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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 5:14pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Ramsdale fought for us and was part of the squad that led us back to UCL
Guess what he doesn't have any appearance in UCL I am sure he would have dreamt of playing that competition but arteta haven't given him the chance
Exactly !

Our fans are talking as if we just found ourselves in the UCL without Ramsdale being a huge part of that journey . We do as if Ramsdale was not the one that saved us in some critical matches ; because the coach got a new keeper they feel Ramsdale should just be treated like trash .

At least let him have a taste of champions league football.

I’m a big stan of Arteta , but he no try for this one at all.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 7:54pm On Nov 26, 2023
Lush100:
Oga every coach have their favorite.

But i don't think Arteta is bad biased.

Even Harvetz that he liked after sometime he started benching him and Harvetz have been coming from the bench until we had issue with injury (g. Jesus and Odegard).

Ramdale was supposed to use this opportunity to show he was better.
Pls stop pampering someone collecting 100k per week.
I am not denying that the replacing him with Raya would not have effect but he was suppose to show his mental strength.
Even Ramsdale was brought in to replace Bernd Leno who was also a good shot stopper. It was his performance that made him upsurp Leno.
Ramdale started from too.

If Ramsdale is looking to take over he should prove it on the pitch.
Arteta has been benching Harvetz of late.
Pls lets stop this.
We suppose to ask Ramsdale to step up.
If he keeps on being good he gas a better chance. Raya is on loan.
Arteta is right then
Thank you. I'm sure 90% of Arsenal fans wanted Ramsdale to put up a convincing performance yesterday to at least show Arteta was wrong to bench him but he fumbled. Imagine Brentford had scored from one of his giveaways and we went on to lose the game, none of these pity talks would have sufficed.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 7:55pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Ramsdale fought for us and was part of the squad that led us back to UCL
Guess what he doesn't have any appearance in UCL I am sure he would have dreamt of playing that competition but arteta haven't given him the chance
I'm sorry to say this but only a club without vision would pick a team based on this criterion.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 7:57pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
I'm sorry to say this but only a club without vision would pick a team based on this criterion.
So that mean arteta should have been sacked for bottling top4 and the league last season
Do you agree?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by IZUKWU(m): 8:25pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
So that mean arteta should have been sacked for bottling top4 and the league last season
Do you agree?
He finished 8th
He finished 5th
He finished 2nd.
Continuous improvements
Great coaches are always improving themselves and their teams
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:35pm On Nov 26, 2023
IZUKWU:
He finished 8th
He finished 5th
He finished 2nd.
Continuous improvements
Great coaches are always improving themselves and their teams
Ramsdale first season he had 12 cs
His second he had 14 cs
This is someone his team always relegate
Great keepers are always improving themselves and their defense

Any question?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:36pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
So that mean arteta should have been sacked for bottling top4 and the league last season
Do you agree?
And how does both correlate?


To answer your question, he had a plan which the management is aware of. Looking at the trajectory, everything is working according to his plan. So why sack him?



I will ask again, how does both relate?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:37pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
And how does both correlate?


To answer your question, he had a plan which the management is aware of. Looking at the trajectory, everything is working according to his plan. So why sack him?



I will ask again, how does both relate?
What doesn’t correlate with a serial bottler
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 8:37pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Ramsdale first season he had 12 cs
His second he had 14 cs
This is someone his team always relegate
Great keepers are always improving themselves and their defense

Any question?
grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:38pm On Nov 26, 2023
IZUKWU:
He finished 8th
He finished 5th
He finished 2nd.
Continuous improvements
Great coaches are always improving themselves and their teams
To think I already replied him before seeing your post. You're spot on chief.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:39pm On Nov 26, 2023
BlueRayDick:
grin
They want to reward arteta for bottling but punish ramsdale for making mistakes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:39pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Ramsdale first season he had 12 cs
His second he had 14 cs
This is someone his team always relegate
Great keepers are always improving themselves and their defense

Any question?
1. Clean sheet is not conclusive. We got a clean sheet yesterday but the outfield players played a huge role. Zinchenko and Rice had to make a goal line clearance during the match.



2. Does the Ramsdale who played yesterday looked like he is improving?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:40pm On Nov 26, 2023
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:42pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
1. Clean sheet is not conclusive. We got a clean sheet yesterday but the outfield players played a huge role. Zinchenko and Rice had to make a goal line clearance during the match.



2. Does the Ramsdale who played yesterday looked like he is improving?
If cs is not conclusive we should play next game without goalkeeper then


Does arteta look like he’s improved his man management in the team
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:42pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
They want to reward arteta for bottling but punish ramsdale for making mistakes
You're ruling out the fact that Ramsdale's mistake might have logically played a role in the bottling if we really want to delve into the matter.



