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Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op):
Followers of Jesus christ are using cars, mobile phones, Internet, TVs etc today. But when these technologies were first invented, followers of Jesus christ will say they are from the devil and it's a sign that Jesus christ is coming soon.
When the first car was invented, followers of Jesus christ called the inventor of Benz the devil driving an infernal carriage. So what has changed today that the followers of Jesus christ are now driving Benz as a sign of Jesus christ answering their prayers.

Only if Jesus christ and his disciples were inventors and scientist Nigeria would have been a more developed country than what we have now as all christian in Nigeria will have a mind of an inventor and a scientist and not what we have today with most people waiting for the 2000 year old scam of the second coming.

The only way now is for all worship centres to be turned to indiginouse science and technology centres by so doing Nigeria in a few decades you start to export it's technology to the rest of the world like China is doing today.

To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities.

Happy New Sunday!

Happy New Technological Advanced Nigeria In A Few Decades!
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 1:19pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Followers of Jesus christ are using cars, mobile phones, Internet, TVs etc today. But when these technologies were first invented, followers of Jesus christ will say they are from the devil and it's a sign that Jesus christ is coming soon.
When the first car was invented, followers of Jesus christ called the inventor of Benz the devil driving an infernal carriage. So what has changed today that the followers of Jesus christ are now driving Benz as a sign of Jesus christ answering their prayers.

Only if Jesus christ and his disciples were inventors and scientist Nigeria would have been a more developed country than what we have now as all christian in Nigeria will have a mind of an inventor and a scientist and not what we have today with most people waiting for the 2000 year old scam of the second coming.

The only way now is for all worship centres to be turned to indiginouse science and technology centres by so doing Nigeria in a few decades you start to export it's technology to the rest of the world like China is doing today.

To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities.

Happy New Sunday!

Happy New Technological Advanced Nigeria In A Few Decades!
First, Next time start your poorly researched write up with 'This is the ignorant opinion of myself and has nothing to do with reality on ground'.
That will safe us the headache of responding to u.

2. Tell me the religion of the ff people:
Galileo, Isaac Newton, guttenburg- inventor of the printing press, Michael Faraday.

See below the list of scientist and inventors who identifies as Christians even in 21st century.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology#:~:text=John%20Playfair%20(1748%E2%80%931819)%3A,invented%20the%20first%20electric%20battery.

FYI, 66% of Nobel prize in science believe in Jesus Christ and identifies as Christians.

3. Tell me the national religion of America when the attained the global superpower in the early 20th century.
America started their country with prayer in 1660 when it was established, they wrote in God we trust on their currency.
Now that they've rejected God and embrace secular liberalism, how's it going for them?

Nigeria as a failed state has nothing to do with Christianity. In fact it's the opposite of Christianity because the book of James clearly wrote faith without work is dead.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op):
@SIRTee
Your response always shows your ignorance. You lack the ability to do proper research before you post all the nonsense you always post.

My religious view was in my OP: To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities.

These are very good information to help you clear your ignorance:

1. Though Galileo was officially condemned of "vehement suspicion of heresy" by the Roman Inquisition in 1633 for claiming that the Earth actually goes around the Sun. His defense to the charge that his heliocentric cosmology contradicted the plain sense of several passages in the Bible was that the Bible was meant by God to teach us "how to go to Heaven, not how the Heavens go". The vast majority of Catholics today would agree with him on this, and Pope John Paul II himself apologized in 1992 for the condemnation of Galileo. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

2. Newton, on the other hand, held religious views that were explicitly labeled as heretical and punishable by death in the English laws of his day, and which most Christians today still reject. In particular, Newton denied that Jesus Christ was divine and co-equal with God the Father, as proclaimed by the dogma of the Holy Trinity, officially adopted by the Council of Nicaea in the 4th century. At the time this was called "Arianism". https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

3. If you have the ability to do proper research you will be shocked by the foundation and the founding fathers of USA
America's Book Of Secrets: History Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEE5woXr_Is


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLbn4hT0GM

SIRTee15:
First, Next time start your poorly researched write up with 'This is the ignorant opinion of SIRTee15 and has nothing to do with reality on ground'.
That will safe us the headache of responding to u.

2. Tell me the religion of the ff people:
Galileo, Isaac Newton, guttenburg- inventor of the printing press, Michael Faraday.

See below the list of scientist and inventors who identifies as Christians even in 21st century.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology#:~:text=John%20Playfair%20(1748%E2%80%931819)%3A,invented%20the%20first%20electric%20battery.

