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Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 2:42pm On Nov 04, 2023
Still on godfatherism, Oshiomole was a powerful chairman of the ruiling APC, he was such a fearsome force to reckon with, some revered him, some feared him including the opposition PDP. He put down his feet against the dark forces within the APC, flushed them down the tunnel back into PDP. With sheer determination and vigour, Oshiomole was able to record the most remarkable success of the party, retaining all his party's Governorship seats and winning more from the opposition, APC had a very large majority in the NASS and to top it all, he returned Buhari easily even after the likes of Atiku, Saraki, Tambuwal, Dogara and their footsoldiers were thrown out.
It all started off smoothly when Oshiomole had Obaseki screen out of the primaries, Obaseki became like an orphan who eventually found comfort at the waiting arms of Wike. Then thunder struck when a high court in Abuja ruled that Oshiomole had been legally sacked as a party member by his ward, the ruiling was eventually upheld by an Appeal court.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 2:42pm On Nov 04, 2023
Following his sack, some APC Governors and party chieftains were boasting of getting rid of him. The cabals within the party had their pound of flesh. APC led by Buhari would later dissolve the NWC loyal to Oshiomole and Buni appointed the caretaker chairman. Things went on a downward spiral from there, Oshiomole became a fish out of water, he retired back home an empty man, even his great ally the Jagaban could do nothing to help at the time. The intention of the cabal was clear, Jagaban himself was the primary target, stop Oshiomole, stop Jagaban.
Without the federal might, without the support of the party cabals, Oshiomole could not move a muscle against Obaseki and Wike. i strongly believe if Oshiomole still had control at the center like Wike currently enjoying, Obaseki would have failed.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 3:13pm On Nov 04, 2023
It is a statement of fact that Oshiomole as chairman would have ended Obaseki's political career and would have destroyed PDP combined. Fubara sacked Wike's boy as CSO, he has been appointed a more powerful position than a CSO. With the recent appointment of Wike's boys as commanders of key security architecture of Rivers state, Wike is gaining more, Fubara losing more.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 3:24pm On Nov 04, 2023
If Oshiomole was on seat, Wike would never have strolled into Edo the way he did. Oshiomole would have grounded his flight and chased him back to Rivers, he would not have move past the airport. Oshiomole would have written Obaseki's votes.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 3:37pm On Nov 04, 2023
For those saying Fubara should learn from Obaseki, the scenerio is quite different, Wike has federal backing, Oshiomole did not.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by tinsel: 3:39pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:
It is a statement of fact that Oshiomole as chairman would have ended Obaseki's political career and would have destroyed PDP combined. Fubara sacked Wike's boy as CSO, he has been appointed a more powerful position than a CSO. With the recent appointment of Wike's boys as commanders of key security architecture of Rivers state, Wike is gaining more, Fubara losing more.
You also forgot to point out that Wike's former adviser is now Rivers State Electoral Commission chairman.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by mrvitalis(m): 3:40pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:
For those saying Fubara should learn from Obaseki, the scenerio is quite different, Wike has federal backing, Oshiomole did not.
no governor has fought this fight and lost relax
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 3:46pm On Nov 04, 2023
tinsel:

You also forgot to point out that Wike's former adviser is now Rivers State Electoral Commission chairman.
Wow!, i didn't even know this. SIM has seen all the handwriting on the wall that's why he came out to beg for forgiveness.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 3:48pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:
no governor has fought this fight and lost relax
Show me one godfather with federal might that lost to his stooge.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by mrvitalis(m): 3:51pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:

Show me one godfather with federal might that lost to his stooge.
Name one that didn't?
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 4:03pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:
Name one that didn't?
There is none. No godfather with federal might lost to his stooge.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by kettykin: 4:05pm On Nov 04, 2023
Nigeria is gradually going the path of no return

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by mrvitalis(m): 4:08pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:

There is none. No godfather with federal might lost to his stooge.
Name one governor that lost a fight to his godfather outside the coward ambode

I dare you name one
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by 9jatriot(m): 4:15pm On Nov 04, 2023
Ngige. Was he a coward too?

Not being able to use Ambode to get back at Tinubu really pain una well well, hence all the name calling
mrvitalis:

Name one governor that lost a fight to his godfather outside the coward ambode

I dare you name one
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by mrvitalis(m): 4:26pm On Nov 04, 2023
9jatriot:
Ngige. Was he a coward too?

