Dsimmer:


Awolowo is an Oosa.

Awolowo was Human

Christistruth00:


Awolowo was Human

Yes. A deified Oosa. Intelligence and civilization.

Btw, the Oosa are also Yoruba ancestors displaying their talents in alignment with their Oosa cosmos talents.

AlexBells:

It doesn’t matter who created it, use appropriate channel to move for exist otherwise even today you could be shown the fastest way to hell

The Niger Delta people wanted their own Region and had even started their own Agitation for a separate Region ir Country before Ojukwu started his own

Azikiwe had promised before independence to carry out a referendum for the Northern Western and Eastern Region Minorities including Kwara but they only carried out the West one but failed to do the others

At Aburi Ojukwu refused for Eastern Region Minorities request for a separate Region to be even discussed and that led to them doing everything they could to sabotage Aburi because even though they owned half of the Eastern Region they were left out of the Aburi agreement

That was the main Stumbling block of the Aburi agreement

The Eastern Region Minorities rejected Aburi as being against their Own interests and worked against it.

Was that a lie?

Otherwise tell us exactly how Aburi was in the interests of the Eastern Region Minorities

rinzaugustine:
very true my brother and Nigeria in particular and black race in general are still suffering from that action because more than 50 years after they still cannot fix Nigeria due to their fear for igbos and igbos turning their backs on anything politics or government…drawing analogy from a kitchen Nigeria is like a kitchen that has the best ingredients and utensils but kept hiring cooks who cannot even boil water to run it over the years they have totally damaged that kitchen but to a competent igbo person anything about money (economy) is like a cake walk for him. If you see a 6 year old igbo boy left in the shop by the mother to go to market you can never cheat him. If you give him 1k and take 10 different items he will still give you the correct change. Only thing an igbo man has been asking is free and fair elections to be able to vote in leaders like Okpara, mbakwe, Sullivan chime, Obi, ngige etc that will make igboland look like Qatar or Johannesburg and leave the others to die in their hatefulness with the kind of leaders they deserve

My brother even Igbo Politicians are not allowing free and fair elections in our region the blame goes round. Abia PDP did not allow free and fair election for 24 year same thing in other states. See Hope Uzodimma of Imo state over his dead body to allow free and fair election. But there is hope we shouldnt give up.

Christistruth00:


The Niger Delta people wanted their own Region

At Aburi Ojukwu refused for their request for a separate Region to be even discussed and that led to them doing everything they could to sabotage Aburi because even though they owned half of the Eastern Region they were left out of the Aburi agreement

You are still running around the bush, talking idiotic stuff. Who are the Niger Delta people. Is it not same Niger Delta where Ijaw and Urhobo are almost wiping out themselves? Where in the first republic constitution was there a people or Region called Niger Delta region

festacman:
Why is it so difficult to accept that Awolowo wanted to secure economic advantage for his people. It might not have worked as he anticipated due to the survival instinct and innate mercantile capabilities of Igbo people. Yes, from hindsight, it looks heartless but from ethnic competition and rivalry points of view, the policy was logical as a war tool to gain advantage.

It is the same with Ikwere people seizing properties of Igbo in Port Harcourt as abandoned property to get even while properties of Igbo in Lagos and Northern Nigeria remained untouched. Today, Ikwere estate fortunes in Port Harcourt remain inferior to those of Igbo.

Mean things happen during wars. Crazy things happen in the history of every nation. Even the Pope had to apologize for certain things the Church did in the past.

The fact is that events of yesterday are supposed to guide us today dealings as we march into Tomorrow. Forward ever, backward never!

You are very stvpid for bringing Ikwerre into this with your false accusation possibly fed to you by your shameless and thieving parents.

I’m sure you are the first in your lineage to ever step foot in Portharcourt, but you come here to talk about non existent abandoned property taken by Ikwerre.

Go and continue doing your inferior or superior people and estate fortune with your fellow idiotic and shallow minded Ibos and leave Ikwerre people out of your madness.

Very smelly idi0t you are.

