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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:40pm On Mar 05
mostob:
How we want take explain again o.
Dave, you want us to add a traditional 9 to the team and start feeding him passes. If any 9 is coming, it won't be in the mould of Haaland. Having a top o who is only concerned about scoring will be detrimental to the team's development.

Imagine Nigeria without Osimhen during the last AFCON. Don't you think our chance of winning will drastically reduce? That's the kind of team you want us to be. A team that shift the entire focus on the striker. A team that is toothless without their talisman. We saw how this panned out when Auba was still here FFS.

One thing you should note is that you can't expect goals to be coming from every part of the pitch yet still expect the 9 you're suggesting to score 30 goals in a season. That's close to impossible. You can only choose one. The reasons why we're clamouring for another striker is because Jesus is injury proned, he is not clinical and due to his height (maybe). What you're suggesting is not feasible.
Exactly, it'll be really really difficult and it'll be really really hard. To find such a Striker deh very very hard and the only person wey I fit think of na prime Suarez.

Omorr, and there's no how he'll be scoring back to back that they(others) won't subconsciously play for him. Look at Man city that normally have players in double figures season in season out (at least 3) now have just only Foden crossing the double figure mark with just one goal. Even Kdb that was known for goals and assists suddenly turn only assist maker. And this is a whole Pep team ooo.

I love my team like this to be honest, but if a striker comes and we stop spreading goals, omorr I go vex cry

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:42pm On Mar 05
daveP:


Ohhh. I get your angle nowww


Haba

Was that your fear?

The modern 9 is now a norm already now.

Martinez
Vlah
Toney
Kane
Boniface
Lewa

Haaland
Osimhen

Alll are not waiting and strolling like Nketiah does sometimes. All contribute.

Recall i said a 9 that will do what Haaland did offball to Man U CBs, thereby creating space for Foden and co to exploit and scatter things
Of all you mentioned here, Kane, Boniface and maybe Toney are those that perfectly suit your insinuation. Others are pure 9s. I've not watched Vlahovic much except on YouTube. Martinez is just like Gabriel Jesus but he doesn't have the physical presence. Thuram is to Martinez, what Giroud was to Mbappe.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:45pm On Mar 05
Jodera:
Exactly, it'll be really really difficult and it'll be really really hard. To find such a Striker deh very very hard and the only person wey I fit think of na prime Suarez.

Omorr, and there's no how he'll be scoring back to back that they(others) won't subconsciously play for him. Look at Man city that normally have players in double figures season in season out (at least 3) now have just only Foden crossing the double figure mark with just one goal. Even Kdb that was known for goals and assists suddenly turn only assist maker. And this is a whole Pep team ooo.

I love my team like this to be honest, but if a striker comes and we stop spreading goals, omorr I go vex cry
Gbam! You have said it all. Another striker who does this well is Harry Kane.
And yea, about 3 city players used to hit double figures in goals those years until they bought Haaland. I like how goals do spread across the entire frontline. It makes the team unpredictable.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:47pm On Mar 05
daveP:


Ohhh. I get your angle nowww


Haba

Was that your fear?

The modern 9 is now a norm already now.

Martinez
Vlah
Toney
Kane
Boniface
Lewa

Haaland
Osimhen

Alll are not waiting and strolling like Nketiah does sometimes. All contribute.

Recall i said a 9 that will do what Haaland did offball to Man U CBs, thereby creating space for Foden and co to exploit and scatter things
Haaland that have 9 touches per match will disrupt our flow ooo cheesy

Just forget his Man City stuff, pep system is good and set while we, we're still implementing our own, Haaland fit no work for us.

Anyways sha, the person I'll pick in that list is Osimhen grin

(Kane and Lewy are no go areas so it's understood) cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:48pm On Mar 05
Jodera:
Lol... You know it was this same fixture that derailed us a bit last season with their ojoro line.
Now they want history to repeat itself but God pass dem grin

I know Thomas Frank will be wary of our attack too
Frank will probably park the bus.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:09pm On Mar 05
mostob:
Gbam! You have said it all. Another striker who does this well is Harry Kane.
And yea, about 3 city players used to hit double figures in goals those years until they bought Haaland. I like how goals do spread across the entire frontline. It makes the team unpredictable.
Very very unpredictable and non-reliant.

