victorclean:


Benin throne has been in existence and also had conquered Yoruba land and discovered Lagos for slavery route before Yorubas migrated from osun , Ogun , etc to claim it.

Remember Benin kings also sold lots of Yorubas to slavery. Yorubas are claiming Lagos now cos the land is closer to their homes than Edo state.

Are you saying Bini did not meet people in Lagos?
Did they enter empty land?

whitejs:


Are you saying Bini did not meet people in Lagos?
Did they enter empty land?

Yes

The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1

victorclean:


Yes

So from your previous comment, Bini conquered empty land?

whitejs:


So from your previous comment, Bini conquered empty land?

Benin people discovered an empty bushland then called Lagos

victorclean:


Benin people discovered an empty bushland then called Lagos

If it was empty then there would be no need to conquer anyone

whitejs:


If it was empty then there would be no need to conquer anyone

Nobody was conquered

Christistruth00:







If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded

Thebadpolitican:



As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded

Do you know that Lagos and Awori was Under Alaafin of Oyo
That was why when Benin first attempted to attack Awori Lagos the Alaafin sent Lagelu to repell them and the Olofin Awori and Lagelu with his Army successfully defeated them

Let me tell you more do you know that Portuguese sometimes fought in the Benin Army?

Portuguese Mercenaries were captured by the Awori they were later released back to the Oba of Benin whether he paid a Ransome for their release I do not know to Continue

It was when the Benin came peacefully requesting that they needed a Trading Post in the Area that the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori permitted them to Stay in Lagos Island

That is why the Land of the Lagos Island still belongs to the Awori people
Because Benin didn't Conquer Lagos it was only granted a Trading Post there

Till today Oba Of Benin has no Land in Lagos

Benin cannot Swim and Benin cannot Canoe
It was even the Itsekiri Yorubas who had Ijebu roots that were actually running the Benin Show on Lagos Island and they were Traders
Benin has so far refused to admit that


If Truth be told Isale Eko on Lagos Island was a was a Slave Market

The Reason the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori people put Benin on the Island was to make sure the Benin would not cause them any Trouble since Benin couldn't even Swim anyway and the Itsekiri Yorubas who ran the entire Lagos show for Benin were not even interested in fighting their Ijebu Kinsmen around Lagos


Finally the Land Mass of Isale Eko on Lagos Island that Benin is even Talking about is less than 1% of Lagos State

The Remaining Is Yoruba and in Badagry Egun

Even Isale Eko is Yoruba
Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since Oba Olugun Kutere who was the Ijesha Son of Princess Erelu Kuti'



On top of that it was even Ife that Founded Benin and both the Ogiso dynasty whose Crown Prince Ekhalerderhan they said got lost and Oba dynasty there

Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man

Obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Christistruth00:


Do you know that Lagos and Awori was Under Alaafin of Oyo
That was why when Benin first attempted to attack Awori Lagos the Alaafin sent Lagelu to repell them and the Olofin Awori and Lagelu with his Army successfully defeated them

Let me tell you more do you know that Portuguese sometimes fought in the Benin Army?

Portuguese Mercenaries were captured by the Awori they were later released back to the Oba of Benin whether he paid a Ransome for their release I do not know to Continue

It was when the Benin came peacefully requesting that they needed a Trading Post in the Area that the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori permitted them to Stay in Lagos Island

That is why the Land of the Lagos Island still belongs to the Awori people
Because Benin didn't Conquer Lagos it was only granted a Trading Post there

Till today Oba Of Benin has no Land in Lagos

Benin cannot Swim and Benin cannot Canoe
It was even the Itsekiri Yorubas who had Ijebu roots that were actually running the Benin Show on Lagos Island and they were Traders
Benin has so far refused to admit that


If Truth be told Isale Eko on Lagos Island was a was a Slave Market

The Reason the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori people put Benin on the Island was to make sure the Benin would not cause them any Trouble since Benin couldn't even Swim anyway and the Itsekiri Yorubas who ran the entire Lagos show for Benin were not even interested in fighting their Ijebu Kinsmen around Lagos


Finally the Land Mass of Isale Eko on Lagos Island that Benin is even Talking about is less than 1% of Lagos State

The Remaining Is Yoruba and in Badagry Egun

Even Isale Eko is Yoruba
Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since Oba Olugun Kutere who was the Ijesha Son of Princess Erelu Kuti'



On top of that it was even Ife that Founded Benin and both the Ogiso dynasty whose Crown Prince Ekhalerderhan they said got lost and Oba dynasty there

Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man

Obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Your story, sweet but no evidence


Riddle me this
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins

Thebadpolitican:


Your story, sweet but no evidence


Riddle me this
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins

Read this for evidence


That Lagos is Yorubaland is beyond Contention


Document from sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
Confirming Lagos is Yorubaland in 1890

Thebadpolitican:


Your story, sweet but no evidence


Riddle me this
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins

Did you say you wanted pre 14th century evidence of the relationship between Ife and Benin?

