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Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by MT: 4:30pm On Nov 13, 2023
Calitoscassius:
It isn't about taking sides.

And you think she is helping the UK to manage immigration by stopping it? Do you know how many years and times immigrations have being used for politics? Since my parents days of migrating to the Uk and that was llke more than 35 years ago.

The Rwandan policy was started by Priti Patel former Home office Minister. The UK courts even ruled that it was illegal to deport asylees to Rwanda, Suella appealed against the ruling, we will hear the appeal courts decision on wednesday, thankfully Sue ella will is not incharge anymore. Suella wanted to take people's human rights away, rights to protest, right to their opinions, she claims homeless people made homelessness a lifestyle choice, she calls muslim people haters of the Jews, the woman was a total bigot.

I say people do not struggle to get a job and no one! Will ever struggle to get a job in the UK unless they do not want to work!

I was born in E17 London UK, Hackney, Walthamstow, Leyton, Letonstone. Chingford and Edmonton are were i grew up, I have lived and work in England since the age of 16, never struggled to get a job my folks also lived in south London areas. Pekham, Camberwell, Elephant and Castle london bridge road, Tower bridge road and SUrrey Quays. grin


Does these sound like hearsay to you?
I don't really know what you found funny in reeling out names of places you could google out on the internet.

I will take it at face value and accept all your claims. So, if you do not know that a black man will need to work twice as the whites to achieve the same level in the western nation, then I do not know what to say to you.

A born black British is at a higher pedestal than immigrant from Africa because of the diction and the fact that he has absorbed the culture from the cradle. With all your claim about being born in the UK, English people will still tell you you can NEVER be an English.

Britain is quaking under uncontrolled immigration which is not good for the citizens and the immigrants.

Immigrants are struggling, especially the low skilled one in the UK.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by FiftyFifty(m): 4:31pm On Nov 13, 2023
Crafteck1:
First ever was a bus attack, take a lucky guess who started it, they keep starting wars, getting defeated then complain about the loss of land
First ever? Lol. Do names like Theodor Herzl, Ben Gurion, Ariel Sharon, and Benjamin Netanyahu sound familiar to you, bro? Do you know that all the Isreali towns were once Palestinian towns before they were sacked and many killed? Could you pls try and read books such as the Uri Avnery's "1948 Soldier", Ilan Pappe's "Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine", Edward Said's "The Question of Palestine", and Daniel Cohen's "The Denial of Truth", among many others? All the authors were Jewish except Edward. You would then understand who truly started this terrorism.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Calitoscassius(m): 4:36pm On Nov 13, 2023
MT:
I don't really know what you found funny in reeling out names of places you could google out on the internet.

I will take it at face value and accept all your claims. So, if you do not know that a black man will need to work twice as the whites to achieve the same level in the western nation, then I do not know what to say to you.

A born black British is at a higher pedestal than immigrant from Africa because of the diction and the fact that he has absorbed the culture from the cradle.

Britain is quaking under uncontrolled immigration which is not good for the citizens and the immigrants.

Immigrants are struggling, especially the low skilled one in the UK.
Believe what you like. Afterall it wouldn't matter what i say, I would have liked to take your number and call you from my house in London but what da hell?! You would still think i googled it people like you never believe anything is possible.

Good luck!

I am out!
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by MT: 4:38pm On Nov 13, 2023
Calitoscassius:
Believe what you like. Afterall it wouldn't matter what i say, I would have liked to take your number and call you from my house in London but what da hell?! You would still think i googled it people like you never believe anything is possible.

Good luck!

I am out!
I care less if you are in the UK or not.

Whenever you come to public forum to air your view, no one cares about your claim. Just address the subject matter with empirical fact.
Quit bragging about being born in the UK, no one cares about that. It is not anybody's meal ticket.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Calitoscassius(m): 4:46pm On Nov 13, 2023
MT:
I care less if you are in the UK or not.

Whenever you come to public forum to air your view, no one cares about your claim. Just address the subject matter with empirical fact.
Quit bragging about being born in the UK, no one cares about that. It is not anybody's meal ticket.
grin grin grin you said i have never been there, so i gave you proofs which i didn't need to. What is the problem?


