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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 6:33pm On Feb 17, 2024
A sizeable percentage of Arsenal fans really love Havertz. The way his goal was celebrated was surprising.

An untamed Odegaard is a dangerous player. Watching this guy slice midfield is orgasmic.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Silentgroper(m): 7:09pm On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
You know the funniest thing, Saliba doesn't like gym. One of his teammates said it in an interview. He said Saliba doesn't lift too much weight. I think Gabriel and Rice are the one who lift the biggest weight.

VVD no fit handle Haaland. I was even expecting you to mention Konate. No be small Martinelli bullied VVD. grin
Wong .. vvd wasn't bullied.. He was trying his possible best to avoid touching the ball and colliding with Allison.. I'd say martinelli noticed that and took advantage of the situation..

If Allison wasn't in the picture.. na martinelli go dey roll for ground after that impact..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Silentgroper(m): 7:13pm On Feb 17, 2024
mostob:
grin grin grin
If Gabriel and Holding (strength wise) can't handle Haaland, na VVD go handle am? I doubt sha..
Lol same Gabriel wey no get stamina ... Holding that wey no fit full match naim you dey compare with vvd .. egbami angry angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by fredoooooo: 9:18pm On Feb 17, 2024
These ones don carry calculator they do mathematics with points and goal difference, as if no be dem go beat themselves comot for the league title when the Assnal syndrome begin.
Assnal will always be Assnal.
Make we carry our mortal out... its time grin cheesy grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 9:47pm On Feb 17, 2024
Towards the end of the first half of the season when Saka was missing chances, I said I wasn’t expecting anything from him then but he’ll be at his best in the second half of the season and Man didn’t disappoint Me.

Boy has been smoking hot this half of the season👍
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 10:56pm On Feb 17, 2024
Comments on Kiwior has been interesting. Very very aware compared to Zinny. Is Arteta tweaking reliance on Zinny inverting by switching that responsibility to White? Or it's just temporary?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 11:09pm On Feb 17, 2024
Saka shouldn't attempt to dye his hair again abeg. Infact, he shouldn't think of such.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m):
daveP:
Comments on Kiwior has been interesting. Very very aware compared to Zinny. Is Arteta tweaking reliance on Zinny inverting by switching that responsibility to White? Or it's just temporary?
We have been playing a flat back 4 with Kiwior since he came in for Zinny against Liverpool. Inverting Kiwior will only complicate things for him, so Arreta is keeping everything simple and it has worked.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 5:09am On Feb 18, 2024
I won't lie kiwi have been solid lately
The fact that some key players are coming back from injury makes this second half of the season interesting
We are close to having our full squad with correct depth
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Lush100(m): 7:43am On Feb 18, 2024
White is inverting into midfield and Kwior is gaining serious confidence on the ball. Still needs to improve.
Kai is doing what Arteta wants him to do.
65M not a waste at all.

It's is when Partey and G. Jesus joins the tram full and fit that will make our bench look well stocked.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:19am On Feb 18, 2024
What a rollercoaster weeks of football this team have served us. We're looking well poised for the challenge been set before us and that's really a good thing.

1. Scoring 21 goals in 5 matches and conceding only two is stuff of champions and to do that in 3 away games is nothing to be joked with. What is even more interesting is that we've allowed just two shots on target in those 5 matches. Wowwwwww!!
Back to back zero shot on target conceded while scoring 11 goals? It just feel un-arsenallike but hey, I'm not complaining grin

2. This Dubai trip seems to do a lot of wonders for us and I'm so glad it came at the right time when we were at our lows. Suddenly no talk of needing a proper Cf amongst our fanbase, cohesion within the team is at an alarming best, our set piece delivery is dope. In fact, it just feels like a new different arsenal compared to the first half of the season.

