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Wether you call it:

Bini Empire

Oyo Empire

Sokoto Empire

Kanuri Empire

Songhai Empire

They were all evil. How do these people think empies are created? They were all built on the blood and suffering of people. You go and wage war, take over other people's lands, enslave and subjugate them. What can be good about that?

Even Nigeria was once part of the British empire, yet you celebrate leaving that empire every 1st October.

Empires should only be seen as part of history, they should never be celebrated. Empires were mans inhumanity to man. Empires were all evil

So only the igbos never had empires hence we all shouldn't celebrate empires. Those who were victims may choose not to celebrate the empires but the owners of fhe empires will celebrate them.

Na Forest and Bushes you the call empire?

What those people you mentioned up there had were forest and jungles chasing rats and bushdogs for breakfast and dinner.


With all their so called empires few white men came with a ship and parked all their kings and do with their women how the please.


Useless groups of archaic bushmen

SadiqBabaSani:
So only the igbos never had empires hence we all shouldn't celebrate empires. Those who were victims may choose not to celebrate the empires but the owners of the empires will celebrate them.

Apart from bini empire which still receives very little recognition due to their artifacts.


The rest of those so called empires were forest and jungles with some huts and cave houses made from palm leaves and bamboo stick

This post is beneath you, allow others celebrate their empire same way we celebrate our republic. It is their heritage. Every civilization was and still being built on blood and it is absolutely okay. You don’t know how many people who resisted or attacked our Republican AlaIgbo democracy and was eliminated to pave way for what we enjoy today.

AlexBells:
This post is beneath you, allow others celebrate their empire same way we celebrate our republic. It is their heritage. Every civilization was and still being built on blood and it is absolutely okay. You don’t know how many people who resisted our Republican AlaIgbo democracy and was eliminated to pave way for what we enjoy today.

Says what you know Alex, yes we had evil people that shedded blood but saying Alaigbo republic costed blood is fallacy, how can Alaigbo absorb blood what Mma-ndu (beauty of life) is sacred in Alaigbo?

How will blood be shed when leadership start from the family in Alaigbo till we get to onyeishi?

Alex, sometimes, I feel you write to please your enemies. Warrant chiefs is not part of our tradition as Igbo and that was the foundation of our problems as Igbos

Chibuzoc:
Says what you know Alex, yes we had evil people that shedded blood but saying Alaigbo republic costed blood is fallacy, how can Alaigbo absorb blood what Mma-ndu (beauty of life) is sacred in Alaigbo?

How will blood be shed when leadership start from the family in Alaigbo till we get to onyeishi?

Alex, sometimes, I feel you write to please your enemies. Warrant chiefs is not part of our tradition as Igbo and that was the foundation of our problems as Igbos

I appreciate your views now let’s face the arguments. I did not say AlaIgbo Republic, I’m referring to the traditional Republican democracy of the Igbo Nation. Now not all Igbos are a gerontocracy (Government by elders) I guess you are talking about Umunna which is almost common in all of AlaIgbo.

Now I’m from Ezikoba and we are gerontocracy. Our Onyishi is the traditional ruler, that can’t be said of Onitsha. Now let’s take a look of the Aro confederacy. They fought several wars to establish that confederation. The wars was mostly between Aro Igbo sub group and our neighbors in the present day Akwa/cross. You think we would just be democracy and don’t fight to protect it. There has always been people willing to invade others. People has to at all point resist outside rules or subjugation even among different Igbo groups.

Our democracy just like other civilization was paid for in full with blood. Just because it may not be recorded doesn’t mean that there was no resistance before it was widely accepted. Think about Ekumeku resistance by the Anioma block of Igbos fighting the British for over 30 years, if it wasn’t recent you will think we achieved our independence in a plater of gold. No there are price attached and if the need be, we would pay the price again and again to preserve or traditional Republican Democracy.

The Igbo world view of the value of life doesn’t extend to when someone or groups want to harm you, it is within your right in Igbo culture to defend even attack if the situation warrants it.

Including the one you read in Bible ?

SadiqBabaSani:
So only the igbos never had empires hence we all shouldn't celebrate empires. Those who were victims may choose not to celebrate the empires but the owners of fhe empires will celebrate them.

Lol. Empires that fell yakata and now overtaken by capitalist economic empires of the Igbos. Can you build anything that last with proceeds of crime?

BlackhatMentor:
Na Forest and Bushes you the call empire?

What those people you mentioned up there had were forest and jungles chasing rats and bushdogs for breakfast and dinner.


