MrPresident1:


Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

A man can be one flesh with many women, but for the woman it is corruption; she gets corrupted, her field gets sown with different kinds of seed

2 Samuel 12:7-9
King James Version
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

This is David, the man after God's heart, God telling him he would have given him more women if he asked

You know nothing.

Maximus692:


So David is qualified for everlasting life shey?

Ken4Christ:


He not only married two wives, his children were the product of 4 women.

MrPresident1:

According to eleri jehofa, he isn't?

Veecruz:


His plan was to marry only one wife. Like Abraham, [b]he was forced and did not do it on his own unlike what you are telling people to do which is to comit adultery by using marriage and hiding.under the cover of marriage.

Maximus692:


Jesus gave but you're not listening to the Holy Spirit!

If you know that polygamy is bad for your mom, sister or daughter then what do you have to say about this statement of Christ?
Hi
“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean." Matthew 7:12

Christ Jesus said:

"But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:26-27

So how come you're not learning from the Holy Spirit that polygamy doesn't give peace in any home?
And why are you in support of what you will not want for your own mom, sister or daughter?

Ken4Christ:


Did God condemn him? Remember, he was the only man who was said to have wrestled with God and prevailed.

Maximus692:


Hmmmmmmmmmmm but i don't agree with you that all of them knows!...

Maximus692:
If a man marry your daughter and you assisted him to get a better life because he's married to your daughter, hope you will welcome the new development when he decides to take a new wife and get a RIVAL for your daughter?

Maximus692:


You didn't answer the question!

OK let me rephrase it:

Would you advise your son in-law or brother in law to practice polygamy?

paxonel:
The fact stil remain that, monogamy is far better than polygamy in terms of obtaining a happy family life and bringing up responsible children

Maximus692:


Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things! Philippians 4:8

When it comes to reality polygamy is not true, it's bad, not righteous, not chaste, not lovable, not well spoken of, not virtuous, not praise worthy that's why no sincere or normal human will want it for his mother, sister or daughter to be a victim of polygamy.

That's how to set matters straight using God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Ken4Christ:
Where did the idea that a Christian should marry only one wife come from? The God we serve today is still the same God of Israel, his chosen people. And the nation of Israel was founded on polygamy. Is God not aware of it. The children that makes up the nation of Israel were born by four women, one man.

Please, let's renew our minds.

Paul only insisted that Bishops should limit themselves to only one wife. And Paul never said that it was the commandment from the Lord.

Besides, he only gave this instructions to Timothy and Titus. He never mentioned it in his letter to churches.

It's even far better for a Bishop to marry more than one wife than to marry one and be cheating with little girls in church. And this is what the command of one wife has done. A good number of Bishop cheats. I personally will not even condemn any Bishop who has more than one wife. We don't all the same sexual urge. If Paul wanted this instruction to be a doctrine that must be strictly adhered to, he would have included it in all the letters he wrote to all the churches. This is because, not all the churches know Timothy and Titus. And both of them didn't know all the churches.

I have made my point. You are free to throw stones. But don't forget that the stones you throw is also attempting to tell God that he did not do well by permitting his own people to form a nation out of Polygamy.

MiddleDimension:


My dear, there is no.evidence for aaying what you are saying and you should know better than making claims without providing an evidence to back it up.

You opinion is based on the idea that when you have two or more women in a home that generates hatred. But what you do not realize is the fact that human psychology is way more complex than you have said it. Look into the bible, and you will see happy and well brought up children who are from polygamous homes

All of you being against polygamy being christian should just take a back sit because you have no case and no point!

Maximus692:


They don't understand God's word they only quote it.

There's no single polygamist in the Bible who doesn't experience the pain and sorrow that has to do with polygamy.

Must God tell us that's it's evil when we ourselves knows that?

Imagine after scrutinizing him about his mom, sister or daughter being a victim of polygamy he came out openly that he hates it yet he's quoting Isaiah 4:1 where God laid a cursed on the inhabitants of Jerusalem!

MiddleDimension:


My dear the scripture you quoted has got nothing to do with the topic at hand! You all should even listen to yourselves when you speak!

