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Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Ijaya123:
In the auto industry, Land Rover Freelander is regarded as a vehicle that came out of the factory with 100 defects.

Even Mercedes Benz admitted that ‘Baby Benz’ and A-Class are about the worst products from their stable.

That’s to tell you that there are good and bad vehicles.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Requestmechanic: 4:53pm On Dec 11, 2023
Of a truth no car is bad, but there key things to look out for before purchasing, the engine, air conditioning, maintenance light, model,brand etc .
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by LalaSnakeLala(m): 4:53pm On Dec 11, 2023
Honda Pilot and Infiniti strongly disagree. grin
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by nedekid: 5:03pm On Dec 11, 2023
See, the issue is the quality of build.
Drive all comparable vehicles ie vehicles of the same class eg Honda civic, Toyota corolla, that small hyundai, Ford focus, Nissan sentra etc, all at thesame temperature, weather, roads, environment. Then notice which one breaks fewer.
You will find out that over the toughest conditions, some vehicles will break more than the others.
The issue is in our current financial conditions in naija, it is better to stick with a vehicle pocket friendly.
Eg, we have a japan used Toyota hiace bought about 12 years ago. Many years later, we got a brand new 2015 Nissan urvan. The Nissan joined the route that Toyota hiace had played for over 5 years.
Today, that Nissan urvan no longer exist, it was sold off practically as scrap, broken engine, messed up chasis, body etc. It was costing too much to keep on the road.
Guess what, that hiace is still strong. The engine not touched, only oil change. Regular maintenance, nothing special.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by nedekid: 5:05pm On Dec 11, 2023
LalaSnakeLala:
Honda Pilot and Infiniti strongly disagree. grin
Is Honda pilot bad?
I don't think so.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by OChimex: 5:07pm On Dec 11, 2023
onlinediva:
It depends on the person using the car.
The truth is, when you buy most car brands newer, they are mostly good. But cars in good conditions/newer are expensive, in developed countries most people do car payment.
Nigerians buy cars upfront, those are junks cars they buy, that's why they sleep at mechanic workshops.
Here in the US, I have driven many cars years, and never visited a mechanic, except oil change, Tyre rotations and routine .maintenance.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Peterobi90: 5:12pm On Dec 11, 2023
CoronaVirusPro:
9/10 grin grin grin grin

Share the link you got that rating.
Check Edmunds..
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by BigIyanga: 5:15pm On Dec 11, 2023
maxiuc:
Ask yourself why German cars comes with low mileage

A Toyota with 100k mileage is far better than a Benz BMW and Volkswagen with 50k mileage
because Germans travel fewer distance than American Toyotas that travel longer distance .. hence more mileage
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Achoghim: 5:32pm On Dec 11, 2023
I don't know about brands but some car models can be terrible.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Dec 11, 2023
Peterobi90:
Check Edmunds..
Edmunds is rating it 8.1, and that's just based on Edmunds rating.

Now show me where it ranks compared to other SUV in its class.

Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by TPound(m): 5:41pm On Dec 11, 2023
onlinediva:
As for me, no car brand or model is BAD.

I can point to our roads, mechanics, car parts sellers, economy, maintenance culture, driving habits, ignorance, stingyness, etc. in Nigeria as the ones BAD!!!

Do you AGREE or DISAGREE with me?

If you AGREE, you can point to other things I didn't include up there.

If you DISAGREE, let us see your reason(s).
Be like say you never jam Ford angry Windstar
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Ezlynn: 5:50pm On Dec 11, 2023
Not entirely true, but I agree with your reasons. In my opinion I will go for a Toyota for it's durability and a Benz for it's class.

In the meantime enjoy superior sounds just how the artiste intended on the oraimo spacepods.

Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Offkey: 6:32pm On Dec 11, 2023
Shoe get size.INNOSON can't be be compared to mazda
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by reddingtonblack: 7:22pm On Dec 11, 2023
Nazgul:
Anything from 30 years and above over there is referred to as vintage. People pay heavily to acquire them.
Vintage are limited to exotic brands and those cars are super machines in there time.

Go to copart and check regular cars around 30yrs you will see they are cheap. check honda , toyota, nissan those are regulars

What makes a car vintage is not just the age, spec and engine design must resonate "master piece"
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Bluffly: 7:49pm On Dec 11, 2023
brain54:
Bad is relative here in my opinion...


All you listed are valid points.


Performance is another... In terms of drive performance and "individual" quality you can't compare a Lamborghini to an audi for instance.

Or a Benz to say a Volkswagen in performance and drive. Even though both are good brands!
You are off point. Focus on the word "Bad"
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by ClitRaider: 7:56pm On Dec 11, 2023
timilehing:
Depends on which country you are.
In Nigeria, vehicles will be tag "a bad Car" simply because users can't find a good technician to attend to repairs.
Nigeria roads are not vehicle worthy, many car brand can not move freely on these roads without breaking their bumpers, such car will be termed "bad"
Imagine Nigerian tagged Honda Accord a Bad car cos of Legs pulling?!

What nonsense?!!

