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Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 2:05am On Feb 27
BabaAduras:


Again, the fact that purchasing power is diminished/eroded is without contestations. The point your missing is the fact that prompt payment of salaries and contractors, increasing salaries and payment of palliatives will cushion some of the effects of the eroded purchasing power.

For a fact, some businesses will not close down if there is liquidity in the country. A situation where a few (governors in this case) are stealing and owing workers and contractors as we have is most potent killer of businesses and economy.

True, things are more expensive (the dollar impact), increasing workers salaries and cushioning with palliatives (as directed and implied by increased allocations), would have helped workers purchasing power.

During the recent fuel and items price hikes in the US, though salaries were not increased to avoid uncontrolled inflation, governments paid palliatives in form of tax reliefs and some companies and government entities just unilaterally made some one-time-payments to their workers. My company just paid everybody at all levels $5k as fuel subsidy. That was just to cushion the diminished purchasing power.

If we have responsive and responsible governors that are getting increased federal allocations, why would they need NLC-TUC or you and I to tell them the purchasing power of workers is eroded and that they need to divert some the increased allocations to help worker and contractors. That is why I said we start the challenge from the bottom.

I have a friend who got a contract from Ogun state government. He went to bank to borrow money to start the project believing he will get the mobilization fund to progress and complete the project. He has not been paid the mobilization fee, he could not progress the project, price of items and labor are on the increase and the interest is running on the loan he borrowed from the bank. Yet Ogun State government that is getting increased federal allocations refused to pay mobilization fee talk less of paying for the Value of Work Done. That is what is killing businesses my friend. It has nothing to do with dollars and very little to do with purchasing power.

The question of State governors not been able to do anything after paying salaries is best answered by asking the following questions:

1. Did the workforce increased after the increased allocation? The answer for that is NO. I have not read of any state government doing any massive recruitment.
2. Have they increased workers salaries? Again the answer is NO.
3. How were the governors paying the workers (that has not changed significantly) before the allocation increase?
4. What have they been spending the increased fund on?

We need to start asking hard questions of everyone at ALL the levels of government not just focusing on the presidency. That is my point.

I don't want to go back and forth with you on this matter, Tinubu is the one to take the major blame....
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 2:08am On Feb 27
oyatz:


Allocations received by the States have increased by 60% but their wage bills have not increased ,in fact some States are still not paying 30,000 minimum wage, so where is the money going to sir?

Do you know what #20 Billion can do in the economy of Abia, Taraba, Osun or Jigawa States?

I have replied the other guys why the money might make very little or no difference at all....
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 2:12am On Feb 27
NinjaMetahuman:
I got it wrong, instead of telling me how It wrong, he went on rambling about tinubu.

Wrote 5000 words without countering anything I said.

If you know why businesses that don't pay salaries in dollars or import anything in dollars are shutting down then I don't need to explain much to you...
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by jazzman7711: 2:14am On Feb 27
mrrandomguy:
Let us tell ourselves the truth, propaganda against Tinubu's government is a waste of time. The level of corruption in our states (and local governments) is beyond control.

People blame BAT but are not holding their state governors accountable. Many don't even know who the deputy governor of their state is, talkless of the local government chairman.

VERY WELL SAID.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, 80% OF CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTRY IS PERPERTARTED BY STATE GOVTS.

BUT EVERYBODY BLAMES ABUJA BECAUSE OF TRIBALISM.

NOBODY WANTS TO HOLD THEIR OWN ETHNIC LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE.

IT IS SO ANNOYING!

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Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by Fujiyama: 3:15am On Feb 27
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Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by BabaAduras: 5:38am On Feb 27
NairalandForumo:


I don't want to go back and forth with you on this matter, Tinubu is the one to take the major blame....

While I am not exonerating BAT nor anybody in government, the truth if we want desired change, we will forget tribal and political affiliations and start asking everyone at all levels of government how they are spending our commonwealth.

That is the gospel truth.
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 8:15am On Feb 27
BabaAduras:


While I am not exonerating BAT nor anybody in government, the truth if we want desired change, we will forget tribal and political affiliations and start asking everyone at all levels of government how they are spending our commonwealth.

That is the gospel truth.

