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Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by EconFinance: 5:06pm On Jan 12, 2024
yahoodetector:
The PM should maintain his stance.

Stop these people from trooping into UK after that have voted for Bulaba and destroyed the country.

Now they have channeled their energy to Canada.

I have sent series of emails to the Canadian Diplomatic Missions to tell them of this trend and I am glad that somehow it is paying off and they have started tightening stringent policies in their visa approval.

We and una must dey this country experience the premium shege.

The "they" I am talking about know themselves
Na waa
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Calitoscassius(m): 5:07pm On Jan 12, 2024
johnog4sure:
Hehehe, we talk am say dem go still beg, things have changed my race is now needed all over the world. Congratulations to black Africans
Our race are needed? Yea right! More like our race are being enslaved all over the world, why can't our race make our own countries better? If we are that smart.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Gerrard59(m): 5:09pm On Jan 12, 2024
benalvino3:
you will not understand.
I don't need to understand people who lie branzely on the Internet.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Calitoscassius(m): 5:10pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
People who use "there" for "their", "borrow" for "lend" and scream with their smelling mouths open that "English no be my papa language" cannot be described as proficient speakers of the English language.
No mind that one grin He English is topnotch for him own mind.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Wealthoptulent(m):
benalvino3:
which proves my point given they are the ones getting the most VISA to enter these countries.
politics, for 2022 which has immigration number of 3.3m, Nigeria had jus 300k from the milli... nigerians no near numbers of Indian, Bangladesh & Pakistan immigrants..... they come with granny & uncle\aunts on one visa... whole community trust me
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Calitoscassius(m): 5:14pm On Jan 12, 2024
DadaStephen1:
You sound like you’re making sense, but what you just wrote here is an entire thrash that makes no meaningful or reasonable sense in any way.

Una go just Sidon, add two plus two, open mouth waaaa dey talk rubbish.

That’s stakeholders raising alarm and appealing to the government to tone down on their anti student immigrant policy because it’s spoiling business for them, you’re assuming nonsense.

Do you know how much is £75,000,000,000 that these universities pay as taxes to the government through students in Nairahuh? That’s exclusive of their profits! Do the maths if you can.

The decline started gradually from September, but they didn’t take it seriously. What they got in January was lower than what they projected based on the new policy. Imagine expecting population in a class to drop from 600 students to 300 students only to see that it dropped to 30 students and this is just January o.

This criminal country has swindled especially Nigerian students, because most Asians and even some Africans like Ghanaians come here funded by their governments.

A Nigerian will sell and risk everything to come here even with family, you will take visa fees, health insurance for all the family members without complaining, after collecting everything, you restrict them to work only few hours, no access to so many support and benefits, choke them with racism and start asking them to go back home that they are the problem.

They can’t go, they’re stuck and at the government’s mercy because they cannot even regain the capital that brought them in, if they return, it has to be empty handed and they’ll have to return to nothing and probably start life all over.

It’s not something you just want to jump on and comment without any form of knowledge or emotional intelligence bruv.
Very very very correct.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by SoNature(m): 5:16pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
I have never read Americans or South Africans or Singaporeans or Ghanaians used "borrow" instead of "lend". If an elite Nigerian like Iyin can use "borrow" rather than "lend", then it is finished. None of those nationalities' elites used "borrow" rather than "lend". None of them also argue stoopidly that "English no be my papa language".
Well, I wasn't referring to borrow, but there vs their. People always make that mistake... it's not peculiar to Nigerians.

I have realised that if you want those foreign schools to waive your IELTS, write a mind-blowing Statement of Purpose/Personal Statement. The admissions teams read everything word for word. At least a C4 in WAEC English language result will help too.

That's why they always state that even though they have general admission requirements, they treat every applicant's admission case based on his/her unique circumstances.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Calitoscassius(m): 5:18pm On Jan 12, 2024
Emman08:
A son of Indian migrants stopping others from migrating to the same country. Stop people from coming with their families, they take their money elsewhere. Its not too hard to understand. Sunak is a clown
Naa! Sunak is just a puppet, Sunak didn't make the decision the Tories made the decision. They just used Sunak to announce it.


The Tories are a bunch of old and middle aged white men and women, most of them are racist.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by ProtonX: 5:22pm On Jan 12, 2024
DadaStephen1:
You sound like you’re making sense, but what you just wrote here is an entire thrash that makes no meaningful or reasonable sense in any way.

Una go just Sidon, add two plus two, open mouth waaaa dey talk rubbish.

That’s stakeholders raising alarm and appealing to the government to tone down on their anti student immigrant policy because it’s spoiling business for them, you’re assuming nonsense.

Do you know how much is £75,000,000,000 that these universities pay as taxes to the government through students in Nairahuh? That’s exclusive of their profits! Do the maths if you can.

