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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 4:31pm On Apr 19
Western legacy media and their poverty fetish when portraying Africa....Agenda is powerful sha.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:32pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Western legacy media and their poverty fetish when portraying Africa....Agenda is powerful sha.

Where is the poverty fetish in this screenshot? Did I miss it?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:36pm On Apr 19
raumdeuter:

PDP helped Wike as much as Wike helped PDP

After 2015 when they lost and every major PDP power dispersed, It was Wike who held fort even when everyone in this Atiku camp were in PDP including this Atiku, Saraki Dino etc were in APC. I saw Dino attacking Ortom for being against PDP, when Dino himself was one of those who joined to sink PDP in 2015

Wike would have gotten a portfolio with PDP IF Atiku won the same portfolio he got with Tinubu?

The likelihood of PDP winning is even low the moment Obi entered the game with or without G5.

Lets analyze it
Of the G5 Ortom supported Obi,
Ugwuanyi and Ikpeazu are inconsequential cos their states was lost to Obi anyway
Wikes Rivers ended 230K APC, 88K PDP, 175K LP. So if Wike had handed over all the APC votes to PDP, It would be PDP320K APC 0. It will be 230K votes gained to cover a deficit of 1.8m. so it will still end with a almost 1.4m margin in favor of APC


What was the margin of Tinubus win over Atiku again? Almost 1.8M votes so how much did the G5 sway?

You said Wike should go and support Atiku, the same people who swindled him, And what was the guarantee that they will even give him a cabinet that Tinubu gave him. When till last minute the people who assured him of votes changed it for him

Wike weighed his options and saw the chances of Tinubu winning was higher than Atikus and decided to join forces with him than support a Betrayer who will still likely lose

The influence of the G5 goes way beyond the G5 states.

They had considerable influence in Lagos, Ekiti, Ondo, Kano, Cross Rivers, Plateau, e.t.c.

There's no way Atiku didn't lose at least 1m votes to that foolishness of ignoring 5 governors with influence in other states without PDP governors.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 4:36pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Western legacy media and their poverty fetish when portraying Africa....Agenda is powerful sha.
Perhaps, they could have selected a better picture of Tunde?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:37pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:


The influence of the G5 goes way beyond the G5 states.

They had considerable influence in Lagos, Ekiti, Ondo, Kano, Cross Rivers, Plateau, e.t.c.

There's no way Atiku didn't lose at least 1m votes to that foolishness of ignoring 5 governors with influence in other states without PDP governors.

Which of the G5 governors has influence in Lagos? Makinde?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:38pm On Apr 19
Theflint1:
PDP moved Wike up the ranks from LGA chairman to minister and then governor, I don't think the party as an instrument had beeb unfair to him, and getting blindsided because of over-confidene wasn't the party happening to him.

Wike would most likely have gotten a portfolio in the Atiku government had he chosen to play ball and reel his g-5 crew in and in 8 or even 4 years down the road he'd be making claim for power rotation South with him looking a solid option.

I don't see how his becoming a somewhat unwanted lackey is anything better than what the PDP would have given him, and this is me speaking on Wike's self-interest alone and not some rubbish bobo or not wanting another Northern after Buhari

After that betrayal at the convention and refusal to force Ayu out, you expect him to trust them to give him any portfolio if PDP had won?

He didn't get where he is today by being stupid.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:38pm On Apr 19
BlueRayDick:


Where is the poverty fetish in this screenshot? Did I miss it?
Nigerians and majoring in minor, as if say no be the guy face Dem post...we should be channeling our soft power appropriately. News agencies would do what they can to get clicks, no be everytime we go dey fall enter their trap in the way they want.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:40pm On Apr 19
BlueRayDick:


Which of the G5 governors has influence in Lagos? Makinde?

Bode Geroge controls the PDP structure in Lagos. He was a member of the "integrity group" which was an extension of the G5.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:42pm On Apr 19
Theflint1:
The people wey post 2023 to 2024 own wey you dey use celebrate, na dem post 2025 own.

grin

.....check other countries too, especially US. LOL!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:43pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:


After that betrayal at the convention and refusal to force ayu out, you expect him to trust them to give him any portfolio if PDP had won?

