Emu4life:

You dey caution people wey give you Bible.... Mumu

You dey call person Mumu upon your ignorance abi? Make una leave Pastor Righteousness alone for this forum una no one hear? Una no wan hear the
Truth. Make i use Oraimo cord wire you?

Back to Topic.

Abortion is murder. Of course it is a guise of the establishment and those caught up in the matrix will kick against anti abortion.

Preacher is just a title the real man is within.

In addition, every abortion is a sacrifice to moloch, a demonic god. Also, Leviticus 18:21 - “Do not permit any of your children to be offered as a sacrifice to Molech, for you must not bring shame on the name of your God. I am the LORD.

ProudNigerian01:
But really if you don't have the power to give life, why should you take it?

Stay away from fornication, the number 1 cause of unwanted pregnancy.

Imagine committing two great sins before God (Fornication and murder) and then expecting things to be well for you.

God loves you but hates your sin. Your sin creates a barrier between you and the Holy One of Israel.

Isa.59.2 - But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.

However if you have committed such sins or any other, God is willing to clean your slate only if you repent and ask for mercy.

1John.1.9 - If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Prayer:
Father I acknowledge all my sins (name them). Have mercy on me and become Lord of my life again in Jesus name. Amen.

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If the preacher was to be a black man, the comments would have taken a different turn like "No wonder the black man is backward", "Send him to Africa to practice his backwardness", and many other senile comments.

I guess many opened this thread hoping to see a black man but were disappointed, which has turned the comments to America This, America That.

ProudNigerian01:
But really if you don't have the power to give life, why should you take it?

Stay away from fornication, the number 1 cause of unwanted pregnancy.

Imagine committing two great sins before God (Fornication and murder) and then expecting things to be well for you.

God loves you but hates your sin. Your sin creates a barrier between you and the Holy One of Israel.

Isa.59.2 - But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.

However if you have committed such sins or any other, God is willing to clean your slate only if you repent and ask for mercy.

1John.1.9 - If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Prayer:
Father I acknowledge all my sins (name them). Have mercy on me and become Lord of my life again in Jesus name. Amen.

How about if a lady was raped and gets pregnant.
What would you advise?

Leave the baby to be born as a bastard?
In which case the baby will/might never get raised under a father figure, with no man (being his father) being responsible for him. Hence giving an occasion for eternal pains for bothe the child and the mother, who got pregnant not of her own desire or volition.

Or give consent for the I'll conceived baby to be terminated?

NB:
Before you say, the woman ought to have gone to the hospital to wash out the semen after the rape incident.
I have heard of a similar situation,where despite taking this proactive measure, the woman still got pregnant.

mobileboy:
correct

there are too many babies out there with no care, don't increase the population if you won't care for them

Anyone who thinks otherwise should first adopt all the abandoned babies in Nigeria and take care of them,

not proposing how to increase kids but silent on plans to care for them

they are proposing on how to kill unborn kids but not proposing how to stop people from having indiscriminate sex that results in unwanted pregnancies

NOwazobia:
If the preacher was to be a black man, the comments would have taken a different turn like "No wonder the black man is backward", "Send him to Africa to practice his backwardness", and many other senile comments.

I guess many opened this thread hoping to see a black man but were disappointed, which has turned the comments to America This, America That.

you are blessed

People wey dey always talk of sane society where una dey, no freedom of expression again in UK, are they still sane or insane?

theamazonguru:


How about if a lady was raped and gets pregnant.
What would you advise?

Leave the baby to be born as a bastard?
In which case the baby will/might never get raised under a father figure, with no man (being his father) being responsible for him. Hence giving an occasion for eternal pains for bothe the child and the mother, who got pregnant not of her own desire or volition.

Or give consent for the I'll conceived baby to be terminated?

NB:
Before you say, the woman ought to have gone to the hospital to wash out the semen after the rape incident.
I have heard of a similar situation,where despite taking this proactive measure, the woman still got pregnant.

1.We should stop referring to children born of rape as bastards. At the end, they are innocent, and they know nothing. They can still grow up and contribute to society. If someone insists on calling them bastard, that person is a joker and a i'dt.

