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Eneye4me:
Continuing crying. Slave.

Postinor:
🤣🤣🤣,then not now and I can't comment on that I wasn't alive then, but as at now israel is overrated

tctrills:
Well you may have overrated them but they never overrated themselves. From day 1, their prime minister told the world to expect the operation to last several months.
Intelligent people all over the world expected the operation to last many many months. If the US spent 20 years in Afghanistan why should anyone expect any less of Israel?

Postinor:
you want to compare afghanistan to common hamas🤣🤣🤣, keep on playing, well let's seat and see how the war will end for israel it is the end that matters

Brenn594:
imagine the rubbish you're saying, do you even know what you're saying. you just assume something you're not sure of.

IMEI:
Musa was a descendant of Israil or Israel (Yakub or Jacob)

Children of Israel are a people, Judaism is a religion
A muslim child of Israel isn't a jew, likewise a Christian child of Israel isn't a jew
An adherent of judaism is a jew
Musa was a child of Israel who was a muslim, his followers followed him on the path of Islam

gaby:
The Zionists rate even Arab Muslims more than you black and Christians. I hope you'll ponder upon this for a minute.

mikeapollo:
Judaism, the Jewish religion had been in existence and was practiced for several hundreds of years before Christianity. Again, Christianity had been in existence for at least 600 years before Islam came.
Christianity was founded by Jesus Christ. Islam was founded by Mohammed.

Moses (Musa in the Quran) had lived and died several hundreds of years before both Jesus Christ and Mohammed were born.

So tell me: How then do you say that Moses (Musa) was a muslim and his followers (children of Israel) followed him on the path of Islam?

Can you see how you people tell more lies to cover up your lies? You people always want to claim what does not belong to you, and that is the main reason for the Arab-Israeli war!

The whole world knows that Moses (Musa in the Quran) was a Jew through whom God gave the land of Israel to the Jews. It is written in the Quran Chapter 5 vs 20-21

TenQ:
What are Arabs doing in Gaza?
Where did they migrate from?
Who was their king?

LegalWolf:
Unless I am under a wrong impression, are you implying your support for Israel in the ongoing conflict right?

TenQ:
1. Are you saying you surport the kidnap and killing of civilians by Hamas?

This is what I think:
Isreal should force Hamas to release all their citizens that they have kidnapped on On 7 October 2023

2. Do you think Israel should do nothing to get back their abducted citizens?

LegalWolf:
Expectedly, you keep returning to intellectual trenches. I am not asking for what you think Israel should do. Nah!!! Do you support what they have done ?

Quite a simple question.

IMEI:
I asked you a simple question, point me to the Qur'anic verse that describes Musa as a jew

Oga look, Islamic belief is that only Allah exists as God and has ever existed as God. Musa(Moses), Isa(Jesus), Ibrahim(Abraham), Nuh(Noah), Ishaq(Isaac), Ismail(Ishmael), Yakub(Jacob), Ayyub(Job), Yusuf(Joseph) etc. are all Prophets of Allah

All these Prophets of Allah, beginning with Adam the first human being, all followed Allah's one and only religion which is Islam. They all had one God and worshipped and obeyed one God

It doesn't make sense that one God will have multiple religions. Islam is the only religion that God sent down to mankind, therefore Islam is the only true religion

Judaism, Christianity et al are distorted versions of the original Islamic messages Allah sent down to these Prophets

Islam meaning Submission to the ONE TRUE GOD i.e. Allah

TenQ:
I have told you exactly what I think: And it says what I think Israel should do as you asked (underlined)
Israel should force Hamas to release all their citizens that they have kidnapped on On 7 October 2023

Then I asked you two clear questions which you refused to answer
1. Are you saying you support the kidnap and killing of civilians by Hamas?
2. Do you think Israel should do nothing to get back their abducted citizens?

3. By the way: What has Israel done according to you?

LegalWolf:
LOL!

In response to your question (which I did with extreme reluctance to avoid the charge of 'not always answering you'), here is what I think:
1. Israel should not have blockaded Gaza

LegalWolf:
2. Israel should have allowed food, drink and basic life support enter Gaza

LegalWolf:
3. Israel should have afforded Palestinians basic human rights such as food, shelter, human decency and what not.

LegalWolf:
4. Israel should not have built settlements outside the 67' borders and relocated approx. 700k people into Palestinian territories.
5. The list is practically endless.

LegalWolf:
That should answer your questions as you did answer mine... Isn't it? I have had numerous conversation with you to know your stand from the first brush. I can correctly predict that this conversation would be fruitless, distasteful, IQ reducing and devoid of any substantial intellectual benefit to me or anyone.

So enjoy yourself!

mikeapollo:
If your Quran does not tell you the truth that Moses (Musa) was an Israelite (a Jew), then I wonder what you are taught.
All the prophets that you mentioned, Musa(Moses), Isa (Jesus), Ibrahim (Abraham), Nuhu (Noah), Ishaq(Isaac), Ismail(Ishmael), Yakub(Jacob), Ayyub(Job), Yusuf(Joseph) etc. are all from Israel, and Jews.
Judaism and Christianity are the religions that came from these prophets. They are not Muslims and not of Islam. You claim to love the prophets of God but you hate their people, who are that Israelis and Jews

Islam came from Saudi Arabia through Mohammad. The prophets in the Quran are Jews. It is in Quran Chapter 5 vs 20-21.
Know this and know peace. You cannot claim to love the prophets of God and hate their people.

