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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Ngorbungor(m): 9:20pm On Apr 07, 2024 |
Obiedun:May your bitter cry never ceases at the mention of Obi. Obi came to an election with virtually an unknown party, no Governor, Senator, Rep member, even local government chairmen, a structureless party, nothing to even protect his vote and he still got 6.1million vote, destroy Tinubu in his own State with an APC governor, incumbent Speaker, and Ministers with just 8-9 month to election. Please Obi is not una mate. Now his is now building the bridge you |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Emyogalanya: 7:21am On Apr 08, 2024 |
benuejosh:Thats how una over Hype kwankwaso till he ended up being limited to only kano his home state. Now una don start with el Rufai his own will even be worse cos na only his one senatorial zone he go pin down put. Continue. The two guys have no reall electoral value. Atilu big pass them. He can only be in the class of sowore nothing more |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Emyogalanya: 7:24am On Apr 08, 2024 |
Ngorbungor:6.1 m? With irev Shut down. And glitches |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 9:50am On Apr 08, 2024 |
slivertongue:You are right. Furthermore, with his tour of the north, Obi is now lowering a lot of the defenses they had against him and the impression they had of him which is good. Even if it’s 5000 new people he convinces in the north, that’s an addition. So, let him carry on |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by slivertongue: 3:20pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:The way Obi was received in the North in 2022-23 tells you that we have nothing against him. Obi is not responsible for any challenge the North is facing. No Northerner can say obi said anything negative about us. Infact in the run up to the election we had nothing against him, nothing tangible |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
slivertongue:Then why did they dispatch Imams against him to castigate his character and campaign against him? |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by slivertongue: 4:20pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:Elites strategy to stay relevant. Most Northerners are sensitive to religion, thus the deployment of anti Islam sentiments against Obi. some knew it was a false accusation but couldnt force the people to see Obi as an amiable personality who cares about NIGERIANS |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 5:49pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
slivertongue:As bitter as it might taste in mouth of some Obidients, this is why somebody like Elrufai is needed to pair with Obi. With Elrufai on the ticket some of those propaganda will no longer stick. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by slivertongue: 7:36pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:Take it from me, Elrufia is of no political weight in kaduna talk more of the North. He has played his card and everyone knows his character. Atiku brought him and Ribadu to the attention of Obj. He tried to run Yaradua street but ran away, GEJ brought him back but when he couldn't get patronage he resorted to religious antagonism, labeling GEJ North, anti Islam you know the rest. Of the truth he won his first election through the support of the peoples of South Kaduna and Buhari, am sure you know how it ended between him and them. He didn't win 2019 &2023 but you know INEC behaved in some states. Elrufia used religion not only to win election but to be a king maker in kaduna state. He fought anyone with constructive ideas which differed from his so many played along knowing his penchant for blackmail and scotched earth politics. He is powerless without executive power, He cannot win election or hold office without riding on the back of a prominent person. I don't see him leaving APC because he is of no political weight in the North. His visits seeks the renegotiating for his place in APC. No serious party will welcome a divisive character like him into there fold. Kwankwaso tried it and he started and ended in Kano. Ganduje could have retired him but for the dollar issue and unnecessary battles with the red cap movement. If Obi and Elrufia runs on one ticket, mark my word that ticket will lose heavily in the South and the North. To my mind Elrufia is not a religious extremist, political hardliner or a die-hard of any ideology. He is a jobber who can adopt any antics to be patronized or to taste the political currents of the movement. Politics may be about permanent interest but it must draw lines on it's values. Obi is better without him, with him na crises. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 7:50pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 7:58pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 8:00pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Click on the username to go to the thread dubem3:
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 8:02pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 8:04pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
SSS detains El Rufai at Awkahttps://thenationonlineng.net/sss-detains-el-rufai-awka/amp/
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 8:25pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
slivertongue:Great submission! And being from the north, you are helping me have a better insight into how things actually stand in the north especially Elrufai’s strength. Though I still think he would rally more northern powerbrokers to the Obi ticket than Datti was able to do. But your last paragraph is very true because I’ve seen some Obidients swear to withdraw their support for Obi should he team up with Elrufai. And it would also affect Obi’s chances among Christian voters most especially northern Christians. Elrufai’s baggage is too much that the idea is not seeming like it’s going to be possible. If Kwankwaso is still interested in sucking Tinubu’s deek, then it’s best Obi sticks with Datti. Like some Obidients argued, he won the last election with Datti, so, Obi doesn’t really any of those supposed heavyweights. What he needs is to get northern powerbrokers to allow his victory to stand if he wins again. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 8:27pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
naptu2:This one bringing a 2018 article. But as recent as 2022, Wike called APC 4th degree cancer and would never have anything to do with the party. Where is he today? Elrufai has moved bro! Wake up |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Ofunaofu: 8:33pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Ngorbungor:They are already shitting in their pants, praying fervently, and hoping that such a collabo doesn't see the light of day because they know that it will be game over for their calamitous drug lord. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Ofunaofu: 8:34pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
naptu2:El rufai said despicable things against Tinubu but in 2023, he worked and supported Tinubu |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by LegendHero(m): 8:37pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Beremx:You guys and conspiracy theory. This remind me of the different lambs we heard during the last election about OBJ arranging a Russian lawyer to help Obi in court. How will you think El-Rufai of all people will deputize Peter Obi? Fear God nao. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 9:21pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 🤣 |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 9:24pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