I watched analysis on our game against Newcastle and I saw how Saliba and Gabriel Man Marked Isak because he's their striker. From the way we press them, their only hope was punting the ball straight to Isak but trust our CBs na cheesy.
Even when he tries to go deep into the midfield, they know he's their traditional CF thus there's no means of him rotating with anyone hence dem dey follow am bumper to bumper.

But a fluid 9 will drag you (the CBs) out of position and some other player will fill in that space been vacated by the CBs. Look at our first goal against Liverpool (3-1), our 9 Havertz was already deep near our 18 assisting in buildup, hence nobody for Van Dijk or Konate to hold. When the ball came upfield, our furthest player was Odegaard whom Van Dijk assumed was the present 9 at that instant hence he went to press him. Pressing him vacated a space at the back of him which Havertz quickly ran into from deep and Odegaard laid a one time pass. Havertz fvcked up with his shooting but then we saw how it destabilised the defence. Same thing we've been doing in this our high wins recently. Sometimes you see Havertz in CF, sometimes you see Martinelli there and Havertz have drop deep, sometimes Odegaard pops into the space and sometimes even Saka. The confuses the CBs on who to mark cos if you Man mark person, dem fit drag you enter Midfield and another person will take that vacant space. A traditional 9 won't allow all these movements.


There's also a big reason Haaland never had a shot on goal against us in the last two meetings (EPL and community shield. Shocking right?). Gabriel and Saliba (esp) knows that he's a traditional 9 and he can't be fluid to drag them out of position for someone to take space. Moreover, he can't bully dem as him deh do others cos they're both strong and very fast with great intelligence. It's no coincidence most top coaches opts for fluid 9



Sorry, I know say e long grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:10pm On Mar 05
mostob:
Frank will probably park the bus.
Better for us then cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 8:48pm On Mar 05
There's also a big reason Haaland never had a shot on goal against us in the last two meetings (EPL and community shield. Shocking right?). Gabriel and Saliba (esp) knows that he's a traditional 9 and he can't be fluid to drag them out of position for someone to take space. Moreover, he can't bully dem as him deh do others cos they're both strong and very fast with great intelligence. It's no coincidence most top coaches opts for fluid 9

I wanted to bring this up, you beat me to it. Even if we buy any "traditional 9", we will still watch Arteta convert him to another Gabriel Jesus.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:17pm On Mar 05
germaphobe:

There's also a big reason Haaland never had a shot on goal against us in the last two meetings (EPL and community shield. Shocking right?). Gabriel and Saliba (esp) knows that he's a traditional 9 and he can't be fluid to drag them out of position for someone to take space. Moreover, he can't bully dem as him deh do others cos they're both strong and very fast with great intelligence. It's no coincidence most top coaches opts for fluid 9

I wanted to bring this up, you beat me to it. Even if we buy any "traditional 9", we will still watch Arteta convert him to another Gabriel Jesus.
grin grin grin
That's facts.

Nketiah is the least in pecking order amongst all our strikers/quasi-strikers. That should tell us something cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 9:25pm On Mar 05
Jodera:
grin grin grin
That's facts.

Nketiah is the least in pecking order amongst all our strikers/quasi-strikers. That should tell us something cheesy
The guy no gree blend to Teta standard
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:01pm On Mar 05
Shegzdave:

The guy no gree blend to Teta standard
Toor, you don see am na cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:05pm On Mar 05
Mbappe is something else. See that space exploitation by this guy? Things i love to see with Nelli but guy still dey boot dey off dey load dey disconnect.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:07pm On Mar 05
Jodera:

Haaland that have 9 touches per match will disrupt our flow ooo cheesy

Just forget his Man City stuff, pep system is good and set while we, we're still implementing our own, Haaland fit no work for us.

