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What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 2:17pm On Mar 30
Good day, fellas. This is what staff is going through. grin it's funny but it's the truth. grin

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 2:21pm On Mar 30
Be in the HR or management position first before you make a fool of yourself.

Junior workers are underpaid in most organisations, I am not denying it. But being underpaid is different from carrying the heaviest burdens of the company. The illustration on the attached image would have been correct if it is about pay (salaries).

Your entitlement mentality makes you think HR and management positions are less stressful than junior-staff positions. Ignorance is your problem. HR and managers get ideas to establish the organisation. They also face the major risks and threats to the organisation. But you think they just sit there to command you and enjoy money.

Let me ask you a simple equation. What is the heaviest burden of a company?

Do you know that managers face all kinds of security threats (juju, setup, kidnapping, etc) from competitors? Even the employees under those managers use all kinds of manipulations on the managers for nepotism sake. Do you know what the managers go through to fund and sustain the companies? ERISCO Foods employees are getting paid even as the brand is being boycotted while Nigerians are dragging the CEO. Who is suffering the boycott and the dragging? If the company folds, who suffers more loss?

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 2:26pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
Be in the HR or management position first before you make a fool of yourself.
Why are you hurt with the post?

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 2:37pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
Why are you hurt with the post?
I am not hurt. Prove otherwise or admit your falsehood.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by decatalyst(m): 2:42pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
Why are you hurt with the post?

Well, he said the truth.

Every stage of paid employment has its own demands and challenges. Until you are in such position before the reality dawns on you.

Junior employees usually think they are the only ones working, they don't see the pressure, politics, sacrifices, and demands of the business the mid and senior management guys face.

Nah bottom of the pyramid I dey O, but I can tell the pressure the management team face.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by silvoclaira: 2:48pm On Mar 30
They all face a lot. Especially in the military
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by CodeTemplar: 2:51pm On Mar 30
The picture is true for so many orgs out there.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 2:55pm On Mar 30
decatalyst:


Well, he said the truth.

Every stage of paid employment has its own demands and challenges. Until you are in such position before the reality dawns on you.

Junior employees usually think they are the only ones working, they don't see the pressure, politics, sacrifices, and demands of the business the mid and senior management guys face.

Nah bottom of the pyramid I dey O, but I can tell the pressure the management team face.
My point is that, why are they acting like they are helping with the work without putting any hand? It's obvious from the pics. grin
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 2:56pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
I am not hurt. Prove otherwise or admit your falsehood.
How? What message do you get from the pics?

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 2:57pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
How? What message do you get from the pics?
First of all, prove your first claim against me or admit your falsehood in that response.
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Rexymania(m): 3:14pm On Mar 30
Walai
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by samomoli: 3:37pm On Mar 30
You only see the pay. If you did economics in secondary school you will understand this. If you are not mentally strong and intelligent the shoe cannot fit you

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by papyjaypaul: 4:26pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
My point is that, why are they acting like they are helping with the work without putting any hand? It's obvious from the pics. grin

Most of their work is mental, that is why it does not look physical looks like they are acting. It reminds me of those who are artisans thinking educated people are wasting their time. When they need a bank loan or have court cases, they understand the importance of the mental work.

It is always easier on the other side until you put on their shoes. Danfo Bus conductor go de call us butty but if passenger no de, money no go enter. He think say everything na to shout.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derfqy3OPwc?feature=shared



Without labour there is no entrepreneur.

Without capital there is no entrepreneur.

Without an entrepreneur, labor is just sitting on land, wasting it because he has no capital.

Without labor, entrepreneur is with capital but has no letter to capitalise.

Without land, all of them are useless.


We all need each other. Without management, there is no work for you. Without workers, there is no activity for management to work with cool

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by MyExpression(m): 4:26pm On Mar 30
My million dollar question...what is the KPI for HR?

Hiring the right fit.
Training and mentorship
Welfare and bonuses
Physical and mental health management
Policy empathy.
Company culture

These are part of what we expect from Human resources/ personnel management.

Manage the talent and resources you have.
Your job isn't only to issue memo.

MANAGE the HUMAN resources!

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by humilitypays(m): 4:43pm On Mar 30
This is what happens mostly in Nigerian organizations, the higher you go up the ladder of paid employment, the lazier and useless you become in Nigeria
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by faceland: 5:14pm On Mar 30
When I attained management position, only the MD worked harder than me (because he has many branches in different states and I hate traveling)... One other person work almost as hard as me.

