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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 10:31am On Apr 19
SmartyPants:


Who is you guys and who do we not get along with? Lol. Why revert back to Luagard? What does that have to do with this subject good sir? You made a point, when responding to someone who said Azikiwe was culpable for creating a Constitution that doesn't allow secession, and your point was that secession should not be limited by the Constitution since we created the same Constitution based on an agreement.

Now, I'm telling you that such an agreement can also be made now, provided that those who want to leave bring forth their case meaningfully. And that is by presenting a bill for debate in the legislative houses.

It is laughable that you are not willing to do the bare minimum of compelling your elected officials to initiate the conversation. Instead you are now throwing it back to the other side to start the conversation for you. Are you even serious or you just enjoy the idea of complaining?

Because what you are now saying with one mouth is that I want to leave your house but I want you to be the one to ask me to leave. No sir, you are definitely not sincere in your quest for secession. You merely love the fact that you have something to complain about.
Gidgiddy dropped his Biafra flag for Obi one Nigeria president .

Don't be decieved by their Biafra blackmail.

FG should not even intervene again as long as they keep their madness to their SE.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 10:33am On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


Unlike your Nigeria that was created by the guns and bullets of the white man, we want Biafra created by democratic referendum, the proper way a country should be created. Not answering "Nigerian", a colonial slave name a white woman created in London

Even in your core ibo hinterland , a Biafra referendum will fail woefully talk more of in the SS which you are claiming as your land.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by gidgiddy: 10:36am On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:


Even in your core ibo hinterland , a Biafra referendum will fail woefully talk more of in the SS which you are claiming as your land.






All the more reason you guys should support us get referendum rather than this holding to this 'one Nigeria' that has achieved nothing since 1970 to this day
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by zeuss: 10:37am On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:


The pogroms started in your blighted Biafra followings Ojukwu's decree that all non Ibos leave Biafra. Following that decree your cannibal war ancestors began targeting and killing northerners in Ibo land.

You guys were never victims but the aggressors and villains


Gowon's biggest mistake was not ending the war after liberating the Midwest and Niger Delta from your land grabbing bastard war generation.

We also know that during the occupation of both the Niger Delta and Midwest, your orc army went about genociding the minorities in their own land using the fog of war as cover.

I say never again to your useless Biafra expansionism.

You will get your dot nation whether you want it or not.
you reap what was sown on your behalf..... evil things
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by nedu666: 10:38am On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:


The pogroms started in your blighted Biafra followings Ojukwu's decree that all non Ibos leave Biafra. Following that decree your cannibal war ancestors began targeting and killing northerners in Ibo land.

You guys were never victims but the aggressors and villains


Gowon's biggest mistake was not ending the war after liberating the Midwest and Niger Delta from your land grabbing bastard war generation.

We also know that during the occupation of both the Niger Delta and Midwest, your orc army went about genociding the minorities in their own land using the fog of war as cover.

I say never again to your useless Biafra expansionism.

You will get your dot nation whether you want it or not.

You are no longer shouting from river to sea. Na bibi fit Muslim.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by gidgiddy: 10:42am On Apr 19
SmartyPants:


Who is you guys and who do we not get along with? Lol. Why revert back to Luagard? What does that have to do with this subject good sir? You made a point, when responding to someone who said Azikiwe was culpable for creating a Constitution that doesn't allow secession, and your point was that secession should not be limited by the Constitution since we created the same Constitution based on an agreement.

Now, I'm telling you that such an agreement can also be made now, provided that those who want to leave bring forth their case meaningfully. And that is by presenting a bill for debate in the legislative houses.

It is laughable that you are not willing to do the bare minimum of compelling your elected officials to initiate the conversation. Instead you are now throwing it back to the other side to start the conversation for you. Are you even serious or you just enjoy the idea of complaining?

Because what you are now saying with one mouth is that I want to leave your house but I want you to be the one to ask me to leave. No sir, you are definitely not sincere in your quest for secession. You merely love the fact that you have something to complain about.

You still don't get it? You are asking for someone to go through the due process of divorce when there was never a marriage

I never agreed to be with you, the white man forced us together. The white man has gone back home, I want to go my way, you say I should go and do divorce? Why? You cannot legitimacy from an illegal colonial creation of the white man
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Christistruth00: 10:49am On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


Zik was not there when Lugard created Nigeria in 1914, he does not have to be there whenever we decide Nigeria should end


Gidgiddy

Nigeria being declared a Perpetual indissoluble Federation in 1963 was Azikiwe’s Idea and it superseded
Whatever did or didn’t happen in 1914

There were already 3 Autonomous Regions at the time at there was no need need for it
the others didn’t know that Azikiwe’s real target was a unitary Government
What Azikiwe was interested in was not really a Federation but that Nigeria would be perpetually indissoluble

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by SmartyPants(m): 10:53am On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


You still don't get it? You are asking for someone to go through the due process of divorce when there was never a marriage

I never agreed to be with you, the white man forced us together. The white man has gone back home, I want to go my way, you say I should go and do divorce? Why? You cannot legitimacy from an illegal colonial creation of the white man