The decline started gradually from September, but they didn’t take it seriously. What they got in January was lower than what they projected based on the new policy. Imagine expecting population in a class to drop from 600 students to 300 students only to see that it dropped to 30 students and this is just January o.

This criminal country has swindled especially Nigerian students, because most Asians and even some Africans like Ghanaians come here funded by their governments.

A Nigerian will sell and risk everything to come here even with family, you will take visa fees, health insurance for all the family members without complaining, after collecting everything, you restrict them to work only few hours, no access to so many support and benefits, choke them with racism and start asking them to go back home that they are the problem.

They can’t go, they’re stuck and at the government’s mercy because they cannot even regain the capital that brought them in, if they return, it has to be empty handed and they’ll have to return to nothing and probably start life all over.

It’s not something you just want to jump on and comment without any form of knowledge or emotional intelligence bruv.
You're absolutely spot on bro. It's really really unfair.
Also, I said on some thread last year and some Nigerians were saying a whole UK won't suffer the consequences of their anti migration policies. And the British population assume that students and migrants have recourse to public funds when they don't. Lots of disinformation and false narratives being peddled. You're milking your migrants and sending them away or asking them not to come but just give us your money. The UK will sink itself eventually. Exited the EU, and now even your own population are leaving for better pastures in droves.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by ProtonX: 5:26pm On Jan 12, 2024
maasoap:
Two or three years to come, nobody will tell them to change their policy again. No be the first time, won't be the last
Not even sure this policy will last that long after the elections this year. Labour is garnering lots of support
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by benalvino3: 5:28pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
I don't need to understand people who lie branzely on the Internet.
you don't understand how numbers work but let me help you.
According to the UK government’s official statistics, India received the largest share of UK study, work, and visit visas in 2020, with 353,000 granted visas, a 13% increase from the previous year. Nigeria was the fifth largest nationality to receive UK visas, with 118,000 granted visas, a 6% decrease from the previous year. Therefore, India holds the highest number of study permit applications for England, followed by China, the US, Hong Kong, and Nigeria1
as you can see from the above, Indians entering the country was more than 3 times compared to Nigeria, Yet they are still second behind Nigerians bringing in their family. if you still don't get it then I suggest you improve your analytic skills.

with the numbers above for Indians and Nigerians, Indians should be a distant first if they have the habit of bringing in their families. Like i said, most of them moving to the UK, Canada etc are young. 17 to 24 make up the majority of them.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by martineverest(m): 5:39pm On Jan 12, 2024
Natbrowny:
Exactly.. Na Game plan.. They r using d media to garner more.


Nigerians wey no sabi wetin dey be like

UK is losing already.

UK wey sabi manipulate. Una think say PM made d decision alone.

Na top migrants dem go attract last last
Its a game plan.. Mofos knw what they r doing..
but many of their Universities will close operations due to lack of applicants and revenue
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by jedisco(m): 5:49pm On Jan 12, 2024
Regex:
Baba no mind this people. English we speak and learn in school is quite different from what is spoken here and used in learning. When I came to UK I realised that either the British taught us rubbish or as information over time whether formal or informal lose its form and or to an extent value as it gets handed down from generation to generation. Another I am speculating and I have everything to believe given situation of things surrounding us is that we were taught and we refused to learn. That IELTS is a snippets to how English is used here and honestly I do not want them to write it off.
Can you please speak for yourself.
I prepared for both IELTS academic and general at different times both in less than 10 days and got an above 7.5 band score each time.

The English I learn and speak back home is structurally no different from what is spoken in the UK aside some expected colloquial differences e.g using 'sick' instead of vomit. Many Asians are surprised at our command of the language.

Nairaland is a good example that we communicate well in English which afterall is another option along the many languages we speak.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Gerrard59(m): 5:52pm On Jan 12, 2024
benalvino3:
you don't understand how numbers work but let me help you.
as you can see from the above, Indians entering the country was more than 3 times compared to Nigeria, Yet they are still second behind Nigerians bringing in their family. if you still don't get it then I suggest you improve your analytic skills.

with the numbers above for Indians and Nigerians, Indians should be a distant first if they have the habit of bringing in their families. Like i said, most of them moving to the UK, Canada etc are young. 17 to 24 make up the majority of them.
benalvino3:
Nigerians and Indians too like to abuse any small opportunity they see. At least the Indians moving abroad hardly bring in their family members as most of them are young. Nigerians, Na the old them they travel these days.
Nigerians brought more dependants, and Indians came second. But you lied that Indians hardly take their families along.

I have already told you, accept that you lied. You won't die if you do.

P.S. The debate is not who gets the most visas, but who takes the most dependants alongside the primary applicants. Nigerians and Indians do so very well.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Emman08: 5:56pm On Jan 12, 2024
Calitoscassius:
Naa! Sunak is just a puppet, Sunak didn't make the decision the Tories made the decision. They just used Sunak to announce it.


