TMKsouth:


Go argue with UN rights experts and Amnesty International - they'll educate u.

I have no time to argue with apartheid sympathisers - a quality of mine u can copy if u dont like my views on this forum.

Botragelad:

You are ignorant!
The situations in Israel and South Africa are not identical. Israel is a complex and diverse society, with multiple ethnic and religious groups living together. South Africa, under apartheid, was a very different society, with a strict system of racial segregation in place.

One key difference between Israel and South Africa is the concept of citizenship. All citizens of Israel, regardless of race or religion, have equal rights under the law. In South Africa, non-white citizens were not considered equal, and were denied basic rights and freedoms. Right or wrong?
Israel has an elected government, while South Africa was ruled by a white minority that denied the majority of its citizens the right to vote. These are just a few of the differences between the two societies, which make the comparison of apartheid and Israel inaccurate. Again, do you understand what apartheid mean!

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I stand with Palestine 100%

Botragelad:

Why not make use of your head, and counter my statement. You shouldn't have responded if you were going to direct me to UN!

Urheadmaster:
Palestinians are very violent people just like south Africa and xenophobia

Arapmoi22:


The definition of Apartheid has keywords.

1. segregation
2. discrimination
3. on grounds of race

Bro, if you don't know that all these are happening in Israel, Gaza and Occupied West Bank, then your ignorance is Massive.

TMKsouth:


I used my head to direct u to the UN and Amnesty International who have already countered your flawed definition of modern day apartheid in the Middle East. Israel is practicing apartheid against the Palestinians.

Botragelad:

I'm not one of those you mug off on here. Try to hide your ignorance. I just explained and told you what apartheid means, where did I say your country didn't experience it?

I'm trying to let you know what apartheid means and how you shouldn't misuse the word, I even gave you difference between Israel's case and South Africa. What rubbish are you still talking!

EcoNews:
So in your delusion Palestine have same right in Isreal today with how Isreal keep pushing back against agreed terms, stealing their land n farms, denying access to health, trade, travel or you just want to speak ignorantly out of your delusion ?!.

TMKsouth:
President Cyril Ramaphosa says officials were working on an evacuation plan for South Africans who are trapped in the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Ramaphosa, who was attending the National Executive Committee meeting of the ruling ANC party on Saturday, said they have also received calls from various countries in the Middle East to send humanitarian assistance to Gaza.

Hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza have been without water, food and electricity for almost a week since Israel started bombing Gaza. Israel also cut off the supply of fuel, water and electricity.

But Ramaphosa and the ANC NEC condemned the decision by the Israeli government to force 1.1 million people in northern Gaza to move to southern Gaza.

He said what was happening in Gaza amounted to genocide and the world must stand up for the Palestinians.

South Africa was willing to participate in any peace process to resolve the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

As you know this is an unfolding situation and it changes hour by hour. Our government agencies, our international relations department as well as our intelligence services and our defence intelligence are monitoring the situation on an ongoing basis,” said Ramaphosa.

“To this end we have called on the international community, the United Nations and all other concerned organisations that peace is restored in Palestine and that the Israeli government is directed at withdrawing this command of getting people out of northern part of Gaza because in the end it is going to amount to almost genocide as many people are going to die.

“As we speak now half-a-million people, who are Palestinians, have been displaced. They have been removed from their homes, they live in schools and other areas as well. This is the most tragic situation and almost dangerous situation that the people of Palestine have been exposed to,” said Ramaphosa.

He said humanitarian corridors must be opened to allow for the supply of food, water, fuel and other needs. Electricity must also be restored to the people of Gaza.

Ramaphosa said they were also concerned that the conflict may spill over into the Middle East and drag other countries in the region.

There were already conflicts in Africa and Ukraine, and the world cannot afford to have another conflict.

Botragelad:

Explain to us. Stop making allegations, explain how it classifies as apartheid.

TMKsouth:


I see you're one very confused wannabe wise guy. Go read up on how Israel treats and historically treated people in the occupied Palestinian territories as the occupier. I've provided u with the reading sources.

You're stuck on referring to internal policies within the state of Israel itself and think u're making valid points about the definition of apartheid. You're wasting our time.

chopnaira:
BRIC are siding with Palestine.while the West are siding with Israel.

KingCold:
Cool of him, but I hate how pro-active he is on outside issues but ignore domestic ones, just look how visible this guy was on the Ukraine War but is quiet on issues close to home like the illegal miners, kids dying of food poisoning, etc ,etc.. ke pr3sident wa straata nje

Botragelad:

I'm afraid you are mistaken in using the term "apartheid" to describe it. Israel is not an apartheid state, and there are significant differences between its policies and those of South Africa under apartheid.