However, there are lot of reasons we bottled the league which had nothing to do with Ramsdale though.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:43pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
You're ruling out the fact that Ramsdale's mistake might have logically played a role in the bottling if we really want to delve into the matter.



However, there are lot of reasons we bottled the league which had nothing to do with Ramsdale though.
Do you want me to list the mistakes arteta made last season that caused us too?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 8:45pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
They want to reward arteta for bottling but punish ramsdale for making mistakes
Omo ! I laughed really hard seeing ur post .

They are making it seem as if it was not the same Ramsdale that was in goal last season when we qualified for the UCL after many years out.

So Arteta and every other team member aside Xhaka who left are enjoying champions league football but Ramsdale is being left out like an outcast and they think it’s cool . They think any human with blood in his vein will appreciate that kind of treatment ?

If we are talking about mistakes , even Raya the new bride has made mistakes already this season . Who no dey make mistake ?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 8:45pm On Nov 26, 2023
BlueRayDick:
When iamoyindamola said Arteta can be biased with players I noticed Mostob was hassling him asking what he means .

Just look at how Arteta took Havertz to run half of the field after final whistle to make sure he gets the credit for the win after the so many weeks of disappointing performances .
Arteta no even send Ramsdale and his mental health at all despite Ramdale keeping a clean sheet yesterday . Na Havertz be him favorite 🤦‍♂️
I agree with Oyindamola that Arteta can be biased, I just hope he finds a way to balance that position cause Ramsdale needs that support from the manager too.

That Raya is also making the same mistake Ramsdale made last season but cause he’s Arteta preferred choice, his mistakes are overlooked.

Can you imagine the level of confidence that Ramsdale has lost that if not for Odumodu, they’ll have scored that goal.
I feel pity for him sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:47pm On Nov 26, 2023
Shegzdave:
I agree with Oyindamola that Arteta can be biased, I just hope he finds a way to balance that position cause Ramsdale needs that support from the manager too.

That Raya is also making the same mistake Ramsdale made last season but cause he’s Arteta preferred choice, his mistakes are overlooked.

Can you imagine the level of confidence that Ramsdale has lost that if not for Odumodu, they’ll have scored that goal.
I feel pity for him sha
Exactly
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:48pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
If cs is not conclusive we should play next game without goalkeeper then


Does arteta look like he’s improved his man management in the team
1. What are you saying exactly? Told you CS is not conclusive when judging a GK. I even gave you an example. Let's assume Rice and Zinchenko had not cleared the ball yesterday, would Ramsdale be celebrating another clean sheet?




2. All these man management talks na offside abeg. Receipts plenty online. Or you wan tell me say you have never heard/read what the players had to say about the coach.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:49pm On Nov 26, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Omo ! I laughed really hard seeing ur post .

They are making it seem as if it was not the same Ramsdale that was in goal last season when we qualified for the UCL after many years out.

So Arteta and every other team member aside Xhaka who left are enjoying champions league football but Ramsdale is being left out like an outcast and they think it’s cool . They think any human with blood in his vein will appreciate that kind of treatment ?

If we are talking about mistakes , even Raya the new bride has made mistakes already this season . Who no dey make mistake ?
It is not fair at all
Make I no lie I thought ramsdale will be our ucl keeper since he lost his position in the league
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 8:51pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Ramsdale fought for us and was part of the squad that led us back to UCL
Guess what he doesn't have any appearance in UCL I am sure he would have dreamt of playing that competition but arteta haven't given him the chance
This is why Im angry at Arteta, not playing someone that was part of the squad that led the team back to the UCL and someone say they don’t see anything bad in that.

He hasn’t played Ramsdale in the UCL, he’s been playing someone that was brought on loan to unsurp the goalkeeper that made it possible to be back in the UCL.

If Arteta isn’t biased about this, then bias must definitely have another meaning
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 8:51pm On Nov 26, 2023
Shegzdave:
I agree with Oyindamola that Arteta can be biased, I just hope he finds a way to balance that position cause Ramsdale needs that support from the manager too.

That Raya is also making the same mistake Ramsdale made last season but cause he’s Arteta preferred choice, his mistakes are overlooked.

Can you imagine the level of confidence that Ramsdale has lost that if not for Odumodu, they’ll have scored that goal.
I feel pity for him sha
It’s because Raya is the new bride that’s why we are over amplifying Ramsdale’s errors .

Last season Gabriel made errors , Saliba made errors , Partey made errors, even Saka lost vital penalty . But nobody is calling for their heads or treating them unfairly cos of that. For all we know they were a part of a great team that did well.