What do you mean we never agreed to be together? Of course, we did. The Independence Constitution that created Nigeria in 1960 was the product of a Nigerian agreement that cut across the divide of North, South, East, and West. No one was forced at all. And that was what the other guy was trying to point out to you. Nnamdi Azikiwe, who was the Igbo nationalist leader, was instrumental in ensuring that this agreement would not entertain the possibility of secession. You as an individual may not have been there to agree, but those you had as leaders did so. And the only way out today is equally through those you have as leaders today.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by gidgiddy: 10:55am On Apr 19
Christistruth00:



Gidgiddy

Nigeria been declared a Perpetual Federation in 1963 was Azikiwe’s Idea and it superseded
Whatever did or didn’t happen in 1914

Yes, the thoughts and hopes of the unity beggars and their long failed "one Nigeria"

However, self determination will always be there, and one day, we Igbos will exit this monumentally failed British colonial contraption called Nigeria
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Christistruth00: 11:01am On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


Yes, the thoughts and hopes of the unity beggars and their long failed "one Nigeria"

However, self determination will always be there, and one day, we Igbos will exit this monumentally failed British colonial contraption called Nigeria


The Old Eastern Region you are begging for Unity from and that Ojukwu tried to use Biafra to hijack was
a pure Creation of the British Colonial Government for completely Administrative purposes

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by leokid866: 11:20am On Apr 19
gidgiddy:
The only lesson to be learnt from the civil war is that the altar on which it was fought, 'one Nigeria', turned out to be a total fiasco today

The unity of Nigeria has been a disaster, we should have gone our seperate ways a long time ago rather than fighting war to be together, just to achieve nothing
tell that to ojukwu who went and dragged Adaka Boro to Lagos in the name of One Nigeria, then went on to declare Biafra because the north kicked him put the center

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Christistruth00: 11:47am On Apr 19
leokid866:
tell that to ojukwu who went and dragged Adaka Boro to Lagos in the name of One Nigeria, then went on to declare Biafra because the north kicked him put the center



Ojukwu as Eastern Region Gov under Gen Ironsi arrested Adaka Boro for Secession
Boro was sentenced to death by hanging under Gen Ironsi’s regime

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by seanfer(m): 12:48pm On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


Zik was not there when Lugard created Nigeria in 1914, he does not have to be there whenever we decide Nigeria should end

Was he not the first President?
Did he go against putting the secession clause in our constitution or not?

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 1:14pm On Apr 19
Reading Nigeria history is useless as you cant connect the dot to the future.

The fact that ibos are far away from federal governance for more than 60yrs and yet Nigeria problems since 1960 still remains unresolved shows neither justification nor condemnation for the coup.

To me it shows Nigeria has always been deceived by their leaders and one of the biggest deception that still sells today is that Igbos in governance is a problem.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Forkthiefnubu: 1:15pm On Apr 19
Bs done by a paid hack
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 1:48pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:
Reading Nigeria history is useless as you cant connect the dot to the future.

The fact that ibos are far away from federal governance for more than 60yrs and yet Nigeria problems since 1960 still remains unresolved shows neither justification nor condemnation for the coup.

To me it shows Nigeria has always been deceived by their leaders and one of the biggest deception that still sells today is that Igbos in governance is a problem.

It only exposes the extent of the rot they planted early in our nation's history .


Truly , the evil that men like Zik , Ironsi , Ojukwu and their co Marxist travellers did to our nation can never be totally expunged.

The best thing is to give you your Biafra with your five Ibo states

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 1:52pm On Apr 19
Forkthiefnubu:
Bs done by a paid hack

Of course it's BS.


Win-the-war meat is also BS.

Genocide and displacements of entire minority communities by Biafran rogue military is also a lie

The senseless mass murder of young minority men by your occupying orcs is also BS.

We don't care about convincing you about the real evil nature of Biafra on the minority people .

We are more concerned at never letting your atrocities on the minority people are never forgotten and to ensure that your self imposed victimhood is buried as the greatest lie ever spewed after the Jewish hollow-hoax lie

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Raskimonojendor: 1:53pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:
Reading Nigeria history is useless as you cant connect the dot to the future.

The fact that ibos are far away from federal governance for more than 60yrs and yet Nigeria problems since 1960 still remains unresolved shows neither justification nor condemnation for the coup.

To me it shows Nigeria has always been deceived by their leaders and one of the biggest deception that still sells today is that Igbos in governance is a problem.
With the cards Ironsi played by quickly elevating his tribe to key government positions, who would blame others?