FYI, 66% of Nobel prize in science believe in Jesus Christ and identifies as Christians.

3. Tell me the national religion of America when the attained the global superpower in the early 20th century.
America started their country with prayer in 1660 when it was established, they wrote in God we trust on their currency.
Now that they've rejected God and embrace secular liberalism, how's it going for them?

Nigeria as a failed state has nothing to do with Christianity. In fact it's the opposite of Christianity because the book of James clearly wrote faith without work is dead.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 2:13pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee
Your response always shows your ignorance. You lack the ability to do any proper research before you post all the nonsense you always post.

These are very good information to help you clear your ignorance:

1. Though Galileo was officially condemned of "vehement suspicion of heresy" by the Roman Inquisition in 1633 for claiming that the Earth actually goes around the Sun,[b] his religious views were conventionally Catholic. [/b]His defense to the charge that his heliocentric cosmology contradicted the plain sense of several passages in the Bible was that the Bible was meant by God to teach us "how to go to Heaven, not how the Heavens go". The vast majority of Catholics today would agree with him on this, and Pope John Paul II himself apologized in 1992 for the condemnation of Galileo. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

2. Newton, on the other hand, held religious views that were explicitly labeled as heretical and punishable by death in the English laws of his day, and which most Christians today still reject. In particular, Newton denied that Jesus Christ was divine and co-equal with God the Father, as proclaimed by the dogma of the Holy Trinity, officially adopted by the Council of Nicaea in the 4th century. At the time this was called "Arianism". https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

3. If you have the ability to do proper research you will be shocked by the foundation and the founding fathers of USA
America's Book Of Secrets: History

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEE5woXr_Is
Your opinion on Isaac Newton and galilieo are based on ignorance and shallow knowledge as usual.
It's like saying Unitarians Christians are not Christians because their believe isn't mainstream.
Even the evidence u brought identified Galileo as Catholic Christian.

Both Galileo and Isaac Newton identified as Christians
The reason Galileo was persecuted was the same reason guttenburg invented the printing press...that everyone could read the bible and know what's in it without depending on church authorities.

Galileo suffered through the humiliation of having to deny his theories in order to save his life. He was Catholic, believed in God, [/b]but, on the other hand, he was a great believer in the role of science and the [b]fascinating beauty of God’s creation.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5871402/#:~:text=Galileo%20suffered%20through%20the%20humiliation,fascinating%20beauty%20of%20God's%20creation.

As for Isaac Newton, he was a Unitarian Christian who rejected the trinity and believe in a subordinate Son to the Father. That makes him no less a Christian.
Isaac did a lot of work on theology that were revealed only after his death.
https://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/contexts/CNTX00001

Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op):
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton and others like him Christianity was a state religion, so whether you have a different view of Christianity or not you are still referred to as a Christian. If you read my OP carefully you will read I said: To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities. This you keep avoiding to show your deception. To you not holding on to your invented Christian belief of the invented Jesus christ, you believe one is not truly God fearing. I stand by my OP as this is the only way Nigeria can become a developed country in a few decades. Nigeria is a failed state as you mentioned because of your invented jesus christ as you and others keep deceiving gullible followers of the invented second coming of your invented jesus christ.

This is the Isaac Newton you called a Christain. The truth is that Christianity is just a form of identity and does not mean someone is truly God fearing.
Newton's occult studies
Much of what are known as Isaac Newton's occult studies can largely be attributed to his study of alchemy.[3] From a young age, Newton was deeply interested in all forms of natural sciences and materials science, an interest which would ultimately lead to some of his better-known contributions to science. His earliest encounters with certain alchemical theories and practices were during his childhood, when a twelve year old Isaac Newton was boarding in the attic of an apothecaries shop.[4] During Newton's lifetime, the study of chemistry was still in its infancy, so many of his experimental studies used esoteric language and vague terminology more typically associated with alchemy and occultism.[5] It was not until several decades after Newton's death that experiments of stoichiometry under the pioneering works of Antoine Lavoisier were conducted, and analytical chemistry, with its associated nomenclature, came to resemble modern chemistry as we know it today. However, Newton's contemporary and fellow Royal Society member, Robert Boyle, had already discovered the basic concepts of modern chemistry and began establishing modern norms of experimental practice and communication in chemistry, information which Newton did not use.