3. I love the new tweak Arteta have made in finding a system to isolate Saka let him be 1v1 with defenders instead of the normal 2-3vs1 Saka is always suffering from. Now Saka is seen to start from deep before making that darting runs instead of always been hanging out in the wings. The constant fluidity and movement in our frontline helps too. Saka now playing closer to goal infield, Martinelli shuttling between WF and outright Cf, Trossard knowing when to play the CF role and when to drop deep so that Havertz will fill the CF role by making those deep runs which confuses the CBs, White inverting and and helping in our buildup(must be said, he seamlessly took that role like duck to water), Odegaard being Odegaard — pulling the strings with his creativity and vision and Rice doing what he knows best. It must also be said that Raya have been exceptional since the restart of this year. His distribution have been top notch and his confidence at the back is great. Kiwior have been great also since playing the conventional Lb role he's been assigned to but he needs to improve in the attacking 3rd. Not forgetting our two CB dynamos (Gabriel and Saliba)

4. I was surprised about Martinelli first time pass to Odegaard which led to our first goal ystdy. Same thing he did against Man u. I just wish he could be looking up more and giving a certain pass/cross instead of just blindly whipping a hopeful cross anytime he gets to that byline. Trossard and Havertz understanding is something I noticed in this passed two games (various swapping and movement) and I just hope it continues. It not only confuses defenders since they won't know who to mark but it also makes Odegaard to give that defence splitting passes since he can spot runners going in behind defence. Havertz first touch let him down numerous times ystdy and I was hugely surprised cos that's his strongest quality. Happy with his goal cos it's of good quality and long may it continue.
Trossard—Havertz partnership, it'll be interesting to see how it continues when Jesus comes back.

5. Porto away next. Let's go there. I'm feeling more ecstatic than ever. Moreover this team looks more matured and experienced, something we lacked last season. Let's go for the win

COYG!!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera:
mostob:
grin grin grin
If Gabriel and Holding (strength wise) can't handle Haaland, na VVD go handle am? I doubt sha..
Lol, I'll try and see if I will get that video today.
As long as shoulder barging is involved, I doubt Haaland can do Vvd such nonsense

Modified: https://youtube.com/shorts/hXBuKuxO9DI?si=8IQq7qqH9O5h0RrQ

https://youtube.com/shorts/nj68l_j-Fxo?si=pN4lsGNefI5TASeY

https://youtube.com/shorts/MqPFLbhXrqo?si=s1ejeuaSAo3oj9zH

https://youtube.com/shorts/45ezvd7lABQ?si=gCluf7NLN32e3JAT


Mostob, I don bring you plenty evidence grin

You see this shoulder barging wey players go dey fall anyhow, no be with Van Dijk grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:28am On Feb 18, 2024
mostob:
Na so o. Na that point make me disagree sef... grin
Spy just dey use English grasp at straws grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:41am On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
Ok. Now I get your ignorance.

Hypothesis can be a speculation in lay man's language, but it does not stop there. It can also be an UNTESTED IDEA THAT HAS BEEN DRAWN FROM OBSERVATIONS. It is part of the scientific process of establishing facts. In other words, it is a fact that has not been proven. It is the second step of establishing facts or theories or principles, the first is OBSERVATION.


Now why I call my idea an hypothesis is because it is not yet proven.
You clearly said Havertz and White are cerebral players according to how Arteta are USING them.
You clearly said they're the brains of the team.

You said all these because of how they've been playing for arsenal these past few weeks.

How then Is it a hypothesis when the "how" and testing have already happened?

You gave a list of skills, defined them and gave categorised examples with our players under such skills.
How then is it a hypothesis?

I don't care if you're the godfather of research department ooo, but you see this English, you must grab understanding of English first grin

You can't give an analysis, categorisation and examples, bring a review video from 442 as your reference and when you're bursted you turn around to claim hypothesis.

None of us be pikin here na cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:47am On Feb 18, 2024
Spy: Haaland is a defender

Me: No, Haaland is a striker.

Spy: I just gave a hypothesis. It has not yet been proven as fact yet but you need to argue with me that he's a defender cheesy grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by AdisaOwala: 10:48am On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
Ok. Now I get your ignorance.

Hypothesis can be a speculation in lay man's language, but it does not stop there. It can also be an UNTESTED IDEA THAT HAS BEEN DRAWN FROM OBSERVATIONS. It is part of the scientific process of establishing facts. In other words, it is a fact that has not been proven. It is the second step of establishing facts or theories or principles, the first is OBSERVATION.

Now who is lecturing who? Lol

You are chatting with a research scientist nugga.

Now why I call my idea an hypothesis is because it is not yet proven. That is why I said it is open for objections by anyone. I am not claiming it as facts. But if any body is going to object then that person must do so logically and scientifically. You are neither logical, rational nor scientific. That is why you are arguing about the term 'hypothesis' instead of looking at the ideas I have put forward.