Anyways sha, the person I'll pick in that list is Osimhen grin

(Kane and Lewy are no go areas so it's understood) cheesy

Provided the fear of his presence is there, it is a big deal. Seeing that Viking ponytail moving around you....😂
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:10pm On Mar 05
Shegzdave:

The guy no gree blend to Teta standard

The obvious thing though is man is trying to set up with a mixed pep style with a bigger factor in his own style. That's the thing making me feel the 9 is important to him. These guys will las las move to Villa, Westham, Brentford or Palace las las. Reduce squad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:20am On Mar 06
Jodera:
Very very unpredictable and non-reliant.

I watched analysis on our game against Newcastle and I saw how Saliba and Gabriel Man Marked Isak because he's their striker. From the way we press them, their only hope was punting the ball straight to Isak but trust our CBs na cheesy.
Even when he tries to go deep into the midfield, they know he's their traditional CF thus there's no means of him rotating with anyone hence dem dey follow am bumper to bumper.

But a fluid 9 will drag you (the CBs) out of position and some other player will fill in that space been vacated by the CBs. Look at our first goal against Liverpool (3-1), our 9 Havertz was already deep near our 18 assisting in buildup, hence nobody for Van Dijk or Konate to hold. When the ball came upfield, our furthest player was Odegaard whom Van Dijk assumed was the present 9 at that instant hence he went to press him. Pressing him vacated a space at the back of him which Havertz quickly ran into from deep and Odegaard laid a one time pass. Havertz fvcked up with his shooting but then we saw how it destabilised the defence. Same thing we've been doing in this our high wins recently. Sometimes you see Havertz in CF, sometimes you see Martinelli there and Havertz have drop deep, sometimes Odegaard pops into the space and sometimes even Saka. The confuses the CBs on who to mark cos if you Man mark person, dem fit drag you enter Midfield and another person will take that vacant space. A traditional 9 won't allow all these movements.


There's also a big reason Haaland never had a shot on goal against us in the last two meetings (EPL and community shield. Shocking right?). Gabriel and Saliba (esp) knows that he's a traditional 9 and he can't be fluid to drag them out of position for someone to take space. Moreover, he can't bully dem as him deh do others cos they're both strong and very fast with great intelligence. It's no coincidence most top coaches opts for fluid 9



Sorry, I know say e long grin
This is a perfectly carved brilliant submission. Long ke? I will finish it o. Unless you're Captain Kmk, I like reading other's opinions because I tends to learn one or two things.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:22am On Mar 06
daveP:


Provided the fear of his presence is there, it is a big deal. Seeing that Viking ponytail moving around you....
na fear factor you want abi na 3 points? You mean this current Arsenal team still don't have the fear factor? You want us to get a 9 that will give us a fear factor yet without the 9, we have a lot of fear factors not just in attack but all over the field.. Saka? Martinelli? Jesus? Trossard? Partey?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:38am On Mar 06
Spy360:

How does tenure and money spent determine whether a coach is doing well or not? As it stands even if he wins the league and CL double you will still not rate him. Imagine saying that he choked last season. Is Man City a joke to you? Which club did not choke facing City last season?

Asking for a word of encouragement cannot be mediocrity especially after winning in the kind of streak we have lately. I mean, I didn't say you should crown him King of EPL, I only asked for a word of encouragement. If that is asking too much because of your perceived high standards, I will be out for who deserves your praise.

If you were an employer of labor or lead at a level that evaluates outcomes then you would most definitely not type that first sentence.

On the search tab, type “Roland17 Arteta” and then get back to me on what you find since we returned from Dubai.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:39am On Mar 06
Arteta is turning these guys to monster
So arsenal now look their opponents in the tunnel eyeball to eyeball with a straight face
Wahala
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:53am On Mar 06
daveP:


Provided the fear of his presence is there, it is a big deal. Seeing that Viking ponytail moving around you....😂
Man City before Haaland was very very feared.

Lemme tell you something, take away Rodri and Kdb in this present 11. No, just take away only Kdb and let us play with our complete squad, I swear I'll be very certain of at least 1-3 points.