Much of Newton's writing on alchemy may have been lost in a fire in his laboratory, so the true extent of his work in this area may have been larger than is currently known. Newton also suffered a nervous breakdown during his period of alchemical work.[6]

Newton's writings suggest that one of the main goals of his alchemy may have been the discovery of the philosopher's stone (a material believed to turn base metals into gold), and perhaps to a lesser extent, the discovery of the highly coveted Elixir of Life.[6] Newton reportedly believed that a Diana's Tree, an alchemical demonstration producing a dendritic "growth" of silver from solution, was evidence that metals "possessed a sort of life."[7]

Some practices of alchemy were banned in England during Newton's lifetime, due in part to unscrupulous practitioners who would often promise wealthy benefactors unrealistic results in an attempt to swindle them. The English Crown, also fearing the potential devaluation of gold because of the creation of fake gold, made penalties for alchemy very severe. In some cases the punishment for unsanctioned alchemy would include the public hanging of an offender on a gilded scaffold while adorned with tinsel and other items.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studies

SIRTee15:
Your opinion on Isaac Newton and galilieo are based on ignorance and shallow knowledge as usual.
It's like saying Unitarians Christians are not Christians because their believe isn't mainstream.
Even the evidence u brought identified Galileo as Catholic Christian.

Both Galileo and Isaac Newton identified as Christians
The reason Galileo was persecuted was the same reason guttenburg invented the printing press...that everyone could read the bible and know what's in it without depending on church authorities.

Galileo suffered through the humiliation of having to deny his theories in order to save his life. He was Catholic, believed in God, [/b]but, on the other hand, he was a great believer in the role of science and the [b]fascinating beauty of God’s creation.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5871402/#:~:text=Galileo%20suffered%20through%20the%20humiliation,fascinating%20beauty%20of%20God's%20creation.

As for Isaac Newton, he was a Unitarian Christian who rejected the trinity and believe in a subordinate Son to the Father. That makes him no less a Christian.
Isaac did a lot of work on theology that were revealed only after his death.
https://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/contexts/CNTX00001
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 4:56pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton and others like him Christianity was a state religion, so whether you have a different view of Christianity or not you are still referred to as a Christian. If you read my OP carefully you will read I said: To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities. This you keep avoiding to show your deception. To you not holding on to your invented Christian belief of the invented Jesus christ, you believe one is not truly God fearing. I stand by my OP as this is the only way Nigeria can become a developed country in a few decades. Nigeria is a failed state as you mentioned because of your invented jesus christ as you and others keep deceiving gullible followers of the invented second coming of your invented jesus christ.

This is the Isaac Newton you called a Christain. The truth is that Christianity is just a form of identity and does not mean someone is truly God fearing.
Newton's occult studies
Much of what are known as Isaac Newton's occult studies can largely be attributed to his study of alchemy.[3] From a young age, Newton was deeply interested in all forms of natural sciences and materials science, an interest which would ultimately lead to some of his better-known contributions to science. His earliest encounters with certain alchemical theories and practices were during his childhood, when a twelve year old Isaac Newton was boarding in the attic of an apothecaries shop.[4] During Newton's lifetime, the study of chemistry was still in its infancy, so many of his experimental studies used esoteric language and vague terminology more typically associated with alchemy and occultism.[5] It was not until several decades after Newton's death that experiments of stoichiometry under the pioneering works of Antoine Lavoisier were conducted, and analytical chemistry, with its associated nomenclature, came to resemble modern chemistry as we know it today. However, Newton's contemporary and fellow Royal Society member, Robert Boyle, had already discovered the basic concepts of modern chemistry and began establishing modern norms of experimental practice and communication in chemistry, information which Newton did not use.

Much of Newton's writing on alchemy may have been lost in a fire in his laboratory, so the true extent of his work in this area may have been larger than is currently known. Newton also suffered a nervous breakdown during his period of alchemical work.[6]

Newton's writings suggest that one of the main goals of his alchemy may have been the discovery of the philosopher's stone (a material believed to turn base metals into gold), and perhaps to a lesser extent, the discovery of the highly coveted Elixir of Life.[6] Newton reportedly believed that a Diana's Tree, an alchemical demonstration producing a dendritic "growth" of silver from solution, was evidence that metals "possessed a sort of life."[7]

Some practices of alchemy were banned in England during Newton's lifetime, due in part to unscrupulous practitioners who would often promise wealthy benefactors unrealistic results in an attempt to swindle them. The English Crown, also fearing the potential devaluation of gold because of the creation of fake gold, made penalties for alchemy very severe. In some cases the punishment for unsanctioned alchemy would include the public hanging of an offender on a gilded scaffold while adorned with tinsel and other items.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studies
Waffling as usual.
I'm here to point out to u that there are inventors that believe in Jesus Christ.
Thus your initial claim on the first post is null and void.
Cest fini

Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op): 5:24pm On Oct 22, 2023
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton, not believing in the invented Jesus christ was punishable by death in the English laws of his day. So that was a time everyone must show they believe in the invented Jesus christ. Even with this Isaac Newton still had a different view about the invented Jesus christ. If Isaac Newton was around today surely he would not be scared to say your invented jesus christ never existed.

