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BlueRayDick:
Lmao.

Na people wey no know ball go dey follow u do this kind yeye argument. Shebi na the same minutes Van Persie that is always injured and Giroud that is mostly fit played for Arsenal?

U think say u dey wise? Go and bring their goals vs minutes played in an Arsenal shirt; I don pass people u go dey use bias stats draw into nonsense argument that will spiral into series and series of Amala turning.

If to say I no dey alive or I no get access to TV when Giroud played for Arsenal it would've been another thing entirely.

The bolded... You have started your own. Jodera asked for G/G and I gave him and he started crying foul.

Like I said this isn't a direct comparison. But if you wish me to go that route, state categorically clear here that you would accept whatever results comes out. State it and I will oblige you. Don't come and cry foul.

Crystal Palace want Nketiah, Arsenal is saying they want to keep him. Is like they're mad. Instead of them to use him to grab Eze in return, they're starting their jittery January approach already. Asif the guy will score anything if he is kept. Smh.

I know it is dead. Why?
Because anyone that watched the two knows this. If you now use the players behind these two Forwards as yardstick again, one knows who was not serious between two of them. But here are stats that on a normal day, i don't even need

Meanwhile....

daveP:
Crystal Palace want Nketiah, Arsenal is saying they want to keep him. Is like they're mad. Instead of them to use him to grab Eze in return, they're starting their jittery January approach already. Asif the guy will score anything if he is kept. Smh.

Eze? Abeg we no want. We need to sign a Striker before letting Nketiah go abeg

daveP:
I know it is dead. Why?
Because anyone that watched the two knows this. If you now use the players behind these two Forwards as yardstick again, one knows who was not serious between two of them. But here are stats that on a normal day, i don't even need

Spy, what do you have to say about this? Since you have been dodging my question about the class mark you used to categorize RVP amd Giroud together. Are the two still similar?

daveP:
I know it is dead. Why?
Because anyone that watched the two knows this. If you now use the players behind these two Forwards as yardstick again, one knows who was not serious between two of them. But here are stats that on a normal day, i don't even need

These stats are for all PL games. RVP played for Man United those records shouldn't count. Your facts are faulty.

mostob:
Spy, what do you have to say about this? Since you have been dodging my question about the class mark you used to categorize RVP amd Giroud together. Are the two still similar?

The stats Davep brought are faulty because some of the games RVP played in the PL were for United not Arsenal. We are looking at strictly Arsenal games. May be he didn't understand the root of the argument.

I am waiting for Blueray to give his affirmative statement so that I will provide the goals per minute records.

daveP:
Lets even swap team and put this Kai scenario in the team. Say, Madrid. Will Ancelotti be starting Kai so he can gain confidence? Lol. Well Ode too has been down low from last season form too. I've complained about the left to right possession. Notice how it takes two to make us go all the way back to Raya compared to last season too. Just two pressers.

Kai won't be starting for Madrid, esp under Ancelloti. Person wey bench a whole James wey him personally but for Everton and person wey no send Hazard till him retire. Lol.

Arteta changed our approach to games. But above all, we've been missing chances consistently and that's what's really killing us

Hausa:
I think we forget so soon that Timber is a defender.
In this team, we don't create enough goal scoring chances and dont score enough goals.
Let's forget about Timber for a moment and focus on the attackers (Saka, Mart, Jesus), and then the Feeders, i.e. the people who are supposed to service them (Odegaard, Rice). The attack is weak, the feed or service is also weak.

I remember our loss against Newcastle. People were angry that we got robbed. I was angry that we didn't do anything to hurt them in terms of chance creation.
Timber will only help to make the defense STEEL.
There's no one we have to make the attack elite. For even though it appears we have them, it is a case of elite today, and then leave u confused tomorrow.

Lol... Timber will certainly add in his own right to creativity as well as being strong defensively.

All those stretch of play and width game, he'll help in that as well as inverting if needs be.

That doesn't mean the forwards shouldn't be creative too but you see that bonus, it's highly needed too

iamoyindamola:
Shebi I talk am then same way I didn’t see white as a rb but last season that majority was f the big boys were out of form una they use am judge
So you are now seeing the light
Go and sin no more

I judge season per season basis tho

White was good last season but he's been abysmal this season.