My Honda Accord that is a little less than a Lamborghini Aventador.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by zactunji(m): 8:10pm On Dec 11, 2023
I totally agree with u,cos av been using Mazda cx9 2010 model for 8years now and still running perfectly.actually Its toks.i only do the service by changing the oil and fuel filter.and I don't use Water for the radiator ,instead I used coolant.its been wonderful ever since .
I service it twice a year.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by vertueptime: 8:28pm On Dec 11, 2023
id4sho:
Have you heard of factory defects, you will run mad if you get lemon car undecided

Nissan Murano, land Rover freelancer, range rovers , Jaguar s, most bmw form 2010 down,Audi, VW Jetta and passat have factory defects
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by PhantomProbe(m): 8:42pm On Dec 11, 2023
Golf 4 na bad car. Very unreliable
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by PAQ(m): 8:46pm On Dec 11, 2023
There are brands that continuously make very unreliable models over the years. From gearbox issues to excessive oil consumption, engine failure & electrical issues.
There are brands that their models are sold with a premium price & cost a premium to maintain. Then after all that they depreciate so quickly that in a couple years a Corolla will cost more.
There are brands that are good in one region and horrible elsewhere. Nissan is very good in the US but bring it to Nigeria and see hell.

Finally there are brands with models cursed with all the above. Now that is a bad model from a bad brand. But regardless people still stubbornly buy them and even have a cult following.

I will not mention the brands & their models cos their die hard fans are here. They know themselves sha.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by ward90: 8:47pm On Dec 11, 2023
omo! na lie oo
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by MamaletASO: 9:14pm On Dec 11, 2023
ACURA is the most useless car I have ever seen
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by seniorgozman(m): 9:49pm On Dec 11, 2023
I disagree with you. Some cars are really bad
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Jabez55: 9:50pm On Dec 11, 2023
My VW Golf 4 is about to take my life with problems.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Quidsin(f): 10:22pm On Dec 11, 2023
id4sho:
Have you heard of factory defects, you will run mad if you get lemon car undecided

Nissan Murano, land Rover freelancer have factory defects
😗

True sir,

Reason some manufacturers stop production and recall some cars 🚗
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by vivalavida(m): 10:25pm On Dec 11, 2023
MamaletASO:
ACURA is the most useless car I have ever seen
Which acura model?

What made it useless?
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:51pm On Dec 11, 2023
reddingtonblack:
I doubt that, your GMC might seem perfect to you but Toyota is the most rugged brand of car, that is a japenese brand
If not that benz has more elegance, superior interior and top rated wheel balance i won't give it number 1

why do you think your politicians want to kill themselves on Toyota SUVs
I understand your sentiment. I was once like you. I believed Toyota was the most rugged car brand ever.

I’ve used my GMC now for almost 2yrs and the performance is just unbelievable. It far surpasses any Toyota ever, believe me as one who used Toyota all my life until early last year
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by BigIyanga:
If roadside Naija mechanics cant troubleshoot/fix a particular car without diagnostics tools..they tag it bad for Naija. Truth is, Naija is never ever factored into the equation of car manufacturing because we only buy used. Car makers make$€£ from selling new cars
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Caseless: 1:52am On Dec 12, 2023
Nazgul:
I agree with you. Indeed no car brand is bad.

The major reason why people keep having issues with their cars is because the average Nigerian buys a car which is 10 years and above.

Imagine driving Camry big daddy of 2005 in 2023. Or Toyota Highlander of 2002 That's 18 - 21 years after manufacture date. The mileage would be extremely high, mechanic would have touch touch the motor taya. It might have gear box issue, oil leakages, shock problem...etc.

Then you now talk about our bad roads, and quack mechanics. This is why it looks as if some brand of cars are bad.

Or imagine someone driving Honda EOD or baby boy in 2023 and complaining of leg problems, isn't that ridiculous? I doubt if people in civilized countries buy cars that old. Not when they have access to credit facilities which they can use to get newer models.

In Nigeria here, you'll buy whatever your money can afford.
But even in those advanced countries, we've seen people being rewarded for making 2M kilometers. I've seen a truck that's older than me and it's still good and strong. It's about maintenance.

That a car is manufactured in 2005 doesn't mean It's driven everyday since 2005. Some haven't really been extensively used.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Caseless: 1:54am On Dec 12, 2023
Jabez55:
My VW Golf 4 is about to take my life with problems.
😂

Golf 4 should do worse. Electrical issues everyday.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Caseless: 1:56am On Dec 12, 2023
PAQ:
There are brands that continuously make very unreliable models over the years. From gearbox issues to excessive oil consumption, engine failure & electrical issues.
There are brands that their models are sold with a premium price & cost a premium to maintain. Then after all that they depreciate so quickly that in a couple years a Corolla will cost more.
There are brands that are good in one region and horrible elsewhere. Nissan is very good in the US but bring it to Nigeria and see hell.

Finally there are brands with models cursed with all the above. Now that is a bad model from a bad brand. But regardless people still stubbornly buy them and even have a cult following.

I will not mention the brands & their models cos their die hard fans are here. They know themselves sha.
Be bold.
Re: No Car Brand Or Model Is BAD. Do You AGREE Or DISAGREE With That? by Caseless: 2:02am On Dec 12, 2023
Ijaya123:
In the auto industry, Land Rover Freelander is regarded as a vehicle that came out of the factory with 100 defects.

Even Mercedes Benz admitted that ‘V-Boot’ and A-Class are about the worst products from their stable.

That’s to tell you that there are good and bad vehicles.
are you sure?
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