Indispensable85:



I don see Oba shake some persons before.
See evidence!

Oh!
Thank you boss

Maybe the 'hypeman' didn't mean the kind of handshake I have in mind.

thomasjoe:


Most truths are but half lies !
Kindly do your personal research on the name Izoduwa / Ekhaladeran to connect the missing dots.
The Bini people still have a festival to commemorate Ekhaladerans exit and wandering into Uhe ( which is now called Ife)...
Isnt it funny your people claim Oduduwa came from heaven with a chain ? When we Binis know where he is from ?

Ekhaladerans was killed by the Ogiso of Igodomigodo He never got to Uhe.
Ekhaladeran was not d father of Oranmiyan. Is not Oduduwa that gave birth to Oranmiyan.
Oduduwa coming down by chain is from Yoruba religion not d actual history.
The historian that wrote about Ekjaderan story must be drunk on cheap palmwine. 100% Yoruba, Itsekiris, Ogiamien, Akoko Edo, Akoko Ondo, Lukumi etc don't believe in it.

funmijoyb:

Yes I'm happy Binis are Yoruba

Please don't be angry when will talk about the ownership of lagos state.

OVB123:
Please don't be angry when will talk about the ownership of lagos state.

Whose angry I'm sure you can see that's is still within the Obaship not that Ogiso founded Lagos

funmijoyb:

Whose angry I'm sure you can see that's is still within the Obaship not that Ogiso founded Lagos

Look at who is talking. Where is the person that fell from the sky from, and with chains?

Padipadi:

The owner of the owner of Eko saw them and welcomed them to his land.
Bini boy, the day Nigeria ll split, you guys are going with southwest. It's for your own good. Accept jejely or accept the hard way!

Omo yami, let those Benin or Edo in generally follow Biafra or stand alone. Adding them to Yoruba is like pouring palm oil on someone wearing white. They are useless and good for nothing people. We don't want olosho exporters in our society.

Sorryfor ya self

OVB123:
Is it paining you? Sorry ooo!

Hamachi:
Oh really, I will Google fact check it.

Addressing The Myth That The Oba Of Benin Does Not Leave His Palace Or Travel.
https://www.nairaland.com/7924246/addressing-myth-oba-benin-does

OVB123:
Look at who is talking. Where is the person that fell from the sky from, and with chains?

That's Ogiso "the king of the sky"

funmijoyb:

That's Ogiso "the king of the sky"

Let me not continue with you again. Please take heart.

Donaldoni:


Wrong!

Only Benin royalty is affiliated to Yoruba

The Ancient Ado were related to the Yorubas
The first Igodomigodo was in the Ado Ekiti Area
That is why till today the Yorubas still call the Edo People the Ado

It was War that made the 3rd Ogiso move Igodomigodo to todays's Area

Today's Benin is in about the 3rd Location of Igodomigodo

Just like Old Oyo was moved to New Oyo because of the Fulani invasion

saintrow1:


Omo yami, let those Benin or Edo in generally follow Biafra or stand alone. Adding them to Yoruba is like pouring palm oil on someone wearing white. They are useless and good for nothing people. We don't want olosho exporters in our society.

Actually, even if Yorubas wan send dem away, the family bond won't. Benins are part of ancient Yoruba descendants.

Padipadi:

Actually, even if Yorubas wan send dem away, the family bond won't. Benins are part of ancient Yoruba descendants.

History have NO business with the reality on ground today.

saintrow1:


History have NO business with the reality on ground today.

You v point though cos their arrogance def too much

VEHINTOLAR:

Lol,what is 'Izoduwa' ? This is laughable ! Your "Ekhaladeran" or something is certainly not Oduduwa as he (Oduduwa) didn't speak Bini or any Edoid language ! "Afewonro" - he who drops with a chain from the sky - is actually metaphorical,it doesn't mean Oduduwa descended literally with any chain from the sky ! Your Elders at the palace of Oba know exactly what that statement means,and besides,there are many of such statements in the the holy Books if you're a faithful of any,you should know that !

Yoruba know their history very well and don't need anyone to fabricate nonsense and present same to them as their history ! You Binis can continue to search for your missing Ekhalada or something,he is certainly not Oduduwa! Ifa ,Ogun,Osun,Obatala,Yemoja-Olokun,Sango,Osanyin,etc are all Yoruba deities whose shrines are all present at the Palace of Oba of Benin;none of them is native to Bini people ! The Bronze casting,which today Benin is renowned for, is an ancient work of the Ile Ife (Yoruba) people,it was alien to Bini people until Oranmiyan and his Yoruba entourage from Ile Ife arrived at "Ile Ibinu" - Benin. It was a skill taken to Benin by the Yoruba people of Ile Ife and that's a fact. This was also captured in the Ijaws' accounts of Benin's history.