IMEI:
Qur'an Chapter 5 Verses 20-21 don't in anyway mention that Musa or his people were jews, if anything, they affirm that they were slaves of Allah

Your problem is not being able to differentiate between the Children of Israel .i.e. the descendants of Israel as a people and jews as the followers of the religion of judaism

The Children of Israel can belong to any religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc. The Children of Israel mentioned in the Qur'an were clearly worshippers of Allah of the Qur'an, so how can they be jews? Have jews ever worshipped Allah of the Qur'an?

It's better you stick to quoting the Bible, in Islam God isn't a tribalist, He favours those who follow His religion and the Children of Israel were on His religion i.e. Islam.

mikeapollo:
This is how people cause confusion, deception and even crisis when they know the truth but would not want to say it because of religion. Stop telling lies in the name of religion! Nobody, no religion can change the identity of the children of Israel.
None of the children of Israel and their prophets was a Muslim. No single one of them. There was nothing like Islam in the time of the prophets like Noah (Nuhu), Moses (Musa), David (Dauda), Solomon (Suleiman), Jesus (Isah), Abraham (Ibrahim), Isaac (Ishaq), Yakub(Jacob), Job (Ayub), Joseph (Yusuf) etc. There was nothing like Islam or Allah to them.
The God that the children of Israel always know from the beginning of their history is called Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim etc.
There is nothing like Allah in their language; Nothing like Islam.

The Quran must have copied and borrowed a lot of what is written inside it from the Torah and the Bible, which is okay. But to say that children of Israel and their prophets were Muslims worshipping Allah is a pure lie. You cannot say it anywhere except on a faceless online forum like this where anybody can say anything and get away with.

Ishmael is not part of the children of Israel.

IMEI:
Qur'an Chapter 5 Verses 20-21 don't in anyway mention that Musa or his people were jews, if anything, they affirm that they were slaves of Allah

Your problem is not being able to differentiate between the Children of Israel .i.e. the descendants of Israel as a people and jews as the followers of the religion of judaism

The Children of Israel can belong to any religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc. The Children of Israel mentioned in the Qur'an were clearly worshippers of Allah of the Qur'an, so how can they be jews? Have jews ever worshipped Allah of the Qur'an?

It's better you stick to quoting the Bible, in Islam God isn't a tribalist, He favours those who follow His religion and the Children of Israel were on His religion i.e. Islam.

TenQ:
How come you are this ignorant?

Jew is an abbreviation of Jude which is a shortened for of Judah.
This was the name typically given to Israel after the 10 tribes of Israel were dispersed by the Assyrians.
Judah is one of the trelve tribes of Israel and of the tribes that survived the dispersion.

Please learn your history
Don't take my words for it. confirm if this is true !

Jesus was a Jew as well as all His Apostles

mikeapollo:
This is how people cause confusion, deception and even crisis when they know the truth but would not want to say it because of religion. Stop telling lies in the name of religion! Nobody, no religion can change the identity of the children of Israel.
None of the children of Israel and their prophets was a Muslim. No single one of them. There was nothing like Islam in the time of the prophets like Noah (Nuhu), Moses (Musa), David (Dauda), Solomon (Suleiman), Jesus (Isah), Abraham (Ibrahim), Isaac (Ishaq), Yakub(Jacob), Job (Ayub), Joseph (Yusuf) etc. There was nothing like Islam or Allah to them.
The God that the children of Israel always know from the beginning of their history is called Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim etc.
There is nothing like Allah in their language; Nothing like Islam.

The Quran must have copied and borrowed a lot of what is written inside it from the Torah and the Bible, which is okay. But to say that children of Israel and their prophets were Muslims worshipping Allah is a pure lie. You cannot say it anywhere except on a faceless online forum like this where anybody can say anything and get away with.

Ishmael is not part of the children of Israel.

IMEI:
I made up my mind to never reply you again after our previous encounter but i'll do it this last time

A lot of your claims are bible claims and modern biblical scholars have disputed the origin story you've narrated here

Do you know that according to Israeli law of the right to return, if a jew leaves judaism he/she loses the 'right to return'?

Modern biblical scholars dispute these origin stories and i give no credence to them personally

I'm commenting from the Qur'anic angle and the 67th verse of the third Chapter, Surah al-Imran clearly states that the father of all Abrahamic religions i.e. Abraham was a muslim

The verse goes "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists"

The righteous descendants of Ibrahim(Abraham) were on his religion

You'll get no reply from me

TenQ:
How come you are this ignorant?

Jew is an abbreviation of Jude which is a shortened for of Judah.
This was the name typically given to Israel after the 10 tribes of Israel were dispersed by the Assyrians.
Judah is one of the trelve tribes of Israel and of the tribes that survived the dispersion.

Please learn your history
Don't take my words for it. confirm if this is true !

Jesus was a Jew as well as all His Apostles

Lukuluku69:
Clown.

Jew an abbreviation of Jude?

I know you are confused, delusional are you also imbecilic?

TenQ:
Thank you sir and wishing you well in this new year.

Lukuluku69:
I didn't get to see any of your Thread wishing Nairaland Atheists, African Traditionalists, Jews/Zionists a happy New Year.

No Data or what?

Oh! The Fixation is with Islam and Muslims?

Continue o

Botragelad:
Source:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-23/israel-says-21-soldiers-killed-in-gaza-in-worst-single-day-toll#:~:text=Israel%20said%2021%20of%20its,against%20Hamas%20began%20in%20October.

omoiseselagba:
Someone just told you what you don't know but arrogance and ignorance won't let you learn.

Google is your friend.go figure out what he said.

Dagger111:
Who dash monkey banana? It's unfortunate this is a faceless forum.

DaTruths:
You would have? Faceless forum na em dey save your likes.

You no fit see me one on one for neutral ground cap shit