₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
On today’s episode of “APC led FG 4cked us ; APC led FG is trying to un4ck us “….. we should be grateful .

the story of subsidy goes all the way back to IBB if i remember properly.

like Mr Ibu, nigeria is unfortunately at a point where no matter what you do to address subsidy there will be consequences.

It is what it is

joseph1832:
and profiting from it. Perhaps one day when Nairaland is subpoenaed, he will have a rethink...

Imagine saying "every nairaland member is responsible for what they post on Nairaland, then he will go ahead and edit a topic just to make it catchy amd put it on fromt page... Like how tha hell will someone be responsible when their comments has been edited? 🤷‍♀️

He thinks by changing keywords he's protecting the image of nairaland

OasisX:


.....only you late at night and early in the morning dey yawn for wahala. LOL!

no be your babe?

She needs some díck maybe

GloriousGbola:
the story of subsidy goes all the way back to IBB if i remember properly.

like Mr Ibu, nigeria is unfortunately at a point where no matter what you do to address subsidy there will be consequences.

It is what it is

As far I’m concerned Tinubu has only come thru on his words for making a bad situation rotten .

From where I stand Buhari led the country into misery and Tinubu has only continued from where he stopped . How can u promise the people renewed hope and get all u’ve done since ascension to power is continue in serious profligacy in the face of current eceonomic realities ? . The same Tinubu is appointing more ministers than his predecssors, creating more ministries , continued in borrowing to pay for frivolities like luxury vehicles , etc …. all of which are done while the common man has had his income eroded significantly .

How does the government expect the economy to experience increase in productivity when a law abiding citizen like izzou is finding it difficult to cope with cost of transportation amongst other costs to continue to do business?

I undertand the government will always write glossy words on the pages of news bulletin and journals talking about how “we will pull through together in this difficult times “ , but I can tell u that the common man on the street is getting the shorter end of the stick.

.....only you late at night and early in the morning dey yawn for wahala. LOL!

Really? Like, really, you? What wahala?

Incase it escaped your notice sha, I will point it out even though it probably wouldn't matter.

My "wahala" comments were harmless. Very harmless at best. Is it playful ones I was making about being the first one to start a page? Or the one where I addressed a meme post? Or the one pointing out the hypocrisy of men who never take sexual harassment again their own seriously but will be wanting to freeload off of women's 'fake' activism online?

For the record, I did not insult ANYBODY until someone decided to call someone stupid 😊. My comments are there. Go and check it. And maybe 'helders' may be considered an insult in some respect sha, but that one wasn't even directed at a particular person. So other than that, I didn't know it was a crime to respond to anything at anytime of the day now.


Why was I ever even attributing [redacted] to you? No offense, but you should change your moniker to DesertX to truly reflect the state your intellect/head. Mtcheeeewwww. Nor be your fault.


Please, off the road.

Egbere ma fi ejo pawa
Laaro kuutu

GloriousGbola:
The Government is seriously planning on CNG. As I write this I am working on part of the design of the second of over 50 projects converting /upgrading petrol stations to autogas ie supplying lpg and cng for vehicles. Unfortunately these things take time. Design to tender to construction to handover. There is a lot of pressure and it is made worse by bizarre cheaping out by the project sponsor. A single project will probably take 9 months from contract award, if we are lucky.

The other major marketers also have their own plans. A friend had me do a quick mockup of a multi energy retail station.

A company named Greenville rolled out preliminary cng stations as far back as 2013 and seem to now be bringing them online.

We will have to hang in there

I only hope once cng comes on stream we will not see the same weird spike in price that we saw with lpg. Lpg has risen from 6k for 12.5 kg in May to 11k now. And it is not imported but sourced from nlng. At some point the govt may step in.


As for electric cars, electricity is only commercially viable for bikes and keke napep imho

A regular ev will take 8 hours to charge on a normal outlet. On a fast charging outlet 1 hour will require 30kva. 30 minutes in the range of 50kva. Izzou can do the maths. We don't have steady power yet so you are spending on diesel

A 50kva gen brand new and unfked with burns 11 litres per hour. Cost of diesel at 1200 is 13200 to charge the car in 30 minutes. That is the base cost as other costs will be factored in. So a 30 minute charge for a consumer vehicle may come to 20 or 25k or more. Now multiply that for buses. For buses it gets much harder as you have to have a central charging hub and the buses must have enough charge for a working day. And a bus may require 200kva for an hour charge.

Solar power cannot replace conventional fossil fuels. You want solar in your home, you understand immediately that it is a spartan existence. Acs, iron, kettle will immediately hammer your battery life. You keep it simple and stick to lights and electronics and new fridge / freezer. Unless you have DEEP pockets and can invest in expensive solutions. But this can't work commercially. In the places where it is used, there are govt subsidies in place.

