Miracle2020:
Mandela will be crying in his grave if he see what has become of the south Africa he almost die for. This Ramaphosa is a foolish man.
Hamas went into isreal a killed children and women, kidnapped aged and children without any provocation and this animal said he stands with the terrorists.
Why not send his south African soldiers to Gaza so that we can how many will come back.

Dude don't be Foolish because even Mandela supported Palestine when he was still alive and Palestine supported black south Africans during the Apartheid era.

Ibrahim Traore Signs multi billion naira deal with Vladimir Putin for west Africa first Nuclear power station


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHsr9lsK40?si=mXZPaF1B0PnMEXf-

Entanglement:
no wonder the country dey go backward daily

South Africa no be your useless shithole Nigeria, take note.

helpee:
The problem is, the present day Palestinians were not the philistines that were the original indigenous people. The land has belonged to different people over the years depending on where you start your history. The present day Palestinians were by no means the original owner so your logic is flawed

And Israel is the owner ba?

You that understand the bible where did Jesus Christ of Narezeth live when He was on Earth??, is Jesus Christ of Narezeth not a Jew?? Is it not Judaea?? Or Judaea of Jesus was Iraq?? Judaea is present day Palestine, that it name was changed from Judaea to Palestine by Rome Emperor to erase Jewish present in the Land and when the Muslims conquer the land thy build the mosque on the Jewish Temple. Please if you re Christian just maintain your neutrality but if you using history and religious book the land belong to the Jews, even the Muslim Koran confirm it that the land belong to the Jews. Try and read history.

Arapmoi22:


Israel's father's Land is in Ur of Chaldeans (Presently located in Iraq/Iran Border).

Abraham was Born in Ur of Chaldean.

Any of Abraham's children is entitled to land in Ur of Chaldeans (Father's land).

The land they went to temporarily occupied in Haran (Modern day Turkey/Syria border) and permanently occupied in Canaan (Modern day West Bank, Gaza & Israel) were not originally their father's land.

They only migrated to possess what actually belonged to someone else. Bible did not argue this.

Just that they felt entitled that someone they believed told their father (Abraham) that he would give them another man's land.

In Genesis to Deuteronomy, bible did not tell us that those lands belonged to nobody. It told us that the occupiers (Israel) should go and contend with the indigenous people.

Imagine someone come to your hometown now, and say that one god of his fathers says he has given them your town for a possession, how will you respond?

Many who kept on cheering Israel don't read Bible. Many who read it are living in hypocrisy as if God did not create all humans.

My Brother, we might have disagreed on many other issues, but on Israel's occupation of Gaza and West Bank, I agree with you 100%.

Lemme say this. Many of us who claimed Christianity do not understand the bible.

Christians are Christ-like people. Are the Jews perpetrating apartheid against the Palestinians Christian? NO.
This same annihilation was what they did to JESUS CHRIST.

I am for Christ who preached LOVE.
I am not for TORAH that preached an eye for an eye.

Antoeni:
They didn't call for Solidarity when Hamas started firing rockets into Israel without any provocation.

If Hamas was winning, would they have called for Solidarity?

They are very unreasonable but we see beyond their pretence.
The over 5000 rockets fired from GAZA into Isreal was meant to do what?
Entertain Isrealis abi?
Or were the rockets designed to identify worship centers, hospital, schools , children Elderly etc
If not for the iron dome.
Isreal would have been desolate by now.
No to Terrorism!

TheSuperX:
You dey call country wey better pass your own 100 times cursed? you are your entire lineages are the ones that are cursed.

hahaha, the thing pain you? Without the West that laid the strong economic foundation, SA would have been worse than the Chad Republic.
Think deeply before you respond

Indelibleage:



I suggest you read your Bible all over again. You started your analysis well but got it mixed up in the middle.

Then, go and do a definitive and exhaustive research on how Israel first lost their place until 1948. You will find out that your account up there did not add up. Check what happened to them and why they went into captivity, number of years they spent there and how they returned back to the same land.

After your findings, come back and correct what you put up here. I'm not in anyway in support of the fight but we should be praying for them to ceasefire.

Thank you.

You will only understand that canaan does belong to someone else, not Israel.

When someone takes your father's house and land from you in the name of his God has given the land to him.

Why not argue that Abraham was not born in Ur of Chaldean and that there were no inhabitants in Canaan before they arrived there?

Hezzyluv:
What is he waiting for?? Let him send his military to show full support for the Palestinians mbok.

Anybody wey the thin dey pepper, knows road to Palestine.

well, I stand with Palestine


Some unidentified strangers can't just come from nowhere and be dragging my ancestral land with me!

They should go to their ancestral home or go to hell

fx45:
Don't be ignorant!

1. Abraham had two sons... Isaac and Ishmael. Who are the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael.
2. Where are those people displaced by the Israelites prior to occupying the land of Canaan?

Go and read Deuteronomy and confirm to me whether everything and everyone on canaan were killed by the Israelis on the way to possessing somebody else land given to them by their God.

When you confirm that nothing was alive, I will then engage you further.

I see what you did there comrade

Fiscus105:




When will you allow white minority to rule south Africa again? Just the way USA allowed Obama and UK allowed sunak?


