I believed Israel allowed the attack to take place because they know Hamas fighters are regrouping and getting stronger and for them to weekens or destroy the Hamas group they just allowed them to fall into their traps and now they got trapped.... Israel like this don gather evidence from the Hamas group attack on the Israeli soil... For them to say these is the reason why we're responding

patriotic007:
I used to support Palestine growing up until I did my own unbiased research and found out that Israel is not the bad guys after all.
Before 1948 the UN offered Isreal and Palestine the two state solution. Two countries living peacefully side by side building their futures. Israel agreed but Palestine refused the offer and started attacking Israel brutally until Israel understood the game and also took up arms to defend themselves.
Palestine has always thought the only solution to the whole land issue was to wipe out Israel and they went into war in 1948 thinking it would be possible to do it.
Israel defeated Palestine and it's Arabs friends and Israel got their country.
Israel quickly started building a very prosperous and technologically advanced nation and gradually the two state solution started vanishing.
Now Palestine are now begging for the same two state solution that they where given free before 1948. They are begging for a two state solution not because they want peace with Israel but because they have now realized that the only way to defeat Israel is to have a country that has a very formidable military that can wipe out Isreal .
Palestine want the two state solution inorder to build an army and weapons to drive Israel into the sea and Israel knows this hence the continued expansion of Israel and it's settlements.
Palestine can never live in peace with Israel and to them the only way to have peace is for Israel to be wiped out completely.
For this reason the world must never allow Palestine to have its own state because it will lead to a massacre that will make the Holo look like a child's play.

You're being economical on the reasons why Palestine rejected the two states solution arrangement, or you may not aware reasons for the rejection. Palestinians has the largest population more than the Jew settlers, before Balfour declaration for the establishment of the State of Israel in Palestine. British colonial government then recognized Palestinians as the majority, hence, they had control over the majority of the land.

Due to the promised of the UK government to Zionists movement on assisting them to create a country for the Israelis, as most of them were minorities in different countries around the world, while they suffered from racism, persecution and execution, it appeared to them of being victims of those circumstances due to their status of being seen as foreigners and identified as Jews. Very obvious that they were stateless people. A state of theirs needed to be established, that dream was aided by British Empire that had many colonies under her hegemony.

But Palestine rejected the two state resolution due to their claimed that land allocated to them were not fertile lands while those allocated to Israelis were fertile, that there's injustice in the sharing which needed to be reviewed. But British and other Western powers systemically ignored the concern of Palestinians. This led to option of violent from Palestine which inculcated them in their current sorrowful situation.

Conclusively, I only pictured the reason why Palestine rejected the two states resolution, which is because of partiality of the West arrangement and ignoring of the Palestinians concerns since that period up till date. This is very obvious on responses of the West on issues of human right abusing unabated by Israeli government against Palestinians daily. It was also enhancing apartheid government, as it can be compared to what South Africa experienced under White South Africans minorities that rule over the black of South Africans majority which also caused by British since 1910 and ended when Mandela elected as president. It also changes Palestinian people to become colony of Israelis on their own land. Two states resolution is still the main gear for the peace because separation in peace is far better than togetherness in trouble.

I dey suspect that Israel deliberately allowed the attacks to happen so that they can laugh devastating attack on Hamas

Tallesty1:
I believe Israel intentionally ignored the warning so that they would have a good reason to go to war with Hamas. Unfortunately, the destruction of lives and properties was much greater than they expected. They underestimated Hamas.

On the other hand, I don't understand what pushed Hamas to start something that they clearly can't finish. I feel like someone may have pushed them with a promise of support that we are yet to see.

isreal tot it was d usual barrage of missile from gaza that iron dome can solve... So no cause for alarm... Hamas surprised them and quickly ran back to celebrate... Isreal go 2 deal with them... Iswr

YoungLionken:
On whose side Egypt is ? Because I don't understand their statements (sometimes, it's as if they're siding Palestine, other times, Israel) every now and then, since the escalation..

How the mighty have fallen. Egypt would have been very unique and adorable in the eyes of the world, if they had maintained their forefather's culture; Pharoah, their ancient mode of dressing, hairstyles, etc. But now they're just another Muslim state ...

Those Egyptians aren't the Egypt you know these are Arabs they got there by conquest ....The real Egyptians are Black Africans

Kilometres:


If you throughly know history. You would have understood why Palestine couldn't accept the 2way state abnitio.