Fast charging may be cheaper for smaller vehicles. Keke napep bikes, korope. However the the technology for these is out of China. Oyibos get apple designed in California quality from China. Nigerians on the other hand get designed in cottage industry with collaboration from dodgy hustlers quality. What I like to call showroom warranty. Works fine in the showroom but after that you are oyo.

[color=royalblue]I really do not want to debate on the merits or demerits of subsidy.

Tinubu removed subsidy, then went ahead to borrow $1.2 billion dollars to share as palliatives.
Are you telling me $1.2 billion is not enough to subsidise for a year, while we get this CNG stuff together?

Tinubu won't revover from the mess him put himself in the next 4 years.

I see people arguing dollar on binance and i laugh. Like Emaprince said, the real price of the dollar lies with the Aboki. That is where your importers go to source for dollar; Yes, the aboki without android phone and radio.
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Btw madam koikoi 2nd episode just dropped
Because of this nonsense myth my parents no gree me go boarding school

BlueRayDick:
As far I’m concerned Tinubu has only come thru on his words for making a bad situation rotten .

From where I stand Buhari led the country into misery and Tinubu has only continued from where he stopped . How can u promise the people renewed hope and get all u’ve done since ascension to power is continue in serious profligacy in the face of current eceonomic realities ? . The same Tinubu is appointing more ministers than his predecssors, creating more ministries , continued in borrowing to pay for frivolities like luxury vehicles , etc …. all of which are done while the common man has had his income eroded significantly .

How does the government expect the economy to experience increase in productivity when a law abiding citizen like izzou is finding it difficult to cope with cost of transportation amongst other costs to continue to do business?

I undertand the government will always write glossy words on the pages of news bulletin and journals talking about how “we will pull through together in this difficult times “ , but I can tell u that the common man on the street is getting the shorter hand of the stick.

[color=royalblue]Nigeria will soon break down completely, and this is not me being pessimistic.

We are buying fuel at 620. Imagine what those in Borno are buying it.

At some point, people will not be able to cope because, truly, they can't

EndSARS would be child's play to what is coming[/color]

Afigba ti o pada tee X 🤣🤣🤣

DesertX? Sh!T escalated quickly. Lmao

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nigeria will soon break down completely, and this is not me being pessimistic.

We are buying fuel at 620. Imagine what those in Borno are buying it.

At some point, people will not be able to cope because, truly, they can't

EndSARS would be child's play to what is coming[/color]

Companies are still paying salary
People are still going to work
Transportation is still booming
Until then I don't see any protest taking place anytime soon

Afigba ti o pada tee X 🤣🤣🤣

Because I do not expect you to be 'slying' someone you're chill with like that.

Disagree and banter and all, but that? Absolutely not.

It is a line I don't cross.


As for you, so long as you read my hard-on-giving epistles, I am okay 🤗.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nigeria will soon break down completely, and this is not me being pessimistic.

We are buying fuel at 620. Imagine what those in Borno are buying it.

At some point, people will not be able to cope because, truly, they can't

EndSARS would be child's play to what is coming[/color]

You sure? Be like suffer don master everybody.

655 in PH and everyone is just buying, no protests, no complaints.

But they have time to organise protests in support of Fubara. The foolishness of we Nigerians knows no bounds.

The only effect I'm starting to notice now like someone else mentioned on twitter is, companies are seriously in need of good hands but for obvious reasons, they can't afford to pay what the good hands are requesting for. Eventually they make do with whatever they can find and productivity suffers.

A recruiter recently engaged me for an interview. Asked what my salary expectations are. Told her 1.5 of what I currently earn. That was the last I heard of her.

iamoyindamola:
Companies are still paying salary
People are still going to work
Transportation is still booming
Until then I don't see any protest taking place anytime soon

[color=royalblue]What is the ratio of company workers, to the unemployed, students and small scale sellers?

And you say transportation is booming?

The riskiest business i can think of right now is transportation. Check the price of a Tokunboh vehicle and see how long it will take you to recover your capital.

Let me not even start talking about how much parts are increasing by the week.

A trailer suspension kit was 1,650,000, 3 weeks ago. It is 1,750,000 as at yesterday.

100k increase in 3 weeks[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I really do not want to debate on the merits or demerits of subsidy.

Tinubu removed subsidy, then went ahead to borrow $1.2 billion dollars to share as palliatives.
Are you telling me $1.2 billion is not enough to subsidise for a year, while we get this CNG stuff together?

Tinubu won't revover from the mess him put himself in the next 4 years.

I see people arguing dollar on binance and i laugh. Like Emaprince said, the real price of the dollar lies with the Aboki. That is where your importers go to source for dollar; Yes, the aboki without android phone and radio.
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Not going to talk about dollar, but CNG has been in Nigeria since the 2010s. There is a working CNG system in Benin.