As long as my squad is complete, I fear no Haaland.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:54am On Mar 06
mostob:
This is a perfectly carved brilliant submission. Long ke? I will finish it o. Unless you're Captain Kmk, I like reading other's opinions because I tends to learn one or two things.
grin grin grin grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:04am On Mar 06
mostob:
na fear factor you want abi na 3 points? You mean this current Arsenal team still don't have the fear factor? You want us to get a 9 that will give us a fear factor yet without the 9, we have a lot of fear factors not just in attack but all over the field.. Saka? Martinelli? Jesus? Trossard? Partey?
Lol, you know during that first leg where we won I was absent due to my health and unfortunately I wasn't able to watch the match.

I later watched the full match and mehnnn, against very strong defenders and good Midfield, Haaland will do Zilch!!
After that "body" Saliba gave him, my guy started running away from him moving towards Gabriel but even that one na werey! cheesy

Halaand just need Kdb to unlock him against good defence. The both matches he had no shot on target against us had one thing in common — absence of Kdb.

I fear past Man City over this present Man city (not denying this one isn't great too) but that one you no go know who to hold. D.Silva, Sane, Mahrez, Gundo, Fernandinho. All these people no need Haaland by their side make you fear dem cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 9:12am On Mar 06
iamoyindamola:
Arteta is turning these guys to monster
So arsenal now look their opponents in the tunnel eyeball to eyeball with a straight face
Wahala

This is exactly what i want.

Where opponents will be afraid of playing and the arsenal team on line up will be smelling blood right from the tunnel esp if i can see it in Odegard's eyes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:14am On Mar 06
Lush100:


This is exactly what i want.

Where opponents will be afraid of playing and the arsenal team on line up will be smelling blood right from the tunnel esp if i can see it in Odegard's eyes
Odegaard is butty
White no get joy for eyes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 9:22am On Mar 06
iamoyindamola:

Odegaard is butty
White no get joy for eyes
.

I've seen it in his eyes before.
Not many times.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:22am On Mar 06
White na one Kain guy sha... grin
He said he didn't even know when he took the shot, and he didn't know where the ball was going. He just shoot and made sure there is curve. It was when he heard the roar from the fans that he knew he had scored. grin
In short, that goal was 99% faith, 1% effort.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:24am On Mar 06
iamoyindamola:
Arteta is turning these guys to monster
So arsenal now look their opponents in the tunnel eyeball to eyeball with a straight face
Wahala
grin grin
Things I love to read and see bro, they need to be a monster to win a Major Trophy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:26am On Mar 06
iamoyindamola:

Odegaard is butty
White no get joy for eyes
You mean same white wey get baby face grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:28am On Mar 06
Shegzdave:

You mean same white wey get baby face grin grin
White na werey typical slow poison
I need to look for the picture again
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:28am On Mar 06
daveP:


The obvious thing though is man is trying to set up with a mixed pep style with a bigger factor in his own style. That's the thing making me feel the 9 is important to him. These guys will las las move to Villa, Westham, Brentford or Palace las las. Reduce squad
Osihmen or Tooney will be perfect for our system and thank God the boys are still very young

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:28am On Mar 06
iamoyindamola:

White na werey typical slow poison
I need to look for the picture again
Please share it when you see
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:31am On Mar 06
Jodera:

Lol, you know during that first leg where we won I was absent due to my health and unfortunately I wasn't able to watch the match.

I later watched the full match and mehnnn, against very strong defenders and good Midfield, Haaland will do Zilch!!
After that "body" Saliba gave him, my guy started running away from him moving towards Gabriel but even that one na werey! cheesy

Halaand just need Kdb to unlock him against good defence. The both matches he had no shot on target against us had one thing in common — absence of Kdb.

I fear past Man City over this present Man city (not denying this one isn't great too) but that one you no go know who to hold. D.Silva, Sane, Mahrez, Gundo, Fernandinho. All these people no need Haaland by their side make you fear dem cheesy
City of those years are very dangerous. You no go know who you wan mark sef. It is baffling how they didn't go unbeaten. But now, they have kinda become predictable. They don't have the fear factor like before. Take away Rodri and Benardo from their midfield and everywhere go become expressway. Haaland no dey get connection without KDB.

Arsenal is getting there sha. Imagine the like of Jesus, Partey, Zinchenko, Tomiyasu struggling for a starting spot.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:32am On Mar 06
The only players who look hard are the Brazilian boy, they look like they can break an opponent jaw grin

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