I wished you people did what you are saying
during GEJ's time...
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NinjaMetahuman: 10:00am On Feb 27
NairalandForumo:


If you know why businesses that don't pay salaries in dollars or import anything in dollars are shutting down then I don't need to explain much to you...
how is running business poorly related national budget?

Are you just talking randomly as they pop into your head?
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 11:22am On Feb 27
NinjaMetahuman:
how is running business poorly related national budget?

Are you just talking randomly as they pop into your head?



If the running cost of a business becomes higher than the profit the company is headed for failure, if the running cost of a country becomes higher than the budget, the country is headed for failure....

Increase in budgetary allocations means the running cost of the country has increased, reason for the increase allocations, once running cost begins to surpass the budget then what happens?
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by BabaAduras: 2:20pm On Feb 27
NairalandForumo:


I wished you people did what you are saying
during GEJ's time...

I started pushing this approach since the days of OBJ when he wasted $5b on Refineries revamp, $16b on fake Power Project and allowed Atiku to cheap-sell our industries to his friends and cronies after pump money into the industries in the name of revamping them.

Corruption does not know tribe nor party and it is happening at all levels of government. Challenge all those in government (politicians and civil servants) starting from the Councillors. Ask them what they are doing with our commonwealth entrusted into their hands. Don't focus on the Presidency alone.

Over 60% of our total revenue is going to States and LGAs, we should expect much more from them.
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 2:34pm On Feb 27
BabaAduras:


I started pushing this approach since the days of OBJ when he wasted $5b on Refineries revamp, $16b on fake Power Project and allowed Atiku to cheap-sell our industries to his friends and cronies after pump money into the industries in the name of revamping them.

Corruption does not know tribe nor party and it is happening at all levels of government. Challenge all those in government (politicians and civil servants) starting from the Councillors. Ask them what they are doing with our commonwealth entrusted into their hands. Don't focus on the Presidency alone.

Over 60% of our total revenue is going to States and LGAs, we should expect much more from them.

The question I am asking is did you call out your governors during GEJ's time for incompetence the way you are doing it now for Tinubu?
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by BabaAduras: 5:10pm On Feb 27
NairalandForumo:


The question I am asking is did you call out your governors during GEJ's time for incompetence the way you are doing it now for Tinubu?

Of course. Though Amosu (the then Ogun state governor) did very well in terms of infrastructure development, he was stealing workers salary. He was forcefully deducting money from workers pay in the name of Coop savings they never got and he refused to pay the leave allowances.

We made noise, calling him thief to his face. He was challenged and was made to pay for his actions when he want to install his stooge at the end of his tenure. He never got his wish. Even the Senate seat he got was rigged for him. He is still not welcomed nor respected in Ogun State, just like OBJ.
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by NairalandForumo: 5:23pm On Feb 27
BabaAduras:


Of course. Though Amosu (the then Ogun state governor) did very well in terms of infrastructure development, he was stealing workers salary. He was forcefully deducting money from workers pay in the name of Coop savings they never got and he refused to pay the leave allowances.

We made noise, calling him thief to his face. He was challenged and was made to pay for his actions when he want to install his stooge at the end of his tenure. He never got his wish. Even the Senate seat he got was rigged for him. He is still not welcomed nor respected in Ogun State, just like OBJ.

Did you also blame Shettima for the abduction of the Chibok girls?
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by BabaAduras: 5:58pm On Feb 27
NairalandForumo:


Did you also blame Shettima for the abduction of the Chibok girls?

Of course, but I will not use the word "Blame". I would rather say I hold them (The Governors) "Accountable" because they are the Chief Security Officers for the States. That is why the Security Votes goes to them.
Re: N5.108trn In 8 Months: Hardship Unabated In States Despite Huge Allocations by Babinski: 10:49am On Feb 28
kniks:
This s wickedness

As long as corruption prevails in Nigeria and there is no severe punishment for corruption, all attempts and policies to remove hardship or improve the lives of the people are bound to be exercises in futility.

Most Governors on receiving humongous allocations will only be busy changing them into dollars for personal use or funding outrageous white elephants projects with the purpose of stealing. How do you preach kindness to a Tiger or gentleness to a He-Goat on heat?

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