You ran away from my other post to come here and start your waffling again.

SIRTee15:
SIRTee15 Waffling as usual.
I'm here to point out to u that there are inventors that believe in Jesus Christ.
Thus your initial claim on the first post is null and void.
Cest fini
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15:
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton, not believing in the invented Jesus christ was punishable by death in the English laws of his day. So that was a time everyone must show they believe in the invented Jesus christ. Even with this Isaac Newton still had a different view about the invented Jesus christ. If Isaac Newton was around today surely he would not be scared to say your invented jesus christ never existed.

You ran away from my other post to come here and start your waffling again.
U dont get it, do u?
Isaac Newton's personal view about Christianity was revealed after his death.
He wrote down what he thought about his faith in books and kept it to himself. If he didn't believe in Jesus, he would have documented it.

Isaac Newton was a Unitarian Christian and we still have millions of them today. If Isaac Newton exist today, he will be a Unitarian not an atheist.

Which your other post did I avoid. U didn't even address half of the point I raised.
66% of Nobel prize winners in science identify as Christians even in the 21st century.
What do u ha r to say about that.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op): 5:56pm On Oct 22, 2023
@SIRTee15
So to you not believing in your invented jesus christ makes someone an atheist. During the time of Isaac Newton, they were not allowed to question the Christian Bible so he had no choice but to believe in another type of Jesus christ, but today with all the information available Isaac Newton would have known that Jesus christ was an invention. Isaac Newton believed in God and not believing in your invented jesus christ will not make him an atheist.

Most people believed in the God of the Bible but not in the invented jesus christ, but they are all called Christians.

SIRTee15:
U dont get it, do u?
Isaac Newton's personal view about Christianity was revealed after his death.
He wrote down what he thought about faith on books and kept it to himself. If he didn't believe in Jesus, he wouldn't have documented it.

Isaac Newton was a Unitarian Christian and we still have millions of them today. If Isaac Newton exist today, he will be a Unitarian not an atheist.

Which your other post did I avoid. U didn't even address half of the point I raised.
66% of Nobel prize winners in science identify as Christians even in the 21st century.
What do u ha r to say about that.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 6:09pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
So to you not believing in your invented jesus christ makes someone an atheist. During the time of Isaac Newton, they were not allowed to question the Christian Bible so he had no choice but to believe in another type of Jesus christ, but today with all the information available Isaac Newton would have known that Jesus christ was an invention. Isaac Newton believed in God and not believing in your invented jesus christ will not make him an atheist.

Most people believed in the God of the Bible but not in the invented jesus christ, but they are all called Christians.
Anybody who doesn't believe in Jesus Christ or that he's divine isn't a Christian.
Isaac Newton believed Jesus is divine, he just rejected the idea of trinity. That's Unitarianism and it's still Christianity.
Now let me ask u a question. Were there Unitarian Christians during the time of Isaac Newton?
Did Unitarian Christians exist in the 17th century, the time Isaac Newton lived?
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op): 6:21pm On Oct 22, 2023
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton, not believing in the invented Jesus christ was punishable by death in the English laws of his day.

SIRTee15:
Anybody who doesn't believe in Jesus Christ or that he's divine isn't a Christian.
Isaac Newton believed Jesus is divine, he just rejected the idea of trinity. That's Unitarianism and it's still Christianity.
Now let me ask u a question. Were there Unitarian Christians during the time of Isaac Newton?
Did Unitarian Christians exist in the 17th century, the time Isaac Newton lived?
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by Nobody: 6:30pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee
Your response always shows your ignorance. You lack the ability to do proper research before you post all the nonsense you always post.

My religious view was in my OP: To be God fearing all we need is to read the Ten Commandments daily and to always let it guide us in all our daily activities.