Whalis:

Let me educate you a little. I know your hatred for Ikwerre people as exemplified and shown towards Wike is beyond imagination.
Ikwerre land had been occupied by Igbos before and during the war. Read Elechi Amadi's Sunset in Biafra. The issue of Abandoned Property was Federal Government policy and Ikwerre people never contributed or benefitted from it. Rather it was Ikwerre people who lost their lands particularly to Ijaws as they had the reach during this period. The Igbos were going to Enugu to receive letter of allocation of land belonging to Ikwerre people. They would just come and show you a paper that your ancestral they covetted had been handed over to them.
They were in charge. They would go bank to the bank of eastern Nigeria to receive loan to develop the land. Some of these loans weren't paid before the war broke out. At the end of the war government set up an enquiry to investigate this. Those who were yet to pay back their loans government seized the property they were developing with it. This was how most properties were declared abandoned. Those who could show prove of loan repayment were given back their property. Ikwerres weren't in the driving seat of the state then so wouldn't have influenced this or benefitted from this in any way. The Ijaws were in charge then and benefitted more to the disadvantages of the Ikwerres. Stop hating the ikwerres because of this as they didn't benefit.

You just wasted your time writing to a senseless swine who already has his mind made up on the lies he wants to feed to his unborn generation.

They are just wilfully stupid, idiotic, bitter, pathetic and irredeemable.

DMerciful:
He committed suicide, everybody knows this

Deluded people created that story.

paramakina202:


My brother even Igbo Politicians are not allowing free and fair elections in our region the blame goes round. Abia PDP did not allow free and fair election for 24 year same thing in other states. See Hope Uzodimma of Imo state over his dead body to allow free and fair election. But there is hope we shouldnt give up.

Yes they have been rigging local government elections since 1999 but the most important one which is the governorship and house of assembly is outside their power as federal INEC conducts those ones. If it was free and fair a nuisance like uzodimma would not even win local government elections

festacman:


I don't hate Ikwerres and I have no reason to do so. I merely stated my opinion on Nigeria/Biafra civil war related issue and you have stated yours countering it, which is Ok. However, I still stand by my opinion.

You were told lies by your forebears who hated Ikwerre particularly because of the Ikwerre people general stand that they have no historical ties with the Igbos. The Igbos see this as hatred and for that reason resent the ikwerres. Come to Ph and make an inquiry about what you alleged. Ikwerres had no hand in abandoned property. It was a federal government policy even headed by David Mark. Only those in the upper echelon of government benefitted from that. Disabuse your mind of your primordial hatred for the Ikwerres because of this.

God rest the soul of Awolowo

DMerciful:
He committed suicide, everybody knows this

Millions of dead nyanmiri that died due to the civil war cannot make this true no matter how much you wish it.

AlexBells:
It is not very accurate to blame Awolowo, Ojukwu knew from Aburi that the West had been defeated. However Awolowo did take some mischievous steps afterwords like advising the Eastern blockade and taking Igbo money in the bank but we rose from the Ashes and became the best

Was it not mischievious for Ojukwu to break nigerian banks and loot the funds deposited in them?

You think war is sharing of akara? You guys took a gamble and got your fingers burnt deal with it

Awolowo is not to blame for your misfortunes. Nobody send una go fight war wey una no fit win

AlexBells:
It is not very accurate to blame Awolowo, Ojukwu knew from Aburi that the West had been defeated. However Awolowo did take some mischievous steps afterwords like advising the Eastern blockade and taking Igbo money in the bank but we rose from the Ashes and became the best

And Ojukwu stole money from Midwest banks after the invasion of the Midwest, or should we talk about the rapes by Biafrian soldiers (even young minority boys were sodomized by Biafrian soldiers), and murder of minorities by Biafria Soldiers in the eastern region.

Dsimmer:


Yes. A deified Oosa. Intelligence and civilization.

Btw, the Oosa are also Yoruba ancestors displaying their talents in alignment with their Oosa cosmos talents.

Awolowo was a great Man
But he was Human
There is no need to deify him
Apart from just thanking God Almighty who blessed him with foresight and wisdom

valentineuwakwe:
Old wounds should be buried!

The lessons of History must be fully learnt and digested
They are very important

rinzaugustine:
Yes they have been rigging local government elections since 1999 but the most important one which is the governorship and house of assembly is outside their power as federal INEC conducts those ones. If it was free and fair a nuisance like uzodimma would not even win local government elections

Yes even at that INEC can not successfully rig election without active support of Local politicians. They rig the election in favour of another Igbo.

Goodvibes007:

And Ojukwu stole money from Midwest banks after the invasion of the Midwest, or should we talk about the rapes by Biafrian soldiers (even young minority boys were sodomized by Biafrian soldiers), and murder of minorities by Biafria Soldiers in the eastern region.