Ok



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOqY2THoSE?si=qPtWHRsiO8FWKUCR

whitejs:


If it was empty then there would be no need to conquer anyone

God Almighty continue to Bless you with Wisdom

Christistruth00:




Did you say you wanted pre 14th century of the relationship between Ife and Benin?

Ok



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOqY2THoSE?si=qPtWHRsiO8FWKUCR

Haha, you didn't post the funny clip, you're deceiving yourself

Let's assume that was your evidence but answer me

Answer me this....

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace, why is at that after leo ferbenous who did an excavation at the orun oba site in Ife found nothing, I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise

Thebadpolitican:



Haha, you didn't post the funny clip, you're deceiving yourself

Let's assume that was your evidence but answer me

Answer me this....

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace, why is at that after leo ferbenous who did an excavation at the orun oba site in Ife found nothing, I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise

Please what does Oranmiyan mean in Edo Language?

It means "My matter has been Settled in my favor" in Yoruba
Or also my Matter and Good destiny is Settled

This means there was a dispute ,or disagreement that has now been settled in his favor

Christistruth00:

Please what does Oranmiyan mean in Edo Language?

It means "My matter has been Settled in my favor" in Yoruba
Or also my Matter and Good destiny is Settled

This means there was a dispute ,or disagreement that has now been settled in his favor

Answer my questions


You're so comfortable lying to yourself oba of Benin is yoruba when you know is not

Tao11 did worse and she later gave up the chase

Christistruth00:

Please what does Oranmiyan mean in Edo Language?

It means "My matter has been Settled in my favor" in Yoruba
Or also my Matter and Good destiny is Settled

This means there was a dispute ,or disagreement that has now been settled in his favor

Your ooni is a fraud the oba of Benin still is older than it see the ooni at the bottom before awolowo came to do his trick

victorclean:


Nobody was conquered

Yoruba sub-group has been there since the 15th century before Bini entered later

Thebadpolitican:


Your ooni is a fraud the oba of Benin still is older than it see the ooni at the bottom before awolowo came to do his trick

Please kindly tell us the meaning of Oranmiyan in the Edo Language I have told you the meaning in Yoruba

Thebadpolitican:



Answer my questions


You're so comfortable lying to yourself oba of Benin is yoruba when you know is not

Tao11 did worse and she later gave up the chase

Go and Check Oba Of Benin Praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the Oba Of Benin's accomplished Praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned Oba Of Benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife


Tao11 is busy with Work
She will soon turn up

Christistruth00:



Go and Check Oba Of Benin Praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the Oba Of Benin's accomplished Praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned Oba Of Benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife


Tao11 is busy with Work
She will soon turn up

The author of those praise name is a fraud a yoruba nairaland man

Are you saying we should belive a nairaland author over an authority from the palace

whitejs:



Yoruba sub-group has been there since the 15th century before Bini entered later

From which book and what about before 15th century

Christistruth00:



Go and Check Oba Of Benin Praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the Oba Of Benin's accomplished Praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned Oba Of Benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife


Tao11 is busy with Work
She will soon turn up

Praise names cannot be used as any form of evidence I asked you of

Praise names are subjectives to the person who is giving the praises you can use any language to praise the king

Like the issue of adimilia, there was no king in Benin that was called that, probably an idol or a deep forgotten Benin word

It was called ovbie adimilia ikeji ooisa and not ovbie adimilia ikeji orisha


Regardless praise names can be used interchangeably and can never be used to justify or draw a Benin-ife connection

It will only be reasonable when such praise name appears before 1914 in a document

Christistruth00:


Do you know that Lagos and Awori was Under Alaafin of Oyo
That was why when Benin first attempted to attack Awori Lagos the Alaafin sent Lagelu to repell them and the Olofin Awori and Lagelu with his Army successfully defeated them

Let me tell you more do you know that Portuguese sometimes fought in the Benin Army?

