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Re: The Japa After The Japa by oluwasunkanmi97(m):
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Re: The Japa After The Japa by apogyizi(f): 12:35pm On Nov 17, 2023
zichien:
It is multifactorial. Generally the older you are at the time of "japa", the harder it is to adjust.
1) It can be socially isolating. At work you have to adjust to the accents, and cant even laugh anyhow, and will just be tensed up... you finish work and come home and wont see anyone to talk t.. you go to church the same thing. Unless you find a Nigerian church.
2) The weather: It can be cold, and annoying, and will make you want to stay in doors and not come out
3) Lack of sunlight. Honestly there is something about seeing the sun that gives one joy. If youve lived in a country like Nigeria with beautiful weather, and correct sunlight, and you are now transported to a place with gloomy depressing weather, ah your brain sef will be doing some how
4) Bills. You've migrated with all the expectations. Your people sent you forth at the airport. They told you job full everywhere, money is everywhere. You work .. and by work I mean you put in those long hard hours ..and are paid your first pay check and see how much is deducted as tax. and how much finally ends up in your account. In Nigeria you are used to surviving on your paycheck + bribe+ plus urgent 1k. You can owe Iya Basira, and owe your landlord, and sort electricity. Now here you are surviving on paycheck alone which is "Salary-(taxes-monthly rent-monthly phone bill-monthly gas/water bill-monthly deduction to send home-monthly deduction for car insurance). What is left off is then saved. And then there is the pressure because you are seeing the ones that are carrying" you know what" flaunting on instagram,and making you look like an idiot, and lazy... and you begin to wonder wether it is not the same Japa,or God that you are serving.
5) When you were in Nigeria, you had an excuse for not succeeding. You could blame Jonathan, Or Buhari, or Tinubu or ipob. Now you are here, and have arrived... and typical oyibo expects one to take accountability for their actions. The buck stops on you. No one to blame for your lack of progress but yourself.. so some folks fall into depression because a sheep in Nigeria is still a sheep in Canada, Uk etc. Someone that used an agent to sort through university, used an agent to find them a school abroad, an agent to apply for their visa, has now come to a setting where you have to DIY. No agent will tell you how to apply for that extra certificate that will help you advance your career, no agent will tell you how to create a strategic long term plan such that in 10years you will be at the top of your career, no agent will tell you what classes to choose to develop the skill sets that are highly sought after. So someone who has always lacked the self efficacy, and accountability, someone who doesnt know how to take ownership, and blames others eg " my mother is a witch", "my village people did me" " they sent me poison"... will struggle badly, and can fall into depression.

This isnt all... but just a few random thoughts

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Who said they don't see sunshine/ the sun in the West, but gloomy clouds?? That's totally false!
Re: The Japa After The Japa by zichien: 7:24pm On Nov 20, 2023
Right.. i made a sweeping generalization. Depending on what continent of "the abroad you are in". But on average tropical countries of which Nigeria is one of-- see more sunshine than say a European country like UK where the sunshine can be obscured by clouds. You get the general idea of my gist. Hopefully thats the only error found in my argument.
apogyizi:
Who said they don't see sunshine/ the sun in the West, but gloomy clouds?? That's totally false!
Re: The Japa After The Japa by maestro299: 8:16pm On Nov 20, 2023
zichien:
It is multifactorial. Generally the older you are at the time of "japa", the harder it is to adjust.
1) It can be socially isolating. At work you have to adjust to the accents, and cant even laugh anyhow, and will just be tensed up... you finish work and come home and wont see anyone to talk t.. you go to church the same thing. Unless you find a Nigerian church.
2) The weather: It can be cold, and annoying, and will make you want to stay in doors and not come out
3) Lack of sunlight. Honestly there is something about seeing the sun that gives one joy. If youve lived in a country like Nigeria with beautiful weather, and correct sunlight, and you are now transported to a place with gloomy depressing weather, ah your brain sef will be doing some how
4) Bills. You've migrated with all the expectations. Your people sent you forth at the airport. They told you job full everywhere, money is everywhere. You work .. and by work I mean you put in those long hard hours ..and are paid your first pay check and see how much is deducted as tax. and how much finally ends up in your account. In Nigeria you are used to surviving on your paycheck + bribe+ plus urgent 1k. You can owe Iya Basira, and owe your landlord, and sort electricity. Now here you are surviving on paycheck alone which is "Salary-(taxes-monthly rent-monthly phone bill-monthly gas/water bill-monthly deduction to send home-monthly deduction for car insurance). What is left off is then saved. And then there is the pressure because you are seeing the ones that are carrying" you know what" flaunting on instagram,and making you look like an idiot, and lazy... and you begin to wonder wether it is not the same Japa,or God that you are serving.
5) When you were in Nigeria, you had an excuse for not succeeding. You could blame Jonathan, Or Buhari, or Tinubu or ipob. Now you are here, and have arrived... and typical oyibo expects one to take accountability for their actions. The buck stops on you. No one to blame for your lack of progress but yourself.. so some folks fall into depression because a sheep in Nigeria is still a sheep in Canada, Uk etc. Someone that used an agent to sort through university, used an agent to find them a school abroad, an agent to apply for their visa, has now come to a setting where you have to DIY. No agent will tell you how to apply for that extra certificate that will help you advance your career, no agent will tell you how to create a strategic long term plan such that in 10years you will be at the top of your career, no agent will tell you what classes to choose to develop the skill sets that are highly sought after. So someone who has always lacked the self efficacy, and accountability, someone who doesnt know how to take ownership, and blames others eg " my mother is a witch", "my village people did me" " they sent me poison"... will struggle badly, and can fall into depression.

