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Aemmyjah:
To give birth to something or someone is different from creating it
I'm teaching you for free
Ignoramus

FRANCISTOWN:
When did I say giving birth to something is tantamount to creating it?
I was already alive before I was given birth to.

So who is the ignoramus here?

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who believes in any form of supernatural being is a theist.

jaephoenix:
Those NDE folks brains doesn't stop functioning. Even when we confirm someone clinically dead, it doesn't mean the brain cant function. The brain remains functioning 5 to 6 minutes after the heart stops pumping. In those 5 or 6 minutes, they can dig into their memory banks and conjure those NDE moments, before return of spontaneous circulation occurs(restart of heartbeat)
Another thing that makes rubbish of NDEs is it is experienced by people of every religion, and each one talks about meeting their resppective gods, or religious experiences. So which god is the real one?
That should tell their experiences are simply religious indoctrinations that are replayed, like explained earlier

FRANCISTOWN:
You are just ranting, and it's begining to get me irritated for real.
You've not said anything to counter what I said. I said what I said with respect to scientific discovery. During NDE, their are rhythmic brain patterns similar to dreaming, memory recall and meditation.

Your brain uses the information in it's memory to create series of phantasmagoricals. That's why a blind man can never have a visual dream and a deaf man, an auditory dream. Simply because their brain has no information on that(simply nothing in the memory with respect to that)

Whatever a man experiences during NDE would simply be a memory recall of his imagination, what he must have seen, or what he must have heard.

As we know, to create imaginations. Your brain still needs to get synthetic.

You don't know anything about the brain yet you are here creating a whole lot of nuisance and academic embarrassments.

This is as simple as what a basic 5 pupil should know. This is so embarrassing, honestly and I'm beginning to get pissed.

I have no pleasures for mediocrity.

FRANCISTOWN:
Thank you so much.

@triplechoice. This is coming from a certified medical practitioner.Therefore, come and plead your ignorance and apologize appropriately.

LordReed2nd:
Not quite. Not all supernatural beings are gods and it is people who believe in supernatural beings described as gods who are theists. You can lack belief in gods and yet believe supernatural beings exist.

See here: https://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/47929

Or just look up Raelism, the wiki link is wonky.

FRANCISTOWN:
Thank you so much.

@triplechoice. This is coming from a certified medical practitioner.Therefore, come and plead your ignorance and apologize appropriately.

triplechoice:
That person has misrepresented me. So nothing to apologize for.

A certified medical doctor should explain to you first, what it means for the brain of the clinically dead to go flatline before anything else. He has not shown he knows the difference.

Aemmyjah:
Certified doctor your ass?
Have you been reading his comments?
Certified doctor that says, labor in women is not painful

FRANCISTOWN:
Level of pain varies from women to women.
Therefore some women may not experience pain as opposed to some that may experience really excruciating pain.
Therefore. Labour in some women is not painful

FRANCISTOWN:
Well, in the grand scheme of things. I'd just stick to Wiktionary.

Deity:
1.Synonym of divinity: the state, position, or fact of being a god.
2.A supernatural divine being; a god or goddess.

Atheist:
A person who believes that no deities(supernatural divine being)exist.
Antonym: Theist

LordReed2nd:
Supernatural divine beings are not the same as supernatural beings.

FRANCISTOWN:
Well, I agree with you that there are some atheists who believe supernatural phenomenon. To me, that feels very funny.
I mean someone doesn't believe God because there is no proof of it, but he believes the supernatural (of which there is no proof of it as well)
To me and to many others what will agree. Those ones are not atheists.
I don't know if you're feeling me?

Jackanda1:
https://mobile.facebook.com/FAITHDOCUMENTARYLIFE/photos/a.127774875809318/216773890242749/?type=3&_rdc=1&_rdr

cc: emasun francistown enemyofgod2 lordreed botragelad

LordReed:
Dude, Kenneth Hagin, really? LoLz.

jaephoenix:
This madman. Lol 😆
This is a new year. Press the start button in your brain
Present your evidence again or shut your piehole

FRANCISTOWN:
You keep throwing the word 'flatline' around, it seems you don't even understand what it means. I did well to avoid it because it doesn't corroborate my argument.

Flatline is simply a sudden or complete shutdown of the human brain(brain death), which could be an aftermath of brain injury, cardiac arrest or anything that suddenly stops the brain from receiving oxygen.
All flatlines or lemme say most flatlines result to death but, not all death is a result of flatlines.

Lemme use something you can relate to.

Assume you are using a desktop PC without a UPS, or lemme say a laptop without a back up.
Your PC is directly connected to power and you are enjoying yourself.

Case 1:
When you shut down the PC. Upon shutting down, the PC closes all your unterminated softwares and windows by itself and even gives you the opportunity to cancel some. That's what happens to the brain when you die, after death. The brain remains active for anything within seconds, to minutes or hours.
Then flatline occurs. As the PC finally shuts down. The PC is not powered because it is shut down.
Here, the victim dies first, then flatline occurs as a result of death.

Case 2:
Your PC is on, without UPS or backup, just the power cable connected to it . Suddenly power is cut off(let's say NEPA, or the charger blows up) or you long press and hold the power button . Immediately the PC will go off, without warning.
The sudden power outage is the reason the PC is off.
Here! Flatline is the cause of death.

Flatline occurs after death (case 1, which is the common case)
but for some people flatline is the cause of death.(case 2, which is not rare)
There could be series of factors leading to case 2, such as: head injury, cardiac arrest e.t.c

You should pay me for this lecture

triplechoice:
That's double standard and hypocrisy



I think you just want to show you're smarter and not that you're interested in any sincere conversation . I cannot be played so enjoy yourself.

Aemmyjah:
Your parents created you?
Your parents gave birth to you?

Which one is FACT

LordReed2nd:
I feel you on the no proof for supernatural beings part but I still class them as atheist, their failure to maintain critical evaluation standards notwithstanding.

All these stories and beliefs about supernatural beings remind me of when I was a kid watching G-Force and Voltron, wishing with every Fibre of my being that I was one those exciting heros leaping, fighting and piloting awesome machines. When you grow up you know these were fantasies and you cherish them for what they are, instead of maintaining them as some kind of proof of another world or realm. It is so freaking childish to me right now.

Dtruthspeaker:
An atheists is a person who loves lying, so they cannot be believed. There are very bad and unreliable witnesses

FRANCISTOWN:
Ha! What did I do wrong?
Let's not misunderstand each other.
Let's get back to the premise of this argument.

A man who supposedly died and came back to life but in the course of death claimed he saw a "thing" which he concluded in his mind to be God, despite no formal introduction between the two.

Myself and several others repudiated the claim and proposed that the man must have been in a state of imagination sequential to prior information or beliefs held by the man.

We further strengthened our arguments that NDE/ADE is strongly governed and presented in ways that suit whichever information, believe or beliefs that an individual may hold or has heard about during the individual's lifetime.

That is, a buddhist will most likely see Buddha when he dies.
A christian will see Jesus.
A muslim will see Allah( or nothing, as their religion does not preach that)
A Hindus will see Krishna and co (as in the account of Shanti Devi in the 60s of the India people)
An IFA worshiper will see IFA.
And so on...

Also, our argument rests on this main fact that, someone who has never heard of any god or hold no legends of god in the slightest
form of regard will most likely see a loved one, absolute darkness, a bright light. Some may not even see nothing, while some may not remember what they'd see.

Therefore, I present my thesis.
Shall we start all over?