LegendHero:What this thread reminds me of is the day that someone told me that Goodluck Jonathan's spokesman didn't know anything about Goodluck Jonathan and that he knew for a fact that Goodluck Jonathan would contest the 2023 election on the platform of the APC (something that Goodluck Jonathan's spokesman had denied). I thoroughly enjoyed that thread. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by LegendHero(m): 9:26pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
naptu2:😂 I remember that period too. They went about saying Jonathan is the anointed candidate. We even saw photo ops of him visiting APC chairman. I don’t know why people push propaganda that can be easily refuted. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 9:32pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Back to our countdown. 5 naptu2: |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by LegendHero(m): 9:32pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:Both you and the person you quoted are just wasting una time. When it is the turn of the North, an El-Rufai on the ballot will defeat any Southern candidate just as a Kwakwanso on the ballot would. You can’t use 2023 election to judge these Kwakwanso/ElRufai guys, you will miscalculate. Three strong muslims contested in 2023 and the sentiment in the air is that it is the turn of the South. Even at that, see the massive votes Atiku had in the North? Now what do you think would happen if the sentiment is that it is the North turn and only El-Rufai or Kwakwanso man the ticket of the party? Obi is a rookie. How can you contest against 3 Muslim candidate with a Ibo + church ridden Christian politics and still come third? It is a big shame. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by slivertongue: 10:04pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:Boss, Tinubu is the President of Nigeria, we must accord him that respect regardless of his character which ain't presidential. Datti did a great work oo but you may not value it because they are not in the villa today. That INEC declare two rookies of polling 6.1 million votes tells you that they got more than that but were shortchanged. The votes from Plateau, Abj, Benue, Nasarawa, Kaduna, Gombe, Adamawa, Borno, kogi, Niger, Kano didn't come easy. We had to battle the ruling elites and INEC, INEC did more damage than the ruling class as the people came out in there numbers. Of course Datti had his hurdles but he is well connected and has the family name to speak for him. Northern power brokers are mostly politicians who seem to use INEC and the security forces to force their way to power. The above mentioned areas still turned out votes despite the elite conspiracy against him. Northern Politicians of value are Atiku, SARS, Goje, Kwankwaso, Saraki, Wammako, these men 'gat the connect' to gather men across states but many of them didn't believe Obi could garner 10% of the votes thus the refusal of someone like Shagari to be his VP. some even questioned where obi would get campaign fundings, you know the rest. Obi is not the most popular Igbo man in the North, OUK and Rochas are. Rochas is a household name here, atleast in the urban North but no Igbo person or Southerner has brought a simple but coordinated campaign to North like Obi. Only MKO beats him. The funny thing is there are many Peter Obi's that campaigned for Peter Obi. Elrufia won't add value to the ticket, his antics and antagonism against even Muslim elites is well known. He rallied imams on the side of APC from 2015 to 2023 playing a religious card but the situations.of the North today makes it worthless to campaign on region and religion. Don't also forget that the North ain't political homogeneous. There is the Muslim, Christian, Native, Fulani &immigrant North, these shape politics in the North. Let me shock you, the North worked against Atiku thus his loss severally. The campaign of calumny against Obi was engineered from the South not from the North. The North is a conservative society yet liberal and ain't scared of any Southerner ruling Nigeria. Ask yourself wasn't it North that supported Shagari and Ekwueme. Didn't we know that Ekwueme was Igbo? It wasn't the North that worked against GEJ, it was his follow Southerners who lobbied the North to fight a man who gave them more advantage. Life was good under PDP but your fellow Southerners truncated it with their sinister ambition. Atiku can't win election until the North stands up for him and for Obi, he needs to do more home work south wards. Obi's problem ain't the North but the South may betray him to the North just like the North betrayed Atiku to the South. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 10:15pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
LegendHero:We are talking 2027 and you are talking about 2031. No run speed |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by Penguin2(op): 10:35pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
slivertongue:Deep deep insights and I appreciate it. Of the names you mentioned if Datti was to be taken off the Obi ticket, I’m most comfortable with Saraki. He’s a refined gentleman that shares a lot in common with Obi in terms of ideology and all. Another valid point you made is that a lot of the so called powerbrokers, especially from the north, didn’t think Obi stood a chance. They thought the results of the many pre-election polls were manufactured. Like you said, they didn’t even believe Obi would score 10% of the total votes cast. But the result shocked them and now Obi is now a political bride and they’ve seen he stands a huge chance. So, a lot of people who stood against him before merely because they doubted his chances would fall over themselves now to throw their support for him. And lastly, you are also right that the campaign of calumny Obi faced in the north was sponsored by Southern politicians. Specifically, it was sponsored by Tinubu and his men. They are the ones who always remind the north of how an Igbo man should never be president and a lot of other trash. Ultimately, what Obi achieved in 2023 is that he proved doubters wrong and even won the election but rigged out. If he can get the big boys to believe in him in the next election, no rigging will even help Tinubu. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by LegendHero(m): 11:27pm On Apr 08, 2024 |
Penguin2:2027 is already a done deal. No need talking about that except if Tinubu choose not to contest. |
| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 4:25am On Apr 09, 2024 |
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 4:27am On Apr 09, 2024 |
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 4:42am On Apr 09, 2024*. Modified: 5:22am On Apr 09, 2024 |
Some people know more about what Peter Obi and El-Rufai will do than Peter Obi, Bashir El-Rufai, Oseloka Obaze and Muyiwa Adekeye.
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| Re: Nearly 24hrs Later, Why Has Elrufai Not Refuted The Rumour Of Working With Obi? by naptu2: 5:04am On Apr 09, 2024 |
Peter Obi and El-Rufai at the Northern Elders Forum meeting with presidential aspirants in October 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzH7ev-4YE?si=LyJTWqJhQgpzbY6U |
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