As at the end of last season the major additions I thought was necessary was a DM , a deputy for Saka , another striker and lastly a deputy for Ramsdale .

How it now turned out that we brought a new keeper and almost immediately relegate Ramsdale to the bench ; only Arteta can explain
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:52pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Do you want me to list the mistakes arteta made last season that caused us too?
He might have made plenty of mistakes but his employers are assured he is working according to the plan he gave them, why sack him?



A player confidently said it on live TV that he find it difficult to concentrate for full 90 minutes on the pitch, how do you think that would make you feel as a coach? Let us remove the fact that Raya has always been Arteta's choice way before he signed Ramsdale. That statement from Ramsdale already justified his relegation to the bench.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:54pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
He might have made plenty of mistakes but his employers are assured he is working according to the plan he gave them, why sack him?



A player confidently said it on live TV that he find it difficult to concentrate for full 90 minutes on the pitch, how do you think that would make you feel as a coach? Let us remove the fact that Raya has always been Arteta's choice way before he signed Ramsdale. That statement from Ramsdale already justified his relegation to the bench.
H2h how many mistakes have raya that concentrate for 90minutes conceded this season
Lets compare with ramsdale own last season and this season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:55pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
What doesn’t correlate with a serial bottler
Omo.. I can't help you at this stage.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:55pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Do you want me to list the mistakes arteta made last season that caused us too?
He might have made plenty of mistakes but his employers are assured he is working according to the plan he gave them, why sack him?



A player confidently said it on live TV that he find it difficult to concentrate for full 90 minutes on the pitch, how do you think that would make you feel as a coach? Let us remove the fact that Raya has always been Arteta's choice way before he signed Ramsdale. That statement from Ramsdale already justified his relegation to the bench.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 8:56pm On Nov 26, 2023
BlueRayDick:
It’s because Raya is the new bride that’s why we are over amplifying Ramsdale’s errors .

Last season Gabriel made errors , Saliba made errors , Partey made errors, even Saka lost vital penalty . But nobody is calling for their heads or treating them unfairly cos of that. For all we know they were a part of a great team that did well.

As at the end of last season the major additions I thought was necessary was a DM , a deputy for Saka , another striker and lastly a deputy for Ramsdale .

How it now turned out that we brought a new keeper and almost immediately relegate Ramsdale to
the bench ; only Arteta can explain
Nobody ever think we will get new goalkeeper
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:59pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
H2h how many mistakes have raya that concentrate for 90minutes conceded this season
Lets compare with ramsdale own last season and this season
Make I give you example sef... That Lens match that we lost, Raya was the sole culprit. His two mistakes cost us two goals.



The Ramsdale wey una dey advocate for, Did his performances against Westham and Brentford shows he is ready to fight for his spot?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 9:03pm On Nov 26, 2023
BlueRayDick:
It’s because Raya is the new bride that’s why we are over amplifying Ramsdale’s errors .

Last season Gabriel made errors , Saliba made errors , Partey made errors, even Saka lost vital penalty . But nobody is calling for their heads or treating them unfairly cos of that. For all we know they were a part of a great team that did well.

As at the end of last season the major additions I thought was necessary was a DM , a deputy for Saka , another striker and lastly a deputy for Ramsdale .

How it now turned out that we brought a new keeper and almost immediately relegate Ramsdale to the bench ; only Arteta can explain
I’m just waiting to see when they’ll come for Raya like goalkeepers don’t mistake that they want to crucify Ramsdale for it.

All we’re saying is Ramsdale shouldn’t be dropped to the bench like that since he’s part of the squad that made it possible for the team to be in the UCL. Arteta just brought someone on loan to immediately replace the goalkeeper that help the team into the UCL. That’s the bias we’re talking about.

The same Raya that plays like someone under pressure is who you want to place over Ramsdale.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 9:07pm On Nov 26, 2023
mostob:
Make I give you example sef... That Lens match that we lost, Raya was the sole culprit. His two mistakes cost us two goals.



The Ramsdale wey una dey advocate for, Did his performances against Westham and Brentford shows he is ready to fight for his spot?
That same Raya that made us almost concede a stupid goal against city and also concededed a funny goal from Mudryk is who you’re advocating for?

Arteta no really try for this matter, moreover Teta is someone I like and I support him but on this matter, he no try.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Lush100(m): 9:36pm On Nov 26, 2023
iamoyindamola:
So that mean arteta should have been sacked for bottling top4 and the league last season
Do you agree?
.

Oga lets put this .
Assuming after Arteta bottled up top 4 and then arsenal mgt decided they went all out for Pep G of Man city.
As a fan would u have been annoyed or not.

Can u answer this honesty? (even if u feel Arteta should be given chance)
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