• On the ground of segregation, apartheid in South Africa enforced a strict separation of races in all aspects of life, from education, health, housing, transport, employment, marriage, and voting. Non-whites were denied citizenship and forced to live in designated areas called Bantustans, which were poor and underdeveloped.

Israel does not segregate its citizens or residents based on race or ethnicity. All Israeli citizens, regardless of their background, have equal rights and duties under the law. They can live, work, study, travel, marry, and vote anywhere in the country. Israel also provides or provided services and infrastructure to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, who are not Israeli citizens but have their own authorities and institutions.

• On the ground of discrimination, apartheid in South Africa discriminated against non-whites in every sphere of society. Non-whites were subjected to inferior and unequal treatment, such as lower wages, poorer education, inadequate health care, restricted movement, and limited political representation. Again, Israel does not discriminate against its citizens or residents based on race or ethnicity. All Israeli citizens have equal access and opportunities to education, health care, etc.

• On grounds of race you made mention of, South Africa was based on the ideology of white supremacy and racial hierarchy. It classified people into four racial groups: white, black, coloured (mixed race), and Asian. It assigned different rights and privileges to each group according to their skin colour and ancestry.
Tell me, is Israel based on any racial ideology or hierarchy? Simple sense.

There is no comparison between Israel and South Africa under apartheid. Stop misusing the word!

Botragelad:

Explain to us or piss off!

Arapmoi22:



And the types like you will be complaining of how land grabbers (omoniles) take away your land when you grow up.
Don't complain.
Take it as an act of the gods.

You are probably one of those who claims Christianity without knowing what Christ taught.

Botragelad:

I'm afraid you are mistaken in using the term "apartheid" to describe it. Israel is not an apartheid state, and there are significant differences between its policies and those of South Africa under apartheid.

• On the ground of segregation, apartheid in South Africa enforced a strict separation of races in all aspects of life, from education, health, housing, transport, employment, marriage, and voting. Non-whites were denied citizenship and forced to live in designated areas called Bantustans, which were poor and underdeveloped.

Israel does not segregate its citizens or residents based on race or ethnicity. All Israeli citizens, regardless of their background, have equal rights and duties under the law. They can live, work, study, travel, marry, and vote anywhere in the country. Israel also provides or provided services and infrastructure to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, who are not Israeli citizens but have their own authorities and institutions.

• On the ground of discrimination, apartheid in South Africa discriminated against non-whites in every sphere of society. Non-whites were subjected to inferior and unequal treatment, such as lower wages, poorer education, inadequate health care, restricted movement, and limited political representation. Again, Israel does not discriminate against its citizens or residents based on race or ethnicity. All Israeli citizens have equal access and opportunities to education, health care, etc.

• On grounds of race you made mention of, South Africa was based on the ideology of white supremacy and racial hierarchy. It classified people into four racial groups: white, black, coloured (mixed race), and Asian. It assigned different rights and privileges to each group according to their skin colour and ancestry.
Tell me, is Israel based on any racial ideology or hierarchy? Simple sense.

There is no comparison between Israel and South Africa under apartheid. Stop misusing the word!

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I stand with Palestine 100%

TMKsouth:
President Cyril Ramaphosa says officials were working on an evacuation plan for South Africans who are trapped in the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Ramaphosa, who was attending the National Executive Committee meeting of the ruling ANC party on Saturday, said they have also received calls from various countries in the Middle East to send humanitarian assistance to Gaza.

Hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza have been without water, food and electricity for almost a week since Israel started bombing Gaza. Israel also cut off the supply of fuel, water and electricity.

But Ramaphosa and the ANC NEC condemned the decision by the Israeli government to force 1.1 million people in northern Gaza to move to southern Gaza.

He said what was happening in Gaza amounted to genocide and the world must stand up for the Palestinians.

South Africa was willing to participate in any peace process to resolve the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

As you know this is an unfolding situation and it changes hour by hour. Our government agencies, our international relations department as well as our intelligence services and our defence intelligence are monitoring the situation on an ongoing basis,” said Ramaphosa.

“To this end we have called on the international community, the United Nations and all other concerned organisations that peace is restored in Palestine and that the Israeli government is directed at withdrawing this command of getting people out of northern part of Gaza because in the end it is going to amount to almost genocide as many people are going to die.

“As we speak now half-a-million people, who are Palestinians, have been displaced. They have been removed from their homes, they live in schools and other areas as well. This is the most tragic situation and almost dangerous situation that the people of Palestine have been exposed to,” said Ramaphosa.

He said humanitarian corridors must be opened to allow for the supply of food, water, fuel and other needs. Electricity must also be restored to the people of Gaza.

Ramaphosa said they were also concerned that the conflict may spill over into the Middle East and drag other countries in the region.

There were already conflicts in Africa and Ukraine, and the world cannot afford to have another conflict.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I stand with Palestine 100%

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I stand with Palestine 100%