This isnt all... but just a few random thoughts

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grin
Re: The Japa After The Japa by apogyizi(f): 4:46pm On Nov 21, 2023
zichien:
Right.. i made a sweeping generalization. Depending on what continent of "the abroad you are in". But on average tropical countries of which Nigeria is one of-- see more sunshine than say a European country like UK where the sunshine can be obscured by clouds. You get the general idea of my gist. Hopefully thats the only error found in my argument.
Something like that.
Re: The Japa After The Japa by sukkot(op): 1:03am On Nov 23, 2023
zichien:
It is multifactorial. Generally the older you are at the time of "japa", the harder it is to adjust.
1) It can be socially isolating. At work you have to adjust to the accents, and cant even laugh anyhow, and will just be tensed up... you finish work and come home and wont see anyone to talk t.. you go to church the same thing. Unless you find a Nigerian church.
2) The weather: It can be cold, and annoying, and will make you want to stay in doors and not come out
3) Lack of sunlight. Honestly there is something about seeing the sun that gives one joy. If youve lived in a country like Nigeria with beautiful weather, and correct sunlight, and you are now transported to a place with gloomy depressing weather, ah your brain sef will be doing some how
4) Bills. You've migrated with all the expectations. Your people sent you forth at the airport. They told you job full everywhere, money is everywhere. You work .. and by work I mean you put in those long hard hours ..and are paid your first pay check and see how much is deducted as tax. and how much finally ends up in your account. In Nigeria you are used to surviving on your paycheck + bribe+ plus urgent 1k. You can owe Iya Basira, and owe your landlord, and sort electricity. Now here you are surviving on paycheck alone which is "Salary-(taxes-monthly rent-monthly phone bill-monthly gas/water bill-monthly deduction to send home-monthly deduction for car insurance). What is left off is then saved. And then there is the pressure because you are seeing the ones that are carrying" you know what" flaunting on instagram,and making you look like an idiot, and lazy... and you begin to wonder wether it is not the same Japa,or God that you are serving.
5) When you were in Nigeria, you had an excuse for not succeeding. You could blame Jonathan, Or Buhari, or Tinubu or ipob. Now you are here, and have arrived... and typical oyibo expects one to take accountability for their actions. The buck stops on you. No one to blame for your lack of progress but yourself.. so some folks fall into depression because a sheep in Nigeria is still a sheep in Canada, Uk etc. Someone that used an agent to sort through university, used an agent to find them a school abroad, an agent to apply for their visa, has now come to a setting where you have to DIY. No agent will tell you how to apply for that extra certificate that will help you advance your career, no agent will tell you how to create a strategic long term plan such that in 10years you will be at the top of your career, no agent will tell you what classes to choose to develop the skill sets that are highly sought after. So someone who has always lacked the self efficacy, and accountability, someone who doesnt know how to take ownership, and blames others eg " my mother is a witch", "my village people did me" " they sent me poison"... will struggle badly, and can fall into depression.