Mostob is sad that I called Saka hands but Havertz brains. Lol. It doesn't mean any is more important, it is just a function of their functions.

F(y)= x
Haha

Sp3rm360 don dey drop thesis for here? shocked

Lmao
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:54am On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
Our best partnership is Campbell-Toure. But I believe this Saliba-Gabriel will surpass it. Just as I believe if Saka stays with Arsenal all through his career, he will surpass Henry's records.
True talk
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:57am On Feb 18, 2024
daveP:
THIS LIVERPOOL game is all you need to conclude how Toney will play if he is the 9 we will be getting.

I've always been on Team NO Toney. I was on NO Vlahovic too.
Why do you say so?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:35pm On Feb 18, 2024
daveP:
Lol. Is this an attempt to twist what i typed? So you still couldn't grab what i was getting at? 😂😂😂😂

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:38pm On Feb 18, 2024
AdisaOwala:
Haha

Sp3rm360 don dey drop thesis for here? shocked

Lmao
Say the truth, how did you escape?

I mean from the asylum?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:41pm On Feb 18, 2024
Jodera:
You clearly said Havertz and White are cerebral players according to how Arteta are USING them.
You clearly said they're the brains of the team.

You said all these because of how they've been playing for arsenal these past few weeks.

How then Is it a hypothesis when the "how" and testing have already happened?

You gave a list of skills, defined them and gave categorised examples with our players under such skills.
How then is it a hypothesis?

I don't care if you're the godfather of research department ooo, but you see this English, you must grab understanding of English first grin

You can't give an analysis, categorisation and examples, bring a review video from 442 as your reference and when you're bursted you turn around to claim hypothesis.

None of us be pikin here na cheesy
I can't even get a hold of what you are saying.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:46pm On Feb 18, 2024
Roland17:
We have been playing a flat back 4 with Kiwior since he came in for Zinny against Liverpool. Inverting Kiwior will only complicate things for him, so Arreta is keeping everything simple and it has worked.
No. It has not been a simple flat back four. White has been inverting from RB, exactly what Partey did at the start of the season. At least give the rookie some credit.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:56pm On Feb 18, 2024
Jodera:
What a rollercoaster weeks of football this team have served us. We're looking well poised for the challenge been set before us and that's really a good thing.

1. Scoring 21 goals in 5 matches and conceding only two is stuff of champions and to do that in 3 away games is nothing to be joked with. What is even more interesting is that we've allowed just two shots on target in those 5 matches. Wowwwwww!!
Back to back zero shot on target conceded while scoring 11 goals? It just feel un-arsenallike but hey, I'm not complaining grin

2. This Dubai trip seems to do a lot of wonders for us and I'm so glad it came at the right time when we were at our lows. Suddenly no talk of needing a proper Cf amongst our fanbase, cohesion within the team is at an alarming best, our set piece delivery is dope. In fact, it just feels like a new different arsenal compared to the first half of the season.

3. I love the new tweak Arteta have made in finding a system to isolate Saka let him be 1v1 with defenders instead of the normal 2-3vs1 Saka is always suffering from. Now Saka is seen to start from deep before making that darting runs instead of always been hanging out in the wings. The constant fluidity and movement in our frontline helps too. Saka now playing closer to goal infield, Martinelli shuttling between WF and outright Cf, Trossard knowing when to play the CF role and when to drop deep so that Havertz will fill the CF role by making those deep runs which confuses the CBs, White inverting and and helping in our buildup(must be said, he seamlessly took that role like duck to water), Odegaard being Odegaard — pulling the strings with his creativity and vision and Rice doing what he knows best. It must also be said that Raya have been exceptional since the restart of this year. His distribution have been top notch and his confidence at the back is great. Kiwior have been great also since playing the conventional Lb role he's been assigned to but he needs to improve in the attacking 3rd. Not forgetting our two CB dynamos (Gabriel and Saliba)

4. I was surprised about Martinelli first time pass to Odegaard which led to our first goal ystdy. Same thing he did against Man u. I just wish he could be looking up more and giving a certain pass/cross instead of just blindly whipping a hopeful cross anytime he gets to that byline. Trossard and Havertz understanding is something I noticed in this passed two games (various swapping and movement) and I just hope it continues. It not only confuses defenders since they won't know who to mark but it also makes Odegaard to give that defence splitting passes since he can spot runners going in behind defence. Havertz first touch let him down numerous times ystdy and I was hugely surprised cos that's his strongest quality. Happy with his goal cos it's of good quality and long may it continue.
Trossard—Havertz partnership, it'll be interesting to see how it continues when Jesus comes back.

