MaxInDHouse:


Oh brother please allow them to comment at least any reasonable, honest hearted and sincere follower can see that none of them tried to address the topic of discussion rather they're all after the one who asked the questions.

That's enough for me!

Lies and manipulations as usual....

Straybullet did you even lied before he held you responsible, you pleaded and look elsewhere.

PulsingPurple likewise did respond. You ran away from her only to come back and say PulsingPurple want you to make tangible comment.

MaxInDHouse:
So why are God's people admonished to obey if such order appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not?

JEHOVAH said during the endtime the sun will be darkened and the moon will turn to blood {Joel 2:31} but everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved! Joel 2:32

But what does sun turned out to darkness and moon turn to blood means?

Well that's telling us what will happen during the endtime as there won't be any direct info from God to mankind and all what faithful servants of God have to rely upon is what has been written in the scriptures then is the time of TEST because only humility with strong faith can save anyone at that time {Zephaniah 2:2-3} then is the time to prove our love for the God of our salvation by readiness to bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things and endures all things. 1Corinthians 13:7

The experience of ancient servants of God will help us to remain faithful {Hebrews 12:1} and obedient to the group Jesus is using {Matthew 24:45} they never saw everything clearly yet they put faith in the little things heard and they continue moving ahead with God's united worshipers as one family. John 17:22

So instead of expecting perfection from the Governing Body faithful people throughout the earth today are taking note of how this men are fulfilling what is written in the scriptures along with the millions following them with faith! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

When I said you people are liars, manipulators, hypocrites and lack integrity. I know what I am saying. Your footprint regarding that is enough evidence

So why are God's people admonished to obey if such order appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not?

You will lie that you hardly read my post, that I post nothing tangible yet you are busy addressing all the point that exposed the lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling here. Now you see the common denominator between your GODS of men housed in USA and those you say they are Satan puppets. Your GODS of men are equally Satan's puppet you already told us Jehovah’s organization is influenced by Satan.

JEHOVAH said during the endtime the sun will be darkened and the moon will turn to blood {Joel 2:31} but everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved! Joel 2:32

Had your brains been working properly and not filled with madness and insanities you would have seen the folly here

But what does sun turned out to darkness and moon turn to blood means?

Well that's telling us what will happen during the endtime as there won't be any direct info from God to mankind and all what faithful servants of God have to rely upon is what has been written in the scriptures then is the time of TEST because only humility with strong faith can save anyone at that time {Zephaniah 2:2-3} then is the time to prove our love for the God of our salvation by readiness to bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things and endures all things. 1Corinthians 13:7 [/b

From the above comes.....

Well that's telling us what will happen [b]during the endtime as there won't be any direct info from God to mankind and all what faithful servants of God have to rely upon is what has been written in the scriptures

and yet......

At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

See the contradictions in your madness and insanities peddling brains that exposed the lies and manipulations you are peddling

The experience of ancient servants of God will help us to remain faithful {Hebrews 12:1} and obedient to the group Jesus is using {Matthew 24:45} they never saw everything clearly yet they put faith in the little things heard and they continue moving ahead with God's united worshipers as one family. John 17:22

They never saw everything clearly and your GODS of men saw everything clearly to know when to hide in bunkers or start disguising as worldy people using beards and wearing pants and slacks

So instead of expecting perfection from the Governing Body faithful people throughout the earth today are taking note of how this men are fulfilling what is written in the scriptures along with the millions following them with faith! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Politicians are perfect and are not God's ministers doing what God asked them to do .

Janosky:
Oteneaaron says "I CHANGED my DP".
Oga, Post that picture you REMOVED from your Nairaland moniker profile.
Oteneaaron tell this platform the truth: You REMOVED your picture from your moniker.
You changed your DP to what?
SHAME on you LYING that you changed your DP.

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janonsense

just look at your confusion and insane ramblings of delusion

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Despite all their wailing and blackmailing the lady PulsingPurple still wants my contribution in her thread, just look at the screenshot below, if she truly believes that Maximus has nothing tangible to say about the truth would she have replied with "YES please" ?
So they're all deceiving themselves each of them know in their hearts that they're fighting against the truth!

Max never changes, does he?
Why and how am I a lady? Because Francis said so?
You make it look so shameless whenever you lie.

You politely begged for permission to contribute on my thread, I returned the favour with a polite response.
And now you make it look like I came to beg you to contribute. Arggh

Maybe when you go through my conversations online, you'll see that I'm polite with everyone in general.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many religions and in fact religion is as old as mankind on planet earth but with all the nations in ancient times being in one religion/form of worship or another everyone is saying "God is one"
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

The true religion is the one sanctioned by God or His agent.

God formed a means of worship during the time of the Israelites when He chose them as His special people. This however, does not mean that others elsewhere can't chose to serve God. Job and the community he lived in served God in Uz while the Jews were serving the same God in Egypt and also in Mount Sinai and later in Canaan. I would write an article on this later.

Later however, Jesus showed that what the Father is looking out for is those that will serve Him in spirit and truth. That being the case, religion is secondary to the worship of God. What is essential is worshiping him by means of his son Jesus. Faith in Jesus is the key, not the name of your church.

Currently the church is living in a period Jesus described as the Weed and the Wheat period. (Matt 13) Jesus says that both will grow TOGETHER until the harvest. JW teach that this period has passed and that they are the storehouse where the wheat is gathered. In a later article, I will show what point they are missing out in there conclusions. We are living in a period that the weed and the wheat grow together. During the harvest, when the son of man will come towards the end of the world, he will do the separating of the wheat and the weed, then he will burn up the weed. This hasn't happened yet. So if you're true to God and served Him faithfully, He is seeing you. When that time reach, He will separate you for salvation. If you're not serving in spirit and truth, you will be punished.