Peter Obi is displaying similar characteristics of Ironsi. We saw how he elected ibos all through his election defense team. Appointing ibos as campaign coordinators in even northern states like Sokoto..Used bigotry to campaign when he was governor of Anambra, was shouting Church take back your country on a pulpit, declaring an election religious war e.t.c.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by yommen: 1:54pm On Apr 19
gidgiddy:


You don't need sessions clause to end Nigeria, there was no unity clause when Nigeria was created

The problem is many of you believe you can just get something without following processes necessary to achieve such a thing. Nnamdi Azikiwe killed a lot of Igbo dreams into many generations because of personal ambitions but you people will never see that. Your 'na only me' mentality never allows you to consider things from different angles but only your own angle. Kwantinu o

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 1:59pm On Apr 19
Raskimonojendor:

With the cards Ironsi played by quickly elevating his tribe to key government positions, who would blame others?

Peter Obi is displaying similar characteristics of Ironsi. We saw how he elected ibos all through his election defense team. Appointing ibos as campaign coordinators in even northern states like Sokoto..Used bigotry to campaign when he was governor of Anambra, was shouting Church take back your country on a pulpit, declaring an election religious war e.t.c.
You are neither right or wrong. We have seen more than 10 leaders over the span of 60yrs and I can conclude that Ironsi nor Obi did nothing different from their predecessors.
Only if your tribalism is so dark that you cant see, you are the one finding problem with Obi but not with Tinubu who is actually with the PRESIDENCY Nepotism or Various laders who stayed More month longer than 3 month yet didn't do anything different from what Ironsi did.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 2:00pm On Apr 19
Raskimonojendor:

With the cards Ironsi played by quickly elevating his tribe to key government positions, who would blame others?

Peter Obi is displaying similar characteristics of Ironsi. We saw how he elected ibos all through his election defense team. Appointing ibos as campaign coordinators in even northern states like Sokoto..Used bigotry to campaign when he was governor of Anambra, was shouting Church take back your country on a pulpit, declaring an election religious war e.t.c.

Ironsi was only there for 3 months. Peter is neither a president nor a military leader. Rest with your idiotic reasoning abeg.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 2:02pm On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:


It only exposes the extent of the rot they planted early in our nation's history .


Truly , the evil that men like Zik , Ironsi , Ojukwu and their co Marxist travellers did to our nation can never be totally expunged.

The best thing is to give you your Biafra with your five Ibo states
They actually were the ones with solution. The once with the problem expunged them and today still couldnt do better.
Igbo lost 3 million seeking for same thing you just said, and they are losing everyday asking for thesame thing since more than 60yrs.
Only if you can think.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by gidgiddy: 2:06pm On Apr 19
yommen:


The problem is many of you believe you can just get something without following processes necessary to achieve such a thing. Nnamdi Azikiwe killed a lot of Igbo dreams into many generations because of personal ambitions but you people will never see that. Your 'na only me' mentality never allows you to consider things from different angles but only your own angle. Kwantinu o

Yes we know tgat unity beggars are still chasing Zik more than 40 years after his death to ask him about secession clause

It only remains for them to ask their girlfriends for secession clause when she wants to go her way
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Raskimonojendor: 2:06pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:


Ironsi was only there for 3 months. Peter is neither a president nor a military leader. Rest with your idiotic reasoning abeg.
Yeah we saw how he quickly turned the government to a tribal one in 3 months and how Peter Obi trubalistically ran his government of Anambra for 8 years.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Raskimonojendor: 2:08pm On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:

This book reveals a lot of their atrocities.

Open air Cannibalism, genocide and displacements of minority people from their land.
Abduction and murder of young men and boys of military age James Nwafor style.

If you read Dr Graham Doughlas book you will understand why Rivers people chased them all away and took over their properties.


Some of the minority boys and men were raped by the Biafrian rebels.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 2:23pm On Apr 19
Raskimonojendor:

Some of the minority boys and men were raped by the Biafrian rebels.

That too.

Total nightmare for the SS people .


No wonder they evicted them from their lands and seized their properties.

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Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 2:24pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:

They actually were the ones with solution. The once with the problem expunged them and today still couldnt do better.

What solution ?

Carrying out an ethnic cleansing coup

Disrupting our democracy and federating system .

Imposing yourselves above your betters .


You murdered the peace and civility that existed .
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 2:29pm On Apr 19
GenSpecifics:


What solution ?

Carrying out an ethnic cleansing coup

Disrupting our democracy and federating system .

Imposing yourselves above your betters .


You murdered the peace and civility that existed .
You are just as deluded as those who took over while enriching themselves selling the ideas you just repeated.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by anungangampu: 2:33pm On Apr 19
Raskimonojendor:

Yeah we saw how he quickly turned the government to a tribal one in 3 months and how Peter Obi trubalistically ran his government of Anambra for 8 years.
Still thesame noise. 61years minus 0.3 years. 60yrs counting yet we haven't seen the messiah.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 2:34pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:

You are just as deluded as those who took over while enriching themselves selling the ideas you just repeated.

And you just said nothing.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by GenSpecifics: 2:35pm On Apr 19
anungangampu:

Still thesame noise. 61years minus 0.3 years. 60yrs counting yet we haven't seen the messiah.
Don't worry , we are all now committed biafrarists.
Re: The Nigerian Civil War And The Gullibles By Monday Effiong Noah by Chiefwandungu(m): 2:46pm On Apr 19
Quite a stupid article!

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