Or dnt u think black and white are supposed to have equal rights, so far they are citizens.

Arapmoi22:


And Israel is the owner ba?

It doesn’t matter. You made it look like the Israelis took the land originally from the Palestinians. No. The Palestinians themselves came to the land long after the fall Jerusalem by ALEXANDER THE GREAT and the first introduction of Islam was during the siege of 636.
You can claim anyone owns the land depending on where you start your history from.

TMKsouth:


I'm a South African and understand apartheid better than you can ever imagine - even if u posted a 1000 page dissertation on this thread. No Nigerian will ever understand what apartheid is or feels like, so give up son. This is apartheid, its not a term we apply loosely to any country.

Trash, instead of countering with facts you choose the emotional bullcrap that's now lame. I stand with Israel 100%

11doubledee:

Let's all think beyond this non binding Balfour over a century old statement and think of how peace can be made and for the next generation to live a good life .
Ancient maps have always shown the ancestral land of the Jews shares close proximity with both Egypt and Philistia (today's Palestine)
Migration through enslavement,famine and extermination has made them wandered for centuries.
Although the actual borders may be contentious.
Even ancient Philistian,Arabs can't deny the Jews,they have always been neighbors.
Part of Nigeria today is actually owned by Rep. of Benin but it's been a Long time and events have overtaken that.
Which will be almost impossible to ever reclaim.
I'm also tired of seeing Palestinians die because of HAMAS foolishness.

Hamas foolishness yea, but I tell you, the Israeli government has been killing this people for decades. What Hamas did is a fraction of what the Israeli government had been doing to Palestinians without the usual media uproar.

My grouse with Hamas and Israel is; Hamas killed those people indiscriminately. People who weren't Israelis were killed same way Israel is killing anyone in Gaza not minding what nationality he or she belongs to.

It's a whole lotta crazy stuff over there.

MOGPman:

The earth and the fullness thereof belongs to the Lord. Who are you mere mortal to change that which God has sanctioned? God had given the land (Cannan) to the Israelites for an inheritance and there is nothing you can do!

Like southern Kaduna can be wiped out because the Hausa-Fulanis believes Allah has given it to them?

By extension, can't they beleaguered that Allah has given the whole of Nigeria to them?

N.a. mumu full this Nairaland.
During apartheid era in south Africa, Israel was providing support for the white minority rule.

quickee:



Are the Palestinians bombing and killing innocent people justified? Are you presently living in your father’s village? Are the people living around you bombing you? Did you see the wicked acts perpetrated by the Palestinian terrorists? Let us not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Israel has never killed nor attacked unprovoked.

No, Hamas is declared a terrorist organisation just like Ipob.

Is it justifiable to kill innocent citizens? NO.

Is it justifiable that someone someone takes your village land claiming his God told him the land has been given to them?

Is it justifiable for Hausa-Fulanis to take over Southern Kaduna because they believe Allah has given it to them?

But quickly edit the part that says Israel has never attacked unprovoked.
They've been doing it daily since 1947.

This year, They've been killing average of 2 or 3 Palestinians daily.

Within 6 months (Jan to June), that's 180×2 =360, 180×3 = 540.
Go read more.

Hypocrisy will make many of you explain until you are tired.

Hezzyluv:
What is he waiting for?? Let him send his military to show full support for the Palestinians mbok.

Anybody wey the thin dey pepper, knows road to Palestine.

no mind the maga wey no talk as Arab league was on isreal alone. Hamas drew the first blood and he was dumb . They let the heat on them , now he is bleating as if it would take his lazy military a day to reach gaza to the rescue

Miracle2020:
This mumu man supposed to be beaten like a market thief. So the1300 people killed by the Hamas terrorists doesn't matter abi? Palestine are terrorists,they are the people that give cover to the terrorists.
This idiot don't know what is awaiting him.
The whole Africa stand with Isreal except this idiot.

^^^


Read up on this conflict and its origins and educate yourself properly.

Once you have done that, you will modify your position.

Make Malema catch this idiot

Botragelad:

You are ignorant!
The situations in Israel and South Africa are not identical. Israel is a complex and diverse society, with multiple ethnic and religious groups living together. South Africa, under apartheid, was a very different society, with a strict system of racial segregation in place.

One key difference between Israel and South Africa is the concept of citizenship. All citizens of Israel, regardless of race or religion, have equal rights under the law. In South Africa, non-white citizens were not considered equal, and were denied basic rights and freedoms. Right or wrong?
Israel has an elected government, while South Africa was ruled by a white minority that denied the majority of its citizens the right to vote. These are just a few of the differences between the two societies, which make the comparison of apartheid and Israel inaccurate. Again, do you understand what apartheid mean!

lecture the educated illiterate

Arapmoi22:


Like southern Kaduna can be wiped out because the Hausa-Fulanis believes Allah has given it to them?

By extension, can't they beleaguered that Allah has given the whole of Nigeria to them?

You are not sincere in your argument so it is totally flawed and biased. Yes, that was how they were claiming lands in those days.