My dear, Polygamy is TRUE, RIGHTEOUS, CHASTE AND PRAISE WORTHY! YOU ALL THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF A THING, THEN IT BECINES BAD! A THING IS NOT BAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT!
AND YES, THERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE VIRTEOUS, AND WILL ADVICE THEIR MOTHERS, SISTERS, OR FEMALE FRIENDS TO BECOME A SECOND WIFE!

MiddleDimension:


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I want you to provide evidence to SHOW THAT THE SO-CALLED SUFFERING ANY ONE IN THE BIBLE SUFFERED, IS DUE TO ''POLYGAMY''.

IT WILL BE A MASSIVE SHAME ON YOU IF YOU GO AND POINT AT THE COMMON ISSUES PEOPLE HAVE IN HOMES, POLYGAMY OR NOT AS PRESENT IT AS ISSUES WRONG WITH POLYGAMY!

At this point, I know you are going to say jealous, envy, hatred, etc, are all product of polygamy. Well, lets see if that is true and that you don't find it in dangerous levels in momogamy as well!

First of all, lets look at monogamies in the bible and see if these ''problems'' exist.

Adam and Eve

Adam and Eve was a mogamous marriage yet, we could find all the things you listed above in dangerously high levels!

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to god and the bible says Cain became FURIOUS and SCOWLED in ANGER! (gen 4:5). His anger reached such a dangerous level that god had to warn him to be careful. God said: ''because you have done evil, SIN IS CROUCHING AT YOUR DOOR AND IT WANTS TO RULE YOU, BUT YOU MUST OVERCOME IT.''. Because the anger and jealousy was so great, he turned around and did the worst: KILL ABEL! That's case No1.

Case No2: Isaac and Rebecca

This is another monogamy, whose ONLY CHILDREN were TWINS, and as you will see, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CLOSE YOUR EYES, that there was a dangerous level of ENVY, HATRED, JEALOUSY, ATTEMPTED MURDER, CURSE, FAVOURITISM AND THEFT.

Even though Cain and Abel were twins, the bible says: Isaac prefered Essau while Rebecca prefered Jacob (Gen 25:28). That's favouritism which you think polygamy breeds! the favouritism was at such a dangerous level that when Isaac wanted to bless Essau, one of Rebecca's children, she plotted and STOLE the blessings for Jacob. When Essau heard it, he said: ''THIS IS THE SECOND TIME HE IS CHEATING ME'' (Gen 27:36). In vs 41, it says: Essau HATED Jacob and that he will KILL Jacob. In vs 44, Rebecca said to Jacob to stay with his uncle until his brother's ANGER had cooled down.

So, can we say these are due to monogamy?

Now, lets look at polygamy and see if there exists virtue and some of God's loftiests ideals.

Lamech (Gen 4: 18-22)

The bible says Lamech had two wives and he had three sons. The first one, Jabal, was the father of those who did agriculture. The second was the father of musicians, and the third one was the father of those who made crafts.

When the bible says ''they are they fathers of...'' it means they were so accomplished in their chosen careers that when you mention those careers, they are the first ones that will cone to mind. They became famous for these professions due to their hard work, dedication and delligence.

According to sociologists, there is a strong correlation between career success and a very well adjusted home.

Jacob's polygamous home

When the other brothers plotted to kill Joseph, Reuben, Jacob's first born who DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME MOTHER WITH JOSEPH BY THE WAY, planned to save him. Also, take note that his brothers hate him not because he had a different mother, but because ''joseph loved him more than the others''(Gen 37:4). Also, see that all his brothers who hated him, were also children of different mothers. They also loved Benjamin and protected him even though he was born of Rachel, Joseph's mother. Judah said he PLEDGED HIS LIFE FOR BENJAMIN (Gen 44:32).

After Joseph had been sold and Reuben.came back to the well and dis not find him, the bible said he TORE HIS CLOTHES IN SORROW! (Gen 37:29)

What about Gideon, who the bibke says.had many wives yet NOT A SINGLE EVIL WAS RECORDED TO HIS NAME INSTEAD, HE WAS MENTIONED IN HEBREWS 11 AS A MODEL OF FAITH TO THE BORN AGAIN.