Does that mean that you just follow any denomination that profess faith in Christ? No. God has his ordained Stewards, what JWs call faithful and discreet slave. Today, this slave is properly a class of GOs who God divinely/supernaturally contacted for a Ministry, not the 9 men in Warwick. If Jehovah didn't contact you nor divinely ordain you for a ministry and your ministry is not ordained by one who is God's divinely ordained servant, you are operating a human organization. Your organization have no approval from God. However, while that is condemnable, it is still good and best to let God have the final say on those issues. But it is dangerous to form a group that God didn't divinely approve, more especially when the group says that they are the ONLY ones God is using. This is very dangerous because they will put you against the true servants whom God has divinely ordained, unless of course, you don't follow the group leaders unscriptural directions, but approve and obey God's divinely ordained servants.

PulsingPurple:

Maybe when you go through my conversations online, you'll see that I'm polite with everyone in general.

Your comments on the first page of this thread truly shows how POLITE you are with everyone in general!

MaxInDHouse:


Your comments on the first page of this thread truly shows how POLITE you are with everyone in general!

Shame on you for editing the other parts of my reply.

I'm polite with everyone IN GENERAL doesn't mean I'm polite with ABSOLUTELY everyone.

Of course you're the lucky exception. You're the scapegoat.

Sand2022:


The true religion is the one sanctioned by God or His agent.

God formed a means of worship during the time of the Israelites when He chose them as His special people. This however, does not mean that others elsewhere can't chose to serve God. Job and the community he lived in served God in Uz while the Jews were serving the same God in Egypt and also in Mount Sinai and later in Canaan. I would write an article on this later.

Later however, Jesus showed that what the Father is looking out for is those that will serve Him in spirit and truth. That being the case, religion is secondary to the worship of God. What is essential is worshiping him by means of his son Jesus. Faith in Jesus is the key, not the name of your church.

Currently the church is living in a period Jesus described as the Weed and the Wheat period. (Matt 13) Jesus says that both will grow TOGETHER until the harvest. JW teach that this period has passed and that they are the storehouse where the wheat is gathered. In a later article, I will show what point they are missing out in there conclusions. We are living in a period that the weed and the wheat grow together. During the harvest, when the son of man will come towards the end of the world, he will do the separating of the wheat and the weed, then he will burn up the weed. This hasn't happened yet. So if you're true to God and served Him faithfully, He is seeing you. When that time reach, He will separate you for salvation. If you're not serving in spirit and truth, you will be punished.

Does that mean that you just follow any denomination that profess faith in Christ? No. God has his ordained Stewards, what JWs call faithful and discreet slave. Today, this slave is properly a class of GOs who God divinely/supernaturally contacted for a Ministry, not the 9 men in Warwick. If Jehovah didn't contact you nor divinely ordain you for a ministry and your ministry is not ordained by one who is God's divinely ordained servant, you are operating a human organization. Your organization have no approval from God. However, while that is condemnable, it is still good and best to let God have the final say on those issues. But it is dangerous to form a group that God didn't divinely approve, more especially when the group says that they are the ONLY ones God is using. This is very dangerous because they will put you against the true servants whom God has divinely ordained, unless of course, you don't follow the group leaders unscriptural directions, but approve and obey God's divinely ordained servants.

So which religion or church is practicing what Jesus taught today?

PulsingPurple:

Shame on you for editing the other parts of my reply. I'm polite with everyone IN GENERAL doesn't mean I'm polite with ABSOLUTELY everyone. Of course you're the lucky exception. You're the scapegoat.

Sorry it's obvious i don't know the meaning of "EVERYONE IN GENERAL" but now that you've explained i got it perfectly that it doesn't really mean everyone ABSOLUTELY.
Thanks!

PulsingPurple:


Max never changes, does he?
Why and how am I a lady? Because Francis said so?
You make it look so shameless whenever you lie.

You politely begged for permission to contribute on my thread, I returned the favour with a polite response.
And now you make it look like I came to beg you to contribute. Arggh

Maybe when you go through my conversations online, you'll see that I'm polite with everyone in general.

He can project any of his failures and failings on others to look good and say he is in the truth.

MaxInDHouse:


So which religion or church is practicing what Jesus taught today?

Many churches practice what Jesus taught today.

Preaching:

Pentecostals, Evangelicals, Catholics, JWs, Mormons, Waldenses etc preach.

Mormons, JWs and Waldenses preach door to door. Both Jesus and his apostles mostly preached publicly. They do stand and preach to passersby, groups of people, families etc. It is a matter of debate if by house to house it means door to door. Another point not clear is what really is a house to house preaching. Knocking door to door? While that is not wrong in itself, as preaching method that effectively reach people is what Jesus will be concerned about, not style. But what we can't neglect is the fact that house to house preaching then may just be what we can call today a pastoral visit or a return visit. Eg, Jesus preached publicly, after that, he went as a visitor to Zacheus house. There he preached. After he did go to another person's house. These could be the house to house preaching the bible have in mind. Paul did get an invitation to people's house after preaching publicly as well. So the major preaching method then was public preaching, after, they do get invited to houses to preach as well. This doesn't mean that there are not few ocassional they may go to houses, but that doesn't seem to be the norm. The culture followed by JWs today was not the case then. Even if there such few cases as may be gleaned from Matt 10, it surely is rare. They mostly engage in public witnessing. Churches do this form of witnessing more by preaching with a mic and speaker in markets, streets, crusades etc. Standing on a road with a Mobile Cart isn't the biblical pattern of public witnessing.

But style is little an issue. The point is to reach the unsaved with the message of repentance.

Preaching Topic:
The major preaching message should be repentance and faith in Jesus. Of course God's kingdom needs to be advertised, but the main focus is repentance from dead works and faith in Jesus.

