an infidel...


Why then do you place much importance on what neither Allah nor his prophet pbuh placed importance on?

These sayings you lay much importance on should be queried in regard of what was the case with the first 4 Caliphs after Muhammad pbuh.
DId they permit their collection?

TenQ:
In conclusion on this as you have derailed the topic completely, I will walk you down memory lane.

1. It all started with me saying

Maybe you will answer these questions of mine tomorrow.

Then, I said:





You jumped on the fact that I said:
Allah agree with the scripture of the Jews and the Christians
Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.


And your response was:




Your claim of
"That which is between his hands" is not in the Arabic.



Is what we have been pursuing over several pages of back and forth spanning two separate Original Posts.


You should actually apologise for wasting everyone's time over nothing.





Now, According if you don't mind:
The topic of today is about the advantages of the Holy Urine of Prophet Mohammed.

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire?
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


Please, let's no more digressions!

FxMasterz:
You see now? Which deceiver would boldly tell you to test the spirits?

Explore2xmore:
Did Muhammad pbuh have anything between his hands?
You choose that because of you delusion to drive your lie that he could read and write?

The urine of the prophet pbuh cures no one and the saying is another fabrication of you lieing enemies of Allah, Muhammad pbuh and Islam.

TenQ:
But your hadith says otherwise sir!
Muslims attest to the authenticity of the hadiths from where the hadiths about the blessed urine of Mohammed is found complete with their chains of narrations

Please read:
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

This is what your scholars teach o!

Explore2xmore:
In 4:64 you see ask Allah's forgiveness how then is it Muhammad pbuh that forgives.

Your tendency to lie even has you fabricating an imposibilty Bible 46:31 is this how Biblical verses are written?

Indeed you are a time waster!

Your literal translation in Quran 46:31 and previously Quran 9:31 is simply a case of

They (YOU) seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it.

TenQ:
It seems Allah is the alter personality of Mohammed.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9792-dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder


Aisha even notice this such that she said :
Sahih Muslim 1464 a
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.


Aisha was just saying that it seems Allah's main responsibility was to serve Mohammed.

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And you believe hadith that is not guaranteed or because it suits your delusion.

Does this same hadith collection not say:

...we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an. The only understanding He gives man is in His book and what is written in this paper... (Buhari 6903)

...What is people who stipulate conditions that are not in the Book of God? If he stipulates a condition that is not in the Book of God, it is invalid, even if he stipulates a hundred conditions. “God’s condition is more deserving and more reliable... (Buhari 2155)




You too should read:

https://quranandbibleblog.com/2019/06/12/hadith-database-hadith-on-the-prophets-urine/

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Again you rush to hadith. What did the Quran itself say? Did Muhammad pbuh say or is it stated in the Quran that he is Allah's alter personality or equal?

Why are you bent on creating what isn't? It seems you have nothing more rewarding to do with yourself?

TenQ:
I have read your website link. I It is saying that the hadith is weak because
The hadith wasn't recorded in either Muslim not Bukhari

The Islamic website
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

Says quite the opposite sir.

1. Unfortunately, do you agree with All hadiths by Muslim and Bukhari?
If not, the argument of the hadith not in these books is weak!
2. Muslims with good intentions (not Jews nor Christians nor Atheists) wrote the hadith neither are they the promoters of the hadiths

TenQ:
It seems Allah is the alter personality of Mohammed.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9792-dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder


Aisha even notice this such that she said :
Sahih Muslim 1464 a
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.


Aisha was just saying that it seems Allah's main responsibility was to serve Mohammed.

TenQ:
Why do I go to your hadiths!?
1. The Qur'an is not complete without the hadiths and the Tafsirs and the Sunnah
2. The hadiths are your religious books: it is almost impossible for a Muslim cleric to preach without quoting an hadith.
3. The hadith gives us history and contexts of the early Companion's relationship with Mohammed.

or
How did we know anything about Waraqa, Khadijah or how Jibril came to Mohammed?
Are these in the Qur'an?

The problem is that you Muslims cherry pick on your hadiths. The ones you like is Sahih Muslim and the ones you are not comfortable with is Daif!

TenQ:
I have read your website link. I It is saying that the hadith is weak because
The hadith wasn't recorded in either Muslim not Bukhari

The Islamic website
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

Says quite the opposite sir.

1. Unfortunately, do you agree with All hadiths by Muslim and Bukhari?
If not, the argument of the hadith not in these books is weak!
2. Muslims with good intentions (not Jews nor Christians nor Atheists) wrote the hadith neither are they the promoters of the hadiths

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And what does Buhari have recorded regarding what us not in the Quran?

Were Hadith collected during the time of the four rightly guided Caliphs?