Take it or leave it,Bini are not Yoruba people but the Oba of Benin is of Yoruba ancestry through Oranmiyan. There is a sacred shrine in Ile Ife,"Orun Oba Ado shrine" in which historical accounts claim must be visited by a newly installed Oba of Benin immediately after coronation. It is still there till tomorrow,I have been there;I saw it ! For those who may not know,"Ado" is same as Bini.

See,the truth is that Yoruba people are not actually bothered about these fabricated stories you Binis bandied around in a futile attempt to present yourselves in whatever light that's in your heads and that's why most Yoruba just laugh it off when you begin to tell this story of your "missing Izoduwa" !

Pls,note I may not respond any further to this; I'm a busy man.

We are both busy Dear Nairalander but
I will try to create time to respond to you !
We are all here to learn and also help educate others .
Now think about this!
Yoruba know their history very well but You can't tell where Oduduwa came from right ? Or the origin / meaning of the word Yoruba (that is another issue though )

In fact the story is that Oduduwa came from heaven on a (crane) chain .
[Connect the dots ... A foreigner who came from Heaven to meet people couldn't have founded their race.]

Ask the Olugbo of Ugbo or other core aboriginal Yoruba ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYNOtk3xqg?si=CANK8HhMgs_xwKVt

Logic can be simple..pls explain the.metaphor you're talking about ...don't complicate or hide under the veil of more ignorance ...

We are all learning and Truths unfold with the passage of time .
Yorubas are great people , So are Binis .

Truth is that the Yorubas saw ahead and aligned with the White Man but the Bini felt too secure to do so and when push came to shove , the White man overran the Benin empire , then began to subjugate the culture , history and everything about the Binis .
Try to read Bradbury, Ryder, Sequera and the initial book written by Jacob Egharevba which he had to later "revise" because he needed to be made a professor!

[quote author=VEHINTOLAR post=127185919]

Lol,what is 'Izoduwa' ? This is laughable ! Your "Ekhaladeran" or something is certainly not O

thomasjoe:
Dey play!

Yoruba know their history very well but You can't tell where Oduduwa came from right ?

In fact the story is that Oduduwa came from heaven on a (crane) chain .
[Connect the dots ... A foreigner who came from Heaven to meet people couldn't have founded their race.]

Ask the Olugbo of Ugbo



We are both busy Dear Nairalander but
I will try to Create time to respond to you !
Dey play!

Yoruba know their history very well but You can't tell where Oduduwa came from right ?

In fact the story is that Oduduwa came from heaven on a (crane) chain .
[Connect the dots ... A foreigner who came from Heaven to meet people couldn't have founded their race.]

Ask the Olugbo of Ugbo or other core aboriginal Yoruba ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYNOtk3xqg?si=CANK8HhMgs_xwKVt

Logic can be simple..pls explain the.metaphor you're talking about ...don't complicate or hide under the veil of more ignorance ...

We are all learning and Truths unfold with the passage of time .
Yorubas are great people , So are Binis .

Truth is that the Yorubas saw ahead and aligned with the White Man but the Bini felt too secure to do so and when push came to shove , the White man overran the Benin empire , then began to subjugate the culture , history and everything about the Binis .
Try to read Bradbury, Ryder, Sequera and the initial book written by Jacob Egharevba which he had to later "revise" because he needed to be made a professor!

Lol ! Look at this one;a typical hothead from Bini ! I and so many other people here have said alot already about what you're just trying to bring out again.You may go back to my previous postings,you'll see the answers to all your questions there. More so,all the brain bursting facts you need to know about the Yoruba ancestry of your Oba are right there in Ile Ife,a trip to that ancient city will help !

Lol,who can't tell where Oduduwa came from ?! If you really want to know where he came from,even though I mentioned it in my previous postings with some verifiable evidences to back it up,a trip to Ile Ife in Osun state will help as well . Mind you, Oduduwa was NEVER from Benin or anywhere close to it. He neither spoke nor understood your native bini language,so how could he have been a Bini man ?!

Trust me,if you small fries,Binis dragg this issue more than necessary,we will begin to embarrass you with some of the historical facts that we will be posting on the internet ! There is no way a people like you who occupy two or three local government areas in your tiny land will ever be able to rewrite Yoruba people's history! You've been warned ! Some of your people are still crying and wailing on Twitter till now as a result of that little "gbas" we gave una !