Jesus didn't preach the kingdom by telling people about it. He often says "repent for the the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near". The point is on repentance. Why? So as to enter the kingdom, so as not to be destroyed by the kingdom. Of course there are other things one can preach about, but without repentance and faith is Jesus, there is problem. While it is not bad to continue an interest shown by conducting a bible study that in many cases, the study last for years for just one individual. It is not a sin, but that is not a biblical pattern. It's just a move to indoctrinate people to become JWs. What should be done?

Preach the message of repentance to the UNSAVED, invite him to a church. It is there in the church that he will be taught "all the things that Jesus has commanded", not in his house. And you don't need to cover a book for a year or more to get baptized. If he accepts Jesus as his personal lord and savior and has repented of his sins, get him baptized bro and continue to teach him as he comes to church. Simple! That is a pattern we can see in the scriptures.

Here the church is ahead.


Love:

All denominations love themselves, even the 'tax collector's and sinners' love themselves.

Love for neighbor:

All denominations show some love for neighbors, but churches show far more love for neighbors than JWs, Mormons, Scientology, Amish community. Why? These operate as control groups. They have the "We vs Them" mentality. So they operate more within there circles than outside.

JWs don't go for war. This I feel is a plus to some extent, That is me as a person. but I won't do a comparison here as joining the military should be a personal decision. Jehovah and Jesus still fights war, the saints will fight war in Armageddon. Let's say for me, I don't like the thought of people fighting.

The churches are far more loving. They engage in humanitarian work for communities, less privileged, widows, orphans. Have hospitals, schools etc that impact on all even those not their members. JWs on the other hands have no program for even their own widows and orphans even when this is a form of worship, let alone widows of other religion.

JWs have as plus giving out publications free of charge, even bibles. They are less money centric than churches in that they don't force their members to bring money by stipulating penalty for not doing so. Of course, there may be a hidden reason for this like the Jimmy Swaggart case. But that is nonetheless a plus.

Use of Bible:

Many churches use and rely on the bible for their doctrines. But they don't engage in much indoctrination and brainwashing as JWs and other control groups do. JWs are smart when it comes to getting what they want using the bible. But the truth is, bible understanding is not their gift at all.

As a plus, the JWs carry their members along so well in order to indoctrinate them. One of the ways to get these into your psyche is through:

1. question and answer method.
These makes the congregant take the study materials home, do and home study, mark the answers before coming to meetings. This is an effective method of sending a teaching into your brain, esp if you comment in your own words. Before you comment in your own words, they teaching must have sunk in, you can then explain it in your own words. Powerful tool.

2. Preaching.
You learn well when you teach someone else what you have learned. This method esp the bible study session helps them get the teaching into your head. Perhaps that's why they demand that all must have a bible study even when there isn't any scriptural precedence.

3. Becoming Your Sole Spot:
They make videos on science, home economy, family life, business etc, so that you don't have to get any information elsewhere except from them. That is another trapping tool. They want all of you for themselves.

Evidence of the divine:.

JWs score zero on this one. No vision, angelic visitation, healing, speaking in tongues etc. This is a very important evidence of God using a group. If God uses a group, He will surely contact them or show supernatural evidence of such. JWs have none.

Worship style:

The churches are more closer to the type of worship described in the bible. Read through 1cor 14 and see how early christians had their worship. You will notice a place for tongues, prophecy, enterpreters etc. JWs only feature songs and prayer. It's as if 1cor 14 does not exist.

If you're looking for which church, find the one whose spiritual leader have evidence of divine appointment. Then obey all that the leader tells you to do? No. That is what JW GB will tell you. Your ultimate leader is Jesus. But treat him with respect as God's appointed person. Some of these anointed men even operate a non denominational churches, others don't. S. L. Osborn was truly anointed. Kumuyi is another man I am investigating.

I still have a whole lot. But let me stop here.

MaxInDHouse:


So which religion or church is practicing what Jesus taught today?

He typed religion or church. The madness and insanities peddling emanating from your brains is causing confusion in your thought process.

The religion and church of Jehovah's Witnesses is the only one practising true religion. That's what you want to see people dance to as the music you play.

Even your Bible and your own words cannot support your position regarding

1. Your Jehovah’s witnesses organization
2. Your church of christ... (Straybullet thread😂😂)
3. Your better performing performance group

All of the above show that you remain a liar and manipulator peddling a religious organization established Russell than not peddling the word of God you say you believe.

achorladey:


He can project any of his failures and failings on others to look good and say he is in the truth.

It's like you referred to me as a lady too... 💔😂

Sand2022:


Many churches practice what Jesus taught today.

Preaching:

Pentecostals, Evangelicals, Catholics, JWs, Mormons, Waldenses etc preach.

Mormons, JWs and Waldenses preach door to door. Both Jesus and his apostles mostly preached publicly. They do stand and preach to passersby, groups of people, families etc. It is a matter of debate if by house to house it means door to door. Another point not clear is what really is a house to house preaching. Knocking door to door? While that is not wrong in itself, as preaching method that effectively reach people is what Jesus will be concerned about, not style. But what we can't neglect is the fact that house to house preaching then may just be what we can call today a pastoral visit or a return visit. Eg, Jesus preached publicly, after that, he went as a visitor to Zacheus house. There he preached. After he did go to another person's house. These could be the house to house preaching the bible have in mind. Paul did get an invitation to people's house after preaching publicly as well. So the major preaching method then was public preaching, after, they do get invited to houses to preach as well. This doesn't mean that there are not few ocassional they may go to houses, but that doesn't seem to be the norm. The culture followed by JWs today was not the case then. Even if there such few cases as may be gleaned from Matt 10, it surely is rare. They mostly engage in public witnessing. Churches do this form of witnessing more by preaching with a mic and speaker in markets, streets, crusades etc. Standing on a road with a Mobile Cart isn't the biblical pattern of public witnessing.