The Tories are a bunch of old and middle aged white men and women, most of them are racist.
You're 100% correct.
Simply put it they're a bunch of privileged, posh tw*ts
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by jedisco(m): 5:58pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
I have never read Americans or South Africans or Singaporeans or Ghanaians used "borrow" instead of "lend". If an elite Nigerian like Iyin can use "borrow" rather than "lend", then it is finished. None of those nationalities' elites used "borrow" rather than "lend". None of them also argue stoopidly that "English no be my papa language".
I think we need to see language for what it is- cultural and dynamic. Words are added yearly to the English dictionary and what constitutes right and wrong moreso at different times in history is never white or black moreso for a language like English.

I could go on and list tens of English words or phrases used only in certain countries or even subregions even within the different countries that make up the UK that are not used elsewhere. Same thing with spellings. E.g When did sick become vomit
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by benalvino3: 6:00pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
Nigerians brought more dependants, and Indians came second. But you lied that Indians hardly take their families along.

I have already told you, accept that you lied. You won't die if you do.

P.S. The debate is not who gets the most visas, but who takes the most dependants alongside the primary applicants. Nigerians and Indians do so very well.
I cannot help you. you don't have analytic skills. you don't know what par capita is.
UK allows 500 Indians in, out of the 500 only 100 bring in dependants.
UK allows 150 Nigerians in, out of the 150, 125 bring in dependants.
this reflects what I said, India is still 2nd but the ratio is 1 in 5 Indians bring in dependant compared to Nigeria.
So what is the Ratio for Nigerians bringing in dependants with the example above?
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by igwedubai2(m): 6:06pm On Jan 12, 2024
benalvino3:
Nigerians and Indians too like to abuse any small opportunity they see. At least the Indians moving abroad hardly bring in their family members as most of them are young. Nigerians, Na the old them they travel these days. grin grin
my brother that isn't Tru ooooooo I live in Mumbai bombey in Indian, so all my Indian friends both young and old are tripin out every day by day to meet there relations and friends in United kingdom. Because Indian people doesn't want to use ears to hear what they called Dollar. Enh Dolapo
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Gerrard59(m): 6:07pm On Jan 12, 2024
benalvino3:
I cannot help you. you don't have analytic skills. you don't know what par capita is.
UK allows 500 Indians in, out of the 500 only 100 bring in dependants.
UK allows 150 Nigerians in, out of the 150, 125 bring in dependants.
this reflects what I said, India is still 2nd but the ratio is 1 in 5 Indians bring in dependant compared to Nigeria.
So what is the Ratio for Nigerians bringing in dependants with the example above?
Next time, you should state "By sheer numbers, Indians hardly bring dependants compared to Nigerians". This is because according to the stats from the Home Office, Indians come second in dependant ratio. It is that ratio which got the Home Office alarmed, not actual students' numbers after all, amidst the geopolitical brouhaha, the Chinese were at the top as of 2022.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Gerrard59(m): 6:09pm On Jan 12, 2024
jedisco:
I think we need to see language for what it is- cultural and dynamic. Words are added yearly to the English dictionary and what constitutes right and wrong moreso at different times in history is never white or black moreso for a language like English.

I could go on and list tens of English words or phrases used only in certain countries or even subregions even within the different countries that make up the UK that are not used elsewhere. Same thing with spellings. E.g When did sick become vomit
I understand country-specific context, but using "there" for "their" and "borrow" for "lend" no follow. Only Nigerians do so. Only us, even an elite.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by benalvino3: 6:12pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
Next time, you should state "By sheer numbers, Indians hardly bring dependants compared to Nigerians". This is because according to the stats from the Home Office, Indians come second in dependant ratio. It is that ratio which got the Home Office alarmed, not actual students' numbers after all, amidst the geopolitical brouhaha, the Chinese were at the top as of 2022.
with my 2nd post, you should have known I am talking about share numbers. the fact I said what you posted proves my point as Indians are in second place. then my 3post about visas show I was talking about share numbers. you analyze things especially when it has to do with numbers. just because you see one number is higher than the other does not necessarily mean it is higher than the other. So now you know i am not lying. cheesy
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Bluntemperor: 6:16pm On Jan 12, 2024
What is the News here?
That UK and all there Universities are indirectly threatening Nigeria Populace of 200Millions- that the few that wants a better life , especially in Education - should not bring any Family Members!
Who does that , without repacusions?
Ti ebiti yin'oba gbobi,a fi eyin feleyin,
' now!
Afterall,UK no be the Only recognised Educational Country,in Europe or in other American States,although,they are good!
But the reasons for this Discriminatory practices is the wrong -assumptions that ' the Blacks are getting More than their Population'!
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Calitoscassius(m): 6:32pm On Jan 12, 2024
Emman08:
You're 100% correct.
Simply put it they're a bunch of privileged, posh tw*ts
Absolutely!
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Enemyofpeace: 6:35pm On Jan 12, 2024
Education is a scam
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Ezemeiyogu(m): 6:36pm On Jan 12, 2024
They will surely have a rethink after some months of implementation.