You can bring refugees to my land and give them a better part of my land and create and tell me to just leave with them as the second class citizens

Oga how was Palestinian then having there own country while sharing boarder with Isreal equal to been 2nd class citizens? Tell urself the truth the Arab world then rallied around Palestine...why share boarder with the Jews when we can wipe them off and you take everything stupid Palestine foolishly fall for it they all gang up went to war against Israel and Isreal won when u talk about ancestrial owners of that land Isreal are it's recorded your quran and the bible it was recommended that even the once contested Jerusalem was capital of Isreal as long as 3500 years THE FACT THAT PALESTINE CAME AND OCCUPIED PARTS OF ISREAL WHEN THY WHERE ON EXILE DOESN'T MAKE THEM ORIGINAL LAND OWNERS so don't come here and be playing victim we are not daft,u talk about Palestine not want to leave along Isreal like 2nd class citizens right LET ME REMIND YOU WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING VERY SOON PALESTINE MAY NOT HAVE A PLACE OF THERE OWN AND WILL RESORT TO BEG ISREAL...And at such 4th class citizens will be better

Wizardslayer:
Every hamas member is a dead man says Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

That means every terrorist is a dead man.

They have been brainwashed to believe that if they kill they gain,if they die,they gain so the best option is to ensure you send them to hell without recourse.

Kilometres:


Israel can never be free from terrorism and war with neighbours.

I agree with your point that Israel knew and ignores so as to have a reason to hit Gaza, but this thing happens every 4-5years. It's political, every Israel govt use it to win the people when elections is coming closer. There will be cease fire soon. Hama will rebuild and in the next 5 years.. the whole thing will repeat itself.

This one is going to spital beyond what you think and make might hit lebanon, Syria, Iran and even neutral Jordan ....
From intels IDF airforce would reach certain targets in this place it's going to be a long war ...
Isreal as called out 300000 men ..... They're on their way ....Many people from Europe, Canada and the US have volunteered to hit this once hard and cause an irreparable damage before they would ever think of such it would take another 100yrs.
The atrocities commited by this guys were terrible videos online of beheaded Jewish babies ....That won't be taken lightly

patriotic007:
It's half baked I agree because the full baked story has no end.....Isreal will argue that the land is theirs since before Solomon and Palestine will argue that the land is theirs before WW1 .......the circle continues.....
I only get involved when the UN offered a lasting solution to the whole issue and a particular side threw it out of the window and instead went into terrorism but unfortunately for them the other side gave them terror of more magnitude......Now that same side is still the one playing the victim while they are the ones who introduced bloodshed into the whole issue

Israel already occupied majority of the lands, when UN offered the state to be divided the fertile portion was still given to Israel .
When Israel met Palestine In that land after the war how did Israel took majority of the lands if not for bloodshed?

I’m not taking sides because my religion is affiliated to Israel but what the west is doing regarding Israel is bad . Recently Israel has been manhandling Palestine which Western media don’t cover only aljazera did .
If the west cautions Israel they’ll respect the people of Palestine and live peacefully.humanity before religion.

Mccullum:


You're being economical on the reasons why Palestine rejected the two states solution arrangement, or you may not aware reasons for the rejection. Palestinians has the largest population more than the Jew settlers, before Balfour declaration for the establishment of the State of Israel in Palestine. British colonial government then recognized Palestinians as the majority, hence, they had control over the majority of the land.

Due to the promised of the UK government to Zionists movement on assisting them to create a country for the Israelis, as most of them were minorities in different countries around the world, while they suffered from racism, persecution and execution, it appeared to them of being victims of those circumstances due to their status of being seen as foreigners and identified as Jews. Very obvious that they were stateless people. A state of theirs needed to be established, that dream was aided by British Empire that had many colonies under her hegemony.

But Palestine rejected the two state resolution due to their claimed that land allocated to them were not fertile lands while those allocated to Israelis were fertile, that there's injustice in the sharing which needed to be reviewed. But British and other Western powers systemically ignored the concern of Palestinians. This led to option of violent from Palestine which inculcated them in their current sorrowful situation.

Conclusively, I only pictured the reason why Palestine rejected the two states resolution, which is because of partiality of the West arrangement and ignoring of the Palestinians concerns since that period up till date. This is very obvious on responses of the West on issues of human right abusing unabated by Israeli government against Palestinians daily. It was also enhancing apartheid government, as it can be compared to what South Africa experienced under White South Africans minorities that rule over the black of South Africans majority which also caused by British since 1910 and ended when Mandela elected as president. It also changes Palestinian people to become colony of Israelis on their own land. Two states resolution is still the main gear for the peace because separation in peace is far better than togetherness in trouble.