But style is little an issue. The point is to reach the unsaved with the message of repentance.

Preaching Topic:
The major preaching message should be repentance and faith in Jesus. Of course God's kingdom needs to be advertised, but the main focus is repentance from dead works and faith in Jesus.

Jesus didn't preach the kingdom by telling people about it. He often says "repent for the the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near". The point is on repentance. Why? So as to enter the kingdom, so as not to be destroyed by the kingdom. Of course there are other things one can preach about, but without repentance and faith is Jesus, there is problem. While it is not bad to continue an interest shown by conducting a bible study that in many cases, the study last for years for just one individual. It is not a sin, but that is not a biblical pattern. It's just a move to indoctrinate people to become JWs. What should be done?

Preach the message of repentance to the UNSAVED, invite him to a church. It is there in the church that he will be taught "all the things that Jesus has commanded", not in his house. And you don't need to cover a book for a year or more to get baptized. If he accepts Jesus as his personal lord and savior and has repented of his sins, get him baptized bro and continue to teach him as he comes to church. Simple! That is a pattern we can see in the scriptures.

Here the church is ahead.


Love:

All denominations love themselves, even the 'tax collector's and sinners' love themselves.

Love for neighbor:

All denominations show some love for neighbors, but churches show far more love for neighbors than JWs, Mormons, Scientology, Amish community. Why? These operate as control groups. They have the "We vs Them" mentality. So they operate more within there circles than outside.

JWs don't go for war. This I feel is a plus to some extent, That is me as a person. but I won't do a comparison here as joining the military should be a personal decision. Jehovah and Jesus still fights war, the saints will fight war in Armageddon. Let's say for me, I don't like the thought of people fighting.

The churches are far more loving. They engage in humanitarian work for communities, less privileged, widows, orphans. Have hospitals, schools etc that impact on all even those not their members. JWs on the other hands have no program for even their own widows and orphans even when this is a form of worship, let alone widows of other religion.

JWs have as plus giving out publications free of charge, even bibles. They are less money centric than churches in that they don't force their members to bring money by stipulating penalty for not doing so. Of course, there may be a hidden reason for this like the Jimmy Swaggart case. But that is nonetheless a plus.

Use of Bible:

Many churches use and rely on the bible for their doctrines. But they don't engage in much indoctrination and brainwashing as JWs and other control groups do. JWs are smart when it comes to getting what they want using the bible. But the truth is, bible understanding is not their gift at all.

As a plus, the JWs carry their members along so well in order to indoctrinate them. One of the ways to get these into your psyche is through:

1. question and answer method.
These makes the congregant take the study materials home, do and home study, mark the answers before coming to meetings. This is an effective method of sending a teaching into your brain, esp if you comment in your own words. Before you comment in your own words, they teaching must have sunk in, you can then explain it in your own words. Powerful tool.

2. Preaching.
You learn well when you teach someone else what you have learned. This method esp the bible study session helps them get the teaching into your head. Perhaps that's why they demand that all must have a bible study even when there isn't any scriptural precedence.

3. Becoming Your Sole Spot:
They make videos on science, home economy, family life, business etc, so that you don't have to get any information elsewhere except from them. That is another trapping tool. They want all of you for themselves.

Evidence of the divine:.

JWs score zero on this one. No vision, angelic visitation, healing, speaking in tongues etc. This is a very important evidence of God using a group. If God uses a group, He will surely contact them or show supernatural evidence of such. JWs have none.

Worship style:

The churches are more closer to the type of worship described in the bible. Read through 1cor 14 and see how early christians had their worship. You will notice a place for tongues, prophecy, enterpreters etc. JWs only feature songs and prayer. It's as if 1cor 14 does not exist.

If you're looking for which church, find the one whose spiritual leader have evidence of divine appointment. Then obey all that the leader tells you to do? No. That is what JW GB will tell you. Your ultimate leader is Jesus. But treat him with respect as God's appointed person. Some of these anointed men even operate a non denominational churches, others don't. S. L. Osborn was truly anointed. Kumuyi is another man I am investigating.

I still have a whole lot. But let me stop here.

Those living around Ota and environs will notice the simple difference between Winners of Oyedepo and Jehovah’s witnesses. Both have an assembly ground along that road. Whose impact is felt the most regarding bring succour to the plight of people along that road?

The churches are far more loving. They engage in humanitarian work for communities, less privileged, widows, orphans. Have hospitals, schools etc that impact on all even those not their members. JWs on the other hands have no program for even their own widows and orphans even when this is a form of worship, let alone widows of other religion.

MaxInDHouse don't want anyone to believe the bold since none of these religious organization signed a decree like their GODS that going to war is AUTOMATIC disfellowshipping aka disassociation . You can see how they easily start putting on beards, wearing pants and slacks to meetings simply because their GODS decreed they don't do so. If indeed those things are from within their hearts members will retain status quo

PulsingPurple:


It's like you referred to me as a lady too... 💔😂

Looool! Really?

Sand2022:

Many churches practice what Jesus taught today.
Preaching:
Pentecostals, Evangelicals, Catholics, JWs, Mormons, Waldenses etc preach.