These are very good information to help you clear your ignorance:

1. Though Galileo was officially condemned of "vehement suspicion of heresy" by the Roman Inquisition in 1633 for claiming that the Earth actually goes around the Sun. His defense to the charge that his heliocentric cosmology contradicted the plain sense of several passages in the Bible was that the Bible was meant by God to teach us "how to go to Heaven, not how the Heavens go". The vast majority of Catholics today would agree with him on this, and Pope John Paul II himself apologized in 1992 for the condemnation of Galileo. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

2. Newton, on the other hand, held religious views that were explicitly labeled as heretical and punishable by death in the English laws of his day, and which most Christians today still reject. In particular, Newton denied that Jesus Christ was divine and co-equal with God the Father, as proclaimed by the dogma of the Holy Trinity, officially adopted by the Council of Nicaea in the 4th century. At the time this was called "Arianism". https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Galileo-Galilei-convicted-of-heresy-and-Isaac-Newton-was-not

3. If you have the ability to do proper research you will be shocked by the foundation and the founding fathers of USA
America's Book Of Secrets: History Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEE5woXr_Is


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLbn4hT0GM
In all you v written, your focus is more in Christianity as if it's the only religion on earth.
Many inventors, scientists and history changers fir good are Christians so your reason is still faulty. If you no feel Christianity, waka pass no be by force!
Late laye e, ma post shallow minded threads bayi mo.
Jesus focused on what God sent him to do.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 6:37pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton, not believing in the invented Jesus christ was punishable by death in the English laws of his day.
U answered a question I never asked u. So u see why debating u is pointless. U are one story line Parrott.
I never asked u about historicity of Jesus but evidence of Unitarian Christian.

The problem is u make too many assumptions for your claim to make sense.
There's no single evidence anywhere Isaac Newton doubted the historicity of Jesus.
Isaac is a genius and intelligent man. If he doubted existence of jesus, he would have written about it.

But what he wrote secretly were the FF
1. God is Unitarian.
2. Jesus is divine but subordinate to the Father. He's not God.
3. The gospel of Jesus Christ should be preached until the 2nd coming of Christ.

How the person that harbour above thoughts isn't a Christian can only be explained by desperate Jesus-haters who wanted to force agnosticism on Isaac Newton by fire by force.

Millions of Unitarian Christians during Isaac Newton era had same Christian believe.

All your claim about isaac Newton is mere assumption. Desperate conjecture to make him what he never was.
The claim Isaac Newton wouldn't believe in Jesus Christ in today's era is simply assumption. It's based on nothing. Zero evidence for your claim.

That's why I don't like debating u. U make assumption our of nothing and turn them into fact despite zero evidence.
That's why u keep asking me where is the scroll hidden by the Romans when there's no evidence anywhere that Romans hide any scroll from the Jews in the first place.

Cest fini
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op):
@SIRTee15
You are the one who is an 18 line parrot.

What Isaac Newton wrote down in a time when it was against the law not to believe in your invented jesus christ and what is on his mind are two different things, if it was today he would have been able to say what's on his mind without the fear of going against the law.

Get this straight that believing in your invented jesus christ that was forced on people does not make him a real person. 
1. If your invented jesus christ was a real character then why force him on people for about 2000 years?
2. Show where your invented jesus christ said people should be forced to believe his is a real character?

I'm not in a debate with you. If you don't want to accept the truth that's up to you.

SIRTee15:
U answered a question I never asked u. So u see why debating u is pointless. SIRTee15 is a story Parrott.
I never asked u about historicity of Jesus but evidence of Unitarian Christian.

The problem is u make too many assumptions for your claim to make sense.
There's no single evidence anywhere Isaac Newton doubted the historicity of Jesus.
Isaac is a genius and intelligent man. If he doubted existence of jesus, he would have written about it.

But what he wrote secretly were the FF
1. God is Unitarian.
2. Jesus is divine but subordinate to the Father. He's not God.
3. The gospel of Jesus Christ should be preached until the 2nd coming of Christ.

How the person that harbour above thoughts isn't a Christian can only be explained by desperate Jesus-haters who wanted to force agnosticism on Isaac Newton by fire by force.

Millions of Unitarian Christians during Isaac Newton era had same Christian believe.

All your claim about isaac Newton is mere assumption. Desperate conjecture to make him what he never was.
The claim Isaac Newton wouldn't believe in Jesus Christ in today's era is simply assumption. It's based on nothing. Zero evidence for your claim.

That's why I don't like debating u. U make assumption our of nothing and turn them into fact despite zero evidence.
That's why u keep asking me where is the scroll hidden by the Romans when there's no evidence anywhere that Romans hide any scroll from the Jews in the first place.