Not being able to use Ambode to get back at Tinubu really pain una well well, hence all the name calling
Nigige was a product of the Godfathers he wasn't removed by them rather obi was the one that removed him and his godfathers

As powerful as the godfathers were they could not impeach nigige go n read about it
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by 9jatriot(m): 4:30pm On Nov 04, 2023
If we go by your argument, then we can also say that Ambode lost the primaries of his party and not that any godfather removed him.

I don't need to read about Ngige, I de around when e de happen. Ngige that his convoy had to clear the road for the convoy of the Ubahs' to pass. PO winning was about his Nigege's godfathers getting back at him not that Obi offered anything special at the tribunal.

mrvitalis:

Nigige was a product of the Godfathers he wasn't removed by them rather obi was the one that removed him and his godfathers

As powerful as the godfathers were they could not impeach nigige go n read about it

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 4:32pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:

Name one governor that lost a fight to his godfather outside the coward ambode

I dare you name one
You just beating about the bush with silly antics. Until you can tell me how a godfather with federal might lost out.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by 9jatriot(m): 4:37pm On Nov 04, 2023
LAMIDI ADEDEBU also helped to remove RASHEED LADOJA as governor of Oyo state. Another case in history.

But I get your point you are making about Rivers situation but Rivers needs peace not anarchy.
mrvitalis:

Name one governor that lost a fight to his godfather outside the coward ambode

I dare you name one

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 4:37pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:

Nigige was a product of the Godfathers he wasn't removed by them rather obi was the one that removed him and his godfathers

As powerful as the godfathers were they could not impeach nigige go n read about it
Nonsense. Ngige had already fell apart with his godfathers who were close allys to OBJ. Ngige was doomed already, his godfathers made sure he lost. Obi became Governor because Ngige dared his godfathers with federal might.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 4:42pm On Nov 04, 2023
9jatriot:
If we go by your argument, then we can also say that Ambode lost the primaries of his party and not that any godfather removed him.

I don't need to read about Ngige, I de around when e de happen. Ngige that his convoy had to clear the road for the convoy of the Ubahs' to pass. PO winning was about his Nigege's godfathers getting back at him not that Obi offered anything special at the tribunal.

That guy needs a political lesson. Ngige that was tortured and chased out of PDP and was rescued by Tinubu.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by NotProphet: 4:49pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:

There is none. No godfather with federal might lost to his stooge.
U are still a child
Politics is local and all about interest
Obaseki didn't win 2016 Edo governorship election
He was rigged in by Oshiomole using both state and federal apparatus. Edo people were juat waiting for an opportunity to deal with Oshiomole

Secondly. Obaseki is a Benin man and oshiomole is Auchi. U dare not fight a Benin man that have the backing of the people

Thirdly, the person oshiomole brought out to contest with obaseki was the same that contested with obaseki four years back when Oshiomole mouth was licking and calling the man all sort of names. Thief, arm robber, the reason Edo is backyard etc He said he can never entrust Edo resource to such a man that he will steal everything. 4yrs later na the same he say make we vote for🤣🤣
Edo people nor foolish na

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 5:01pm On Nov 04, 2023
@ NotProphet, you just open mouth, no sense. Oshiomole won under ACN, Edo loved Oshiomole to bits, the best Governor of Edo till date. He picked Obaseki from the gutter and installed him easy. Edo were already tired of PDP and no way PDP would have won. That your benin man na God save am as Oshimole don already commot as chairman, you for dey console am in his father's house.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by MyMouth(m): 5:07pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:

Name one governor that lost a fight to his godfather outside the coward ambode

I dare you name one
Late Senator Mantu with Obasanjo's backing had Governor Dariya removed.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by mrvitalis(m): 5:26pm On Nov 04, 2023
9jatriot:
LAMIDI ADEDEBU also helped to remove RASHEED LADOJA as governor of Oyo state. Another case in history.

But I get your point you are making about Rivers situation but Rivers needs peace not anarchy.
We are talking people you are talking about yorubas
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by vowiski(m): 5:48pm On Nov 04, 2023
Be like this one doesn’t know Edo people…

I haven’t seen any tribe that you can dare and go Scott free..

When Edo people carry matter for head , forget it… Just give up

Na today Edos start to see Federal might ?

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by 9jatriot(m): 6:03pm On Nov 04, 2023
Jeez, did you just say this.

