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| Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:21am On Feb 07, 2024*. Modified: 11:30pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
Genesis 18:17-19 King James Version 17 And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? 19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him. God blessed Abraham |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:22am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Genesis 17:19-21 King James Version 19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. God blessed Ishmael and Isaac |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:24am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Isaac is the father of the children of the Book - He has 12 sons Ishmael is the father of the people of the Quran - He has 12 sons Both Ishmael and Isaac are blessed. None of them is cursed |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:31am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. You will see the children of the devil and other ignorant people trying and doing their utmost best to label Ishmael and his doctrine - Islam as the problem of the world because of this one singular verse Islam is not the problem of the world. Islam is the only countervailing power standing against the taking over of the world by the children of the devil There is no terrorism in Islam! Islam is the gospel that Apostle Paul preached to the Gentiles which gospelmwas also preached to Abraham which he passed to Ishmael and Isaac Galatians 3:7-9 King James Version 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. It is in the gospel preached to Abraham that he is blessed |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:38am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Ishmael is a stubborn man, an alagidi eniyan, a toughie, no nonsense man. But he is not evil Ishmael is not evil and his doctrine - Islam, that came out of the gospel preached to Abraham is not evil. Apostle Paul's original doctrine has more been suppressed! ISLAM is the closest to what Apostle Paul preached! When Judah was dispersed and Satan took over the world in 70AD and circa again in 500AD, he inserted himself into the gospel and through sleight turned everything upside down, he corrupted the religion of the Bible; the great deceiver. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:42am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Ishmael is a stubborn man, an alagidi eniyan, a toughie, no nonsense man. But he is not evil, he is not cruel, he is not wicked. Ishmael is not evil and his doctrine - Islam, that came out of the gospel preached to Abraham is not evil. Apostle Paul's original doctrine has more been suppressed! ISLAM is the closest to what Apostle Paul preached! When Judah was dispersed and Satan took over the world in 70AD and circa again in 500AD, he inserted himself into the gospel and through sleight turned everything upside down, he corrupted the religion of the Bible; the great deceiver. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:49am On Feb 07, 2024 |
All the terror you see in the world, not one of them comes from Ishmael or Islam. There can be no terrorism in Islam, it is factually impossible. A Muslim cannot terrorise another person. The terrorist is ESAU Malachi 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:53am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Genesis 36:12 And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau's son; and she bare to Eliphaz Amalek: these were the sons of Adah Esau's wife. Esau's son is Amalek, and Amalek is the first to attack the Lord, and gained primacy as the first born and chief of his brethren Exodus 17:8 Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 11:46pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
Has you pastor ever preached about or against Esau/Edom in your church? Have you ever heard a sermon from our Pastors and Imams about Edom/Esau? I bet you you you have never heard any man of God talk about Edom/Esau. If you hear a parable about a person that stays in darkness to fire missiles and arrows into the light, that is Esau that they are describing to you All the woes on this planet earth including all the endless wars, senseless and endless strife, terrorism, brothers against brothers, sisters against sisters, hunger and starvation, 'incurable' disease, all the socioeconomic and political wars, they are all the work of Esau. But he has concealed himself so well that you all ignorant people have blamed Ishmael to no end. He is only called wild, a 'jagidijagan', with a no gree for anybody mentality, but he is not evil, he is not wicked, and he is not cruel. Ishmael is Abraham's son, and God affirmed that Abraham would teach his children the ways of God. Both Ishmael and Isaac were blessed, both of them have twelve blessed sons Esau is Rome, the border of wickedness. Esau is the wicked one, and he holds the primacy of the world today, and it is the great tribulation of Israel |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 10:25pm On Feb 13, 2024*. Modified: 11:30pm On Feb 13, 2024 |
