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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:43am On Feb 17, 2024
daveP:
Are you saying that the coach is very aware that Kai is not expected to finish 1v1 or big chances? He doesn't need to play that position to score either(false or actual cf)
Every coach would want any player to score 1v1

But if that's not his primary role, then it cannot be used against him. Besides many top strikers have missed 1v1 including Haaland on several occasions.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:02am On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
Both maybe under physical or technical.
But Cerebral? No. They're not the brain of the team as you claimed. Replace them with Tomiyasu and Jesus and we will still be fine. Those are not the kind of players you termed as cerebral.
We will be fine, but have you asked yourself why Arteta will always play White and Kai? That's because they make the game easier for others.

Meanwhile that I said they are cerebral players does not necessarily interpret to mean that they are the brain of the team. I have also stated that some players I consider physical or technical may be more cerebral than some considered as cerebral. For example, you may be a carpenter and I a mechanic. But you may know the mechanic work more than myself.

The keyboardist in the band may be a better drummer than the drummer himself. But the reason why he is in the band is to play the keyboard and not the drum. I used to be part of a musical band where one guy knows all the instruments more than every other person playing whatever. He is the pianist but is better than the bassist, better than the drummer, better than the lead guitarist etc.

So when I say White is cerebral it does not necessarily mean that he is more cerebral than Rice for example even though by my assessment he actually is.

Let's compare Rice, Partey and Jorginho (the highest gets max points as the standard guage)

On physicality
Rice 10, Partey 7 Jorginho 3

On technicality
Partey 10 Rice 8 Jorginho 5

On intelligence (cerebral)
Jorginho 10 Partey 7 Rice 7

From here you will see that Rice and Partey are more balanced in their skillset than Jorginho but if you need a cerebral player you call on Jorginho.

Have you noticed that Arteta always uses Jorginho against big teams like Man City or Liverpool where his brain is needed more?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:08am On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
Wait, You're claiming it's a hypothetical skillset? Like you are watching something and you're still doing hypothesis in something we all are observing?
And same you still claim it's personal and when you wanted to start your article you started with :
"There are three categories of skills for footballers. They are physical, technical and cerebral"

Imagine you stating the above in italics and still claim it's hypothetical and personal.


You're not serious Spy. I no dey argue hypothetical and personal things.

How you want make I argue 1+1= 11 with you when it's your own personal calculation.

When you bring something that's general instead of personal and you bring something that's observatory instead of hypothetical we can have a discussion.

Gracias!!
I don't understand what you mean in the bolded because both are part of the same process. It's like asking me to make omelette but I shouldn't have broken the eggs. It's from observation that you generate hypothesis. Why I said it is personal is because I didn't read it anywhere. Ii came from my head. After all whatever you will bring must have sometime originated from some body's head. Are you jealous of my hypothesis?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 7:25am On Feb 17, 2024
I was watching epl compilation videos of haaland
It always a disaster for defenders to go shoulder to shoulder when on one on one
Even our own gabu collect last season, but guess what
The only defender that have succeeded is our rolls royce 2 times this season but not without a big fight
IMO the best way to handle such beast like haaland is to take him down to avoid one on one situation
He's like a viking or dorkati warrior
Very dominance
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:53am On Feb 17, 2024
Spy360:
I don't understand what you mean in the bolded because both are part of the same process. It's like asking me to make omelette but I shouldn't have broken the eggs. It's from observation that you generate hypothesis. Why I said it is personal is because I didn't read it anywhere. Ii came from my head. After all whatever you will bring must have sometime originated from some body's head. Are you jealous of my hypothesis?
You can write this statement below as hypothesis;

"There are three categories of skills for footballers. They are physical, technical and cerebral"

You can't say Saka is the hand of arsenal while Saliba is the bone of Arsenal then claim it's a hypothesis.

Hypothesis in football terms simply means speculation or preview. In order words, it's something that hasn't happened yet but due to past data or information, you believe this will happen

For example, If you give reasons why you feel/think someone like Havertz will shine for arsenal before he was bought here and reasons why Arteta needs him, that itself is a hypothesis.

All what you're saying since and all what we've been talking about are information that have ALREADY happened or is presently happening. And categorising skills is never termed hypothesis.