I know you are shocked because you hope is, I will never find something like this from the bible!

You all are SERIOUSLY TO IGNORANT TO HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS ISSUE YET, YOU CONFIDENTLY STEP UP WHENEVER THIS DISCUSSION ARISES.

When God told Peter that he should not call unclean what to him is clean, He was rebuking you chriatians from having an opinion based on prejudice! (Acts 10: 15)

Peter did not know enough about what is clean or not clean in the sight of God. So, out of his partial or total ignorance, he called unclean what to god is holy. Just as you are sinfully calling polygamy unclean when to God it is Holy, admirable, blessed, functional, good and praise worthy.

Let me tell you the dangers of not knowing your God's stands on issues and then go on to have an false knowledge about it.

Because Peter thinks the gentiles are not of God because they have not carried out all the purifications prescribed in the law of moses, and because they are not 'decendants' of Abraham, is the reason why he pulled back from the them when he saw Paul and the jews coming in the way. (Gal 2:11-21) As a result of that move, he denied the gentile christians the benefit of his annointing which they would have got if he stayed with them! The bible says: ''People learn from one another, just as iron sharpens iron'' Proverbs 27:17.

Yes, God could still have got the same benefit to the people whether or not Peter choses that he be used as agent of God in the process, as his reach is not limited by soace or time. But why would god do things himself when he has an ambassador in you? The reason ge gas you there is that you might share in his work to save man.

So, Peter, in withdrawing from the gentiles for fear and ignorance of what God considers clean, committed a grave sin against the lord!

In the same way too, because you have chosen to not know the truth and mind of God concerning popygamy, you are committing a grave sin against the lord! Because it shapes your mind and attitutde in a negative way to that holy institution and those who come from it!

paxonel:
Happy and well brought up children like Absolom who raped his step sister and wanted to overthrow his father, or Joseph that was sold by his step brothers?

Which happy children from polygamous home in the bible are you talking about?

Polygamy may guarantee a happy family and well brought up children, but in a very rare case(1 out of 50) especially in Africa where ignorance is revailent.

MiddleDimension:


A mam should take a second wife afrer the first wife has approved of it.

Maximus692:


Don't worry there's nothing wrong with both whether polygamy or polyandry after all God never condemned any!

Maximus692:


Don't worry there's nothing wrong with both whether polygamy or polyandry after all God never condemned any!

Veecruz:


You Lie! God did. Here it is.

Deuteronomy 17:14-18 When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell there... Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself,

Veecruz:


And only a mad wife will ever approve such an evil thing, like only a mad man will give approval to his wife to marry another man, so The Law has tied them permanently.

MiddleDimension:
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The concluding part of that scripture says: ''...nor shall you multiply gold'' (DethroneYourEnemy 17:18). So, tell me...when are you going to sell all your private jets and stop the preaching of prosperity gospel?

You go cherry picking and think that is acceptable in serious circles.

MiddleDimension:

Leah and Rachel were all mad women, and Jacob was a mad man too? Of course, he did not marry their handmaids and those handmaids were only concubines and did not have the same status as wives in those societies, but I think my example stands.

Maximus692:


Don't worry there's nothing wrong with both whether polygamy or polyandry after all God never condemned any!

Veecruz:


Clearly, they were mad but your point is Off point!

Veecruz:


Off point! We are talking about the sin of multiplying wives and not about the sin of politicians and pastors inriching themselves.Goal post changer

MiddleDimension:


or more accurately put ''the sin of saying God is against the holy and praise-worthy insitution called polygamy''.

Maximus692:


Your daughter brought a young man to you so that you can assist him to become financially strong in order to take care of her and her children to be born so you did everything within your capability to assist the young man just because he's the one your daughter chooses to marry.

If the same man now your son in-law comes to you for advice on polygamy what will you tell him, to go ahead or discard the idea?

Veecruz:


Now we see devil calling adultery, holy!

MiddleDimension:


You really wish you have so much power beyond what you currently have.

A point is ''off-point'' not because you say so, but because of its demerits. So, what is the demerit of my point?