I have official time but in reality I am available 24/7 (don't even have the right to off my phone by 3am). You also have the Nigerian factor, where if you leave for too long, everyone do as they wish to the detriment of the organization. I once lift for 3 minutes (forgot something and came back only to see staff foooqin up).

Also, all the staff, if I was in their position, I would do their work. I would not want to send a man to do what I can't do if I was in their position. I respect the working man.

And yeah, a good Nigerian manager is hated by the staff because people are naturally lazy or corrupt (or they want to bring civil servant mentality to private sector)... I didn't leave my house to make friends, I came to solve problem in exchange for money. So often catch them with unintentional micro aggression (dirty looks even though I am fair).

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by ForensikOrder: 7:22pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
Be in the HR or management position first before you make a fool of yourself.

Your entitlement mentality makes you think HR and management positions are less stressful than junior-staff positions. Ignorance is your problem. HR and managers get ideas to establish the organisation. They also face the major risks and threats to the organisation. But you think they just sit there to command you and enjoy money.
Omo, na real talk you talk so. Plenty times, people dey quick to judge wetin dem no fully understand. From the outside, e fit look like say HR and management positions na just to dey sit down, give orders, and chop money. But the truth be say, those roles dey come with their own heavy load of stress and responsibilities wey no dey always visible to everyone.

HR and management teams dey carry the work of not just making sure say the organization dey run smoothly, but also dey think of how to grow the business, how to handle the welfare of employees, and how to navigate through plenty challenges wey the company dey face. This one include making tough decisions wey fit affect the future of the company and the job security of the staff.

E no be just about giving orders or making policies; na about strategic planning, risk management, and sometimes, having to deal with situations wey no get clear answers. Plus, the success or failure of the organization dey heavily rest on their shoulders. If things go south, na them first go face the music, and na them dey responsible to stakeholders.

Your point dey remind us say empathy and understanding dey important for the workplace. Instead of quick to judge or assume say one position dey easier or better pass another, make we try see things from other perspectives. Every role get its own challenges and pressures, and everyone dey try their best to contribute to the success of the organization.

E good make we dey appreciate the hard work wey everyone dey put in, from the junior staff to the senior management. Na teamwork dey make the dream work, after all. By understanding and respecting the contributions of each person, irrespective of their position, we fit build a more cohesive and productive work environment.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 7:29pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
First of all, prove your first claim against me or admit your falsehood in that response.
The hard core truth is that the staff bears most of the burden. Most management do little or even nothing. I'm talking from experience.
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 7:33pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
The hard core truth is that the staff bears most of the burden. Most management do little or even nothing. I'm talking from experience.
What is the heaviest burden of a company? Answer this question.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 7:35pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
What is the heaviest burden of a company? Answer this question.
I don't know much about company stuff but from my experience, I think it's labour.
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 7:39pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
I don't know much about company stuff but from my experience, I think it's labour.
The heaviest burdens are funding, staff welfare and quality control. Explain how junior workers are in charge of these 3 areas.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 7:47pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
The heaviest burdens are funding, staff welfare and quality control. Explain how junior workers are in charge of these 3 areas.
You have a point. I don't mean the management are not important at all or are not making any impact, my point is about the labour. Most employees in Nigeria are underpaid whereas they carry out most of the stress.
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by GiftAbia1: 7:50pm On Mar 30
Fintech companies
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 8:00pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
You have a point. I don't mean the management are not important at all or are not making any impact, my point is about the labour. Most employees in Nigeria are underpaid whereas they carry out most of the stress.
They are underpaid but they are not the ones facing the most stress.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by ForensikOrder: 8:20pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
You have a point. I don't mean the management are not important at all or are not making any impact, my point is about the labour. Most employees in Nigeria are underpaid whereas they carry out most of the stress.
Na true talk you talk so, bro! E be like say for dis Naija, plenty people dey carry heavy load for work but dem no dey see better pay for wetin dem dey do. E hard sha, especially when you dey put sweat and blood for your work but the reward no dey match the effort wey you dey put.

Na why e dey important make we dey speak up and fight for better treatment for workers for dis country. Employers suppose understand say na dem workers be the engine wey dey move their business forward, so dem suppose show appreciation and value for the work wey dem dey do.

E no go bad if government also put policies and laws wey go protect workers and ensure say dem dey receive fair pay and benefits for their sweat. Make we all join hand, make we fit change dis narrative and make sure say workers dey treated with the respect and dignity wey dem deserve.