This isnt all... but just a few random thoughts

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brilliant
Re: The Japa After The Japa by Mcslize: 1:38am On Nov 23, 2023
Mindlog:
Nah, recruiters from hospitals in Kuwait will be in Birmingham (UK) tomorrow alongside those from Australia to dangle more paying healthcare jobs to those registered professionals in the UK especially Kuwait with Arab oil money, if na you, shey u no go consider am? cheesy cheesy cheesy

Update: I just came out from the job fair centre here in Birmingham, one of the island state of Australia is dangling better paying jobs, offering Permanent Residency before arriving Australia and after 2 years of arrival, Australian citizenship. cheesy cheesy
Nothing like that. That 2 yrs you mentioned is a job sponsorship visa 482. After 2 years before they will qualify for PR. Australia doesn't give citizenship within 2 yrs.

One must stay for 4 yrs before qualifying for citizenship not 2 years. And if one has been in Australia for 3 yrs and above under a different visa and later get PR, the person will then stay 1 year as PR to qualify for citizenship.

I hope I have been able to infuse in you and not confuse you with my simple explanation.
Re: The Japa After The Japa by 1TrippleCee: 6:54pm On Dec 12, 2023
Inner19:
May God deliver Nigerians from the numerous Herod's of our country Egypt Nigeria so that these individuals can have peace and stop moving from one country to the other like fugitives when they have a home somewhere.
grin
Re: The Japa After The Japa by oluwasunkanmi97(m): 3:53pm On Dec 13, 2023
sukkot:
brother let me get back to you on this.
Boss, good afternoon, you said you would get back to me regarding this.

oluwasunkanmi97:
Wow. Welldone sir.
Sir, can you please read this date

28-09-02
Male
University undergraduate studying Accounting. He doesn't have any thing he likes doing in his spare time, like a hobby. He is neat and sometimes quiet and wants to be alone.
Re: The Japa After The Japa by sukkot(op): 3:57pm On Dec 13, 2023
oluwasunkanmi97:
Boss, good afternoon, you said you would get back to me.
Oh yeah i did Chief. my bad. can you be patient till tonight ? i promise
Re: The Japa After The Japa by oluwasunkanmi97(m): 3:58pm On Dec 13, 2023
sukkot:
Oh yeah i did Chief. my bad. can you be patient till tonight ? i promise
No problem boss.
Re: The Japa After The Japa by oluwasunkanmi97(m): 1:01am On Dec 14, 2023
sukkot:
Oh yeah i did Chief. my bad. can you be patient till tonight ? i promise
Good evening boss smiley
Re: The Japa After The Japa by sukkot(op): 3:47am On Dec 14, 2023
oluwasunkanmi97:
Good evening boss smiley
yeah what's the details and how is the persons life looking like ? What's the date of birth
Re: The Japa After The Japa by oluwasunkanmi97(m):
sukkot:
yeah what's the details and how is the persons life looking like ? What's the date of birth
Okay. 28th September, 2002.
Male. Undergraduate, he is studying Accounting. He is neat, organised, quiet, reserved and sometimes loves to be alone.
Re: The Japa After The Japa by sukkot(op): 8:43am On Dec 14, 2023
oluwasunkanmi97:
Okay. 28th September, 2002.
Male. Undergraduate, he is studying Accounting. He is neat, organised, quiet, reserved and sometimes loves to be alone.
The issue is that whenever he is asked what he likes doing, he says he doesn't know, that he doesn't have a hobby or passion for anything.
I don't know if that is possible.
alright Chief so it's important to know that this is just the operating system controlling you. Doesn't mean you will not be successful in life but ermm here we go so it's solar libra meaning you are detached from your higher authority meaning in this reincarnation you would not be living to your highest potential because you are detached from your highest potential . It's Luna cancer to Leo meaning you are somewhat of a destroyed entity that is under spiritual bondage. You are in a period of spiritual abandonment. Like a desert. So it makes perfect sense why you have no passion or hobby .

All these are programmed like this because of past life actions . Doesn't mean you will not make it but this is the operating system you are working with
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