The whole land is desert it's definitely not fertile and stop peddling lies they never wanted to dwell with the Jews ..Iran is 20 times bigger than Isreal as usual they are they can't tolerate others .

Palestine are migrants who came to occupy Jerusalem and the country never existed as a nation until when the Arabs in the whole middle East saw the need for the creation is Isreal they quickly gave them a name ....
All the cities in the so called Palestine are Still Jewish till today.....
Isreal would definitely pummel and hammer Hamas out of existence

nlfpmod:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/egypt-warned-israel-days-before-hamas-attacked-us-lawmaker/

Ukraine-Russia war has suddenly become sidelined as a potential WW3 by the Israeli-Hammas war. Let us pray and be vigilant before there sympathisers start there own here in Nigeria.

Tallesty1:
I believe Israel intentionally ignored the warning so that they would have a good reason to go to war with Hamas. Unfortunately, the destruction of lives and properties was much greater than they expected. They underestimated Hamas.

On the other hand, I don't understand what pushed Hamas to start something that they clearly can't finish. I feel like someone may have pushed them with a promise of support that we are yet to see.

yeaa

ecolime:
Like many people said earlier, it could be a case of bitter-sweet bait. Allow them attack you so you can have valid reasons to pound them hard and take more lands.

But then, if Israel had attacked Hamas (Plus potential rocket launch sites) first after receiving the intel, this same Egypt and the rest of Arab world would still scream murder.

You are very intelligent.
Hamas terrorists and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and allied forces against Egypt and Israel.

GUNITGuy:

The whole land is desert it's definitely not fertile and stop peddling lies they never wanted to dwell with the Jews ..Iran is 20 times bigger than Isreal as usual they are they can't tolerate others .

Palestine are migrants who came to occupy Jerusalem and the country never existed as a nation until when the Arabs in the whole middle East saw the need for the creation is Isreal they quickly gave them a name ....
All the cities in the so called Palestine are Still Jewish till today.....
Isreal would definitely pummel and hammer Hamas out of existence

Thanks for your knowledge of history.

Let's pray for them

GUNITGuy:

The whole land is desert it's definitely not fertile and stop peddling lies they never wanted to dwell with the Jews ..Iran is 20 times bigger than Isreal as usual they are they can't tolerate others .

Palestine are migrants who came to occupy Jerusalem and the country never existed as a nation until when the Arabs in the whole middle East saw the need for the creation is Isreal they quickly gave them a name ....
All the cities in the so called Palestine are Still Jewish till today.....
Isreal would definitely pummel and hammer Hamas out of existence

Go and make research on historical facts of the land occupied by Israeli and Palestinians that known as Philistine in ancient period. Let me give you intro - The ancient Philistines were in the land of Canaan before Moses and the Israelites claimed it as their Promised Land from God. The conflict over Canaan territory and religious and cultural differences between Israelites and Philistines led to many battles between the two nations. You'll know that it's not only Jews existed on the land during the ancient, medieval and modern period. painting the conflict religious has soiled your views and beclouded your objectivity on this Israeli-Gaza war.

Tallesty1:
I believe Israel intentionally ignored the warning so that they would have a good reason to go to war with Hamas. Unfortunately, the destruction of lives and properties was much greater than they expected. They underestimated Hamas.

On the other hand, I don't understand what pushed Hamas to start something that they clearly can't finish. I feel like someone may have pushed them with a promise of support that we are yet to see.

That doesn't make sense
You know how many Jews have been killed and some held hostage

patriotic007:
I used to support Palestine growing up until I did my own unbiased research and found out that Israel is not the bad guys after all.
Before 1948 the UN offered Isreal and Palestine the two state solution. Two countries living peacefully side by side building their futures. Israel agreed but Palestine refused the offer and started attacking Israel brutally until Israel understood the game and also took up arms to defend themselves.
Palestine has always thought the only solution to the whole land issue was to wipe out Israel and they went into war in 1948 thinking it would be possible to do it.
Israel defeated Palestine and it's Arabs friends and Israel got their country.
Israel quickly started building a very prosperous and technologically advanced nation and gradually the two state solution started vanishing.
Now Palestine are now begging for the same two state solution that they where given free before 1948. They are begging for a two state solution not because they want peace with Israel but because they have now realized that the only way to defeat Israel is to have a country that has a very formidable military that can wipe out Isreal .
Palestine want the two state solution inorder to build an army and weapons to drive Israel into the sea and Israel knows this hence the continued expansion of Israel and it's settlements.
Palestine can never live in peace with Israel and to them the only way to have peace is for Israel to be wiped out completely.
For this reason the world must never allow Palestine to have its own state because it will lead to a massacre that will make the Holo look like a child's play.