2.Washing out semen? LOL does not work. Them semen so fast, so quick. Plus...we got postinor. Administered within 2-3 days, works every time.

lexy2014:


they are proposing on how to kill unborn kids but not proposing how to stop people from having indiscriminate sex that results in unwanted pregnancies

We both know they are doing that too

They give condom out for free, give so many pregnancy preventive stuff, but most religious people still kick against it

Apart from giving birth to kids without care most people against abortion really don't care about the baby

Government should force babies born out of coercion on the people who campaign against abortion, simple as abc

Two wrong don't make a right

They are pregnant ... wrong one
Been forced to have the baby even if it means the baby will have no care ... wrong 2

If you think otherwise government should force the baby on you, period

Most of the countries in Europe are going through aging population.

Their young aren't given birth or getting married again

They now rely on migration to get their countries running

With time, they'll regret their actions.

They make family life difficult to attain but sex so easy and free to access even for underaged children.

With time, they'll all die off

Italy is already having multiple ghost cities .

abhosts:
When we try to explain to Africans say [b]Oyinbo nations are now in a post-religion era, this is what we mean. Let your religious persuasions dictate your personal decisions and leave others to their freewill and conscience. Or would God send this man to hell because others are aborting their offspring? Nobody send your 'the bible says' talk for that side[/b]

Thank God you said "that side". You're somewhere in your village spouting unfounded gibberish! Who told you that? Go there! The churches are full. The stadia are packed.

Even the high and mighty that aren't Christians are involved in some rituals or so.

The only thing you can truthfully say is that the devil has watered down their convictions by planting falsehood.

Procashtips:
Most of the countries in Europe are going through aging population.

Their young aren't given birth or getting married again

They now rely on migration to get their countries running

With time, they'll regret their actions.

They make family life difficult to attain but sex so easy and free to access even for underaged children.

With time, they'll all die off

Italy is already having multiple ghost cities .

Reason why young are not giving birth is because it is quite expensive to do childcare or bring up a family over there,

Funny you should mention Italy. Italy has a serious youth unemployment crisis. NOt enough jobs for young people...so many of them japa to other European countries. Even those that read sane courses like medicine ...job dey problematic. SO with all that, how would a young italian get money to marry and bring up a family. Some of them even live with their parents because no affordable housing self.

As a country gets developed, it becomes more expensive to marry and bring up kids.

nairalanda1:


Reason why young are not giving birth is because it is quite expensive to do childcare or bring up a family over there,

Funny you should mention Italy. Italy has a serious youth unemployment crisis. NOt enough jobs for young people...so many of them japa to other European countries. Even those that read sane courses like medicine ...job dey problematic. SO with all that, how would a young italian get money to marry and bring up a family. Some of them even live with their parents because no affordable housing self.

As a country gets developed, it becomes more expensive to marry and bring up kids.

You're confirming what I'm saying ..

They are putting up too many anti-family policies but they have money to sponsor wars all over the world.

Demon's are running the world right now

CheedyJ:
Western world indeed, almost a zero ounce of morality all in the name of 'Rights'.

So what have been the gains of your morality - poverty, wickedness and corruption? Its only in your 100 ton morality world that children are raped, people killed for money ritual and kidnapping is the most lucrative business venture.

Meanwhile it's these places with zero ounce of morality that most of us are willing to japa to.

abhosts:
When we try to explain to Africans say Oyinbo nations are now in a post-religion era, this is what we mean. Let your religious persuasions dictate your personal decisions and leave others to their freewill and conscience. Or would God send this man to hell because others are aborting their offspring? Nobody send your 'the bible says' talk for that side

It's not about religion it's about fundamental human rights. He has a right to stand out there with that sign as long as he's not physically stopping anyone from going to commit the abortion, or insulting the abortionist.

Procashtips:


You're confirming what I'm saying ..

They are putting up too many anti-family policies but they have money to sponsor wars all over the world.

Demon's are running the world right now

While many governments may not be too pro-family...the problem is, removing politics, cost of living is going up in Western countries. The amount of money you need to bring up your child is far more than what your father would have spent.

You need both parents working to earn an income to pay for mortgage and cars, and electronics, and all sorts of things. You need income for childcare since mummy has to work because they need the extra income. You need money for school..now more costly, you need money for electronics child would use, you need internet money, and money for extra school activites. All add up, and all cost.

Some european governments try by throwing in free money for familes. Outside Europe, SOuth Korea since 2005 has had a system of financial aid for young families. Even so, governments cannot do nothing about the cost of living.