Next time you come on public forum dont iie, say what you are sure of you don't know who might be reading it. No one! I repeat, no one! Is struggling to get a job in the UK

Make your mind up, fella! I thought you said i googled it. grin


You bloody liar! grin
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Vision101(m): 4:46pm On Nov 13, 2023
@utime
Maybe a Nigerian minister will be appointed now.

@me
No, a Briton has been appointed. Cleverly. He is the current foreign secretary. Cameron is taking over from him.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by descarado: 4:56pm On Nov 13, 2023
MT:
I don't really know what you found funny in reeling out names of places you could google out on the internet.

I will take it at face value and accept all your claims. So, if you do not know that a black man will need to work twice as the whites to achieve the same level in the western nation, then I do not know what to say to you.

A born black British is at a higher pedestal than immigrant from Africa because of the diction and the fact that he has absorbed the culture from the cradle. With all your claim about being born in the UK, English people will still tell you you can NEVER be an English.

Britain is quaking under uncontrolled immigration which is not good for the citizens and the immigrants.

Immigrants are struggling, especially the low skilled one in the UK.
Where did you kesrn it will take a back man working twice to get to the level of white man?
Who told you that please?
I will love to know
Add stat if necessary
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by MT: 5:20pm On Nov 13, 2023
descarado:
Where did you kesrn it will take a back man working twice to get to the level of white man?
Who told you that please?
I will love to know
Add stat if necessary
I do not need to be told to know what I have witnessed happening first hand.

Even seeing just your names sounding foreign might be the reason you are not invited for that interview.

It is something you have to experience if you have ever lived in a western world. It is an open secret. White folks do not grapple with the same challenges bedevelling black folks in a white man's environment. This can't be argued out.

Let me even give you a quote from one of the write ups from the BBC:

"While 24% of white British applicants received a call back from UK employers, only 15% of ethnic minority applicants did.

Compared to White British applicants, people of:

Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications
Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications
Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications
"

So, holding the same passports as the white folks do not expose you to the same type of privileges. It is an illusion. You can NEVER enjoy the same level of treatment

For the resources you ask for, here are just few, if you have the patience to read:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/08/black-men-need-more-education-to-get-the-same-jobs/375770/

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210707-the-highs-and-lows-of-an-inherited-work-ethic

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-challenges-facing-black-men-and-the-case-for-action/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/everyday-racism-america-black-white-spaces

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by descarado: 5:33pm On Nov 13, 2023
MT:
I do not need to be told to know what I have witnessed happening first hand.

Even seeing just your names sounding foreign might be the reason you are not invited for that interview.

It is something you have to experience if you have ever lived in a western world. It is an open secret. White folks do not grapple with the same challenges bedevelling black folks in a white man's environment. This can't be argued out.

Let me even give you a quote from one of the write ups from the BBC:

"While 24% of white British applicants received a call back from UK employers, only 15% of ethnic minority applicants did.

Compared to White British applicants, people of:

Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications
Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications
Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications
"

So, holding the same passports as the white folks do not expose you to the same type of privileges. It is an illusion. You can NEVER enjoy the same level of treatment

For the resources you ask for, here are just few, if you have the patience to read:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/08/black-men-need-more-education-to-get-the-same-jobs/375770/

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210707-the-highs-and-lows-of-an-inherited-work-ethic

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-challenges-facing-black-men-and-the-case-for-action/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/everyday-racism-america-black-white-spaces

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/
And where do you think I live, my dearest?
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by MT: 5:36pm On Nov 13, 2023
descarado:
And where do you think I live, my dearest?
I think that question is not necessary.

You asked for resources and I gave you more than one.

Let's discuss about the real issue. Where you live is not important.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Crafteck1: 5:37pm On Nov 13, 2023
FiftyFifty:
First ever? Lol. Do names like Theodor Herzl, Ben Gurion, Ariel Sharon, and Benjamin Netanyahu sound familiar to you, bro? Do you know that all the Isreali towns were once Palestinian towns before they were sacked and many killed? Could you pls try and read books such as the Uri Avnery's "1948 Soldier", Ilan Pappe's "Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine", Edward Said's "The Question of Palestine", and Daniel Cohen's "The Denial of Truth", among many others? All the authors were Jewish except Edward. You would then understand who truly started this terrorism.
Correct me if im wrong but all you mentioned are wars started by arabs against jew which they lost each time and ended up losing land.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by beardedboy(m): 5:44pm On Nov 13, 2023
kingthreat:
Hope you will support a Ghanaian man to be head of your hometown someday.
If he has lived long to understand the nuances of our hometown and has the technical and intellectual capacity, why not?!
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by descarado: 6:05pm On Nov 13, 2023
MT:
I think that question is not necessary.