Same way Pa Awolowo suggested the secession clause in the Nigerian constitution in the first republic and a greedy tribe refused; only to go into an unnecessary war where 3 million of their tribe people perished. Today, they are still asking for a lefulendum to achieve what was suggested to them easily in late '50s. That tribe that is full of fake christians (I don't want to mention name oh) is the Palestine of Africa but they foolishly call themselves the Jews of Africa.

patriotic007:
I used to support Palestine growing up until I did my own unbiased research and found out that Israel is not the bad guys after all.
Before 1948 the UN offered Isreal and Palestine the two state solution. Two countries living peacefully side by side building their futures. Israel agreed but Palestine refused the offer and started attacking Israel brutally until Israel understood the game and also took up arms to defend themselves.
Palestine has always thought the only solution to the whole land issue was to wipe out Israel and they went into war in 1948 thinking it would be possible to do it.
Israel defeated Palestine and it's Arabs friends and Israel got their country.
Israel quickly started building a very prosperous and technologically advanced nation and gradually the two state solution started vanishing.
Now Palestine are now begging for the same two state solution that they where given free before 1948. They are begging for a two state solution not because they want peace with Israel but because they have now realized that the only way to defeat Israel is to have a country that has a very formidable military that can wipe out Isreal .
Palestine want the two state solution inorder to build an army and weapons to drive Israel into the sea and Israel knows this hence the continued expansion of Israel and it's settlements.
Palestine can never live in peace with Israel and to them the only way to have peace is for Israel to be wiped out completely.
For this reason the world must never allow Palestine to have its own state because it will lead to a massacre that will make the Holo look like a child's play.

I was like that too until I discovered that no matter what Isreal did some people were still out to destroy Isreal

patriotic007:
State on instance that Ukraine carried out such barbaric terrorist act on Russia like the one Palestine carried out on Israel on Saturday....if you can't then shame on you.

Ukraine already carried out the attack on Russia since 2014! Most of you ignoramus are not aware that the Russian-Ukrainian war started since 2014! Also, you stated in your previous post that you already picked Isreal over Palestine long before now. So your position is not one that came to be as a result of this very Hamas attack.

We will be exposing your hypocrisy

Israel has been sniping palestinian children all year before this event.

Mccullum:


Go and make research on historical facts of the land occupied by Israeli and Palestinians that known as Philistine in ancient period. Let me give you intro - The ancient Philistines were in the land of Canaan before Moses and the Israelites claimed it as their Promised Land from God. The conflict over Canaan territory and religious and cultural differences between Israelites and Philistines led to many battles between the two nations. You'll know that it's not only Jews existed on the land during the ancient, medieval and modern period. painting the conflict religious has soiled your views and beclouded your objectivity on this Israeli-Gaza war.

Are you then insinuating that the Jerusalem is owned by those Arab migrants .....
Philistine isn't Palestine it was the Romans that called those Place Palestine under roman like a Province after the Jews Rebel it became a subset of Syria then ottoman came and that was how Jerusalem was occupied by Gentiles.....

Mccullum:


Go and make research on historical facts of the land occupied by Israeli and Palestinians that known as Philistine in ancient period. Let me give you intro - The ancient Philistines were in the land of Canaan before Moses and the Israelites claimed it as their Promised Land from God. The conflict over Canaan territory and religious and cultural differences between Israelites and Philistines led to many battles between the two nations. You'll know that it's not only Jews existed on the land during the ancient, medieval and modern period. painting the conflict religious has soiled your views and beclouded your objectivity on this Israeli-Gaza war.

Please give a name of a Palestinian King, President or Prime Minister before 1948...They had none they knew the People that own those places..There was no leader Palestine was immediately created out of Jerusalem to secure Religious Site for the Arabs ....We all know the Truth you can't tell me the Jews have no place in the middle East that only Arabs has everything.......Iran is 20 times bigger than Isreal so is Syria lebanon, Jordan all this countries are so big yet a small Isreali Settlement is giving them headache....
The Jews must have a place to call home and thats present day Isreal.....
Have you ever asked no other civilisation survived in the middle east including Egypt ..All this countries like Tunisia, Libya, Algeria anf Egypt the original owners were black similar to the people of present day Sudan but they were wiped out but you won't know ...It's not uncommon to see some ethnic group tracing their lineage to Sudan or Egypt ...The Egyptian civilization was never by Arabs it was by Black people like you and I ...If we were to go by it we should send them out from Algeria to Egypt to Tunisia to Libya and Morocco..