Na unity and solidarity fit make dis happen. Make we continue to dey speak up and advocate for better working conditions for all workers for Naija. Together, we fit achieve am! πŸ™ŒπŸΎπŸ’ͺ🏾

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Myrepublic(m): 8:30pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
Be in the HR or management position first before you make a fool of yourself.

Your entitlement mentality makes you think HR and management positions are less stressful than junior-staff positions. Ignorance is your problem. HR and managers get ideas to establish the organisation. They also face the major risks and threats to the organisation. But you think they just sit there to command you and enjoy money.

Let me ask you a simple equation. What is the heaviest burden of a company?
Oga HR at least you and the management gets good pay and other entitlements. But you guys pays peanuts to staffs who are doing the must difficult part of it all,like the pics explained. Una go dey move with big cars and official drivers.. Ordinary staff will come late once because of traffic or rain,una go deduct him peanut pay ,and add query .. In this part of the world they don't pay ordinary staffs what they deserve. They treat them as slaves..

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by GainBold(m): 8:34pm On Mar 30
The fact
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 8:38pm On Mar 30
Myrepublic:
Oga HR at least you and the management gets good pay and other entitlements. But you guys pays peanuts to staffs who are doing the must difficult part of it all,like the pics explained. Una go dey move with big cars and official drivers.. Ordinary staff will come late once because of traffic or rain,una go deduct him peanut pay ,and add query .. In this part of the world they don't pay ordinary staffs what they deserve. They treat them as slaves..
I am not in a managerial position in any company. I am a fresh graduate, yet to get a job. But I am not a sentimentalist like you. Just because I stated the truth that protects the reputation of managers, you sentimentally concluded that I am in a managerial position in an organisation. This suggests that you are the type that does not support the truth when it does not suit your sentiment. I stand by the truth, irrespective of who it pleases and who it hurts.

Second, many junior staff are underpaid compared to their inputs. But the underpayment does not mean the junior staff outperform managers. Know the difference.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Gadafii: 8:40pm On Mar 30
The HR and management in the firm I work with are carrying a lot, and the staff are still treated with respect, love, support

The atmosphere between HR/MGT and junior staff is very conducive you could barely tell who is who

The pays are good, the bonuses are nice so you as a junior staff you don't have any choice but to be your best, that's the least expected of you

But I understand this is not attainable in every organizations, all I said above is my personal experience and observations

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by Truvelisback(m): 8:53pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
They are underpaid but they are not the ones facing the most stress.
What do you mean? Aren't the employees making the money πŸ’° for the management? Let's use Baking 🍞 company for an example. The employees make or bake and sell for the management whereas the management is to supervise or oversee their activities. I have entered baking companies like Leventies for example. If you have visited a bakery, you would understand what I mean. That's why I said the employees go through most of the stress(as in labour) than the management.
Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by immortalcrown(m): 8:59pm On Mar 30
Truvelisback:
What do you mean? Aren't the employees making the money πŸ’° for the management? Let's use Baking 🍞 company for an example. The employees make or bake and sell for the management whereas the management is to supervise or oversee their activities. I have entered baking companies like Leventies for example. If you have visited a bakery, you would understand what I mean. That's why I said the employees go through most of the stress(as in labour) than the management.
That a worker is underpaid does not mean the worker is the most laboured employee. In other words, that a worker receives the least pay does not mean he or she is the most productive. There is no big grammar here. Why is it difficult for you to understand?

The picture you posted falsely implies that junior workers are the most productive ones in a company. If they are the most productive ones, let them use the strength to start their own companies.

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Re: What Staff Is Carrying Vs What The Staff Is Receiving. by ForensikOrder: 9:13pm On Mar 30
immortalcrown:
That a worker is underpaid does not mean the worker is the most laboured employee. In other words, that a worker receives the least pay does not mean he or she is the most productive. There is no big grammar here. Why is it difficult for you to understand?

The picture you posted falsely implies that junior workers are the most productive ones in a company. If they are the most productive ones, let them use the strength to start their own companies.
Omo, your point dey but make we no forget say no be everyone get the same starting line. To talk say make person wey dey underpaid just go start their own company na to oversimplify the mata. Many factors dey play into why person fit dey receive less pay, and e no always mean say dem no dey work hard or dem no productive. E go good if we fit recognize say the system get as e be, and not all man get the same opportunity or resources to just jump start their own business like that. Make we dey more understanding to the different struggles wey people dey face.

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