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Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Jackiedemie(m): 11:51am On Jan 29 |
festacman: Thanks you, you nailed it cos there is no law that says you can't engage on the scheme when you're 30 except at the time of your graduation!! In any case, I doubt if he committed any offense by still undergoing NYSC because he was within the age limit at the time he graduated. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Jackiedemie(m): 11:53am On Jan 29 |
Wallade: You're wrong. The assession he started is right!! 1 Like |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 11:54am On Jan 29 |
Jman06: There is no point for this argument, the matter is in court already. Let's see the interpretation of the courts on the age and eligibility confusion concerning NYSC. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 11:56am On Jan 29 |
[quote author=yemex04 post=128181394][/quote] The part of the act that you kept in bold does not explicitly address the age and eligibility confusion we are discussing. That is the reason some persons in connivance with NYSC officials tend to take advantage of the lacuna in the law. Never mind, there is no need for this argument, the matter is in court already. Let's see the interpretation of the courts on the age and eligibility confusion concerning NYSC. When a law isn't explicit, the courts provide clarity. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by ConfidentialDoc: 11:56am On Jan 29 |
nedekid: I thought it was only me that noticed 1 Like |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 11:59am On Jan 29 |
Jackiedemie: I disagree with you, just like the various senior advocates of Nigeria - lawyers - disagree with your interpretation of the NYSC act. The only organization that can clarify us is the court so keep your argument pending till the court makes a pronouncement on it. We are not courts or judges. Simple. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Jackiedemie(m): 12:04pm On Jan 29 |
BlueRayDick: But the former NBA Chairman once make an assertion that 25% of FCT is mandatory for one to become the president. Do you think he didn't go through the law before making such unfounded utterances? The position of the law is 30 years at the point of graduation not mobilization!!! 1 Like |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 12:11pm On Jan 29 |
Jackiedemie: Where there is a lacuna or vague information in the law, the courts interpret the law and give explicit position on it to prevent misinterpretation. This matter is already in court so wait for the outcome. You are not a judge and you position is simply your own interpretation of the NYSC act. The position of the court supersedes all other positions, though you can appeal it to the highest (supreme) court in Nigeria. Just follow the event in court as it unfolds. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by OGHENAOGIE(m): 12:13pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade:you are wrong oga |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 12:14pm On Jan 29 |
OGHENAOGIE: You be judge? If court says otherwise to your opinion, abeg go carry placard for protest and question the court. You are welcome to the file at the court to be joined as a party in the case in court. Run and make it ASAP. LOL Nigerians no go just gree for anybody even when wrong! |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by EverythingPhone(m): 12:22pm On Jan 29 |
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Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Jackiedemie(m): 12:26pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade: Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1st August, 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if; at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification - he is over the age of thirty he has served in the armed forces of the Federation or the Nigeria Police Force for a period of more than nine months he is member of staff of any of the following, that is the Nigerian Security Organisation the State Security Service the National Intelligence Agency the Defense Intelligence Service he has been conferred with any National Honour. I think the bolded part will assist you to reconsider you position on this matter!!! Thanks!! |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Slimlord(m): 12:29pm On Jan 29 |
BondRiv: If you graduated before 30, even after 20 years, you'll serve 1 Like |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Bluntemperor: 12:29pm On Jan 29 |
festacman: Tru talk,bro! |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by DeOTR: 12:35pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade:Emphasis on when they filed your documents. Your graduation date is what NYSC will use to determine your age. That's the difference. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by BABANGBALI: 12:35pm On Jan 29 |
I ate that guy called Kenny Ogunbe. He is always behaving like a small children |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 12:37pm On Jan 29 |
Jackiedemie: Did the law tell you what happens with people who were below 30years old when they graduated but we're not filed to serve with NYSC for whatever reason and later turn up after they are above 30 years for service. The question you should ask is: who files your application for service with NYSC? Is it yourself or your Alma Mater or higher institution? However, this is not an argument worth my while because the matter is in court. You will do well to tell that to the court. You can apply to be joined as an interested party in the case. Thanks for your opinion, it is noted. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 12:47pm On Jan 29 |