You can't say Odegaard is a very good Am, then claim it's a hypothesis. That's a fact through OBSERVATIONS.

Just thank me for the lecture this morning.

Like I said earlier, when you're ready to talk away from hypothesis in this brain, hand and leg matter, then let's discuss.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 8:58am On Feb 17, 2024
I just say make I tell una say our defense has conceded the least goal(22) in the EPL this season .

Fans like Iamoyindamola and kokane of blessed memory should apologise to Gabriel for slating his purchase while Mustafi and papasthapopulous were binned o.🚶‍♂️
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:03am On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
I was watching epl compilation videos of haaland
It always a disaster for defenders to go shoulder to shoulder when on one on one
Even our own gabu collect last season, but guess what
The only defender that have succeeded is our rolls royce 2 times this season but not without a big fight
IMO the best way to handle such beast like haaland is to take him down to avoid one on one situation
He's like a viking or dorkati warrior
Very dominance
One needs to be very strong for Haaland not to successfully body such person. If you see how Saliba bodied Haaland in our 1-0 win with the latter falling, you'll know say no be anyhow person Saliba be.

Na only two people I'm sure Haaland no fit do that nonsense. Van Dijk and Saliba
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 9:04am On Feb 17, 2024
BlueRayDick:
I just say make I tell una say our defense has conceded the least goal(22) in the EPL this season .

Fans like Iamoyindamola and kokane of blessed memory should apologise to Gabriel for slating his purchase while Mustafi and papasthapopulous were binned o.🚶‍♂️
We also conceded less last season until saliba got injured and we started conceding and almost level on number of goals Chelsea conceded

Una dan start again abi
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:04am On Feb 17, 2024
BlueRayDick:
I just say make I tell una say our defense has conceded the least goal(22) in the EPL this season .

Fans like Iamoyin.damola and kokane of blessed memory should apologise to Gabriel for slating his purchase while Mustafi and papasthapopulous were binned o.🚶‍♂️
He was even nominated for January player of the month sef grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 10:08am On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
We also conceded less last season until saliba got injured and we started conceding and almost level on number of goals Chelsea conceded

Una dan start again abi
Swallow ur pride my bro . Saliba didn't do it alone, he did it with Gabriel's partnership . They make a good team.

Saliba with Mustafi or Papasthapopulous would've ended in disaster . Almost everybody wey know ball dey rate Gabriel now
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 10:10am On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
He was even nominated for January player of the month sef grin
Himslef and Saliba partnership has saved us a lot of wailings.

I don't want to remmeber the dark days of Papasthapopulous - Mustafi CB partnership .
That bastar.d Mustafi will now be pointing with passion after chopping dribble 😂😂😂
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Unlimited22: 10:12am On Feb 17, 2024
BlueRayDick:
Himslef and Saliba partnership has saved us a lot of wailings.

I don't want to remmeber the dark days of Papasthapopulous - Mustafi CB partnership .
That bastar.d Mustafi will now be pointing with passion after chopping dribble 😂😂😂
Omo even as a rival fan, Mustafi was a clown 🤣🤣
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 10:14am On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
I was watching epl compilation videos of haaland
It always a disaster for defenders to go shoulder to shoulder when on one on one
Even our own gabu collect last season, but guess what
The only defender that have succeeded is our rolls royce 2 times this season but not without a big fight
IMO the best way to handle such beast like haaland is to take him down to avoid one on one situation
He's like a viking or dorkati warrior
Very dominance
That's why I fear him. Man is a bully not a footballer. I wonder what his diet looks like. Saliba really tried eh... He tamed him in that match.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 10:17am On Feb 17, 2024
Unlimited22:
Omo even as a rival fan, Mustafi was a clown 🤣🤣
Mustafi and Kolasinac were literally chased out by egg-pelting angry fans of Schalke 04 after they successfully relegated the club on leaving arsenal grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 10:18am On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
One needs to be very strong for Haaland not to successfully body such person. If you see how Saliba bodied Haaland in our 1-0 win with the latter falling, you'll know say no be anyhow person Saliba be.