Jesus commanded his disciples not to hate one another {John 13:34} to the point where they will have to raise weapons against one another because Satan is the one behind killings among people who professed the same faith {John 8:44} he also prayed that they should have the same line of thought {John 17:22 compared to 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} he also warned them not to go about with religious titles {Matthew 23:10} and they should not be part of Satan's world {John 17:14-16} because in Satan's world hatred and killings is what will characterize them during the end time! Revelations 6:3-4

So i totally disagree with you it's either you present one religious group having the same belief globally as Jesus taught and prayed for his disciples to be or you don't have the answer. Over 41,000 different religions with contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be said to be practicing what one person taught that is broad daylight scam!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus commanded his disciples not to hate one another {John 13:34} to the point where they will have to raise weapons against one another because Satan is the one behind killings among people who professed the same faith {John 8:44} he also prayed that they should have the same line of thought {John 17:22 compared to 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} he also warned them not to go about with religious titles {Matthew 23:10} and they should not be part of Satan's world {John 17:14-16} because in Satan's world hatred and killings is what will characterize them during the end time! Revelations 6:3-4

So i totally disagree with you it's either you present one religious group having the same belief globally as Jesus taught and prayed for his disciples to be or you don't have the answer. Over 41,000 different religions with contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be said to be practicing what one person taught that is broad daylight scam!

In summary what makes Jehovah’s witnesses the only one practicing true religion is the DECREE of the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses that members are not allowed to go to war they are not the true religion based on what the Bible says

achorladey:

In summary what makes Jehovah’s witnesses the only one practicing true religion is the DECREE of the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses that members are not allowed to go to war they are not the true religion based on what the Bible says

At least if all people are obeying the DECREE of the GOVERNING BODY speedy increase of widows and orphans will not be {James 1:27} as there won't be any reason to raise weapons against your neighbour when you believe in the same SUPREME BEING! John 13:34-35

You can't change that with all your arrogance!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus commanded his disciples not to hate one another {John 13:34} to the point where they will have to raise weapons against one another because Satan is the one behind killings among people who professed the same faith {John 8:44} he also prayed that they should have the same line of thought {John 17:22 compared to 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} he also warned them not to go about with religious titles {Matthew 23:10} and they should not be part of Satan's world {John 17:14-16} because in Satan's world hatred and killings is what will characterize them during the end time! Revelations 6:3-4

So i totally disagree with you it's either you present one religious group having the same belief globally as Jesus taught and prayed for his disciples to be or you don't have the answer. Over 41,000 different religions with contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be said to be practicing what one person taught that is broad daylight scam!

You're free to have a different opinion. But don't be quick to forget that the Jews, who were God's people fought wars. As at the time they were fighting wars, God's law still stated that they should love their neighbors as themselves. In fact Jews even fought fellow Jews at times in war. While I personally don't like wars, our wish can't be God's command.

The issue isn't just what God allowed on earth for one to protect his territory as JW will say. In the book of Daniel, and Angel says he was going to fight a demonic angel that resisted him as he was coming to deliver message to Daniel. Cornelius was an army officer who received the holy spirit even when he was in the military. The praetorian guards who held Paul still accepted Christ. No scriptural record said they all resigned. Here John's responds to those in military service:

John 3
14 Also, those in military service were asking him: “What should we do?” And he said to them: “Do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with your provisions.”

Secondly, Jehovah is called "Jehovah of Armies".

Jesus according to JW is a leader of an angelic army in heaven. In fact according to JWs, Jesus fought the Devil and his armies in 1914.

During Armageddon, according to JWs, Both Jesus and the Jehovah's witnesses who are anointed will fight the war of Armageddon.

Here again is a clear indication that the GB aren't thorough in their research. Personally, I would advise that the issue be left to personal decision. This is not area to be dogmatic.

2. Jesus prayed for unity.

Yes even at 1cor 1:10, having the same line of thought is advised. But this a reasonable advise, but that doesn't mean that if there is ever differences of opinion, God doesn't use them. Because of imperfection differences of opinion can't be avoided. What needs to be done however, is that they should be unified under one head, Christ. Why can we not say that differences of opinion doesnt mean that God doesn't use the so called scattered doctrines in Christendom?

1. In Judaism that Jesus was part and parcel of, there were differences of opinions and doctrines. Pharisees, Sadducees and the Zealots have different theological understanding. Jesus and his disciples differ from these 3. John the Baptist and his disciples have a slightly different opinions. Eg John and his disciples fast, Jesus and his disciples doesn't fast, at a time, John disciples kept baptizing under John's baptism for many years. However, all these groups worship in the same temple, sang the same songs, etc John disciples and that of Jesus were accepted. One man even performed miracles using Jesus name. That man would have a different opinion as well since he doesn't gather with Jesus.

After pentecost, Jesus fellowers in Jerusalem follower the law, while Paul's church outside Jerusalem were instructed not to follow the law. All were accepted by God. I have an article on this. Go read it.

Even in that Corinthian Cong you quoted, some say they belong to Paul, some to Apollo's, some to Peter, some to Christ. While unity is essential, God doesn't mean uniformity or a cultlike organization as JW do have. Christ also says he came to cause a division. So he expected that there would be a level of different opinions. But we should all worship together regardless.

Sand2022:

You're free to have a different opinion. But don't be quick to forget that the Jews, who were God's people fought wars. As at the time they were fighting wars, God's law still stated that they should love their neighbors as themselves. In fact Jews even fought fellow Jews at times in war. While I personally don't like wars, our wish can't be God's command.

So when people fight wars in ancient Israel was God supporting both sides?

Funny atheists claiming believers.

Through Jesus' teachings believers have become sons of God {John 1:11-12} therefore since Israelites fought wars in ancient times the sons of God bought with the blood of His Son can also engage in wars against one another to kill their fellow believers shey?

Remember that God's people must take permission from Him before going to wars which means they must pray to Him so which side was He, both sides?

MaxInDHouse:


At least if all people are obeying the DECREE of the GOVERNING BODY speedy increase of widows and orphans will not be {James 1:27} as there won't be any reason to raise weapons against your neighbour when you believe in the same SUPREME BEING! John 13:34-35

You can't change that with all your arrogance!