You asked for resources and I gave you more than one.

Let's discuss about the real issue. Where you live is not important.
You resources is as accurate as it can be bearing in mind the population % of such people in the UK.

Breaking it down,
In the same uk, Arabs, like working with their people. And they are good as taxi drivers.
HR who interviewed an Arab, Nigerian, brit, Indian etc for a care job will consider Arab last and pick a brit first then Nigerian. So the Nigerian is most likely to get a call back while an Arab will be the last will not.
The same with drs, Indians will get that call back more than brit.

Can you see how that stat is determined?

Then population counts. The indigenous people with the highest population will always score highest.
Until immigrants become higher in number, the stat is what it should be having these indices I raised in mind.

Second generation Indian immigrants have broken the boundaries to venture into politics, what an average black don't dream of because they don't know how to lay the foundation for their kids to attain that cos of our obnoxious lifestyles.
East and Southern Africans are laying the foundation for their kids, something an average Nigerian in uk is yet to think of and when that start yielding results,we will still be the ones to shout marginalisation and discrimination.


Am I still talking like an outsider?

When you are in the system, you will understand better.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by YoshihideSuga: 6:27pm On Nov 13, 2023
frog12:
look, the west exposed themselves as palestine hater. they sent weapons being used to bomb palestine children. she is a scapegoat
The West isn't obligated to love Palestinians. Also, Hamas started everything by brutally slaughtering more than 1,400 Israelis.

Next time, don't go looking for trouble.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Nobody: 6:36pm On Nov 13, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The right to protest against government policy is one of the basic features of democracy. Telling the police to go hard on peaceful pro-Palestinian protesters in London is undemocratic.
Defending the Israeli government doesn't mean you should preach hate speech against the Palestinian people & trample on their fundamental human rights.


Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Headslamer sighted.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by ollins(m): 6:44pm On Nov 13, 2023
Have you noticed that children of immigrants always don't like immigrants.
Many children of immigrants especially from Africa who grow up to hold very important political postions in the countries where they are born are always in the fore front of supporting policies against asylum seekers and they always advocate tough immigration laws.
I believe it's largely due to how the first generation immigrants brought up their kids.
I know for example that most Nigeria communities in Europe and America don't like each other and they teach their children at home this same attitude and these kids grow up with such mentality.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by amnesty7: 6:59pm On Nov 13, 2023
regenerateman:
Becareful of what you say on this platform.
A Zionists' dog spotted.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by kabillionaire(m): 7:28pm On Nov 13, 2023
Righteousness2:
British political drama:
Suala Braverman is probably dismissed for her tweet .

A few days ago she published an unauthorized article in the Times in which she accused the police of showing leniency towards the pro-Palestinian demonstrators due to the permission to hold the huge demonstration at the same time as the Memorial Day events on Saturday.

UK looks like a people playing pinpong with fire.
The Bible says will a man put his hands in fire and not be burnt?

Britain then and now - a cartoon published in Quora magazine
If you know you know. If you don't understand forgerrit!
.
huh huh huh
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by kabillionaire(m): 7:30pm On Nov 13, 2023
But, she is right this time
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by IzRayl: 7:36pm On Nov 13, 2023
She's an immigrant also , person wey em parents from Africa but get indian origin...make she get out
MT:
She has always been doing the right thing but the Brits hate her for been an Indian.

UK is an island and she was trying to help manage UK immigration.