Na only two people I'm sure Haaland no fit do that nonsense. Van Dijk and Saliba
You know the funniest thing, Saliba doesn't like gym. One of his teammates said it in an interview. He said Saliba doesn't lift too much weight. I think Gabriel and Rice are the one who lift the biggest weight.

VVD no fit handle Haaland. I was even expecting you to mention Konate. No be small Martinelli bullied VVD. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 10:21am On Feb 17, 2024
Spy360:
We will be fine, but have you asked yourself why Arteta will always play White and Kai? That's because they make the game easier for others.

Meanwhile that I said they are cerebral players does not necessarily interpret to mean that they are the brain of the team. I have also stated that some players I consider physical or technical may be more cerebral than some considered as cerebral. For example, you may be a carpenter and I a mechanic. But you may know the mechanic work more than myself.

The keyboardist in the band may be a better drummer than the drummer himself. But the reason why he is in the band is to play the keyboard and not the drum. I used to be part of a musical band where one guy knows all the instruments more than every other person playing whatever. He is the pianist but is better than the bassist, better than the drummer, better than the lead guitarist etc.

So when I say White is cerebral it does not necessarily mean that he is more cerebral than Rice for example even though by my assessment he actually is.

Let's compare Rice, Partey and Jorginho (the highest gets max points as the standard guage)

On physicality
Rice 10, Partey 7 Jorginho 3

On technicality
Partey 10 Rice 8 Jorginho 5

On intelligence (cerebral)
Jorginho 10 Partey 7 Rice 7

From here you will see that Rice and Partey are more balanced in their skillset than Jorginho but if you need a cerebral player you call on Jorginho.

Have you noticed that Arteta always uses Jorginho against big teams like Man City or Liverpool where his brain is needed more?
You clearly said they're the brain of the team sir.

All you typed here are still postulations without proof.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 11:15am On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
One needs to be very strong for Haaland not to successfully body such person. If you see how Saliba bodied Haaland in our 1-0 win with the latter falling, you'll know say no be anyhow person Saliba be.

Na only two people I'm sure Haaland no fit do that nonsense. Van Dijk and Saliba
Funny thing I haven't seen vvd and haaland on such situation
I will be interested in the duel
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 11:17am On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
You know the funniest thing, Saliba doesn't like gym. One of his teammates said it in an interview. He said Saliba doesn't lift too much weight. I think Gabriel and Rice are the one who lift the biggest weight.

VVD no fit handle Haaland. I was even expecting you to mention Konate. No be small Martinelli bullied VVD. grin
Exactly
Vvd way be traffic warden, Baba will rather point to another player to do his work than going to meet haaland
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkforyou(m): 11:40am On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
Gary Neville in March 2023: "I wouldn't be spending £110m or £120m on Declan Rice if I was Manchester United this summer. I would spend £50m-£60m on Declan Rice, but I wouldn't spend the figures being reported because I feel in that position, I still feel like he's got a lot to grow." [@GNev2 via @centredevils]

clown grin
Real clown…I swear.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:34pm On Feb 17, 2024
BlueRayDick:
Himslef and Saliba partnership has saved us a lot of wailings.

I don't want to remmeber the dark days of Papasthapopulous - Mustafi CB partnership .
That bastar.d Mustafi will now be pointing with passion after chopping dribble 😂😂😂
Saliba and Gabriel is the best partnership we've ever gotten since I know arsenal. I don't know about keown/bould cos I never watched them but this two are the best I've known. Na why I deh vex when Arteta been bench Gabu begining of this season.

Anybody wey still no wan give Gabu him flowers just dey do strong head. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:39pm On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
You know the funniest thing, Saliba doesn't like gym. One of his teammates said it in an interview. He said Saliba doesn't lift too much weight. I think Gabriel and Rice are the one who lift the biggest weight.

VVD no fit handle Haaland. I was even expecting you to mention Konate. No be small Martinelli bullied VVD. grin
Hmmm, if the bolded is true then he must have his root from Africa then cos it's not ordinary. Look at Saka strength and see what I mean grin

As for Haaland—konate, you have a great point there cos Konate na another beast grin

But I still doubt Haaland will barge Van Dijk that will make van Dijk fall like small pikin. grin

If you watch that video Sod09 talked about, EVERYBODY he barged fell down. I mean EVERYONE grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:44pm On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Funny thing I haven't seen vvd and haaland on such situation
I will be interested in the duel
I think there's a duel they did in Norway Vs Netherlands where Haaland wanted to barge him and he failed.