MrPresident1:This is the synopsis of the Roman empire. But what I want to point out to you this evening is the fact that the Bible says that Rome cast the truth to the ground; and it practised and prospered. The Bible says there is no wisdom against the Lord, and the wisdom of the Lord is the Word and the Word is the Truth The Bible is the culture, constitution and tradition of Israel, the Bible is the Truth By casting the Truth to the ground it means that Rome was given the power to overcome the truth of Israel. The religion of Rome, Christianity, allegedly started when Constantine saw a cross in the skies and heard a voice saying 'by this sign, conquer' this began the prices of syncretising the Truth with the falsehoods of Roman religion. The Bible is Israel's doctrine. Rome overcame it, when it sacked Jerusalem. Anything that comes out of Rome, relating with the Bible is falsehood. The capital of the religion of Christianity is not Jerusalem, it is in Rome. And Rome cast the truth to the ground; and it practised and prospered [in all its falsehoods] because it was given to him. This is why Islam, Ishmael's doctrine, remains the only potent countervailing power and force against Roman Edomite doctrine all over the world and this is why Rome and Edom have done everything and are doing everything to paint it in a bad light. All the so-called 'Islamist' terrorism in the world is the work of Esau/Rome. A true Muslim, born from Abraham's bosom, cannot commit terrorism on another person. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 10:47pm On Feb 13, 2024*. Modified: 7:16am On Feb 19, 2024 |
Jesus told his disciples to 'occupy till I come'. This occupation is in every sphere. But by sleight, a doctrine of separation of Church and State was propounded from Rome There is no dichotomy between the Church and State. The Church and the State is one and the same. Islam accepts no such stupid doctrine, Islam sees no difference between the Mosque/the Umma and the State, which is the proper doctrine, and this is why Islam will dominate Nigeria, while the adherents of Christianity continue to carry the fake doctrine of separation of Church and State on their heads. Pentecostal Christianity allowed proliferation without depth, and commands political impotence and powerlessness in spite of being in charge of huge resources that can effect political change. Pentecostal Christianity has its origins from Rome, so therefore it cannot be a true representation of the Truth. Luke 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. When he told you to occupy till he comes, where was he telling you to occupy? Of all the fake doctrines of Rome, Pentecostal Christianity has done the worst damage to the mind of Nigerians in this last days Any doctrine that comes from Rome relating with the Bible, is a lie Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. An host was given to Rome against the daily living sacrifice of sanctification and holiness of Judah and Israel in Jerusalem, the daily living of a sanctified life in the presence of God which is the sacrifice that is well pleasing to the LORD, which he demands from us everyday, in everything we do and everywhere we find ourselves, an host was given to Rome to vanquish this daily sacrifice, and this by reason of the great and accumulated transgression of Israel/Judah. It cast the truth [of God's holy word], his commandments to Moses, and to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets, to the ground; and it practised and prospered [in his iniquity] to the ends of the earth because the times had been given to him |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:30am On Feb 14, 2024 |
The Esau/Babylon/Rome confederacy Jeremiah 49:16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the Lord. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MightySparrow: 7:55am On Feb 14, 2024 |
MrPresident1:Except the one that made himself a curse to others. Genesis 16:16 |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 11:21pm On Mar 22, 2024 |
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MightySparrow: 7:58am On Mar 23, 2024 |
MrPresident1:None of them is cursed except the one that makes himself a curse to the world betraying the blessings of Abraham. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 12:05pm On Mar 23, 2024 |
MightySparrow:That's Esau/Edom |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:24am On Apr 04, 2024 |
Anyone you see who is always denigrating Islam is a spawn of Satan. They are all Esau's dogs. Islam prevented Esau from lording over the whole earth. Islam frustrated Esau, the people accepted Islam, they rejected Esau's godless ideology Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Amalek, the son of Esau gained the primacy among his brethren for being the first to attack Israel as they left Egypt Genesis 36:12 And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau's son; and she bare to Eliphaz Amalek: these were the sons of Adah Esau's wife. Exodus 17:8 Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim. Amalek tried to destroy the work of God Exodus 17:16 For he said, Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. Amalekite dog spawns warring against the doctrine of God. Awon digbolugi! Proverbs 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Lord |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 2:44pm On May 27, 2024*. Modified: 11:05pm On May 27, 2024 |