With all their so called empires few white men came with a ship and parked all their kings and do with their women how the please.


Useless groups of archaic bushmen

You de mind them? Make them no go work see food chop. Make Dem de deceive themselves. Igbos prepared ahead of them for trading empire. They never had foresight like igbos

KingKO22:
Including the one you read in Bible ?

Wow I love this

BlackhatMentor:
Apart from bini empire which still receives very little recognition due to their artifacts.


The rest of those so called empires were forest and jungles with some huts and cave houses made from palm leaves and bamboo stick

Especially those fraudulent yoruba so called empires.

AlexBells:
This post is beneath you, allow others celebrate their empire same way we celebrate our republic. It is their heritage. Every civilization was and still being built on blood and it is absolutely okay. You don’t know how many people who resisted or attacked our Republican AlaIgbo democracy and was eliminated to pave way for what we enjoy today.

Of course Arochukwu dealt brutally with anybody encroaching into their trade routes. Their own was legitimate trade, not waging wars to install kings.

Ogene001:
Of course Arochukwu dealt brutally with anybody encroaching into their trade routes. Their own was legitimate trade, not waging wars to install kings.

The Igbos are Republican capitalist, anything the Igbo man does for trade is done for the motherland. That’s who we are, Industry, commerce and technology is our symbol and we would even today level anything that stand on our way of that, everyone should take note. We don’t care about Kings, we care about our Republic, industry, commerce and technology that’s our heritage that’s what who we are.

AlexBells:
I appreciate your views now let’s face the arguments. I did not say AlaIgbo Republic, I’m referring to the traditional Republican democracy of the Igbo Nation. Now not all Igbos are a gerontocracy (Government by elders) I guess you are talking about Umunna which is almost common in all of AlaIgbo.

Now I’m from Ezikoba and we are gerontocracy. Our Onyishi is the traditional ruler, that can’t be said of Onitsha. Now let’s take a look of the Aro confederacy. They fought several wars to establish that confederation. The wars was mostly between Aro Igbo sub group and our neighbors in the present day Akwa/cross. You think we would just be democracy and don’t fight to protect it. There has always been people willing to invade others. People has to at all point resist outside rules or subjugation even among different Igbo groups.

Our democracy just like other civilization was paid for in full with blood. Just because it may not be recorded doesn’t mean that there was no resistance before it was widely accepted. Think about Ekumeku resistance by the Anioma block of Igbos fighting the British for over 30 years, if it wasn’t recent you will think we achieved our independence in a plater of gold. No there are price attached and if the need be, we would pay the price again and again to preserve or traditional Republican Democracy.

The Igbo world view of the value of life doesn’t extend to when someone or groups want to harm you, it is within your right in Igbo culture to defend even attack if the situation warrants it.

All Aro wars was for control of trade.

Ogene001:
All Aro wars was for control of trade.

Would the Igbo Nation exist today without industry, trade, technology and the Republic?

AlexBells:
The Igbos are Republican capitalist, anything the Igbo man does for trade is done for the motherland. That’s who we are, Industry, commerce and technology is our symbol and we would even today level anything that stand on our way of that, everyone should take note. We don’t care about Kings, we care about our Republic, industry, commerce and technology that’s our heritage that’s what who we are.

Thank you very much. Only when you mess with our ways of making money can we draw the sword. We don't go about devastating smaller tribes and installing our kings and carrying plunder all in the name of empire. We understood long ago that trade and commerce will be the tool for conquest not swords and guns

village empire

gidgiddy:
Wether you call it:

Bini Empire

Oyo Empire

Sokoto Empire

Kanuri Empire

Songhai Empire

They were all evil. How do these people think empies are created? They were all built on the blood and suffering of people. You go and wage war, take over other people's lands, enslave and subjugate them. What can be good about that?

Even you the Nigerian was once part of the British empire, yet you celebrate leaving that empire ever 1st October.

Empires should only be seen as part of history, they should never be celebrated. Empires were mans inhumanity to man. Empires were all evil

Excellent observation.
In fact, empires created religion and used it to commit mass murder/enslavement of peoples.
Empires even forged a faux marriage, family and sexual system where nothing natural happens, and which breeds all kinds of psycho-social dysfunction we see today.
The monogamy we have today is a direct product of the greco-roman empires. Without such unnatural imposition, it would have been impossible to build the empires because people would be free and happy in their little enclaves.
The list of evils created by empires on this earth is endless.

AlexBells:
Would the Igbo Nation exist today without industry, trade, technology and the Republic?