Portuguese Mercenaries were captured by the Awori they were later released back to the Oba of Benin whether he paid a Ransome for their release I do not know to Continue

It was when the Benin came peacefully requesting that they needed a Trading Post in the Area that the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori permitted them to Stay in Lagos Island

That is why the Land of the Lagos Island still belongs to the Awori people
Because Benin didn't Conquer Lagos it was only granted a Trading Post there

Till today Oba Of Benin has no Land in Lagos

Benin cannot Swim and Benin cannot Canoe
It was even the Itsekiri Yorubas who had Ijebu roots that were actually running the Benin Show on Lagos Island and they were Traders
Benin has so far refused to admit that


If Truth be told Isale Eko on Lagos Island was a was a Slave Market

The Reason the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori people put Benin on the Island was to make sure the Benin would not cause them any Trouble since Benin couldn't even Swim anyway and the Itsekiri Yorubas who ran the entire Lagos show for Benin were not even interested in fighting their Ijebu Kinsmen around Lagos


Finally the Land Mass of Isale Eko on Lagos Island that Benin is even Talking about is less than 1% of Lagos State

The Remaining Is Yoruba and in Badagry Egun

Even Isale Eko is Yoruba
Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since Oba Olugun Kutere who was the Ijesha Son of Princess Erelu Kuti'



On top of that it was even Ife that Founded Benin and both the Ogiso dynasty whose Crown Prince Ekhalerderhan they said got lost and Oba dynasty there

Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man

Obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Photo shows Eko Ende, Eko Onde and Eko Ajala all in Osun State

Thebadpolitican:
The author of those praise name is a fraud a yoruba nairaland man

Are you saying we should belive a nairaland author over an authority from the palace

“Son of Adimula, Ikeji-oriṣa”!

What precisely is your defense?:

(1) That this ‘oríkì’ is fictitious, & is unheard of by the Bini kings or the Bini people?

(2) That this ‘oríkì’ indeed exists & is recognized by the Bini kings, but it doesn’t mean what it clearly says?
——
Which one?

Thebadpolitican:
Your ooni is a fraud the oba of Benin still is older than it see the ooni at the bottom before awolowo came to do his trick

Even in as recent as the 1930s, etc. the conventional European spelling of “Ooni” was with a single “o”.

And the conventional European spelling of “Alaafin” was with a single “a”.

Yet this your screenshot is supposed to have come from Lord Lugard in the 1900s/1910s. DeyPlay 😂

TAO11:
“Son of Adimula, Ikeji-oriṣa”!

What precisely is your defense?:

(1) That this ‘oríkì’ is fictitious, & is unheard of by the Bini kings or the Bini people.

(2) That this ‘oríkì’ indeed exists & is recognized by the Bini kings, but it doesn’t mean what it clearly says.
——
Which one?

Praise names are not constant, the are subjective to the praiser, thesedays with a mix of cultures anything goes you can praise a Benin king with any language not just benin only even with ibo

I saw a Benin man on yourube praising the oba with Yoruba words

On the son of adimila this is unlikely it would be a yoruba word, definitely a Benin idol, no kings in Benin history has such name this current oba of Benin accept praises from different dialect unlike the previous

victorclean:


From which book and what about before 15th century

What book did you get it from that bini entered first

whitejs:

What book did you get it from that bini entered first

You started from 18th century then shifted the post to 16th century. Stop being ignorant

abdeefggh:
The place is known as Orun Ọba Ado
https://twitter.com/ade0681/status/1729255024050790469?t=AaFdZkv6cfHumQIaRymnXA&s=19

They didn't show him visiting the fake site they only merged different videos to potray their narrative that is how they will cut the oba Benin speech on his coronation to pass their false narrrative, this yoruba people can't just accept the Benin people once dominated them in the past, inother to hide their shame they will try to claim the benin monarchy, just thesame way we dominated the yorubas
Same way we did for the igbos, but the yorubas are so cunny not to accept the past fact


this same site was dugged by leo ferbenous in 1914 and nothing was found the yorubas are trying to so hard to claim the oba of Benin as yoruba to hide their shame that Benins once dominated them


The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1



The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

victorclean:


You started from 18th century then shifted the post to 16th century. Stop being ignorant

Show me the post.

I think you are the one ignorant here.

Thebadpolitican:
Praise names are not constant, the are subjective to the praiser, thesedays with a mix of cultures anything goes you can praise a Benin king with any language not just benin only even with ibo

I saw a Benin man on yourube praising the oba with Yoruba words

On the son of adimila this is unlikely it would be a yoruba word, definitely a Benin idol, no kings in Benin history has such name this current oba of Benin accept praises from different dialect unlike the previous

Lol. It is one thing to praise your king in a language foreign to him.

It is another thing that the “praiser” is of the same ethnicity as your king; he praises your king in a language foreign to both him & your king; the praise words say your king is son to a certain Adimula who is king elsewhere; & your king sits right there proud of the praise words.