Cest fini
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
During the time of Isaac Newton, not believing in the invented Jesus christ was punishable by death in the English laws of his day.
So how did your so called Jews managed to scale through by then? smiley

I told you that America gave us all freedom of speech, expression, worship and association that's why your stupid Judaists are agitating against the mention of Jesus of Nazareth! smiley
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op): 8:52pm On Oct 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So how did Jews managed to scale through by then? smiley
Judaism had received the status of a legal religion in the Roman Empire with formal protections. Although Christianity was invented out of Judaism , but Christains had no such legal protections they were forced to believe in the invented jesus christ.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by SIRTee15: 9:01pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@SIRTee15
You are the one who is an 18 line parrot.

What Isaac Newton wrote down in a time when it was against the law not to believe in your invented jesus christ and what is on his mind are two different things, if it was today he would have been able to say what's on his mind without the fear of going against the law.

Get this straight that believing in your invented jesus christ that was forced on people does not make him a real person. 
1. If your invented jesus christ was a real character then why force him on people for about 2000 years?
2. Show where your invented jesus christ said people should be forced to believe his is a real character?

I'm not in a debate with you. If you don't want to accept the truth that's up to you.
Do u have comprehension issues?
Isaac Newton secretly wrote down his thoughts but didn't share it with anyone. It was only after his death that it become open that his religious views differs with the mainstream of his day
What were these personal religious views? For the upteenth time let me write it for u
Jesus is divine but not God.
God is one and not trinity.
This makes him a Unitarian Christian.

If Isaac Newton were alive today, he will express his Unitarian Christian view without any fear from the church authorities or state leaders.

I don't have time for your waffling. As regards your number 2 let me leave you with this words from Jesus

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Mat 25.14.

Take care of yourself.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14pm On Oct 22, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Judaism had received the status of a legal religion in the Roman Empire with formal protections. Although Christianity was invented out of Judaism , but Christains had no such legal protections they were forced to believe in the invented jesus christ.
You love lying to yourself walahi talahi! grin

Romans destroyed Jerusalem, the temple and all Judaists in that city yet you're saying they legalized the religion that led to a revolt against Rome.
Your story needs a little tuning to make it true! wink
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op): 10:15pm On Oct 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
MaxInDHouse love lying to himself walahi talahi! grin

Romans destroyed Jerusalem, the temple and all Judaists in that city yet you're saying they legalized the religion that led to a revolt against Rome.
Your story needs a little tuning to make it true! wink
If you don't want to researh into history then you are only lying to yourself. There were Jews in the Roman empire that were protected to practice Judaism.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MindHacker9009(op):
@SIRTee15
You must have comprehension issues if not you should know that your invented jesus christ said proclaimed not force on people

Isaac Newton secretly wrote down his thoughts meaning at that time there was no freedom to express ones mind that the invented jesus christ never existed.

SIRTee15:
Do u have comprehension issues?
Isaac Newton secretly wrote down his thoughts but didn't share it with anyone. It was only after his death that it become open that his religious views differs with the mainstream of his day
What were these personal religious views? For the upteenth time let me write it for u
Jesus is divine but not God.
God is one and not trinity.
This makes him a Unitarian Christian.

If Isaac Newton were alive today, he will express his Unitarian Christian view without any fear from the church authorities or state leaders.

I don't have time for your waffling. As regards your number 2 let me leave you with this words from Jesus

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Mat 25.14.

Take care of yourself.
Re: Only If Jesus Christ And His Disciples Were Inventors And Scientists by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:31am On Oct 23, 2023
MindHacker9009:
If you don't want to researh into history then you are only lying to yourself. There were Jews in the Roman empire that were protected to practice Judaism.
When you've been lied to and you love it your senses will be so blurred to the extent you won't be able to think straight anymore.

Now let's reason with what you were told:

Judaists believe in the coming of the Messiah (which they don't agree that Jesus is that Messiah) and the Messiah is to come and put all earthly rulers under the Jews {Daniel 2:44} therefore they're ever ready as in battle prepared to welcome and support anyone of them who will fight to make this happen.
So how do you think they can practice their faith peacefully in Rome the city where those forcefully ruling over them is stationed without having any issues with the Roman authority?

The major reason why the Roman government attacked Jerusalem was due to the incessant revolt of Judaists against the Roman authority.
So how possible is it that the same Judaists will practice the same faith in Rome peacefully?

Ọmọ if you're mumu it's not everyone that is mumu o! smiley
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