Ngige is Yoruba abi?

mrvitalis:

We are talking people you are talking about yorubas
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 6:23pm On Nov 04, 2023
vowiski:
Be like this one doesn’t know Edo people…
I haven’t seen any tribe that you can dare and go Scott free..
When Edo people carry matter for head , forget it… Just give up
Na today Edos start to see Federal might ?
Empty noise, dem for no commot Oshiomole as chairman make Obaseki for cry blood.
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Svoboda(m): 7:06pm On Nov 04, 2023
Pakute:
For those saying Fubara should learn from Obaseki, the scenerio is quite different, Wike has federal backing, Oshiomole did not.

All those who betrayed oshiomhole in apc are regretting it till today. Oshiomhole epitomized the true charismatic national party chairman of the 2nd republic who was even more powerful than the president in party affairs and they made party politics exciting.

These days we have lameduck, uninspiring party chairmen, who can even sell their parties for paltries.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by baaliyah(m): 9:55pm On Nov 04, 2023
mrvitalis:

We are talking people you are talking about yorubas

Oponu
Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Kukutente23: 10:28pm On Nov 04, 2023
First of all, the Op is a dummy. He's dull. I'll prove it as I've always done.

But first to clear his lies.

Oshiomole actually lost more gov seats in 2019 elections as opposed to the lie that he won more states. He lost zamfara even before elections started. He lost Bauchi. He lost Oyo and even Imo untill the SC came with their abracadabra.

Second lie is claiming APC govs removed Oshiomole. Oshiomole was removed by Obaseki who got his ward executives to suspend him and then got a member of APC in Abuja to institute a case asking for Oshiomole's removal as chairman.

So contrary to his lie, Oshiomole the godfather was brought down by Obaseki the godson. Based on that, imagine fubara getting Wike suspended from PDP at ward level. How exactly do you think it will look on Wike?

Now to the dullness of the Op.
It is funny that Op thinks Wike as federal minister has more federal power than the ruling party chairman. Wike was even shocked at the bad press and reception he got following the impeachment threat. Wike's only saving grace presently is two things. Tinubu factor and Sim's political naivety.

Sim is mellowing down because he realised Tinubu has interest in the status quo being maintained in Rivers. We all know the role Wike played in decimating PDP and Tinubu needs things to remain that way for 2027. If Fubara tries to push too hard in upending Wike, he risks getting into a confrontation with Tinubu which I'm sure he'll want to avoid. That's the only leverage Wike has presently and not any federal power.

Second thing is, Sim obviously believes that as long as Tinubu has intervened, nothing will come out of the impeachment threat. That's why he seems to have mellowed. If he gets a whiff that Wike is still planning something sinister, he will hit the streets again and with the street cred he gathered last time out, he will get the upper hand.

Sim is playing a dangerous waiting game which will cost him in 2027 if things remain as they are. If he does not move fast to clip Wike's wings, he will be Ambode'd at the party primary.

The above two proves all the nonsense the Op wrote are figment of his dull imagination.
He needs to rest.
He knows nothing.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Pakute: 7:08am On Nov 05, 2023
@kukutente23 you came here to display your foolery but i can't change a deformed mind. Okorocha boasted of removing Oshiomole, Google it. If the cabal wanted Oshiomole, the ruiling of the lower court would be set aside.

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Re: Godfatherism; Would Obaseki Have Succeded If Oshiomole Remained As Chairman by Kukutente23: 7:20am On Nov 05, 2023
Pakute:
@kukutente23 you came here to display your foolery but i can't change a deformed mind. Okorocha boasted of removing Oshiomole, Google it. If the cabal wanted Oshiomole, the ruiling of the lower court would be set aside.

Okorocha? grin grin You're extremely dull.
Can you share where he made such ridiculous claim?
Can you explain how he removed Oshiomole? You have shifted from APC govs to Okorocha. That's the problem with liars. They always need to tell another lie for every lie. I hope you're aware Okorocha was a senator not gov when Oshiomole was removed.

Secondly, it's obvious you don't get my point. You claimed godfather with federal power always overcome the godson. Now you're saying cabal one thing. If a godfather has to depend on another source to sustain himself, then he's not a godfather. Tinubu, Kwankwaso, OUK, Ibori all acted as godfather in their respective states without federal backing.

Again, stop displaying your foolishness. A godfather that depends on a cabal somewhere is not a godfather

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