BlueRayDick:
Sorry for the laugh

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Kqp3QNVMt/?igsh=MXUzeTl4MHZqdjN3NQ==

GloriousGbola:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlhSnRk21E

buff ryders

izzou:


I swear.

I went to so many places in January. Places i never knew. Vehicles that i wasn't sure of their condition.

This life....

This reminds me of Kobe's death

raumdeuter:
Drop Kroos with Pep...

Yes we did and Madrid crushed Bayern 5-0 home and away. Peps worst CL loss

Without Kroos Bayern won the CL

That world cup final, Kroos biggest impact was that wayward pass to Higuain which sent hundreds of German supporters into heart attack mode

Since Schweinsteiger and others retired and Kroos was handed the German midfield, na embarrassment

Android17:
You don't need to rob Peter to pay Paul. Xavi is better than Kroos but Kroos is one of the greatest midfielders of all times. You don't stay in Bayern and RM this long and be average. Our issue generally is in assuming any player that is not considered in GOAT debates should be rendered useless or we are a tad too radical in our player to player comparisons that we amplify the worst attributes of any player we want to say is inferior to our preferred.

Yaya Toure does not have to become rubbish because I want to say KDB is City's best ever player. Same way Kroos does not have to be scum for Xavi to be better. Xavi is objectively better because he revolutionized the CM role and showed more leadership and peak consistency but Kroos was a necessary part of a European dynasty that started from his WYC 2007 days in the German National team, playing finals of many FIFA, UEFA and I think Olympic games to Bayern's winningnest team, to RMs most successful UEFA CL team. Kroos typifies the much famed German precision and accuracy. He was a 96 at his peak but played at 82-91 for any other season than his peak while Xavi was a peak 100 who also had 70-ranked years atleast in his earlier career days. In other words Xavi's highs outstrip Kroos' but so does his low. We should be cognizant of this.

Ibime:


Real Madrid talks

If Xavi and Zidane play midfield in their prime, Zidane won't even see ball

DissTroy:


Ironically, the same website you quoted posited Kroos isn't fit to lace Xavi's boots, while calling Xavi "the engine room".

https://therealchamps.com/2017/05/28/toni-kroos-hardly-xavis-heir-xabi-alonsos-heir/

How about that for a reply? Shooting you with your own gun.

Ibime:


Real Madrid talks

If Xavi and Zidane play midfield in their prime, Zidane won't even see ball

BlueRayDick:


Na anecdotal evidences like " highest chances created " we go chop ? Did he create the most assists in a World Cup winning team in Germany and Champions league winning team in Madrid ?

Na him be Ororo wey dey score the goals ? Na him be Ramos ?

All this ur chances created superstory, I believe none moved Ballon D'or and FIFA to place him above Kroos at any point in their respective careers. For ur information Xavi made Ballon D'or 3rd place 3 times in his career and na him gamesmanship place him there.

Like I said earlier , I just like to create argument out of thin air for fun. Xavi and Kroos were never close .

liveLongNprospa:


What is your expectation of Toni Kroos if you have him in your team?
If you are using fifa awards for Kroos then I will not argue with you because Kroos in the last couple of years doesn't even get featured on fifa because he has called them out.
Everybody knows this but it seems I will have to educate you.

TrebleChamp:
This Xavi is who Prosper is comparing to Kroos, this Controller-General in Chief of Midfield.
This disrespect deserve punishment


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfHhhyWAUZE?si=lOEW5Aa7R_QlWt7s

Melvyn11:
Somebody already explained that Madrid don't care about possession football yet you are still bringing possession stats to prove a non existent point. Go and check how many possession battle Xabi Alonso lost himself while at Madrid. Bring your Xavi to Madrid and the same thing would have happened.

raumdeuter:


That's why you mind who you compare players with
No matter how good Neymar is when you try to bring him and compare to Messi you will meet with ridicule
No matter how much your Range Rover dey shack you, don't bring it to a Rolls Royce
Whoever brought Kroos into a Xavi comparison obviously didn't mean well for him. He for let Kroos dey him dey. And leave Xavi alone

Kroos wey never touch Modric you dey bring Xavi

Some players are untouchables and Xavi might just be one of them.

While Xavi was the core and the engine of the finest and probably greatest football side that was ever assembled Kroos was another member of the team

When you mention that Barcelona side, after Messi next is Xavi,
That Spain side that won 3 tpurnaments in a row between 2008 and 2012, Xavi was the best player.
there is no winning side Kroos was part of that he will be among the top 3 most important probably will struggle to make top 5.
Or tell me which of the teams Kroos won with will the most biased Kroos fan name him any side where he was the best player and they won?