The rate at which immigration is going in the UK, even legal paper holders and citizens will struggle to get jobs.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by Tumbuleke: 8:11pm On Nov 13, 2023
The undoing of the west will be in their liberalism and open arms. A fanatic will always be a fanatic.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by FiftyFifty(m): 8:49pm On Nov 13, 2023
Crafteck1:
Correct me if im wrong but all you mentioned are wars started by arabs against jew which they lost each time and ended up losing land.
Lol. I thought you were aware that there was no Israel on the world map before 1948, sadly I'm wrong. If you're oblivious of that how then should I expect you to know that Israel is a stolen land? Ask a Palestinian about the tomb of his 20th grandparent and he will take you there in Palestine. Conversely, ask an Israeli to take you to his immediate grandparent and he will take you to Russia, USA, Poland, or Austria. I hope I've now simplified it to you since your comprehension seem to be far below average.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by erniok(m): 9:22pm On Nov 13, 2023
FiftyFifty:
Zionists did far worst than that. Read history, bro.
People have done terrible things in the past doesn't make ok to do so presently.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by erniok(m): 9:23pm On Nov 13, 2023
FiftyFifty:
Lol. I thought you were aware that there was no Israel on the world map before 1948, sadly I'm wrong. If you're oblivious of that how then should I expect you to know that Israel is a stolen land? Ask a Palestinian about the tomb of his 20th grandparent and he will take you there in Palestine. Conversely, ask an Israeli to take you to his immediate grandparent and he will take you to Russia, USA, Poland, or Austria. I hope I've now simplified it to you since your comprehension seem to be far below average.
So where exactly was Israel during the Roman empire and who lived there.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by baronaaaire: 10:45pm On Nov 13, 2023
kingthreat:
In your village, you fit let Aboki man be Igwe?
Yes I'm not IPOB Bigot or Ronu ooo anarchist
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by MT: 10:55pm On Nov 13, 2023
descarado:
You resources is as accurate as it can be bearing in mind the population % of such people in the UK.

Breaking it down,
In the same uk, Arabs, like working with their people. And they are good as taxi drivers.
HR who interviewed an Arab, Nigerian, brit, Indian etc for a care job will consider Arab last and pick a brit first then Nigerian. So the Nigerian is most likely to get a call back while an Arab will be the last will not.
The same with drs, Indians will get that call back more than brit.

Can you see how that stat is determined?

Then population counts. The indigenous people with the highest population will always score highest.
Until immigrants become higher in number, the stat is what it should be having these indices I raised in mind.

Second generation Indian immigrants have broken the boundaries to venture into politics, what an average black don't dream of because they don't know how to lay the foundation for their kids to attain that cos of our obnoxious lifestyles.
East and Southern Africans are laying the foundation for their kids, something an average Nigerian in uk is yet to think of and when that start yielding results,we will still be the ones to shout marginalisation and discrimination.


Am I still talking like an outsider?

When you are in the system, you will understand better.
You don't need to spin the story to be forcibly correct.

You asked for resources, and I gave you resources from scholarly sources, including the BBC.

Were you claiming to know more than BBC and the other scholarly resources ?

Were you questioning how they arrived at their conclusions?

Get it or not, a black man will work as twice (if not more) than his white counterparts to reach the same pedestals.

You have an absurd sense of humor to state the bolded.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by lexy2014: 11:19pm On Nov 13, 2023
victory36:
Well deserved. She talks too much.
you are right. she spoke the truth too much
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by kingthreat(m): 8:12am On Nov 14, 2023
baronaaaire:
Yes I'm not IPOB Bigot or Ronu ooo anarchist
Ok proof that something like that is going on in your hometown. Mr. liberalist.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by victory36(m): 9:40am On Nov 14, 2023
lexy2014:
you are right. she spoke the truth too much
huh She just talks because she thinks she will be favoured by their Jewish slave Masters in terms of her political career to the detriment of her rishi sunak's government. She is nothing but a crook
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by victory36(m): 9:43am On Nov 14, 2023
Calitoscassius:
No, it does not, however, we are trying to estabilish who is an immigrant or what an immigrant mean. cheesy

And why Mrs Braverman shouldn't be described as an immigrant in the UK.
she is a naturalized immigrant with Indian roots. After all yorubas rejected gbadebo Rhodes viviour because of his Igbo heritage.
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by lexy2014: 9:45am On Nov 14, 2023
victory36:
huh She just talks because she thinks she will be favoured by their Jewish slave Masters in terms of her political career to the detriment of her rishi sunak's government. She is nothing but a crook
how does that negate the fact that she spoke the truth?
Re: UK Interior Minister Suella Braverman Fired! by victory36(m): 9:47am On Nov 14, 2023
lexy2014:
how does that negate the fact that she spoke the truth?
unless propaganda is truth to you
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