5. Porto away next. Let's go there. I'm feeling more ecstatic than ever. Moreover this team looks more matured and experienced, something we lacked last season. Let's go for the win

COYG!!!
You make plenty sense here I no just fit object to any.

That's impressive. Keep it up
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:04pm On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
You make plenty sense here I no just fit object to any.

That's impressive. Keep it up
I dey always make sense, I'm surprised you're seeing it today tongue tongue
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:05pm On Feb 18, 2024
mostob:
Every player in that team is being used the same way. Tactically amd positionally, no player plays in a single position throughout the match. It has nothing to do with Havertz.

So, I disagreed with you.
It's Havertz.

Havertz can push to CF for Trossard to drop into midfield or drops further deep to form a midfield square with Odegaard, Rice and White, Havertz drops into a double pivot with Rice to allow Odegaard push forward to press, Havertz goes wide into LW to allow Martinelli go central attack and infield to form a front two with Trossard.

Everyone is moving but it almost always involves Havertz. That's why I said he is the free man and joker, the space interpreter that determines the positions others take in the pitch.

You don't have to argue with me, just go and watch our last two matches.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:07pm On Feb 18, 2024
Jodera:
I dey always make sense, I'm surprised you're seeing it today tongue tongue
At least you have come to terms with the fact that Arsenal does not need a striker like Haaland to win the league.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:14pm On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
At least you have come to terms with the fact that Arsenal does not need a striker like Haaland to win the league.
Lmaooo grin

It's surprising you of all people would accuse me of this. Me that's always the advocate of the false 9 free role especially wrt our system, me that Iamoyin.damola always troll with loving defensive strikers naim you wan do this one with.


Lol... You no try for this one grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:13pm On Feb 18, 2024
Jodera:
Lmaooo grin

It's surprising you of all people would accuse me of this. Me that's always the advocate of the false 9 free role especially wrt our system, me that Iamoyin.damola always troll with loving defensive strikers naim you wan do this one with.


Lol... You no try for this one grin
OK. Let me take your word for it. Because I know say me and you argue about GJ and his finishing.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:57pm On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
OK. Let me take your word for it. Because I know say me and you argue about GJ and his finishing.
I always criticize anyone who misses easy chances and GJ wasn't an exception. I've criticized even Saka here during his early days for missing chances before he improved tremendously.

The reason why we argued was because you were saying he's missing chances because of his workrate he normally do and that he needs to stay in the box like a traditional 9 why I disagreed saying he's just not a great goalscorer.

I've always always been an advocate for false 9 role right from beginning
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:36pm On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
I can't even get a hold of what you are saying.
Using the data from your screenshot, your hypothesis is void..it is not even capable of being tested because it has no basis.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 8:37pm On Feb 18, 2024
Jodera:
Why do you say so?
I'll explain later.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 8:39pm On Feb 18, 2024
Spy360:
It's Havertz.

Havertz can push to CF for Trossard to drop into midfield or drops further deep to form a midfield square with Odegaard, Rice and White, Havertz drops into a double pivot with Rice to allow Odegaard push forward to press, Havertz goes wide into LW to allow Martinelli go central attack and infield to form a front two with Trossard.

Everyone is moving but it almost always involves Havertz. That's why I said he is the free man and joker, the space interpreter that determines the positions others take in the pitch.

You don't have to argue with me, just go and watch our last two matches.
I wanted to type something long before until I came across the bolded. You need to start watching this team first before you start debating about who is cerebral and who is not. BTW, I lifted this from EBL's weekly analysis on Twitter.

Ødegaard made sure that occurred, though, as he consistently organised the structure of his team.

As he was moving high, he instructed White to invert. His tactical understanding is incredible.

Much like Bernardo is for Pep, Ødegaard is like a coach on the pitch for Mikel..


Look at that last line...
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