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Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by FxMasterz: 6:21am On Apr 08 |
paxonel: Fixed. If they have no problem confessing Christ, then let them freely do it anyway they're invited to do it. 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Ken4Christ: 7:09am On Apr 08 |
I paxonel: How does one become a Christian? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Ken4Christ: 7:10am On Apr 08 |
vdestro: How does someone become a Christian? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Ken4Christ: 7:19am On Apr 08 |
paxonel: Believing alone doesn't make you a Christian. Besides, you must believe in your heart and not in your head. The template for conversion is contained in Romans 10:9-10. It's in two stages. Stage one - Believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead. Not everyone believes this. For instance, The Jehovah Witness do not believe that Jesus was raised from the dead bodily. Second stage - Confess that Jesus is Lord of your life. This is what finally initiates you into the body of Christ. Even our Lord Jesus said that it's your word that justifies or condemns you - Matthew 12:37. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by AbuTwins: 3:36pm On Apr 08 |
Goodlady: Na you i ask? Who is a Christian? Was John the Baptist a born again Christian? Were Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc born Again Christians? Was Jesus a born again Christian? No! No! No! |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Goodlady(f): 3:39pm On Apr 08 |
AbuTwins: A Christian is a modernization of Musa, Ibrahim, etc. Moses, Abraham etc are born again based on what Allah demanded during their time. They came before Jesus. The word Christianity came from era of Jesus Christ. It means to live a just life and as well serving Allah as directed by Prophet Issa (PBUH). The word born again is just a modern era of telling someone like you who's not a Christian to convert to Christianity or someone who was already a Christian and backslided to return. John the Baptist was born again too cos he lived during the time of Jesus and witnessed God's confirmation of Jesus that This is my beloved son. John 1:29-33. Matthew 3:13, Matthew 16:17. Now tell me who's a Christian from your own angle. I v answered all ya first questions. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by tollyboy5(m): 3:52pm On Apr 08 |
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Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Goodlady(f): 4:25pm On Apr 08 |
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Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by tollyboy5(m): 4:29pm On Apr 08 |
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Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by CCIA: 4:33pm On Apr 08 |
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Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 6:26pm On Apr 08 |
paxonel: Hear a clown unbeliever that knows more than the apostles that counted 3000 souls and discipled them. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 6:29pm On Apr 08 |
paxonel: He that is born of God does not commit sin, believest thou this? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 6:47pm On Apr 08 |
Ken4Christ:this your statement contradicts Romans 3:28 Romans Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. you didn't attach any scripture in support of this Romans 10 is very straight forward to understand. start reading from verse 1 you will understand what the whole chapter is explaining Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. The aim of this whole Epistle of Paul is that Israel should be saved. And for them to be saved they have to confess Christ. That is, to agree that Jesus is the Christ, simple. The opposite of the word confess there is to deny. To confirm this, read the stories of Jesus while he was yet alive before he was crucified. The Pharisees who were the leaders of the Jews(Israelites) actually denied Christ as their Messiah. Even till today the scripture did not mention any stage. It is just believe that's all. Whether you believe in the heart or mind or confess it out with your mouth that Jesus is the Christ, it is still amount to believe which all Christians today have done in their heart too that is their own cup of tea. What is important is that the vast majority of Christians all over the world today have believed confess, believe, accept, they are all the same synonyms, therefore there is nothing like second stage. The point is, Paul had used all these synonyms to say one thing, which is to believe that's all Jesus put is as one, not on stages by saying whoever believes in me should not perish but have everlasting life. one can only say the words that he believes. Meaning, if you don't believe in your heart you cannot confess or say it out . So everything still amount to believe |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 7:01pm On Apr 08 |
Ken4Christ:There are two possible ways to become a Christian. 1. By birth : as in new birth in Christ. 1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. A child that is born and brought up in Christian home is a Christian right from the point of his birth until he decides to change his religion when he becomes an adult. If he choses to continue in Christ and die a Christian then he has eternal life, simple 2. By conversion : that is, when someone that wasn't a Christian initially is preached to, and he believed. At that point he is a believer |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 7:27pm On Apr 08 |