I'll try look for that video or clip and see if I can get it
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:46pm On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
You clearly said they're the brain of the team sir.

All you typed here are still postulations without proof.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:12pm On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Funny thing I haven't seen vvd and haaland on such situation
I will be interested in the duel
VVD never bath... Person wey no like making contact. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:14pm On Feb 17, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Exactly
Vvd way be traffic warden, Baba will rather point to another player to do his work than going to meet haaland
As in eh... See that little shove from Martinelli and everywhere scattered. Na Haaland em wan face?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:15pm On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
Hmmm, if the bolded is true then he must have his root from Africa then cos it's not ordinary. Look at Saka strength and see what I mean grin

As for Haaland—konate, you have a great point there cos Konate na another beast grin

But I still doubt Haaland will barge Van Dijk that will make van Dijk fall like small pikin. grin

If you watch that video Sod09 talked about, EVERYBODY he barged fell down. I mean EVERYONE grin
grin grin grin
If Gabriel and Holding (strength wise) can't handle Haaland, na VVD go handle am? I doubt sha..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:15pm On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Na so o. Na that point make me disagree sef... grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:16pm On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
I think there's a duel they did in Norway Vs Netherlands where Haaland wanted to barge him and he failed.

I'll try look for that video or clip and see if I can get it
Then VVD must have received help grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:18pm On Feb 17, 2024
No Ethan and Myles today. Na Sweet and TomTom (Bandeira) Arteta carry go Burnley.

ESR is back but Tomi and Jesus couldn't make it. Vieira and Partey hoping to be fit for Porto clash.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:23pm On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
You clearly said they're the brain of the team sir.

All you typed here are still postulations without proof.
Will you agree with me that Kai Havertz is usually used by Arteta to control the rotational and positional movements of the other players on the pitch?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 3:29pm On Feb 17, 2024
THIS LIVERPOOL game is all you need to conclude how Toney will play if he is the 9 we will be getting.

I've always been on Team NO Toney. I was on NO Vlahovic too.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:34pm On Feb 17, 2024
Jodera:
You can write this statement below as hypothesis;

"There are three categories of skills for footballers. They are physical, technical and cerebral"

You can't say Saka is the hand of arsenal while Saliba is the bone of Arsenal then claim it's a hypothesis.

Hypothesis in football terms simply means speculation or preview. In order words, it's something that hasn't happened yet but due to past data or information, you believe this will happen

For example, If you give reasons why you feel/think someone like Havertz will shine for arsenal before he was bought here and reasons why Arteta needs him, that itself is a hypothesis.

All what you're saying since and all what we've been talking about are information that have ALREADY happened or is presently happening. And categorising skills is never termed hypothesis.

You can't say Odegaard is a very good Am, then claim it's a hypothesis. That's a fact through OBSERVATIONS.

Just thank me for the lecture this morning.

Like I said earlier, when you're ready to talk away from hypothesis in this brain, hand and leg matter, then let's discuss.
Ok. Now I get your ignorance.

Hypothesis can be a speculation in lay man's language, but it does not stop there. It can also be an UNTESTED IDEA THAT HAS BEEN DRAWN FROM OBSERVATIONS. It is part of the scientific process of establishing facts. In other words, it is a fact that has not been proven. It is the second step of establishing facts or theories or principles, the first is OBSERVATION.

Now who is lecturing who? Lol

You are chatting with a research scientist nugga.

Now why I call my idea an hypothesis is because it is not yet proven. That is why I said it is open for objections by anyone. I am not claiming it as facts. But if any body is going to object then that person must do so logically and scientifically. You are neither logical, rational nor scientific. That is why you are arguing about the term 'hypothesis' instead of looking at the ideas I have put forward.

Mostob is sad that I called Saka hands but Havertz brains. Lol. It doesn't mean any is more important, it is just a function of their functions.

F(y)= x
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