Such is possible in way, I’m sure even American soldiers are guilty of such. We seeing it in Ukraine, warfromt can be so tense and deprived that anything can occur

Christistruth00:


The Niger Delta people wanted their own Region and had even started their own Agitation for a separate Region ir Country before Ojukwu started his own

Azikiwe had promised before independence to carry out a referendum for the Northern Western and Eastern Region Minorities including Kwara but they only carried out the West one but failed to do the others

At Aburi Ojukwu refused for Eastern Region Minorities request for a separate Region to be even discussed and that led to them doing everything they could to sabotage Aburi because even though they owned half of the Eastern Region they were left out of the Aburi agreement

That was the main Stumbling block of the Aburi agreement

The Eastern Region Minorities rejected Aburi as being against their Own interests and worked against it.

Was that a lie?

Otherwise tell us exactly how Aburi was in the interests of the Eastern Region Minorities

Stop flying, was Eastern region minorities subject of discussion in Aburi. Provide documents to back up your claim.

Nigerians, when are we going to get over this issue, every time we keep digging up invents if sixty years ago.

The truth is that we need to move on because no amount of repetition will change an already formed opinion.

The yorubas believe that Awolowo did not betray igbos and not even Ojukwu waking up from dead to debunk it will change their stand while the igbos believe that Awolowo betrayed them and even if Awo himself should wake from the dead to narrate his own part of the story, igbos will not believe him.

Seeing that the above is true, why are we disturbing ourselves by always digging up these stories to debate ? Are we not tired of all these ?

Yorubas are too intelligent

Objectivist04:
Nigerians, when are we going to get over this issue, every time we keep digging up invents if sixty years ago.

The truth is that we need to move on because no amount of repetition will change an already formed opinion.

The yorubas believe that Awolowo did not betray igbos and not even Ojukwu waking up from dead to debunk it will change their stand while the igbos believe that Awolowo betrayed them and even if Awo himself should wake from the dead to narrate his own part of the story, igbos will not believe him.

Seeing that the above is true, why are we disturbing ourselves by always digging up these stories to debate ? Are we not tired of all these ?

Well said on this needlessness of raking up of old issues.

Just to tag on to your post though, Ojukwu is on record as saying he understands why Awolowo did not pull Ala Yoruba out of Nigeria as he would have done the same in his shoes and has no bitterness towards him as a result. There is a video on the internet to that effect.

Even if he betrays igbos, what exactly will igbos do?

aswani:


Well said on this needlessness of raking up of old issues.

Just to tag on to your post though, Ojukwu is on record as saying he understands why Awolowo did not pull Ala Yoruba out of Nigeria as he would have done the same in his shoes and has no bitterness towards him as a result. There is a video on the internet to that effect.

Well, I am not here to debate that, my concern is that for the past 10 years that I joined this forum, there is no single year or every six months that we won't see this topic on nairaland, likewise 1966 coup but after all said and done, we will only end up insulting ourselves as nobody will be convinced from either side, so why can't we move on

Tomorrow FFK will say his own and it will grace the front page and we will start all over again.
For how long shall we continue to run within a circle. ? .
In this country pinions have already been shaped and trying to convince anyone is like pouring water on a stone - it doesn't penetrate .

DMerciful:
National burial is not based on attendance but whether the state conducted the burial.

A person that committed suicide cannot be given national burial obviously

Chief Obafemi Awolowo committed suicide only in your flat head and hate filled mind. Sane people with functioning brain are already aware with fact , that he dead a peaceful death in his home.

That is why you have got no proof to justify your claim except propaganda which your poor parents ( the few remnants and unfortunate survivals of ojukwu's needly war) passed across to you.

If people like you can be confused and convinced by kanu to believe that buhari was cloned, nothing with stop you from believing that chief Awolowo actually took poison.

Even ojukwu that led over 3 million igbos to die in a senseless war didn't take poison

If I may ask you, what did they tell you made him took poison?

kingsways:
Imagine

How can any right thinking human being open his trap and say everything is acceptable in war?

So Israel can go ahead and kill all Palestinians including civilians and kids since everything is acceptable in war according this demented fellow

Are ibos not the ones supporting exactly this
to befall Palestinians

bennybuhari:
Chief Olabode George, former deputy national chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), has said those accusing late Obafemi Awolowo of working against the interest of the south-east during the Nigerian civil war are saying rubbish.

Speaking in an exclusive interview with worldviewafrica, George said rather than castigate the late premier of the western region, Igbos should be grateful to him and other leaders who made sacrifices to ensure that Nigeria still remains a united nation today.