Esau is the problem not Ishmael. Shebi your Pentecostal pastors use to preach about Ishmael, have they ever preached about Esau to you? No they cannot. Because Esau is their Master. Pentecostal Christianity is not the truth, it is Esau/Roman/Babylonian lies. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:34am On May 28, 2024 |
Malachi 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever. God has promised that us all that we shall see the face of the Wicked. He can't hide in the darkness forever, he will be revealed and disgraced 2 Thessalonians 2:7-9 King James Version 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, Esau will be revealed in all his gory evilness; he was given the power to trample upon the truth an to practice and prosper until his time is up, he is the border of wickedness. The one that has been letting him will be taken away |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:46am On May 29, 2024 |
Islam, the gospel of Apostle Paul to the gentiles, will rule the world, from American to Jerusalem |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by Fireoflife: 8:37am On May 29, 2024 |
MrPresident1:the Bible says that it's a small rock that'll topple Everthing. Christianity o, islam o. In the end their will be no religion. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 11:49pm On May 29, 2024*. Modified: 7:30am On May 30, 2024 |
Fireoflife:There will always be religion. When David Michael comes he will be the religion We wait patiently for the day, not too fast into the future, when American will become a Muslim Islamic nation Alfa Yusuf inside the Whitehouse |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 12:30pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Esau is the villain His prime son Amalek sits in Jerusalem today. He brands himself as Israeli He sits in the temple showing himself that he is God |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 8:15pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. Apart from this one verse which is actually Ishmael's blessings, there is no single verse again in the Bible that identifies Ishmael as the enemy even though Ishmael too was an opportunistic parasite who also preyed on Israel for which he will be punished too. The trans Saharan slave trade was Ishmael trading in the children of Judah Jeremiah 50:7 All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers. So, when Ishmael found them, he also chopped his own |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 9:51pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Ezekiel 25:12-14 12 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them; 13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword. 14 And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD. Tell your pastors to teach you about Esau and Edom. Shebi they use to tell you about Ishmael? Let them tell you about Esau too |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 8:32am On Mar 06, 2025 |
So all the pastors and all their disciples know who Ishmael is, especially the Pentecostal pastors, they believe that Ishmael is the problem of the world because they have been manipulated to believe that since the Bible says he shall be a wild man and his hands shall be on everyone and everyone's hands shall be upon him, and he shall dwell in the presence of his brethren, automatically, he is the villain. Not true. The LORD did not input vallainy to Ishmael. The person that the LORD inputted vallainy to is Esau. You can never hear any pastor preach about Esau, because they don't know him. He is hidden, but he is there, Esau is the villain. Esau is the Agent Provocateur of all the conflict in the world, who rules by trickery and deceit and deception, formenting trouble among brothers and brethren and keeping the whole world in perennial and perpetual chaos. His time will come. He will drink long and hard and large from the cup of the LORD'S wrath Psalm 75:8 King James Version For in the hand of the Lord there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:03am On Mar 09, 2025 |
Obadiah 1-2 King James Version 1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. 2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised. God will visit Esau |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 5:27pm On Mar 09, 2025 |
All our big big Pentecostal pastors should start preaching against Esau. They can never! They know Ismael, they don't know Esau smh. Even Jacob they don't know |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 2:55pm On Mar 16, 2025 |
Acts 13:26 King James Version Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 9:14am On Mar 18, 2025 |
You know Ishmael but you don't know Esau. Hypocrites, ostriches burying their heads in the sand |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 11:23pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
One day one day we want Daddy Adeboye and Daddy Oyedipo to preach to us about Esau Romans 9:13 King James Version As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. |
| Re: Ishmael And Isaac by MrPresident1(op): 7:21am On Apr 02, 2025 |
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