What your madness and insanities peddling brains does best is to project your failures and shortcomings on others just like your GODS of men does right from their existence. Such failures include peddling their arrogance as being the only true Christians, true religion and like you love to sing better performing performance group

At least if all people are obeying the DECREE of the GOVERNING BODY speedy increase of widows and orphans will not be

1. In the midst of your "peace, joy love" religious organization like you want us to accept without members going to war crisis exist, crisis that had led to death of members.

2. In the midst of your "peace, joy love" religious organization like you want us to accept without members going to war crisis exist. Children gets disfellowship and their parents throw them out of the house to become orphans while their parents are still alive

3. In the midst of your "peace, joy love" religious organization like you want us to accept without members going to war crisis exist, many women have become widows because their husbands choose to look for young cold blooded wives after dumping the ones they call old cargoes(scheming to end a marriage). Your madness and insanities peddling brains didn't see the letter sent alongside putting on pants and slacks by women, regimented Bible conscience regarding disfellowshipping decree?

Here it is as YOUR GODS of men stated it number.....

16. . Caution: Although a repentant individual should be reinstated without delay, such sins as child abuse, apostasy, and scheming to end a marriage require special caution. (2 Pet. 2:9, 10) The elders must protect the flock.—John 10:11-13.

Do you know what those scheming really is in real life? Sit down there make slacks and pant dey wear you

{James 1:27}

Your religious organization fail woefully regarding James 1:27. You want to be identified with James 1:27 now your John 13:34,35 no work again like before. It is only a liar and manipulator like you whose brains peddles madness and insanities will say your religious organization is unspotted from the world after the atrocities in Malawi and the DECREE of your GODS regarding war and ALTERNATIVE SERVICE which are all under those you call Satan's organisation.

as there won't be any reason to raise weapons against your neighbour when you believe in the same SUPREME BEING! John 13:34-35

Members wants to break the another of another in your assembly ground with weapons available after 7-8 hours of spiritual food in one of your physical paradise abi na dedicated building to Jehovah . We still hear of members killing one another, members jumping from headquarters building to their death.

You can't change that with all your arrogance!

You have unfettered access to keep peddling arrogance alongside your madness and insanities peddling brains

MaxInDHouse:


So when people fight wars in ancient Israel was God supporting both sides?

Funny atheists claiming believers.

Through Jesus' teachings believers have become sons of God {John 1:11-12} therefore since Israelites fought wars in ancient times the sons of God bought with the blood of His Son can also engage in wars against one another to kill their fellow believers shey?

Remember that God's people must take permission from Him before going to wars which means they must pray to Him so which side was He, both sides?

It is no longer God don't support wars but.......

So when people fight wars in ancient Israel was God supporting both sides?

Your brains go soon reset. Your religious organization preach SELF DEFENSE, every nation has the right and military formation to do so. . Allow Jehovah to support both side. They are God's ministers against wrongdoers. Na Jehovah give them swords to carry. Go read am for Romans 13: 1-5

Funny atheists claiming believers.

No room to peddle your madness and insanities again you enter you usual mode of calling people names and placing remarks on them. How does this change the title of your thread?

Through Jesus' teachings believers have become sons of God {John 1:11-12} therefore since Israelites fought wars in ancient times the sons of God bought with the blood of His Son can also engage in wars against one another to kill their fellow believers shey?

Where did Jesus says they cannot? When a soldier impress you for a mile go two miles. Na who talk am? Satan's orgf abi for your madness and insanities peddling brains

Remember that God's people must take permission from Him before going to wars which means they must pray to Him so which side was He, both sides?

The God's ministers mentioned in Romans 13: 1-5 already have swords in their hands and you are not the one to define what evildoers mean. They have their mandate already and they execute them readily and speedily. You love praising USA government to the high heavens because your GODS of men find comfort and freedom in the government running that country. That same country that it's political leaders do their work of going to wars to make their citizens safe

Sand2022:


You're free to have a different opinion. But don't be quick to forget that the Jews, who were God's people fought wars. As at the time they were fighting wars, God's law still stated that they should love their neighbors as themselves. In fact Jews even fought fellow Jews at times in war. While I personally don't like wars, our wish can't be God's command.

The issue isn't just what God allowed on earth for one to protect his territory as JW will say. In the book of Daniel, and Angel says he was going to fight a demonic angel that resisted him as he was coming to deliver message to Daniel. Cornelius was an army officer who received the holy spirit even when he was in the military. The praetorian guards who held Paul still accepted Christ. No scriptural record said they all resigned. Here John's responds to those in military service:

John 3
14 Also, those in military service were asking him: “What should we do?” And he said to them: “Do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with your provisions.”

Secondly, Jehovah is called "Jehovah of Armies".

Jesus according to JW is a leader of an angelic army in heaven. In fact according to JWs, Jesus fought the Devil and his armies in 1914.

During Armageddon, according to JWs, Both Jesus and the Jehovah's witnesses who are anointed will fight the war of Armageddon.

Here again is a clear indication that the GB aren't thorough in their research. Personally, I would advise that the issue be left to personal decision. This is not area to be dogmatic.

2. Jesus prayed for unity.

Yes even at 1cor 1:10, having the same line of thought is advised. But this a reasonable advise, but that doesn't mean that if there is ever differences of opinion, God doesn't use them. Because of imperfection differences of opinion can't be avoided. What needs to be done however, is that they should be unified under one head, Christ. Why can we not say that differences of opinion doesnt mean that God doesn't use the so called scattered doctrines in Christendom?

1. In Judaism that Jesus was part and parcel of, there were differences of opinions and doctrines. Pharisees, Sadducees and the Zealots have different theological understanding. Jesus and his disciples differ from these 3. John the Baptist and his disciples have a slightly different opinions. Eg John and his disciples fast, Jesus and his disciples doesn't fast, at a time, John disciples kept baptizing under John's baptism for many years. However, all these groups worship in the same temple, sang the same songs, etc John disciples and that of Jesus were accepted. One man even performed miracles using Jesus name. That man would have a different opinion as well since he doesn't gather with Jesus.

