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elated177:
Here is the thread, Felimax.

Felimax:
It is not about making excuse for God. Jesus came and practiced as a Jew.

The Ark of the Covenant is not the only statue making instruction found in the Bible.
What about the Bronze Serpent?
What you don't understand

elated177:
Going by your assertions below, I will be drawing some questions from them.




Here is the first one:

1. What did the Ark of the Covenant represent?

Felimax:
Try answer my questions so we take it from there.
The same same person that said Do not bow down to images or worship them also instructed the creation of the Ark of the Covenant where His presence dwells and NOTHING unholy should get close to it.

Is it not the same person that instructed the making of the BRONZE SERPENT for healing?

God does not contradict Himself our level of reasoning is just so poor. Apart from the account of the Ark of the Covenant have you heard anywhere in the Bible of the Cherubims and Seraphims?

elated177:
Felimax, why was Moses instructed by our Father in heaven to build the Ark?

elated177:
Felimax, why was Moses instructed by our Father in heaven to build the Ark?

elated177:
Felimax, are you no longer interested in the convo?

elated177:
Felimax, what ensured the presence of our Father in heaven with Ark of the Covenant?
In other words, what gave the Ark of the Covenant its revered status?

elated177:
Felimax, I belong to the denomination that has the utmost respect and honour for the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty, our Father in heaven, and sees the total and complete and absolute obedience to them as unnegotiable. I belong to the denomination that believes that Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and begotten Son of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God and the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them and the Father of the spirits of all humans, is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments and that obedience to them is obedience to him and, therefore, the only path to Salvation. So, Felimax, do you know of such denomination? Have you heard of such denomination? Does it exist.

You didn't really answer my last question above. You, probably, didn't understand it. We have established that the Ark of the Covenant was revered because of the Presence of our Father in heaven on and with it. Now, I want you to tell us, if you know, why the Presence of our Father in heaven was on and with his Ark of the Covenant. This should be easier to grasp.

elated177:
Felimax, what is funny? Why did you inquire of my denomination?

I have seen all your replies, Felimax.

Who said anything about Catechism?
We are here to learn from each, aren't we?

And I want to know why the Ark of the Covenant bore the presence of God.

I never said that the Ark of the Covenant was God, Felimax.

The Presence of God, our Father in heaven, was actually in that temple. Now you are contradicting yourself, Felimax. First, you said that the presence of God was on and with the Ark of his Covenant and now you are saying a different thing entirely.

The Presence of YHVH Almighty, our Father in heaven, was on and with the Ark of his Covenant and, by that fact, in that temple. #Fact.

So, the Ark of the Covenant didn't represent his presence. If I am wrong, enlighten me otherwise. After all, we are here to learn.

I am beginning to think that you are deliberately evading my question. Here it is again, Felimax. Why was the presence of God on and with the Ark of his Covenant? You do know that his Presence here means his Spirit, right?

Felimax:
They worship in the temple as though the presence of God is there. What is that item that represents God's presence? The Ark of the Covenant.

Felimax:
If it houses or possess the presence of God then that is pure idolatry and no one can convince me otherwise because that is what it is.

elated177:
See where you contradicted yourself.



Are you saying that the presence of God was not in that temple?





Let me ask, at this juncture, what is the Ark of the Covenant?

elated177:
I am sure you have seen where you contradicted yourself. I know what contradiction means, Felimax.

I never said that the Ark of the Covenant was God.

It is actually simple to understand, Felimax, why was the Presence of YHVH Almighty, God Almighty, with the Ark of his Covenant? This is what I have been trying to get from you. If you do not know the answer to the question, just say so and we will move on to the next phase of the discourse, that is, after I have told you the reason, of course.

The Israelites didn't worship the Ark of the Covenant, of course. I never said anything contrary to that. We know that they revered it. Why? One might say that it is because the Presence of YHVH Almighty, God Almighty, our Father in heaven, was on and with it. Why? Why was the Presence of God Almighty with it?

elated177:
If you don't know why the Presence of YHVH Almighty was on and with the Ark of his Covenant, how did you know that his Presence was on and with it at all? Actually, it should be of your concern, Felimax. It is not one of those hidden mysteries of the Scriptures that require deep insight. It is actually simple and plain for any interested seeker to see and grasp. You should desire to know, if truly you are a seeker of the truth of the Scriptures.

How could you describe or classify the Ark of the Covenant as anything when you don't even know why the Presence of YHVH Almighty was on and with it, or if the Presence of YHVH Almighty was on and with it at all? Since you have introduced this into the discourse, even if I was not really going to that direction, let me ask: within the context of the Scriptures, what is an idol and what is idolatry?

Let us finish with this phase of the discourse.
Your assertions, Felimax, are the reasons for this thread and why this discussion is taking place. I was expecting you to give me a proper tutoring on them. b
However, you have failed to do so.

There are certain parameters that must be ascertained before the issue of right or wrong can be asserted, Felimax. You have been evasive.

Unlike you, Felimax, I, Elated177, am a preacher of the truth of YHVH Almighty, our Father in heaven. I actually care about the souls of others. However, it is entirely their prerogative to choose eternal life in the Kingdom of our Father in heaven or eternal damnation in the lake of fire. So, you see, sharing and preaching the truth without fear or favour are of top priority, Felimax. You shouldn't have mentioned the Ark of the Covenant and the bronze snake if they weren't your business. The mere fact that you did shows that they are your business.

I have shown you where you contradicted yourself, Felimax.