Trade, technology, industry is worth spilling blood instead of empty larger than life king with his vainglorious ego while his people are perishing. Empires and kingdoms are inferior political evolution. Republican capitalist remain ahead forever

@OP, in fact this is why Igbo ancestors STRONGLY rejected the idea of empires.
When the European thieves came to Igboland for the first time, they saw free people, and vowed to enslave them.
Hundreds of years later, the situation has only worsened.

Ogene001:
Thank you very much. Only when you mess with our ways of making money can we draw the sword. We don't go about devastating smaller tribes and installing our kings and carrying plunder all in the name of empire. We understood long ago that trade and commerce will be the tool for conquest not swords and guns

Well as at today there is really an ongoing assault to our enterprises, industry and technology. It may attract maximum retaliation but I prefer the part King Jaja of Opobo took when his empire was threatened in Bonny, he left quietly and found Opobo, I guess from now you could see where I’m going, we are heading and staying back to build AlaIgbo.

Ogene001:
Trade, technology, industry is worth spilling blood instead of empty larger than life king with his vainglorious ego while his people are perishing. Empires and kingdoms are inferior political evolution. Republican capitalist remain ahead forever

We are only lucky to be the most refined of the black race, our industry saw us recovering from a civil war shortly, that our impact is feared in far away Lagos such that they will need government intervention to try containing our business acumen is laughable. The horse has already left the ban.

AlexBells:
Well as at today there is really an ongoing assault to our enterprises, industry and technology. It may attract maximum retaliation but I prefer the part King Jaja of Opobo took when his empire was threatened in Bobby, he left and found Opobo, I guess from now you could see where I’m going, we are heading and staying back to build AlaIgbo.

Assault on our enterprise didn't start today. They always failed because of our formless amaeboic individualistic nature.

Ogene001:
Assault on our enterprise didn't start today. They always failed because of our formless amaeboic individualistic nature.

It didn’t start today, but the biggest is happening in our time however it is for our long term good, production in AlaIgbo is the way to go

AlexBells:
We are only lucky to be the most refined of the black race, our industry saw us recovering from a civil war shortly, that our impact is feared in far away Lagos such that they will need government intervention to try containing our business acumen is laughable. The horse has already left the ban.

After the war, they were revelling in their "victory" only to wake up few decades being overtaken. Now they have pushed for another war but continue to fail. They now throw themselves at any government for protection but will still fail

The fools are not ready for this truth.

Ogene001:
After the war, they were revelling in their "victory" only to wake up few decades being overtaken. Now they have pushed for another war but continue to fail. They now throw themselves at any government for protection but will still fail

The first war we fought in our weak point and their strength. They have spent centuries fighting wars. It is not surprising that we lost the first war, but this time around, the war is in our strength. Victory is assured.

Gathering of fools and cheatbeaters.
Ndi one man one forest.
Republican bushes,no wonder canibalism reigned supreme.Individualistic mugus.
One mumu is even saying the have taken over the economy abi trade of other places.Mumu dey think say everywhere na 50*100 Igbo lands

SadiqBabaSani:
So only the igbos never had empires hence we all shouldn't celebrate empires. Those who were victims may choose not to celebrate the empires but the owners of fhe empires will celebrate them.

The owners of the empires? You mean the thieves who used war to steal other people's lands so as to enslave and subjugate them?

I have often wondered why thieves are celebrated in Nigeria, now I know where it comes from.

gidgiddy:
Wether you call it:

Bini Empire

Oyo Empire

Sokoto Empire

Kanuri Empire

Songhai Empire

They were all evil. How do these people think empies are created? They were all built on the blood and suffering of people. You go and wage war, take over other people's lands, enslave and subjugate them. What can be good about that?

Even Nigeria was once part of the British empire, yet you celebrate leaving that empire every 1st October.

Empires should only be seen as part of history, they should never be celebrated. Empires were mans inhumanity to man. Empires were all evil

We know your problem.

You are jealous.

Your ancestors never founded any empires

SadiqBabaSani:
So only the igbos never had empires hence we all shouldn't celebrate empires. Those who were victims may choose not to celebrate the empires but the owners of fhe empires will celebrate them.

You dey mind them

They don't know what it means to found empires.

See them disgracing themselves above talking about trade routes..... The yorubas have been transacting with traders on the trans Sahara trade routes since loooong before the first European colonizers.
It was their encounter with Malian traders that introduced them to islam which they called "esin Male" meaning Malian religion as far back as 10th century.

Well we know them and chest beating so we shouldn't be surprised