DeOTR: Who files your document with NYSC? Is it yourself or your tertiary institution? So if you agree that the person to file is your Alma mater, why would the school not file within a period of 1year upon your graduation when you were less than 30years old? Why would your school file your documents with NYSC several years after you and your mates graduated? Didn't your Alma mater file your documents with NYSC when you actually graduated? If they did and for some reasons you didn't go for service, what happened to the previous filing? Can someone be filed for NYSC service twice? There is a lot of issues with your position if you must argue in favor of it. You have a lot of questions to answer to defend your argument above. Don't worry, the matter is in court already so let us wait for the outcome. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by festacman(m): 12:57pm On Jan 29 |
Svoboda: I agree. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by femi4: 1:03pm On Jan 29 |
festacman:The bolded is the reason. D1 has opened his eyes to politics money/power |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by femi4: 1:06pm On Jan 29 |
Slimlord:Wrong Once you're above the age limit, you can't serve. May be you don't understand what it means to serve. The service start from the below: You mean you will allow a 65yrs old man to through the rigorous 3weeks drilling with the soldiers in camp. That's the reason they put age limit there |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Oghene86: 1:11pm On Jan 29 |
BlueRayDick: Na wetin online go do most people that live their life online 😠|
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by djon78(m): 1:17pm On Jan 29 |
festacman: You dey mind the people sueing Kenny Once you graduated before 30 years you must do NYSC You can't escape it That's what one NYSC official told me when I went to verify whether I can skip it Kenny didn't break any law |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by djon78(m): 1:28pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade: You are wrong I personally went to NYSC headquarters in Abuja to get clarification whether I should serve or exempt after returning to Nigeria The officials checked my certificate and told me that if the date my certificate was issued I was even one day to my 30th birthday I must serve So the issue of courts interpreting anything is far fetched That's what happened to kemi Adeosun she was below 30 years when she graduated from the UK University So the certificate she submitted for minister position nailed her. She was carrying exemption certificate which wasn't supposed to be because she graduated before 30 years Kenny didn't do anything wrong as long as he had no public position then It's the minister that the court will interpret her case to know whether you will be serving and hold position in government at same time |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by greggng: 1:29pm On Jan 29 |
festacman: The nba is just wasting there time . If you graduate b4 the age of 30...you are entitled to serve ...such people cannot go for exception letter ...so Kenny took advantage of it ...Let them go and amend the nysc law |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by Wallade(m): 1:36pm On Jan 29 |
djon78: The courts interpretes NYSC act, supersedes NYSC office and staff and your opinion. The issue with Kemi Adeosun is simply that the exemption certificate given to her was forged. Let me ask a question about this - "personally went to NYSC headquarters in Abuja to get clarification whether I should serve or exempt after returning to Nigeria" : who filed your documents with NYSC? Was it you or your Alma mater? |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by djon78(m): 1:54pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade: I later did it online Via NYSC portal It clarified me My transcript that came with my certificate My certificate My o levels everything was certified via there portal Of which I later got my original NYSC certificate I believe you are even talking on mere presumption Something you don't even have a clue about Kemi Adeosun was nailed because she was meant to have served as her year of graduation was below 30 years The exemption she was carrying whether fake or real couldn't save her because she defaulted by age of graduation which nailed her So you don't have a clue of what you are talking about one bit All my credentials are authentic I can hold any government position without batting any eyelid because I am as clean as a bat The reason why many people get into trouble is typically like most average Nigerians they don't want to do the right thing the right So they cut corners Every of my academic documents from primary to post tertiary followed the right due process I ensure everything is straight forward so nobody will come and talk rubbish tomorrow around me |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by babyfaceafrica: 2:30pm On Jan 29 |
festacman: This is correct!! As long as he was 30 and below when he graduated, there is no problem. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by babyfaceafrica: 2:31pm On Jan 29 |
Hedonisco: Very true!! Old men served during my Nysc year too. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by babyfaceafrica: 2:32pm On Jan 29 |
Wallade: Nobody falsified any age. |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by babyfaceafrica: 2:33pm On Jan 29 |
yemex04: |
Re: NBA Sues Kenny Ogungbe, Hannatu Musawa, Culture Minister Over NYSC Certificate by babyfaceafrica: 2:37pm On Jan 29 |
Slimlord: Simple and short!! 1 Like |
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