The Greenville guys I spoke about were rolling out stations in 2013/14. I was actually thinking their whole investment was looking like money entering bush.

Sometimes until push comes to shove people will not adopt a technology. Especially as a naija matter.

Itsrm:
You sure? Be like suffer don master everybody.

655 in PH and everyone is just buying, no protests, no complaints.

But they have time to organise protests in support or Fubara. The foolishness of we Nigerians knows no bounds.

[color=royalblue]It will oh.

At some point, this silent majority of poor people wont be able to bear it.

Rice is getting to 60k per bag; this is the commonest food of the poor.

The country go soon catch fire, while Tinubu is busy using compass and protractor to design CNG plant.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Btw madam koikoi 2nd episode just dropped
Because of this nonsense myth my parents no gree me go boarding school

Where can I find it? Since rarbg shut down and that naija site, Nigerian content is getting harder to find esp in 1080p

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
DesertX? Sh!T escalated quickly. Lmao

oasis, will you let this slide?

GloriousGbola:
Not going to talk about dollar, but CNG has been in Nigeria since the 2010s. There is a working CNG system in Benin.

The Greenville guys I spoke about were rolling out stations in 2013/14. I was actually thinking their whole investment was looking like money entering bush.

Sometimes until push comes to shove people will not adopt a technology. Especially as a naija matter.

[color=royalblue]I know CNG has been existing since

I know Greenville.

There is a company called PowerGas at Ikorodu. They sell CNG. I used to supply parts there but i stopped.

What i dont see feasible is how these guys can provide the CNG needs of 50% of the nation.

If you don't know, these guys run out of stock.[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It will oh.

At some point, this silent majority of poor people wont be able to bear it.

Rice is getting to 60k per bag; this is the commonest food of the poor.

The country go soon catch fire, while Tinubu is busy using compass and protractor to design CNG plant.[/color]

Okay na. Make we dey watch.

a womans job is to care for her husband

oasis, will you let this slide?

You know watin you go do? Go Hart Industries abi SACVON or Sunplast go order for plenty fans to come fan the matter. This one you're doing is not enough.

Or rather take it up on his behalf if he allows it slide.



Clown asses.

*Men fight*

: Oh, it's not a big deal. Guys don't take anything to heart, that's why our friendships are real. By the time it's afternoon, they would have made up.

*Man and woman fight*

: See as you've disgraced yourself. Women are yada yada yada. Get your pound of flesh back. Bla bla bla.

I know what you are.

Se bi iwo ni?

I knew you were not fooling no one and could never ignore for a minute.


E never happen?

Dey whine yourself.

GloriousGbola:
a womans job is to care for her husband

that thing doesn't fit into the description

It is a woke internet femisist, so I doubt it will take care of the husband

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I know CNG has been existing since

I know Greenville.

There is a company called PowerGas at Ikorodu. They sell CNG. I used to supply parts there but i stopped.

What i dont see feasible is how these guys can provide the CNG needs of 50% of the nation.

If you don't know, these guys run out of stock.[/color]

i think thats what the whole retail upgrade program is about

increase the stock of CNG available locally.

there are a lot of CNG and LPG marketers out there , but they will not upscale their storage until they see there is actual demand.

seankafor:
that thing doesn't fit into the description

It is a woke internet femisist, so I doubt it will take care of the husband

it is actually a quote from the hero of nigeria Peter Obi the man who prefers small girls barely out of secondary school.

all this hulabaloo is transferring of aggression

moving from denial to anger

it is what it is

Itsrm:
The only effect I'm starting to notice now like someone else mentioned on twitter is, companies are seriously in need of good hands but for obvious reasons, they can't afford to pay what the good hands are requesting for. Eventually they make do with whatever they can find and productivity suffers.

A recruiter recently engaged me for an interview. Asked what my salary expectations are. Told her 1.5 of what I currently earn. That was the last I heard of her.

These are real issues. The whole japa thing is making good roles open for experienced hands but employers don't want to pay as much as they pay the person leaving the system. They want a like-for-like replacement for the openings, but they want their admin costs to miraculously reduce in view of the current economic relaities.

GloriousGbola:
i think thats what the whole retail upgrade program is about

increase the stock of CNG available locally.

there are a lot of CNG and LPG marketers out there , but they will not upscale their storage until they see there is actual demand.

[color=royalblue]There are a lot of LPG marketers because we are in Lagos

What about the core North and South, where you can only see LPG sellers in towns?

This plan is a poorly scripted one, especially when he removed subsidy before putting it in place.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Companies are still paying salary
People are still going to work
Transportation is still booming
Until then I don't see any protest taking place anytime soon

it is difficult everywhere

price of diesel means prices are going up everywhere

also means clienst are either shutting down projects or refusing to upgrade rates to match reality.