If you majority of teams were out of form last season reason why White shone, then I think it won't be only him being affected. Maybe Odegaard, Saka, Martinelli etc are not too good too reason why they've dropped form this season since all seems out of form

I no go surprise if by next year, Spy go tell us say Havertz deh in the same class with Ozil and Cazorla during their time here.

Like Blueray said, if to say we no watch both during their time here, you fit yarn us this stats lamba.

Anything "par" weh suppose join the two together suppose be "par-titioning" (Dave P).

Spy360:
The stats Davep brought are faulty because some of the games RVP played in the PL were for United not Arsenal. We are looking at strictly Arsenal games. May be he didn't understand the root of the argument.

I am waiting for Blueray to give his affirmative statement so that I will provide the goals per minute records.

But Giroud played for Chelsea too na. Oya bring the records.

Jodera:
I no go surprise if by next year, Spy go tell us say Havertz deh in the same class with Ozil and Cazorla during their time here.

Like Blueray said, if to say we no watch both during their time here, you fit yarn us this stats lamba.

Anything "par" weh suppose join the two together suppose be "par-titioning" (Dave P).

I kuku brought Xhaka vs Havertz into the matter but my bro stylishly Dodge am. He say make I go talk to professors.

mostob:
I kuku brought Xhaka vs Havertz into the matter but my bro stylishly Dodge am. He say make I go talk to professors.

I see am and I surprise say him no fall for am

Person wey talk say na because of Havertz absence we lose to West Ham fit, Nothing fit shock me again

mostob:
Eze? Abeg we no want. We need to sign a Striker before letting Nketiah go abeg

Why now. You know that guy sabi sustain attack. Alongside Rice, counter against us go hard die. He also offers something different than the norm all by himself.

Spy360:
These stats are for all PL games. RVP played for Man United those records shouldn't count. Your facts are faulty.

i deliberately left out the season range for just arsenal time cos i was so so sure that you'll try hard to further dodge the reality. Lol. You didn't disappoint sha😎

This is faulty but your 0.4 that remains undefined metric by you is more relevant?

Jodera:
Kai won't be starting for Madrid, esp under Ancelloti. Person wey bench a whole James wey him personally but for Everton and person wey no send Hazard till him retire. Lol.

Arteta changed our approach to games. But above all, we've been missing chances consistently and that's what's really killing us

Exactly. By how big clubs behave, and for someone that heralded mentality throughout our All or Nothing period, he's doing way too much in the opposite direction.

mostob:
But Giroud played for Chelsea too na. Oya bring the records.

This is mainly Arsenal stats for both. The one i deliberately left out. 8yrs for Persie. 6yrs for Giroud. Lol.

daveP:
This is mainly Arsenal stats for both. The one i deliberately left out. 8yrs for Persie. 6yrs for Giroud. Lol.

Just leave spy to be grasping at straws wey no exist. He thinks all of us here got our certificates from Togo & Benin republic

daveP:
Why now. You know that guy sabi sustain attack. Alongside Rice, counter against us go hard die. He also offers something different than the norm all by himself.

Sustain? Eze and sustain no dey the same group o. He loses the ball recklessly and his workrate is zero. I'll rather go for Olise to compete with Saka.

daveP:
i deliberately left out the season range for just arsenal time cos i was so so sure that you'll try hard to further dodge the reality. Lol. You didn't disappoint sha😎

This is faulty but your 0.4 that remains undefined metric by you is more relevant?

mostob:
But Giroud played for Chelsea too na. Oya bring the records.

Why are you people acting unschooled?

We are grading Giroud using RVP as a yard stick in games played for Arsenal. You guys are including games played for other clubs and still think you're making sense?

Modified: I have seen the correct stats and I was expecting someone to make a statement on those stats.