Image123:certainly. It depend on what God sees as sin, not what we see as sin. The truth is, whosever is born of God is seen by God as Christ himself. Not by what he actually is. Because of this, he does not commit sin in God's eyes. That is, God has forgiven all his iniquities in advance because of Christ |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 7:30pm On Apr 08 |
Image123:You have started again abi? Can't you make your argument without using words like clown? You are very free to counter anything i say, but do it constructively and not with insult and i will see your point and agree with you I will not respond to you again if you repeat this |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Ken4Christ: 8:19pm On Apr 08 |
paxonel: You can't be a Christian just because you were raised in a Christian home. You must get to the age of accountability where you personally make it decision to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Ken4Christ: 8:23pm On Apr 08 |
paxonel: Just accept that you have learnt something new which is also very important. Believe in your heart and confessing with your mouth doesn't mean the same thing. But what you confess is definitely a function of what you believe. Out of the abundance of the heart, the month speaks. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by tollyboy5(m): 9:40pm On Apr 08 |
Goodlady:Honestly I don't wish to afford you. I don't like that statement. Women are not commodity that need to be purchased. I wanted to ignore completely but just felt I should let you know you can do better. I also sincerely don't wish to extend this convo. Thanks tho. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 3:53am On Apr 09 |
Goodlady: Backslided means that person already knows about giving their lives to Christ which is the point of the thread, so telling them to.do so, kind of feels pointless and ridiculous as we would say "dem no know before? If dem wan give their life to Christ before dem no for do am since even before today? Abeg, dem no serious" |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 3:55am On Apr 09 |
paxonel: . |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 3:57am On Apr 09 |
LordReed: |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 3:57am On Apr 09 |
FxMasterz: Dis one too na True! |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 3:58am On Apr 09 |
paxonel: 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Veecruz: 4:00am On Apr 09 |
LordReed: .oooh i don luagh tire for dis thread! |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 9:08pm On Apr 09 |
paxonel: Reason why i rightly called you a clown unbeliever, i am not just knowing you today, obviously. Nobody talked about or mentioned what God sees as sin, i guess that is His business, ba? The fact is that if you sin, you have to repent of your sin. Obviously, Ananias, Sapphira, Demas and other backsliders were not seen as Christ but as people who satan entered their hearts. Paul, Peter and other apostles evidently did not have this danjalous revelation that only you and your pastor received from we know who. Even Jesus was not briefed. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 9:11pm On Apr 09 |
paxonel: You don't like the word "clown", then stop behaving like one. You make satan and unbelievers laugh at the christian faith with your acrobatic displays. You were not constructive in your assertions. |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 10:21pm On Apr 09 |
Image123:point out one of my assertion that i wasn't constructive |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 10:24pm On Apr 09 |
Image123:I didn't say that when you sin you don't have to repent, did I? Where? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 3:33am On Apr 10 |
paxonel: Repentance was never a requirement to be a Christian. You said that, right? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by Image123(m): 3:39am On Apr 10 |
paxonel: You said "someone who is a Christian that is committing sin", same you said that you believe that a Christian does not commit sin. How's that constructive and not acrobatic? Same you said, "altar calls are never the right approach to win souls". How constructive is it in line with scriptures where sinners were clearly called to repent and counted? |
Re: There Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(m): 5:04am On Apr 10 |
Image123:Is this suppose to mean when a Christian sin he does not have to repent? In case you don't understand the meaning of the word requirement and how it applies To pass government in waec is not a requirement to be admiited in the university for studying Biochemistry. Does that mean that a student prospecting to study Biochemistry should not pass government in waec? The answer is no! When you have difficulties understanding simple logic the reasonable thing to do first is to ask questions, or you don't have business quoting me, talkless of using words like clown on top of what your brain is not developed enough to understand, otherwise you make a fool out of yourself. Now, don't quote me again except you have anything reasonable to say, or I will not respond |
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