That three peat Madrid Ronaldo Marcelo Modric Ramos Casemiro were more important, in 2013 Bayern Neuer Lahm.Boateng Schweinsteiger Alaba Robben Muller Ribery were all more important
Actually Kroos getting injured was a blessing which enabled Bayern to adopt a more counter attacking approach from the quarter finals and win the trophy

The German team that won too, Neuer Lahm Boateng Schweinsteiger Muller were more important

By the time the core of that German team retired and it was Kroos turn to lead them it was back to back embarrassment

While Xavis career wasn't entirely great all through especially younger Kroos too had patches. He was loaned out to Leverkusen to get game time when he was young

Lesson of this is if you don't want some dragging of your fave don't enter the rings with the gods

Don't let the case of Kroos be like the Nwanza bird who ate belleful and challenged his Chi to a fight

In modern day CM, Xavi is the Chi to Kroos

When you measure greatness most are more concerned about your highs and peaks not your valleys and lows. Albert Einstein is considered the greatest scientist because of his peak not that he was considered a poor student in primary school

Mohamed Alli had lows when he lost bouts but he is still considered the heavyweight GOAT because his highs

Ibime:


For posterity

In Xavis most dominant passing season in laliga, he averaged 124 passes per game at 95% success rate

In Kroos most dominant passing season in laliga, he averaged 83 passes per game at 93% success rate

Don't talk this thing outside again.

Xavi is the nigga that sucks the oxygen out of any midfield battle. He never allowed dem breeeeeeeeevve

BlueRayDick:


See this one o; he's looking for escape route after comparing legend to regulars. So what happened to the years before he called FIFA out ?

We are still waiting for u to point out one single tournament triumph Kroos' teams had and Kroos was one of their best 3 players . We Dey wait because u need to explain to us how a player who u claim to be so good on the world scene would not even be one of his own team's top 3 players . Make it make sense na.

Android17:
You don't need to rob Peter to pay Paul. Xavi is better than Kroos but Kroos is one of the greatest midfielders of all times. You don't stay in Bayern and RM this long and be average. Our issue generally is in assuming any player that is not considered in GOAT debates should be rendered useless or we are a tad too radical in our player to player comparisons that we amplify the worst attributes of any player we want to say is inferior to our preferred.

Yaya Toure does not have to become rubbish because I want to say KDB is City's best ever player. Same way Kroos does not have to be scum for Xavi to be better. Xavi is objectively better because he revolutionized the CM role and showed more leadership and peak consistency but Kroos was a necessary part of a European dynasty that started from his WYC 2007 days in the German National team, playing finals of many FIFA, UEFA and I think Olympic games to Bayern's winningnest team, to RMs most successful UEFA CL team. Kroos typifies the much famed German precision and accuracy. He was a 96 at his peak but played at 82-91 for any other season than his peak while Xavi was a peak 100 who also had 70-ranked years atleast in his earlier career days. In other words Xavi's highs outstrip Kroos' but so does his low. We should be cognizant of this.

izzou:
Kroos doesn't play in a possession based team

Then you went ahead to compare, and even rate him over someone that plays in a possession based team.

Ehn, Prosper?

TrebleChamp:
Xavi will play Modric and Kroos role and play it better at Madrid, Kroos is a very exceptional midfielder, but comparing him to the god of midfield, the Controller-General in chief of midfield is an insult. Like Raumdeuter said, choose wisely who you compare your fav player with.

liveLongNprospa:

I'm sorry who was our 3 best players when we won the UCL in 2022?
Who was German's top 3 best player during the 2014 world cup?
Who was our top 3 best player when we won la liga in 2019?
Who was our top 3 best player when we won la liga, UCL, super copa and cwc in 2022?

How well do you watch our games?
If I ask you yesterday who were the top 3 best players against girona, who would you mention?

liveLongNprospa:


What is your expectation of Toni Kroos if you have him in your team?
If you are using fifa awards for Kroos then I will not argue with you because Kroos in the last couple of years doesn't even get featured on fifa because he has called them out.
Everybody knows this but it seems I will have to educate you.

BlueRayDick:


I didn't watch Madrid vs Girona yesterday so I'm in no position to judge the highest performers in the game.

Shebi u are a Madrid fan , oya name the top 3 performers in the Madrid side of 2022, I want to check something .

The fact that u think Kroos was one of the top 3 performers for Germany in the 2014 World Cup shows u no know ball as much as u think u do.

liveLongNprospa:


Bros each team has their football philosophy.
It shows just how great Kroos is.
He still is a high volume passer while maintaining a minimum of 90% degree of success year in year out.
Check the number of passes madrid makes each year against Barcelona (in terms of total oo not vs) and check who is responsible for the number.
Take out Kroos and that number deeps for madrid.

Without xavi, the tiki taka went on for years.
Like Ibime would note, iniesta leaving caused the tiki taka to start dying

BlueRayDick:


I didn't watch Madrid vs Girona yesterday so I'm in no position to judge the highest performers in the game.

Shebi u are a Madrid fan , oya name the top 3 performers in the Madrid side of 2022, I want to check something .

The fact that u think Kroos was one of the top 3 performers for Germany in the 2014 World Cup shows u no know ball as much as u think u do.

PS : I am willing to bring player ratings for each games in each of the two competitions aforementioned.

monerozi5590:


You should have asked him who created the most assists for Germany in that 2014 World Cup winning team.