Permit me to do so.
I think that 0.5 for RVP and 0.4 for Giroud does not translate to Giroud being useless. In fact statistically they can be classed together when you factor in the performance statistics of someone like Henry at the upper limit and Lacazette at the lower limit. This has always been my point. Mind you, no one is saying that he was a better player than RVP, but what we are saying is that he wasn't useless as erroneously claimed by some of you. A better breakdown season by season confirms that RVP only had a good season in his final two years for Arsenal especially his final year. Before that he was basically average. Giroud on the other hand wasn't spectacular but managed to deliver double figures each time apart from his final year.

I have included that of Henry as reference.

Person wey score 30 goals in 2 different seasons and 18 goals in 2 different seasons, shey na mate with person wey score just 16 goals in 2 seasons at his peak ?

NB: The former is injury prone while the latter is one healthy sexy moda4ka

BlueRayDick:


Person wey score 30 goals in 2 different seasons and 18 goals in 2 different seasons, shey na mate with person wey score just 16 goals in 2 seasons at his peak ?

NB: The former is injury prone while the latter is one healthy sexy moda4ka

subtle way of coming out of the closet?

Spy360:
Why are you people acting unschooled?

We are grading Giroud using RVP as a yard stick in games played for Arsenal. You guys are including games played for other clubs and still think you're making sense?

Modified: I have seen the correct stats and I was expecting someone to make a statement on those stats.

Permit me to do so.
I think that 0.5 for RVP and 0.4 for Giroud does not translate to Giroud being useless. In fact statistically they can be classed together when you factor in the performance statistics of someone like Henry at the upper limit and Lacazette at the lower limit. This has always been my point. Mind you, no one is saying that he was a better player than RVP, but what we are saying is that he wasn't useless as erroneously claimed by some of you. A better breakdown season by season confirms that RVP only had a good season in his final two years for Arsenal especially his final year. Before that he was basically average. Giroud on the other hand wasn't spectacular but managed to deliver double figures each time apart from his final year.

I have included that of Henry as reference.

Chai. Chai chai. Acting unschooled?


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mostob:
Sustain? Eze and sustain no dey the same group o. He loses the ball recklessly and his workrate is zero. I'll rather go for Olise to compete with Saka.

He actually can play that part well. But that workrate na the issue.

daveP:
Chai. Chai chai. Acting unschooled?


Okay.......🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️

You said you deliberately posted wrong data just to see my reaction. That's an educated person acting like he is uneducated. If it was a mistake or not deliberate I'll understand. But knowingly posting wrong stats and saying that you did so deliberately does not speak well of you as someone that want to engage constructively. I expected a simple apology. Thank you.

BlueRayDick:


Person wey score 30 goals in 2 different seasons and 18 goals in 2 different seasons, shey na mate with person wey score just 16 goals in 2 seasons at his peak ?

NB: The former is injury prone while the latter is one healthy sexy moda4ka

BlueRayDick:


Person wey score 30 goals in 2 different seasons and 18 goals in 2 different seasons, shey na mate with person wey score just 16 goals in 2 seasons at his peak ?

NB: The former is injury prone while the latter is one healthy sexy moda4ka

Lol @ bolded.

When I gave the illustrations below pix, that is exactly what I meant. Take away his last season for Arsenal and RVP would have been completely anonymous and below average. Whereas Giroud howbeit not spectacular but was consistent in delivering double figures throughout his stay apart from his last season.

Should we talk about Xhaka Vs Havertz?

Anyone?

Spy360:
Lol @ bolded.

When I gave the illustrations below pix, that is exactly what I meant. Take away his last season for Arsenal and RVP would have been completely anonymous and below average. Whereas Giroud howbeit not spectacular but was consistent in delivering double figures throughout his stay apart from his last season.

How can u take away his last two seasons? Everybody that watched Arsenal knew Van Persie was almost always injured which frustrated him and the fans alike.

When he was eventually healthy he proved he was not an average striker like Giroud was all through his stay at Arsenal. I see u struggle to accept Giroud was average all through his stay, but it is what it is.

Their goal haul is there for everyone to see na Haba!

For all i care
Giroud should be classify with the likes of welbeck, chamakh
Even eduardo better pass am na injury make him crayfish bend he was leading us to epl glory until that unfortunate incident and he never recovered
but giroud hmmmmm

How will an ardent Arsenal fan compare Van Persie and Giroud in their goal scoring ability?

Some people just like argument sha