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Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Mbanda(m): 6:53am On Nov 29, 2023
Deadlytruth:

There is also Nothing like North Central in the compass points but you haven't because of that denied the people of the present North Central Region their right to separate existence. So why is it only the SS' absence from the compass points that pains you lots so much?
North central is not the issue at hand. The name biafra is in the caption of this thread and that is where SS comes in, not north central. If you want me to comment on the issue of north central, you have to open a thread for that.
Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Mbanda(m): 7:13am On Nov 29, 2023
Deadlytruth:

First and foremost, the coup was plotted, hatched and led not by Nzeogwu but by Ifeajuna - a native of Onitsha in today SE Region. That said, the coup is correctly tagged Igbo coup not because of the tribe of those who plotted or executed it. Only a very dishonest person would pretend not to understand that a coup plot which is a very secrete endeavour by its very nature could only be shared with very trusted and close friends who are most likely to be from one's own ethnic group. However the coup is tagged an Igbo coup because of the pattern of casualty. Pray tell us how many Igbo politicians were killed in comparison to the other ethnic groups' politicians who were killed in large numbers and in the most cruel and gruesome manners. Were all the Igbo politicians in government back then saints and smelling of roses regarding the corruption which the clupists cited as their reason for sticking?
Thats a big fat lie, ifeajuna was not the leader of the coup. I don't know what you people gain from lying.

Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 7:44pm On Dec 06, 2023
Mbanda:
North central is not the issue at hand. The name biafra is in the caption of this thread and that is where SS comes in, not north central. If you want me to comment on the issue of north central, you have to open a thread for that.
The most important consideration in the composition of any group is the freewill choice of the proposed members. Pakistan was once part of India but with time they exercised their freewill to separate from India. Likewise some states in the US today weren't originally part of the union but later they exercised their freewill to join the union. Back in the days, the present Edo and Delta States together with the western parts of the present Bayelsa State were all part of the Western Region but they later exercised their freewill to separate from it. Therefore the fact that some states of the present SS were once together in the SE Region doesn't automatically deny them the freewill and freedom of choice to choose another political group they may now love to belong. They have repeatedly made themselves clear that they are not interested in Biafra and that they were never collectively interested in it.

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Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Mbanda(m): 11:02pm On Dec 06, 2023
Deadlytruth:

The most important consideration in the composition of any group is the freewill choice of the proposed members. Pakistan was once part of India but with time they exercised their freewill to separate from India. Likewise some states in the US today weren't originally part of the union but later they exercised their freewill to join the union. Back in the days, the present Edo and Delta States together with the western parts of the present Bayelsa State were all part of the Western Region but they later exercised their freewill to separate from it. Therefore the fact that some states of the present SS were once together in the SE Region doesn't automatically deny them the freewill and freedom of choice to choose another political group they may now love to belong. They have repeatedly made themselves clear that they are not interested in Biafra and that they were never collectively interested in it.
That is the reason why, IP0B is much interested in referendum.
Referendum is the only thing that can represent the choice of a commoner in SS. And that is the only way we will know, if yorubas are actually the ones claiming "we niger delta" in all the social media platforms.

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Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 11:30am On Dec 08, 2023
Mbanda:
That is the reason why, IP0B is much interested in referendum.
Referendum is the only thing that can represent the choice of a commoner in SS. And that is the only way we will know, if yorubas are actually the ones claiming "we niger delta" in all the social media platforms.
Why this focus on Niger Delta alone regarding this referendum? Are there not even some Yorubas who wish they could be part of Biafra and have publicly spoken in defense of Biafra and Kanu? Why not also argue that the referendum should be extended to Yorubas and indeed every part of Nigeria as there resides among other regions at least some Biafra sympathizers and supporters even more than the Niger Delta?

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Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Mbanda(m): 12:48pm On Dec 08, 2023
Deadlytruth:
Why this focus on Niger Delta alone regarding this referendum? Are there not even some Yorubas who wish they could be part of Biafra and have publicly spoken in defense of Biafra and Kanu? Why not also argue that the referendum should be extended to Yorubas and indeed every part of Nigeria as there resides among other regions at least some Biafra sympathizers and supporters even more than the Niger Delta?
Do yorubas have common boundaries with Igbos? I guess the answer is NO!
Do yorubas have anything in common with the Igbos? NO!
Do yorubas have the same value system with the Igbo? NO!
Do yorubas love Igbos? NO!

These are the reason why Igbos can never champion anything positive with the yorubas.
Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2023
Mbanda:
Do yorubas have common boundaries with Igbos? I guess the answer is NO!
Do yorubas have anything in common with the Igbos? NO!
Do yorubas have the same value system with the Igbo? NO!
Do yorubas love Igbos? NO!

These are the reason why Igbos can never champion anything positive with the yorubas.
But surprisingly, the Itsekiris whom Biafra agitators like you suggest that the referendum will cover are basically Yorubas and they don't deny their Yoruba ancestry and don't have any known common boundary with Igbos. Likewise, most non-Igbo tribes of the SS share no common boundaries with Igbos nor do dey have same value system as Igbos. In fact where I come from in the SS is such that our value system orientation gives us a culture shock whenever we experience Igbos display their value system on first hand basis. To be more specific, during my NYSC years in the North, I did my primary assignment in the same place as one fellow corper from Akwa Ibom State and an Ibibio. We shared the same apartment. There were these two Igbo female fellow corpers whom both of us were just casual friends with due to proximity of residences. One day I went to market to buy a shirt and on getting back home I met these two Igbo girls on a visit to us and once I showed them the shirt, both of them expressed surprise that I went to market to buy only one shirt at a time Christmas was approaching and all corpers were preparing to travel home. When I asked them what was wrong about that, they laughed at me and explained that they have each bought fourteen different dresses for the two weeks they would be spending at home because in Igbo land the tradition is that as a diasporan on a visit back home, you wear a new dress each day till you return to base and that if you repeat a particular dress while at home you would be perceived as not doing well where you are. I was shocked at that kind of value system and that immediately killed the feelings of love I had begun to develop for one of them. Then I explained that in my own place no one cares what you wear or how rich or poor you have become but only care that you came back home alive and in good health to see them and that's all. The Ibibio guy said exactly same about his people. And that is the general value system in majority of SS ethnic groups. So what value system similarities are you talking about between SS people and Igbos?

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