GUNITGuy:

Are you then insinuating that the Jerusalem is owned by those Arab migrants .....
Philistine isn't Palestine it was the Romans that called those Place Palestine under roman like a Province after the Jews Rebel it became a subset of Syria then ottoman came and that was how Jerusalem was occupied by Gentiles.....

Go and verify on historical research by asking what is the modern Identity of Philistine people. Just like how Persia now known as Iran, same as how Abyssinia now known as Ethiopia.

Mccullum:


Go and verify on historical research by asking what is the modern Identity of Philistine people. Just like how Persia now known as Iran, same as how Abyssinia now known as Ethiopia.

Ok I would make my findings about the Philistine and Palestine

Fugazy2023:
Israel knows about the impending attack from Hamas 100%. However, they allowed it so that they can use the opportunity and an excuse to finally level Gaza permanently. Smart thinking you may say.
They don't mind the prize to pay for Israeli death for now but they will be free from terrorism in the future.

You just spoke my mind

amaridigital:


Same way Pa Awolowo suggested the secession clause in the Nigerian constitution in the first republic and a greedy tribe refused; only to go into an unnecessary war where 3 million of their tribe people perished. Today, they are still asking for a lefulendum to achieve what was suggested to them easily in late '50s. That tribe that is full of fake christians (I don't want to mention name oh) is the Palestine of Africa but they foolishly call themselves the Jews of Africa.

The tribe that started killing innocent civilians randomly because some officers from a particular regions carried out a childish coup was what made the other tribe decide to go it's separate way..... Bloodshed is not always the answer to every grievance because nobody has the monopoly of violence.

NOETHNICITY:
Ukraine already carried out the attack on Russia since 2014! Most of you ignoramus are not aware that the Russian-Ukrainian war started since 2014! Also, you stated in your previous post that you already picked Isreal over Palestine long before now. So your position is not one that came to be as a result of this very Hamas attack.

We will be exposing your hypocrisy

Give us dates , locations, survival testimonies,pictures,burial sites,memorials,....I needs facts....tell me when Ukrainian fighters entered Russian territory to murder sleeping women and children.

[quote author=Tallesty1 post=126351918][font=georgia]I believe Israel intentionally ignored the warning so that they would have a good reason to go to war with Hamas. Unfortunately, the destruction of lives and properties was much greater than they expected. They underestimated Hamas.

On the other hand, I don't understand what pushed Hamas to start something that they clearly can't finish. I feel like someone may have pushed them with a promise of support that we are yet to see.

Maybe Iran and Hezbollah

nlfpmod:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/egypt-warned-israel-days-before-hamas-attacked-us-lawmaker/

True that.

patriotic007:
I used to support Palestine growing up until I did my own unbiased research and found out that Israel is not the bad guys after all.
Before 1948 the UN offered Isreal and Palestine the two state solution. Two countries living peacefully side by side building their futures. Israel agreed but Palestine refused the offer and started attacking Israel brutally until Israel understood the game and also took up arms to defend themselves.
Palestine has always thought the only solution to the whole land issue was to wipe out Israel and they went into war in 1948 thinking it would be possible to do it.
Israel defeated Palestine and it's Arabs friends and Israel got their country.
Israel quickly started building a very prosperous and technologically advanced nation and gradually the two state solution started vanishing.
Now Palestine are now begging for the same two state solution that they where given free before 1948. They are begging for a two state solution not because they want peace with Israel but because they have now realized that the only way to defeat Israel is to have a country that has a very formidable military that can wipe out Isreal .
Palestine want the two state solution inorder to build an army and weapons to drive Israel into the sea and Israel knows this hence the continued expansion of Israel and it's settlements.
Palestine can never live in peace with Israel and to them the only way to have peace is for Israel to be wiped out completely.
For this reason the world must never allow Palestine to have its own state because it will lead to a massacre that will make the Holo look like a child's play.

Quote your source, else stop spitting nonsense on space.

patriotic007:
This your stance of Palestine must have it all or nothing is the exact reason Palestine is where they are today.....I am not interested in who own the land or who was there first because that argument is an infinity argument with no end......I am only interested in who rejected a peaceful solution that would have saved millions of lives since 75years ago and now still playing the victim.

Sir in your UNBIASED RESEARCH , did you discover that the British first offered the Jews a portion of land in present day Kenya to serve as a Jewish nation but the rejected it with the claim that by the book of exudes they have a claim on the area of land Palestine was occupying then. And that was what they did. If we want a lasting solution, we shouldn't shy away from the root cause of the problem.