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Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Amayabor1: 6:38pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gerrard59:
People who use "there" for "their", "borrow" for "lend" and scream with their smelling mouths open that "English no be my papa language" cannot be described as proficient speakers of the English language.
Na low self-esteem dey worry you.

Nigerians, generally are good English speakers. In fact, some of the best in the world. That doesn't mean some Nigerians do not make mistakes with the language.

I have heard some Britons speak and I can tell you that many Nigerians are better speakers of the English language than many Britons. The worse are the Americans. This is why most universities in US and Canada put Nigeria as one of those countries whose citizens (if you studied in Nigeria) do not need to provide an English proficiency test to gain admission. The UK knows how much it gets through the British Council from Nigerians. That is why they require us to provide IELTS.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by alex81(m): 6:43pm On Jan 12, 2024
I believe the numbers will drop in the next intake.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by ttmacoy: 6:58pm On Jan 12, 2024
That’s actually not true. The average international student is younger, single and funded by their parents and family. The average Nigerian international student especially over the last few years is in his or her 40s, married with children and coming as a student solely with the goal of migrating not actually studying. That’s why you see many Nigerians flocking to lower ranked universities which are cheaper and easier to get admission.

Many of these universities are just money mills and don’t give a shit about ensuring the students get good jobs or get a good education.

If they take the option away Nigerians will still go, we are so desperate and hooked that we will still go.


Nbote:
Na them go still lose. It's a no-brainer. Most people from Asia and Africa who go to study in the UK and Europe do so because it allows them come with their dependants. Take that option away and there won't be any need to come. Apart from Oxford and a few other prestigious universities, why would anyone want to pay high fees to the UK when you still won't be allowed to work with your degree without meeting some annpying requirements
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by ttmacoy: 7:08pm On Jan 12, 2024
You’re not ashamed to write this rubbish? You claim their university system is morning with you yet you can’t sort out your own university system lol.



CoronaVirusPro:
About 3.5% of their own population make it to university!

If foreigners don't come-in, their university system will be roasted!

How many of their citizens can even afford university fees....
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jan 12, 2024
ttmacoy:
You’re not ashamed to write this rubbish? You claim their university system is morning with you yet you can’t sort out your own university system lol.
Good morning!
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by DadaStephen1(m): 7:37pm On Jan 12, 2024
I live in the UK, and I can tell you that Indians and Bangladeshis bring more dependants than Nigerians.

A Nigerian man goes to UK with his wife and kids, that’s all. Worst case, his wife puts to bed, they bring the mother in law for a short stay.

An Indian travels to the UK with his wife only.

Then in few months, he has brought in 5 relatives of his, then his wife too, then those ones bring more and more and more and more.

A Nigerian will come to school and then look for a job permit to remain with his family.
An Indian will get a business or self employed visa and bring in numerous Indians to sell in his corner shop or help with his “small business”.

That’s why Indians are all over the place! Na dem be PM, na dem be Mayor for London, na dem be Taxi Driver, na dem be everything.


UberEats in UK is owned by an Indian 🇮🇳 and na only Indians dem dey employ. Dem don take over 3 Network, dem don dey take over MacDonalds.

These guys are the criminals in the UK, yet they have a very strong community and they’re taking over the country gradually.

This is same with Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans.

But Nigeria wey no reach anything, na our voice dem go dey hear for everywhere. Very loud and very overconfident in rubbish.

Nigerians back home for Nairaland and Facebook go dey cap nonsense on top half information wey dem get about people wey dey UK, the ones wey go get chance manage enter the UK like Emdee Tiamiyu go cast everybody and everything just for 2mins of fame.

Na why dem dey put eye and mouth for Nigerians be dat.
Re: Foreign Students: UK Varsities May Fall Into Deficit, Says Report by erico2k2(m): 7:45pm On Jan 12, 2024
Nbote:
Na them go still lose. It's a no-brainer. Most people from Asia and Africa who go to study in the UK and Europe do so because it allows them come with their dependants. Take that option away and there won't be any need to come. Apart from Oxford and a few other prestigious universities, why would anyone want to pay high fees to the UK when you still won't be allowed to work with your degree without meeting some annpying requirements
See you lol I laugh in Chinese lol.U dnt know how rich the UK is.4get the press.if covid could not dent them then nothing will.This government who bails out entities that are vital to their society..They won't lose nothing
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