ODUDUWA came from somewhere else and is not an aborigine Ife Man
TRY TO DROP YOUR EGO AND LISTEN TO THE OLUGBO OF UGBO (HE IS ALSO A YORUBA MAN)

VEHINTOLAR:


Lol ! Look at this one;a typical hothead from Bini ! I and so many other people here have said alot already about what you're just trying to bring out again.You may go back to my previous postings,you'll see the answers to all your questions there. More so,all the brain bursting facts you need to know about the Yoruba ancestry of your Oba are right there in Ile Ife,a trip to that ancient city will help !

Lol,who can't tell where Oduduwa came from ?! If you really want to know where he came from,even though I mentioned it in my previous postings with some verifiable evidences to back it up,a trip to Ile Ife in Osun state will help as well . Mind you, Oduduwa was NEVER from Benin or anywhere close to it. He neither spoke nor understood your native bini language,so how could he have been a Bini man ?!

Trust me,if you small fries,Binis dragg this issue more than necessary,we will begin to embarrass you with some of the historical facts that we will be posting on the internet ! There is no way a people like you who occupy two or three local government areas in your tiny land will ever be able to rewrite Yoruba people's history! You've been warned ! Some of your people are still crying and wailing on Twitter till now as a result of that little "gbas" we gave una !

thomasjoe:


ODUDUWA came from somewhere else and is not an aborigine Ife Man
TRY TO DROP YOUR EGO AND LISTEN TO THE OLUGBO OF UGBO (HE IS ALSO A YORUBA MAN)

Hey,little Bini man, what's eating you up ?! You've got to fix whatever that's making you acting up like some rabies infested dogs ! If you're not having a comprehension problem, there was no where I claimed,in any of my earlier submissions,that Oduduwa was "an aborigine Ife man" !

If only you'll put that little whitish substance you regard as a brain in your big head to a good use for once,you'll make a little efforts to revisit my earlier submissions so as to know what I said precisely about Oduduwa rather than chosing to disgrace your Ogiso ancestors here as you just did ! I never knew you Binis are this dumb, it's so amazing !

Oduduwa met some people in Ile Ife when he arrived among whom were Agbonmiregun who begat Setilu ! Little Bini man,this is a subject matter that's way, way beyond your elementary pedigree,even your elders have just a little knowledge of it !

Run along,your mates are waiting !

OVB123:
he pain u? Eeeeeyaaaa! Sorry ooo.

Pain me or not facts remains unchanged!

People that say the territory belong to Ronu will not like this your statement

[author=OVB123 post=127184787] He will visit the Oba of Lagos later. This is his territory.[/quote]

NaMe4:


Is that Areafada of Area Parliament?

No o. I have been called that name for a long time.

Giant Yoruba man,
Pls where is ODUDUWA from ?
Your cognitive dissonance is hot helping to cover the gaffes in your post!

VEHINTOLAR:


Hey,little Bini man, what's eating you up ?! You've got to fix whatever that's making you acting up like some rabies infested dogs ! If you're not having a comprehension problem, there was no where I claimed,in any of my earlier submissions,that Oduduwa was "an aborigine Ife man" !

If only you'll put that little whitish substance you regard as a brain in your big head to a good use for once,you'll make a little efforts to revisit my earlier submissions so as to know what I said precisely about Oduduwa rather than chosing to disgrace your Ogiso ancestors here as you just did ! I never knew you Binis are this dumb, it's so amazing !

Oduduwa met some people in Ile Ife when he arrived among whom were Agbonmiregun who begat Setilu ! Little Bini man,this is a subject matter that's way, way beyond your elementary pedigree,even your elders have just a little knowledge of it !

Run along,your mates are waiting !

Cognitive dissonance.
Even if you fell for the chain or crane stuff ...was the chain not linked to somewhere ?
Physician heal thyself ...

funmijoyb:

Ekhaladerans was killed by the Ogiso of Igodomigodo He never got to Uhe.
Ekhaladeran was not d father of Oranmiyan. Is not Oduduwa that gave birth to Oranmiyan.
Oduduwa coming down by chain is from Yoruba religion not d actual history.
The historian that wrote about Ekjaderan story must be drunk on cheap palmwine. 100% Yoruba, Itsekiris, Ogiamien, Akoko Edo, Akoko Ondo, Lukumi etc don't believe in it.

https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/14184036
Kindly go through this article from Stanford univerirty. Thank yourself later if you do and Ye shall know the truth and it will save you further embarrassment, and set you free.
But you're free to stay in your current condition too

VEHINTOLAR:


Lol,what is 'Izoduwa' ? This is laughable ! Your "Ekhaladeran" or something is certainly not Oduduwa as he (Oduduwa) didn't speak Bini or any Edoid language ! "Afewonro" - he who drops with a chain from the sky - is actually metaphorical,it doesn't mean Oduduwa descended literally with any chain from the sky ! Your Elders at the palace of Oba know exactly what that statement means,and besides,there are many of such statements in the the holy Books if you're a faithful of any,you should know that !