The Muslims first came to Jerusalem in 636. Guess what they did? They laid a siege to the land till the inhabitants surrendered. Same way ISREAL is laying siege now. Even the Ottoman Empire that eventually ruled before the British took over used war conquest to claim all the lands they were ruling. The British took over from Ottoman after world war by defeating them.
Therefore, you are correct, war was the language in those era and you can’t use that to judge now

palsenator:
Don't mind that idiot talking about apartheid. You will be surprised that he is just a fresh secondary school graduate.

^^^
He knows what he is saying. There are clear parallels between apartheid SA and Israeli administration of Gaza & the West Bank.

There is a reason why South Africans view Western European, North American and Isreali government with suspicion. There is also a reason why South Africans have a much more cordial relationship with the people of Cuba, Russia and Angola. I leave you to find out what those reasons are.

Botragelad:

You are ignorant!
The situations in Israel and South Africa are not identical. Israel is a complex and diverse society, with multiple ethnic and religious groups living together. South Africa, under apartheid, was a very different society, with a strict system of racial segregation in place.

One key difference between Israel and South Africa is the concept of citizenship. All citizens of Israel, regardless of race or religion, have equal rights under the law. In South Africa, non-white citizens were not considered equal, and were denied basic rights and freedoms. Right or wrong?
Israel has an elected government, while South Africa was ruled by a white minority that denied the majority of its citizens the right to vote. These are just a few of the differences between the two societies, which make the comparison of apartheid and Israel inaccurate. Again, do you understand what apartheid mean!

You get time to explain. Some people can’t understand even if you explain from now till tomorrow.

emapeteum:

Very intelligent fellow, unlike those who are twisting the history of apartheid

^^^

You misunderstood his point.

There are striking similarities between apartheid South Africa and Israel's control of the West Bank and Gaza. Get it now?

You either support Israel or stand with Terrorism

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I stand with Palestine 100%

Nightwolf1:



Hamas foolishness yea, but I tell you, the Israeli government has been killing this people for decades. What Hamas did is a fraction of what the Israeli government had been doing to Palestinians without the usual media uproar.

My grouse with Hamas and Israel is; Hamas killed those people indiscriminately. People who weren't Israelis were killed same way Israel is killing anyone in Gaza not minding what nationality he or she belongs to.

It's a whole lotta crazy stuff over there.

There are documented cases of suicide bombings, kidnappings, sporadic gun and knife attack against isrealis but you chose to ignore all that and talk about isreal's reaction.
So how many non nationalities have isreal killed in Palestine?
I'm quite happy you condemned HAMAS actions.
Are you aware that lsreali athletes were abducted and slaughtered on live tv in Germany in 1972?
What is the Sense in what HAMAS did Last Saturday or what did they plan to achieve?
HAMAS is the obstacle to peace in Gaza.
I also want Palestinians as well as Isrealis to have live a good life.
Terrorism or Violence is never the answer.

Karnice600:



So the Arab war against Israel was Apartheid driven? Have you even taken a closer look at Jews and Arabs to see how genetically similar they are? Here you are talking about racial discrimination.
I don’t know what you guys smoke for a living.

How can one argue with someone who knows little about what he's talking about?
Apartheid it is.

Housing:


Not in the present world. We are all condemning Russia for invading Ukraine. Going by your ideology there will never be peace in the whole world. Imagine America invading Nigeria because of our natural resources?

There are parts of Ukraine who wants to be free from Ukraine and gain independence from Ukraine just the way Palestinians wants to be free and gain independence from isreal but Ukraine will never let that happen

If you want every separatists to gain independence then you will expect not more than 100 countries to emerge from countries stopping them from getting independence

SA is really desperate to allign with the Anti-US allies.... Let's see how it goes.

One thing I know is that I would rather the US continue to be the world powers than Russia or China. This two people are ruthless and kuku h@te bl@cks but the bl@vk man is stewpid and cannot see beyond thier noses.

DKM123:
SA is really desperate to allign with the anti US allies.... Let's see how it goes.

One thing I know is that I would rather the US continue to be the world powers than Russia or China. This two people are ruthless and kuku h@te bl@cks but the bl@vk man is stewpid and cannot see beyond thier noses.

And also very hostile to ISLAM!
USA,France,Uk etc is even more tolerant of islam

helpee:
You are not sincere in your argument so it is totally flawed and biased. Yes, that was how they were claiming lands in those days.

The Muslims first came to Jerusalem in 636. Guess what they did? They laid a siege to the land till the inhabitants surrendered. Same way ISREAL is laying siege now. Even the Ottoman Empire that eventually ruled before the British took over used war conquest to claim all the lands they were ruling. The British took over from Ottoman after world war by defeating them.
Therefore, you are correct, war was the language in those era and you can’t use that to judge now

Uncle, don't quote nonsense dates without adding BC or AD (hoping you know what that means).


After that, you will show us the BC when Abraham left his own father's land to go possess another man's land.

If you all continue to claim the earth is the Lord's, why is it only the Lord's for Israel to expand at the expense of Palestinians.
Why can't it be the Lord's when Hausa-Fulanis takes over the whole of Nigeria?

Una go explain tire because of hypocrisy.