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The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 12:08pm On Apr 14
THE KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THE IRANIAN RETALIATION ON ISRAEL:

This is a deterrence win for Iran.

Had Israel been taken by surprise and not had the days long preparation to mitigate the impact of an Iranian attack this large, the damage would have been huge.

There is no way Israel could have intercepted hundreds of Iranian missiles without a week of its allies putting defenses in place and Iran intentionally taking its time.

A real war would NOT be telegraphed in advance so Israel can prepare with a symphony of air defenses from its allies.

Biden understands the risks posed by further escalation, especially to US forces, which is why he told Netanyahu he will not back an Israeli counterstrike.

The equation in the region has changed and Iran did it masterfully and responsibly without igniting the big war.

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 12:09pm On Apr 14
Also, you can’t win a war where you have to spend $5 billion a day on missile defense.

Also, this is assuming the batteries can stay loaded the entire time. If you can’t produce enough missiles, Israel will be leveled.

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 12:12pm On Apr 14
Watch the videos https://twitter.com/ThorntonWa47373/status/1779459964060246515?t=Nuhi_jxOv9iZzmh5sbmvNg&s=19


WHAT HAPPENED ?

For some time, Israeli air defences successfully dealt with missiles, by morning more footage began to appear of Iranian missiles breaking through Israeli air defences and delivering powerful blows to military infrastructure.

#IsraelIranWar

Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by ruggedtimi(m): 12:14pm On Apr 14
Iron dome is always active.
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 12:21pm On Apr 14
On Iran’s strike:

At Stanford, I attended a masterclass on military strategy led by a person with decades of experience, including serving at the highest levels in the military and government.

One lesson he thought that I always remember was this:

He asked us:

“Say the US decided to attack Iraq with a new stealth jet it hadn’t used before that evaded all radars? The attack was a success. Was it strategic?”

Many in the class raised their hands to say “yes, it achieved its goal”. But the professor said: “It may not have been”.

Why?

“Because now your adversaries know your capabilities and it’s a matter of time before they find ways around them. If this attack could be done with conventional weapons, it’s better to keep your top weapons until you need them. Using them creates a disadvantage.”

My analysis is that the scale of Iran’s attack, the diversity of locations it targeted, and weapons it used, forced Israel to uncover the majority of anti-missile technologies the US and it have across the region.

The Iranians did not use any weapons Israel didn’t know it had, it just used a lot of them. But the Iranians likely now have almost a full map of what Israel’s missile defence system looks like, as well as where in Jordan and the Gulf the US has installations. It also knows how long it takes to prepare them, how Israeli society responds…etc

This is a huge strategic cost to Israel, while Arab regimes now are being blasted by their peoples, particularly the Jordanian monarchy, for not doing anything to protect Gazans but then going all out to protect Israel.

Crucially, Iran can now reverse engineer all the intel gathered from this attack to make a much more deadly one credible. While the US and Israel will have to re-design away from their current model which has been compromised. Its success in stopping this choreographed attack is thus still very costly.

Moreover, with the threat of a regional war that neither the US nor the Arab regimes want feeling nearer, it’s likely their pressure on Israel to back down will increase, making a ceasefire more feasible.

Anyone assuming this is just theatrics is missing the context of how militaries assess strategy versus tactics. Theatre is an important factor, but gathering intelligence of the “enemy’s” posture is more valuable, especially if one believes they’re in a long war of attrition.

Netanyahu and the Israel government prefer a quick hot and urgent war where they can pull in America. The Iranians prefer a longer war of attrition that bleeds Israel of its deterrence capabilities and makes it an ally for Arabs and the US that’s too costly to have.

Lastly, if you are a person who hates war, if you want peace, the best and only way to get there in the region is to support the Palestinian struggle for freedom, justice and dignity.

There is no sustainable peace possible as long as Palestinians live under an oppressive system of apartheid.

https://twitter.com/fadiquran/status/1779426300760850642?t=a8ABBjFWWO2FLi1C8Wuy0A&s=19

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Period007(m): 12:35pm On Apr 14
Waste of time and resources

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 12:39pm On Apr 14
BREAKING:

🇮🇷 Iran released footage of missile launches towards Israel

Estimated military cost of last night's operations based on the figures published in the media:

110 ballistic missiles: 30-50 million dollars

45 cruise missiles: 4-7 million dollars

170 Shahed-136: 4-5 million dollars

Total: 62-38 million dollars

The collective West spent 1.1 billion dollars defending Israel

@Megatron_ron
rottennaija:
Also, you can’t win a war where you have to spend $5 billion a day on missile defense.

Also, this is assuming the batteries can stay loaded the entire time. If you can’t produce enough missiles, Israel will be leveled.

Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by muyico(m): 12:43pm On Apr 14
Iran fear US!! go and ask dem during iraq and iran. American do dem strong tinz
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Watcharena: 12:51pm On Apr 14
muyico:
Iran fear US!! go and ask dem during iraq and iran. American do dem strong tinz
yes by shooting down a civilian airline

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by backtalkG(m): 12:54pm On Apr 14
stupid post from a head slammer

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by muyico(m): 12:59pm On Apr 14
Watcharena:
yes by shooting down a civilian airline
no war without bloodshed. Civilian pay d heavy price
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Watcharena: 1:00pm On Apr 14
muyico:
no war without bloodshed. Civilian pay d heavy price
that's not war that's cowardice if you have to shoot civilian airline when military aircrafts are still in the air

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by khalling2008: 1:04pm On Apr 14
Ukraine's president can confirm that the Iran drone na horror drone because Russia has used the drone in Ukraine before. So stop underrating Iran's horror drone.

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by muyico(m): 1:05pm On Apr 14
Watcharena:
that's not war that's cowardice if you have to shoot civilian airline when military aircrafts are still in the air
civillian killed is to pinned d hrt of dose military!! American killed any terrorist soldiers apart of civillian
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Watcharena: 1:17pm On Apr 14
muyico:
civillian killed is to pinned d hrt of dose military!! American killed any terrorist soldiers apart of civillian
so why don't they attack military target instead of civilian aircraft
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Hamzaay(m): 1:30pm On Apr 14
Jesus was a head slammer grin grin Matthew 26:39
backtalkG:
stupid post from a head slammer

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by 0m0luabi: 1:41pm On Apr 14
khalling2008:
Ukraine's president can confirm that the Iran drone na horror drone because Russia has used the drone in Ukraine before. So stop underrating Iran's horror drone.
grin grin grin grin
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by id4sho(m): 1:45pm On Apr 14
rottennaija:
On Iran’s strike:

At Stanford, I attended a masterclass on military strategy led by a person with decades of experience, including serving at the highest levels in the military and government.

One lesson he thought that I always remember was this:

He asked us:

“Say the US decided to attack Iraq with a new stealth jet it hadn’t used before that evaded all radars? The attack was a success. Was it strategic?”

Many in the class raised their hands to say “yes, it achieved its goal”. But the professor said: “It may not have been”.

Why?

“Because now your adversaries know your capabilities and it’s a matter of time before they find ways around them. If this attack could be done with conventional weapons, it’s better to keep your top weapons until you need them. Using them creates a disadvantage.”

My analysis is that the scale of Iran’s attack, the diversity of locations it targeted, and weapons it used, forced Israel to uncover the majority of anti-missile technologies the US and it have across the region.

The Iranians did not use any weapons Israel didn’t know it had, it just used a lot of them. But the Iranians likely now have almost a full map of what Israel’s missile defence system looks like, as well as where in Jordan and the Gulf the US has installations. It also knows how long it takes to prepare them, how Israeli society responds…etc

This is a huge strategic cost to Israel, while Arab regimes now are being blasted by their peoples, particularly the Jordanian monarchy, for not doing anything to protect Gazans but then going all out to protect Israel.

Crucially, Iran can now reverse engineer all the intel gathered from this attack to make a much more deadly one credible. While the US and Israel will have to re-design away from their current model which has been compromised. Its success in stopping this choreographed attack is thus still very costly.

Moreover, with the threat of a regional war that neither the US nor the Arab regimes want feeling nearer, it’s likely their pressure on Israel to back down will increase, making a ceasefire more feasible.

Anyone assuming this is just theatrics is missing the context of how militaries assess strategy versus tactics. Theatre is an important factor, but gathering intelligence of the “enemy’s” posture is more valuable, especially if one believes they’re in a long war of attrition.

Netanyahu and the Israel government prefer a quick hot and urgent war where they can pull in America. The Iranians prefer a longer war of attrition that bleeds Israel of its deterrence capabilities and makes it an ally for Arabs and the US that’s too costly to have.

Lastly, if you are a person who hates war, if you want peace, the best and only way to get there in the region is to support the Palestinian struggle for freedom, justice and dignity.

There is no sustainable peace possible as long as Palestinians live under an oppressive system of apartheid.

https://twitter.com/fadiquran/status/1779426300760850642?t=a8ABBjFWWO2FLi1C8Wuy0A&s=19
I disagree with this, hope IRAN got some good air defense system too

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by backtalkG(m): 2:08pm On Apr 14
Hamzaay:
Jesus was a head slammer grin grin Matthew 26:39
are you a head slammer too
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by NwaliE01: 2:15pm On Apr 14
rottennaija:
Also, you can’t win a war where you have to spend $5 billion a day on missile defense.

Also, this is assuming the batteries can stay loaded the entire time. If you can’t produce enough missiles, Israel will be leveled.