After pentecost, Jesus fellowers in Jerusalem follower the law, while Paul's church outside Jerusalem were instructed not to follow the law. All were accepted by God. I have an article on this. Go read it.

Even in that Corinthian Cong you quoted, some say they belong to Paul, some to Apollo's, some to Peter, some to Christ. While unity is essential, God doesn't mean uniformity or a cultlike organization as JW do have. Christ also says he came to cause a division. So he expected that there would be a level of different opinions. But we should all worship together regardless.

We are following the examples of Jesus Christ and the first century Christians. If you like, go and fight and kill unasef... What we are doing is something the world cannot do. There's no reference that Jesus fought or his disciples...
A whole epistle of nonsense is what you have written
Even in christendom, they are always criticized for their support in wars in the spirit of nationalism, ethnicity too and politics. We are on part of the world and we don't do such nonsense. If you want to carry gun and fight, you are free...

achorladey:

Religious organization preach SELF DEFENSE,

And that should includes joining thousands for military training to go and kill your supposed fellow believers shey? Isaiah 2:4
Then in what way do you apply the LOVE Jesus commanded his disciples to have for their enemies? Luke 6:27-28

achorladey:

Religious organization preach SELF DEFENSE,

every nation has the right and military formation to do so. Allow Jehovah to support both side.[/quote]
Atheist! Your own god will support it's beloved worshipers to go to war against themselves while telling them to love themselves shey?

“‘You must not take vengeance nor hold a grudge against the sons of your people, and you must love your fellow man as yourself. I am Jehovah. Leviticus 19:18

With the above your own god doesn't recognize your fellow believers as your own people shey? Matthew 12:46-50

achorladey:

They are God's ministers against wrongdoers. Na Jehovah give them swords to carry. Go read am for Romans 13: 1-5

Atheist!
When Israelites wanted to apply God's law that says a rapist should be punished and the men of Benjamin refused to hand over the rapists in their midst instead of Israelites to go and ask God for what to do they picked up weapons against the Benjaminites and Jehovah stepped aside without supporting any side.
WHY?
Because it's wrong to form battle line against our fellow believers!
We must know whose side Jehovah is and not rely on our weapons or number! Judges 20:35

At Romans 13:1-5 God's word made it clear to Jehovah's Witnesses that before God's kingdom comes Satan and his agents must rule and maintain laws based on whatever they have decreed we must make sure we obey their rules and stay clear off their lanes because they have the right to punish whoever stands against their orders. When the kingdom of our God comes they will all be wiped away! Daniel 2:44

Your arrogance can never ever change that!

Aemmyjah:

We are following the examples of Jesus Christ and the first century Christians. If you like, go and fight and kill unasef... What we are doing is something the world cannot do. There's no reference that Jesus fought or his disciples...
A whole epistle of nonsense is what you have written. Even in christendom, they are always criticized for their support in wars in the spirit of nationalism, ethnicity too and politics. We are on part of the world and we don't do such nonsense. If you want to carry gun and fight, you are free...

They can go to war against their fellow believers and kill one another while preaching and teaching to carry the message of peace and hope to all the nations of the world {Matthew 28:19-20} after all they are doing miracles in their churches a sign that their god supports whatever they do afterwards even when they go to war against their neighbours! Matthew 7:21-23

Ọmọ these are people claiming they are Bible Scholars o, i wonder how scholars can't have the same line of thought {John 17:22; Ephesians 4:3} yet claiming they have the same teacher {Matthew 23:8} and later they will carry weapons against themselves due to racism engineered by politics to kill not just unbelievers o but their own fellow believers whom their supposed teacher referred to as their brothers in faith! Matthew 12:46-50 compare to 23:8

MaxInDHouse:


At least if all people are obeying the DECREE of the GOVERNING BODY speedy increase of widows and orphans will not be {James 1:27} as there won't be any reason to raise weapons against your neighbour when you believe in the same SUPREME BEING! John 13:34-35

You can't change that with all your arrogance!

Ignore him
He's of no use to anyone on nairaland
Honestly, his condition is very shameful and pitiable
According to him, his talk was like CO or GB. He could handle parts well... He can even add that he's the one that selected the governing body members sef... He must have had good talent right and was appreciated in the congregation... Now what is he doing? He's peddling his madness all over Nairaland... All these experiences just convince me that this is the Way... It's better not to even know Jehovah and walk in ignorance than to know him and leave him.
In my former church, I was a drummer, chorister, usher and Pastor's favorite since I assisted him with chores but my heart was far away from God and I was determined I'll stop going to any church once I enter school. How will I enjoy worshiping a God that causes suffering? I prayed to God to help me find the truth if it truly exists cos to me, all religions are purely not from him and he's helped me...
In my congregation, I do receive positive comments too but it does not go to my head and I like it that way cos it helps me stay humble. I don't spend time on my former religion but I am actively working on helping people spiritually and the results, I only thank Jehovah...