George who said everything is acceptable in war, added that Awolowo as Finance Minister and deputy to the then Head of State, Yakubu Gowon made a proposal that the country’s currency be changed. He said the proposal was adopted and this contributed to the swift end of the civil war which had killed millions of Nigerians .

“That Awolowo betrayed Igbos and made them lose the war? That is absolute rubbish. Baba (Awolowo) was deputy to Gowon and not only that, he was controlling the economy. He then decided to change the Nigerian currency at that time. Everything is acceptable in war”.
"What happened during the war was that the Biafra agitators had their Central Bank in the south-east and they have kept currencies there. Awolowo believed that if the currency is changed, all the monies they have stacked up will be worthless”.

George, a former military governor of Ondo state said Awolowo’s policy was that Nigeria’s continued unity must be discussed and that if the south-east are allowed to secede, the people of the south-west will also follow them".

“Awolowo’s position was that we must sit down and talk. That was the policy he adopted during the war. He did not do anything to negate the chances of our brothers in the South-East. In fact, he said if the Igbos are allowed to exit the Nigeria union, the Yorubas will follow suit. That was his belief”.

“When they declared Biafra, they took control of all the South-South, especially Rivers and other places where we get crude oil. Awolowo then advised Gowon that if you want to have a full control of the economy, change the currency. He made the proposal to the Council and it was adopted”.

“When that was done, all the currencies in the Central Bank in the south-east became useless and that also contributed to the end of the war. So, why should some people blame him for that?”

“We should thank God for the lives of those leaders at that time, especially Papa Awolowo. It is an example of the love he had for Nigeria. He doesn’t want Nigeria to break-up and he doesn’t want our brothers in the south-east to leave. He believed so much in Nigeria’s unity”.
https://worldviewafrica.com/awolowo-never-betrayed-igbos-during-nigerias-civil-war-bode-george/

I blame the military top echelon that after the rebels surrendered and the war ended, they did not line up all the rebel commanders and generals, tie them to a barrel and execute them. After that, bill Biafra the entire cost of war.

They needed bullets in their forehead, not rescue and recovery. The war was an act of rebellion and mutiny, it had to be treated with strict military protocol.

Tranquill:


You are very stvpid for bringing Ikwerre into this with your false accusation possibly fed to you by your shameless and thieving parents.

I’m sure you are the first in your lineage to ever step foot in Portharcourt, but you come here to talk about non existent abandoned property taken by Ikwerre.

Go and continue doing your inferior or superior people and estate fortune with your fellow idiotic and shallow minded Ibos and leave Ikwerre people out of your madness.

Very smelly idi0t you are.

You sounded a bit mentally deranged.

Whalis:

You were told lies by your forebears who hated Ikwerre particularly because of the Ikwerre people general stand that they have no historical ties with the Igbos. The Igbos see this as hatred and for that reason resent the ikwerres. Come to Ph and make an inquiry about what you alleged. Ikwerres had no hand in abandoned property. It was a federal government policy even headed by David Mark. Only those in the upper echelon of government benefitted from that. Disabuse your mind of your primordial hatred for the Ikwerres because of this.

Ok

Whalis:

You were told lies by your forebears who hated Ikwerre particularly because of the Ikwerre people general stand that they have no historical ties with the Igbos.

Historical ties? I don't know of any historical tie between the Abakiliki man, the Nsukka man, the Ngwa man, the Onitsha man, the Abrirba man, the Nkanu man. Yet you call all of them Igbos? Why?

This has got nothing to do with historical tie. All these people speak various dialects of a parent language called Igbo, they practice a similar culture, and that is why they are called Igbo. There is no difference between them and any Ikwerre, except for denial. The Ikwerre will say "Omeneli", which is the seat of traditions and custom, while someone from Imo will say 'Omenala', Enugu will say 'Omenani' same as Ebonyi, while us in Anambra will say 'Omenana'. No matter how you say it, everyone will still know what you are talking about

paramakina202:


Stop flying, was Eastern region minorities subject of discussion in Aburi. Provide documents to back up your claim.

The Eastern Region Minorities Lands were involved in the Aburi discussion
They owned half of the Eastern Region Land and it was consistently pointed out to Ojukwu but he seemed not to understand the implications

General Goeon's deputy Commodore wey was from Calabar and raised the issue

Ojukwu refused to discuss it though it was ponted out to him that the Eastern Region Minorities were important stakeholders in the matters discussed st Aburi

festacman:


You sounded a bit mentally deranged.

U mistake me for your imbecil.3 father.