Where did you get this humongous figure from?
I think you need to google how many anti air missles are in one battery?
Abeg, make we beg baba in Aso Rock to buy air defence for us.
I no trust our neighbours again.
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by khalling2008: 2:24pm On Apr 14
Don’t believe the Zionists for one bit when they say minimal damage was done to their bases (Negev and Mount Hermon). Remember when Ein Al Assad was hit by Iranian missiles and the US claimed nothing happend “all is well”? It was only after a week when they allowed reporters inside that we got to see the damage impacts.

Lying is in their blood, they are lying bastards.

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by madridguy(m): 2:33pm On Apr 14
They lie for a living.

khalling2008:
Don’t believe the Zionists for one bit when they say minimal damage was done to their bases (Negev and Mount Hermon). Remember when Ein Al Assad was hit by Iranian missiles and the US claimed nothing happend “all is well”? It was only after a week when they allowed reporters inside that we got to see the damage impacts.

Lying is in their blood, they are lying bastards.
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 2:37pm On Apr 14
NwaliE01:


Where did you get this humongous figure from?
I think you need to google how many anti air missles are in one battery?
Abeg, make we beg baba in Aso Rock to buy air defence for us.
I no trust our neighbours again.

Light you no get, na AD you dey look for?
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 2:39pm On Apr 14
id4sho:

I disagree with this, hope IRAN got some good air defense system too

It's still significantly bigger than Israel by more than 100%. So they can cover everywhere. So Israel can high some low value target and leave the rest to main stream media propaganda
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by SarkinYarki: 2:39pm On Apr 14
Almost 400 projectiles fired and only 7 made it through according to Iran and according to Israel only some Hezbollah rockets made it through.

This was clearly an arranged face Saving strike if it was the real deal Israel and its allies will hit all those launch sites before they can even be armed and used ,It's clear Electromagnetic Pulse weapons were used against all those drones and all the missiles and that was why 99 percent of them fell from the sky
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by AcadaWriter: 5:11pm On Apr 14
stupid post from a head slammer
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Hamzaay(m): 5:20pm On Apr 14
Yes me and ur jesus are head slammers grin
backtalkG:
are you a head slammer too
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 7:34pm On Apr 14
NwaliE01:


Where did you get this humongous figure from?
I think you need to google how many anti air missles are in one battery?
Abeg, make we beg baba in Aso Rock to buy air defence for us.
I no trust our neighbours again.

Israel spent $1.3b. US, UK, France spent how? We don't know. This was for an attack of 5 hours.

If Iran sustain the attack for 24 hours, that's how they will spend $5b

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Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Period007(m): 7:41pm On Apr 14
rottennaija:


Israel spent $1.3b. US, UK, France spent how? We don't know. This was for an attack of 5 hours.

If Iran sustain the attack for 24 hours, that's how they will spend $5b

Source?

Islamic media......

Without lies, Islam will die a natural death
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by NwaliE01: 7:43pm On Apr 14
rottennaija:


Israel spent $1.3b. US, UK, France spent how? We don't know. This was for an attack of 5 hours.

If Iran sustain the attack for 24 hours, that's how they will spend $5b

What do you think?
Is that amount decent for a defence system?

I mean when we weigh the potential damages vs the cost.

I understand that Air defense system can be quite expensive, that's why many Countries doesn't have it.
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by Biodun556(m): 7:53pm On Apr 14
rottennaija:
THE KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THE IRANIAN RETALIATION ON ISRAEL:

This is a deterrence win for Iran.

Had Israel been taken by surprise and not had the days long preparation to mitigate the impact of an Iranian attack this large, the damage would have been huge.

There is no way Israel could have intercepted hundreds of Iranian missiles without a week of its allies putting defenses in place and Iran intentionally taking its time.

A real war would NOT be telegraphed in advance so Israel can prepare with a symphony of air defenses from its allies.

Biden understands the risks posed by further escalation, especially to US forces, which is why he told Netanyahu he will not back an Israeli counterstrike.

The equation in the region has changed and Iran did it masterfully and responsibly without igniting the big war.

Exactly
Re: The Key Takeaway From The Iranian Retaliation On Israel: This Is A Deterrence by rottennaija(m): 9:52pm On Apr 14
NwaliE01:


What do you think?
Is that amount decent for a defence system?

I mean when we weigh the potential damages vs the cost.

I understand that Air defense system can be quite expensive, that's why many Countries doesn't have it.

It's unsustainable. Eventually, they will run out of missiles. And you know, the Shaheed drones cos very little. Same with the rockets lunch by Iraq resistance, Hezbollah, Hamas. Those are not design to cause a lot of damage but to deplete AD resources, thereby draining Israel financially.

You cannot win a war that way. That's why the west and Israel doesn't like attrition war. In comparison to the West, weapons manufactured by China, Russia and Iran is at a fraction of the cost. They can sustain it for years.

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