The government in charge in Italy is right wing, and probably more pro-family than usual...but they cannot do much.

Same thing in most developed countries. SOuth Korea has had pro-family financial aid for 19 years..populaiton still falling. China has long ended one child policy..population declining. Japan under Abe had more and more money for families...child numbers still falling. Same thing around Europe. Cost is rising, not enough money.

ANd here is the thing...EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WANT MORE CHILDREN...native born. Whatever the government. More children means more tax payers, more money for the elder population's pensions. So, no one can afford anti-family policies. It would be suicide. Immigration is a solution..but immigrants also assimilate and become like the native populatuon, and have fewer kids. Yes, even the Muslims.

It's less anti-family and more that it costs far too much to give a decent level of life to a child in a European country.

abhosts:
When we try to explain to Africans say Oyinbo nations are now in a post-religion era, this is what we mean. Let your religious persuasions dictate your personal decisions and leave others to their freewill and conscience. Or would God send this man to hell because others are aborting their offspring? Nobody send your 'the bible says' talk for that side

You are talking rubbish! The west is on a very fast decline, the day they left their God, was the day it started. When Christians were in power in places like San Fransisco, the whole place was good and serene. When Rudi Gulliani was mayor of New York, despite suffering a dastardly attack from the muslims, the city stood very strong. But since the so called post religion people took over, the city has become a 5hithole! Comparable to third world countries. Filth can be seen everywhere, druggies high on all manner of substances are everywhere. same for San Fransisco, and every democrat run hell hole. London, is now being run by a muslim, that place too is fast desending to hell.

Righteousness2:
No matter how they try to Fine or arrest the Preacher, Abortion is Murder. Abortion is evil. Abortion is against GOD and His word.

Bible Truth could be bitter.
Bible Truth could hurt you.
Bible Truth could make you angry.

But , The Truth from the Bible will save your soul.

No matter how angry and bitter you are when you see or hear the Truth of God's word,
Humble yourself , digest it and do the needful.

Your Soul in Eternity is more important than any other thing.
Heaven and Hell are real. When we turn our hearts and back from the Truth of God's word we are turning ourselves to Hell fire.

Oga rest! Bybull is a story book, an allegory. No one take the bybull serious again like you think. Even the UK govt know that the bybull is a weapon of mass destruction of the African continent. That is why you think like this. You can't reason or type your view logically except taking resort to the bible to spew gibberish byblical writings. What a miseducation of a negro!


Tueh!

mobileboy:


We both know they are doing that too

They give condom out for free, give so many pregnancy preventive stuff, but most religious people still kick against it

Apart from giving birth to kids without care most people against abortion really don't care about the baby

Government should force babies born out of coercion on the people who campaign against abortion, simple as abc

Two wrong don't make a right

They are pregnant ... wrong one
Been forced to have the baby even if it means the baby will have no care ... wrong 2

If you think otherwise government should force the baby on you, period

who are the "we" that both know?

know what?

which religious people are kicking against condoms?

how is religious people kicking against condoms the reason for promiscuity and the reason for people carrying out abortions for unwanted pregnancies?

if religious people kicking against condoms is greatly adhered as you are trying to make us believe, why then is religious people kicking against abortion not being adhered to?

LuckyKeys1:
No matter how you cover the truth, the truth is always the truth.
God will definitely release the preacher

What is Truth?

nairalanda1:


While many governments may not be too pro-family...the problem is, removing politics, cost of living is going up in Western countries. The amount of money you need to bring up your child is far more than what your father would have spent.

You need both parents working to earn an income to pay for mortgage and cars, and electronics, and all sorts of things. You need income for childcare since mummy has to work because they need the extra income. You need money for school..now more costly, you need money for electronics child would use, you need internet money, and money for extra school activites. All add up, and all cost.

Some european governments try by throwing in free money for familes. Outside Europe, SOuth Korea since 2005 has had a system of financial aid for young families. Even so, governments cannot do nothing about the cost of living.

The government in charge in Italy is right wing, and probably more pro-family than usual...but they cannot do much.

Same thing in most developed countries. SOuth Korea has had pro-family financial aid for 19 years..populaiton still falling. China has long ended one child policy..population declining. Japan under Abe had more and more money for families...child numbers still falling. Same thing around Europe. Cost is rising, not enough money.