That guy claiming to have talent is now basically useless and we can all see that. He has no religion to mention, he's not sharing anything upbuilding than attack us... Once a man has been handed over to Satan, Satan uses him seriously... Not one person has received any encouraging, insightful comments from his regarding the Bible. Either all he said he did was a lie or Satan has wiped it all away from him...
Like Stephen Lett says, Talent without modesty is bad... We thank Jehovah and the elders who did not waste time to expel the wicked one from the congregation... Ask him if the cong has stopped operating since his expulsion...
NONSENSE

MaxInDHouse:


They can go to war against their fellow believers and kill one another while preaching and teaching to carry the message of peace and hope to all the nations of the world {Matthew 28:19-20} after all they are doing miracles in their churches a sign that their god supports whatever they do afterwards even when they go to war against their neighbours! Matthew 7:21-23

Ọmọ these are people claiming they are Bible Scholars o, i wonder how scholars can't have the same line of thought {John 17:22; Ephesians 4:3} yet claiming they have the same teacher {Matthew 23:8} and later they will carry weapons against themselves due to racism engineered by politics to kill not just unbelievers o but their own fellow believers whom their supposed teacher referred to as their brothers in faith! Matthew 12:46-50 compare to 23:8

Don't mind him
We will never go to war
It's that simple
Stupid Apostate trying to tell us what to do
Let him go and ask Jesus and his disciples why they did not fight battles then since they were serving Jehovah of armies

Aemmyjah:

Ignore him
He's of no use to anyone on nairaland
Honestly, his condition is very shameful and pitiable
According to him, his talk was like CO or GB. He could handle parts well... He can even add that he's the one that selected the governing body members sef... He must have had good talent right and was appreciated in the congregation... Now what is he doing? He's peddling his madness all over Nairaland... All these experiences just convince me that this is the Way... It's better not to even know Jehovah and walk in ignorance than to know him and leave him.
In my former church, I was a drummer, chorister, usher and Pastor's favorite since I assisted him with chores but my heart was far away from God and I was determined I'll stop going to any church once I enter school. How will I enjoy worshiping a God that causes suffering? I prayed to God to help me find the truth if it truly exists cos to me, all religions are purely not from him and he's helped me...
In my congregation, I do receive positive comments too but it does not go to my head and I like it that way cos it helps me stay humble. I don't spend time on my former religion but I am actively working on helping people spiritually and the results, I only thank Jehovah...

That guy claiming to have talent is now basically useless and we can all see that. He has no religion to mention, he's not sharing anything upbuilding than attack us... Once a man has been handed over to Satan, Satan uses him seriously... Not one person has received any encouraging, insightful comments from his regarding the Bible. Either all he said he did was a lie or Satan has wiped it all away from him...
Like Stephen Lett says, Talent without modesty is bad... We thank Jehovah and the elders who did not waste time to expel the wicked one from the congregation... Ask him if the cong has stopped operating since his expulsion... NONSENSE

Don't be surprised that he still attends meetings regularly just to pick one or two things to use against God's organization when he comes to chat with his fellow atheists on Nairaland!

Aemmyjah:

Don't mind him
We will never go to war
It's that simple
Stupid Apostate trying to tell us what to do
Let him go and ask Jesus and his disciples why they did not fight battles then since they were serving Jehovah of armies

If this one lived during the time Jesus and his first century disciples walked the earth he will surely be among those persecuting them for preaching to Jews that Jehovah has sent His only begotten Son to stop us from going to war against our neighbors.
But today since Jesus and his first century disciples aren't here now he wants to speak for them that they didn't go to war because they have a special work to do which doesn't concern those claiming Christians today!

MaxInDHouse:


Don't be surprised that he still attends meetings regularly just to pick one or two things to use against God's organization when he comes to chat with his fellow atheists on Nairaland!

We are aware some of them attend our meeting and convention
It saddens me that someone will hear the encouraging talks, demonstrations but he's not moved at all. It's the local announcement they want to hear if it's something they can run to social media and wail. How will someone attend 3 day convention and not gain anything?
In 2021 or 2022, one of them said that we are homophobic cos of the dramatization where a teacher ask one of our sister 'I suppose you have gay members in your church' and she said No, we don't. The stupid was using it to show the LGBT community that we don't consider their sexuality.
In some places, on convention days, they stand close to where we have assemblies and carry their placards and say nonsense against us as we try to enter the assembly hall or stadium... This people are just mad for nothing... How will someone leave his house to disturb people going to convention

Aemmyjah:


We are aware some of them attend our meeting and convention
It saddens me that someone will hear the encouraging talks, demonstrations but he's not moved at all. It's the local announcement they want to hear if it's something they can run to social media and wail. How will someone attend 3 day convention and not gain anything?
In 2021 or 2022, one of them said that we are homophobic cos of the dramatization where a teacher ask one of our sister 'I suppose you have gay members in your church' and she said No, we don't. The stupid was using it to show the LGBT community that we don't consider their sexuality.
In some places, on convention days, they stand close to where we have assemblies and carry their placards and say nonsense against us as we try to enter the assembly hall or stadium... This people are just mad for nothing... How will someone leave his house to disturb people going to convention

My brother Satan is using POLITICS to recruit agents like him just as he used it to make the Pharisees and Sadducees in Jesus' day his children! John 8:44

Below thread on politics is entitled:

'Let the nations die so that humanity may live'

https://www.nairaland.com/8016566/let-nations-die-humanity-may/2#128713103

This is what achorladey has in mind to say as to the killings of his neighbours due to politics.

achorladey:

The way to go in order to stop the lazy governors from being lazy and really hold them responsible for their actions and inactions, then stop the overbloated representatives from milking this country dry.

Yet God's organization that's preaching against politics he would spend all his time criticizing us but then he is in support of KILLING those in political offices! Luke 6:45

MaxInDHouse:


My brother Satan is using POLITICS to recruit agents like him just as he used it to make the Pharisees and Sadducees in Jesus' day his children! John 8:44

Below thread on politics is entitled:

'Let the nations die so that humanity may live'

https://www.nairaland.com/8016566/let-nations-die-humanity-may/2#128713103

This is what achorladey has in mind to say as to the killings of his neighbours due to politics.



Yet God's organization that's preaching against politics he would spend all his time criticizing us but then he is in support of KILLING those in political offices! Luke 6:45

He's an hypocrite
From a talented MS in the cong to Satan's chief insanity peddler on NL