Yoruba know their history very well and don't need anyone to fabricate nonsense and present same to them as their history ! You Binis can continue to search for your missing Ekhalada or something,he is certainly not Oduduwa! Ifa ,Ogun,Osun,Obatala,Yemoja-Olokun,Sango,Osanyin,etc are all Yoruba deities whose shrines are all present at the Palace of Oba of Benin;none of them is native to Bini people ! The Bronze casting,which today Benin is renowned for, is an ancient work of the Ile Ife (Yoruba) people,it was alien to Bini people until Oranmiyan and his Yoruba entourage from Ile Ife arrived at "Ile Ibinu" - Benin. It was a skill taken to Benin by the Yoruba people of Ile Ife and that's a fact. This was also captured in the Ijaws' accounts of Benin's history.

Take it or leave it,Bini are not Yoruba people but the Oba of Benin is of Yoruba ancestry through Oranmiyan. There is a sacred shrine in Ile Ife,"Orun Oba Ado shrine" in which historical accounts claim must be visited by a newly installed Oba of Benin immediately after coronation. It is still there till tomorrow,I have been there;I saw it ! For those who may not know,"Ado" is same as Bini.

See,the truth is that Yoruba people are not actually bothered about these fabricated stories you Binis bandied around in a futile attempt to present yourselves in whatever light that's in your heads and that's why most Yoruba just laugh it off when you begin to tell this story of your "missing Izoduwa" !

Pls,note I may not respond any further to this; I'm a busy man.

My apologies Big man. !

I thought you were more matured and scholarly.....your responses reveal a lot.

I really am sorry to have placed you far higher than you have now shown to be...

Take care . . .

VEHINTOLAR:


Hey,little Bini man, what's eating you up ?! You've got to fix whatever that's making you acting up like some rabies infested dogs ! If you're not having a comprehension problem, there was no where I claimed,in any of my earlier submissions,that Oduduwa was "an aborigine Ife man" !

If only you'll put that little whitish substance you regard as a brain in your big head to a good use for once,you'll make a little efforts to revisit my earlier submissions so as to know what I said precisely about Oduduwa rather than chosing to disgrace your Ogiso ancestors here as you just did ! I never knew you Binis are this dumb, it's so amazing !

Oduduwa met some people in Ile Ife when he arrived among whom were Agbonmiregun who begat Setilu ! Little Bini man,this is a subject matter that's way, way beyond your elementary pedigree,even your elders have just a little knowledge of it !

Run along,your mates are waiting !

naptu2:
Jubril A. Gawat @Mr_JAGs



https://twitter.com/Mr_JAGs/status/1728839119491735695


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF2n6orpXKU?si=6kbYFFe10zf4ODoP


The reason for this and other recent visits is very simple.

1) Germany and the UK decided to return some artefacts that were looted from Benin.

2) There was a dispute over where it should go. The Oba of Benin wanted them (they were looted from the Palace) and the Edo State Government also wanted them.

3) President Muhammadu Buhari ordered that they should be given to the Oba.

4) The Oba of Benin visited President Buhari at the Aso Rock Villa to thank him.
https://www.nairaland.com/7102975/president-buhari-receives-benin-traditional

5) The Oba also visited Buhari in Daura (after he left office) to thank him again.
https://www.nairaland.com/7821945/oba-benin-visits-former-president

6) The Oba visited President Tinubu at the Villa to ensure that the arrangement was still in place.
https://www.nairaland.com/7764497/oba-benin-visits-president-tinubu

7) The Oba plans to build a royal museum to house the artefacts, so he came to Lagos with some of the people that will be involved in the museum (eg Nduka Obaigbena) to see how the J Randle Centre is run.

That's awesome... The new JK Randle Center for Yoruba Culture at Onikan, Lagos State is a very impressive model that the Oba of Benin can learn from with their own modifications that would also generate sustainable income from the returned Bini artefacts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYNOtk3xqg?si=CANK8HhMgs_xwKVt