ANd here is the thing...EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WANT MORE CHILDREN...native born. Whatever the government. More children means more tax payers, more money for the elder population's pensions. So, no one can afford anti-family policies. It would be suicide. Immigration is a solution..but immigrants also assimilate and become like the native populatuon, and have fewer kids. Yes, even the Muslims.

It's less anti-family and more that it costs far too much to give a decent level of life to a child in a European country.

Is the government not the reason things are going out of hand?

You can't be an extreme capitalist Nation and not expect to have what's going on right now

Emu4life:

You dey caution people wey give you Bible.... Mumu

I tire for the guy ooo🤣🤣🤣

Dem give am story book, e dey call am word of god. As if anyone dob see god before. Dem pulpit hustlers go dey talk for pulpit after hallucinating that god dey speak to them. Àwọn oníyẹ̀yẹ́ god of men🤣🤣🤣

Procashtips:


Is the government not the reason things are going out of hand?

You can't be an extreme capitalist Nation and not expect to have what's going on right now

Am all.for socialism, but the problem is, you need to pay a high tax rate or do it as the communists do it, and run a high debt in the process that would crash your economy.

The reason why capitalism is in vogue is because people like being paid, and paid well.

cocoduck:
You are talking rubbish! The west is on a very fast decline, the day they left their God, was the day it started. When Christians were in power in places like San Fransisco, the whole place was good and serene. When Rudi Gulliani was mayor of New York, despite suffering a dastardly attack from the muslims, the city stood very strong. But since the so called post religion people took over, the city has become a 5hithole! Comparable to third world countries. Filth can be seen everywhere, druggies high on all manner of substances are everywhere. same for San Fransisco, and every democrat run hell hole. London, is now being run by a muslim, that place too is fast desending to hell.

You have been brainwashed. It is fine to have religious convictions but there is no correlation between religion and nation building. The greatest economic marvel of the 21st century is China. You think their prosperity came about by prayer and fasting?

ProudNigerian01:
But really if you don't have the power to give life, why should you take it?

But every cell, organism or creature on earth has life. That mosquito you are killing, that asun you are consuming, even that mango you are eating, all has life. To make matters worse, your sperm which you waste in tens of million each time you release is the smallest unit (half)of human life. The egg which the woman shed each month is the other half of human life.
Life is a cycle of life and death. In fact everything in the universe is a cycle of life and death. The death of one person, one specie, one planet, one solar system or even one galaxy has no noticeable effect on the universe.

Stay away from fornication, the number 1 cause of unwanted pregnancy.

Fornication and unwanted pregnancy is the evolutionary mechanism with which species ensures their survival. If a specie leave sex purely to the issue of choice and will instead of instinct, that specie will soon become extinct.

Imagine committing two great sins before God (Fornication and murder) and then expecting things to be well for you.

Una God no get work. He is either a pervert or a narcissist.

God loves you but hates your sin. Your sin creates a barrier between you and the Holy One of Israel.

Abortion is legal (well regulated in Israel). Pregnancies from incest, rape, teens or where the womans health is at risk are aborted.

nairalanda1:


Am all.for socialism, but the problem is, you need to pay a high tax rate or do it as the communists do it, and run a high debt in the process that would crash your economy.

The reason why capitalism is in vogue is because people like being paid, and paid well.

What Europe need is a mix. Not the extreme of both ends

With that, there's going to be a balance.

Human want is insatiable but needs can be controlled.

What if having the baby will cost the life of mother or even both sometimes? That's for legally married couple

We've heard of some cases as this.
Is abortion still not allowed?

Righteousness2:
No matter how they try to Fine or arrest the Preacher, Abortion is Murder. Abortion is evil. Abortion is against GOD and His word.

Bible Truth could be bitter.
Bible Truth could hurt you.
Bible Truth could make you angry.

But , The Truth from the Bible will save your soul.

No matter how angry and bitter you are when you see or hear the Truth of God's word,
Humble yourself , digest it and do the needful.

Your Soul in Eternity is more important than any other thing.
Heaven and Hell are real. When we turn our hearts and back from the Truth of God's word we are turning ourselves to Hell fire.

Lock him into prison and throw away the key. The same Bible that was used to brainwashed us into modern slaves in Africa.