He didn't get where he is today by being stupid.

Ayu was already seeing his tenure out. If Wike wasn't crying about Ayu, he'd have found another thing to cry about. Wike was not betrayed at the convention, the Tambuwal angle was one he didn't consider or plan properly against.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:44pm On Apr 19
Theflint1:
There's no way you'd dice Wikes move without it looking like he played himself... Man went from being a major political force in the PDP, probably even potential VP or presidential nominee for the party in years down the road, to becoming one of Emi Lokan's boys with zero prospects of getting any federal acceptance.

Dey play.

He still is. You cannot mention 3-5 most influential politicians in Nigeria of today without Wike.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 4:45pm On Apr 19
BlueRayDick:


Where is the poverty fetish in this screenshot? Did I miss it?
Of all the pictures to use it's an old, very old picture of Tunde. When there are 100's of recent pictures to use. Before their worldwide audience, Africa must look poor.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:46pm On Apr 19
OasisX:


grin

.....check other countries too, especially US. LOL!
E dey decline abi e no dey decline angry

There's a reason emerging markets are differentiated from developed markets (markets nearing product-market fit).

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:48pm On Apr 19
Theflint1:
How did Atikus swindle Wike? Wike spending for the party doesn't automatically give him right of refusal to the party's presidential ticket...the convention was a game of numbers and the process was made clear and transparent (no BVAS wahala)... It wasn't Atikus fault that Wike couldn't make the alliances needed to take him over the finish line, and for a first time run, he did well.

Voting dynamics are not simply a +/- thing, I still think Peter Obi wouldn't have swept traditional PDP strongholds as well as he did if PDP didn't have to deal with all the infighting...And as for Atiku appreciating Wike post election, its one of those things we might never know, but judging by precedents, odds were he'd have been, and would just have been if not more relevant than the Emi lokan singer he's become.

Nothing gives anyone the right but Wike who waited with a party in the lean times has a bigger argument compared to Atiku who flees anytime he its convenient

Which of the states wont Obi win with or without G5?

So Atiku who doesnt care about anyone except himself will care about giving him a ministry?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 4:48pm On Apr 19
GrammarNazi1:

Perhaps, they could have selected a better picture of Tunde?
Yes of course. Nothing is a coincidence. Nigerians are dragging them aggressively shaa.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:49pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:


The influence of the G5 goes way beyond the G5 states.

They had considerable influence in Lagos, Ekiti, Ondo, Kano, Cross Rivers, Plateau, e.t.c.

There's no way Atiku didn't lose at least 1m votes to that foolishness of ignoring 5 governors with influence in other states without PDP governors.

Explain G5 influence in those states. e.g in Lagos, Ondo Ekiti, Plateau and CrossRiver
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:50pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:


Bode Geroge controls the PDP structure in Lagos. He was a member of the "integrity group" which was an extension of the G5.

Bode Geroge kor, Bode lawyer ni grin

What did PDP score in Lagos at the presidential election?

Maybe u don't know that as far as Lagos is concerned PDP is a dead party, they don't even have any structure whatsoever. All Bode George is anytime an election is coming he collects money from as many people that want to contest under the dead party, do one yeye primary, field the candidate and lose scandalously eventually. The next election cycle rinse and repeat.

I've always maintained here and outside this forum that if PDP wants to have any chance at unseating APC in Lagos, they need to put in work 2-3 years before the election; not the nonsense they do every election cycle in which they will just start pasting poster 9-12 months before an election without proper grassroots mobilization.

Every week APC hold ward meetings whether it is off election season or during election season. They don't just wake few months to election wasting money on posters and advert.

Bode George just dey run gullible people streets, PDP is dead in Lagos.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:
Bode Geroge controls the PDP structure in Lagos. He was a member of the "integrity group" which was an extension of the G5.

Bode George ko Bode Thomas ni

The normal PDP votes that Bode George use to negotiate have been stolen by Obi. in Lagos especially
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:51pm On Apr 19
Theflint1:
Ayu was already seeing his tenure out. If Wike wasn't crying about Ayu, he'd have found another thing to cry about. Wike was not betrayed at the convention, the Tambuwal angle was one he didn't consider or plan properly against.

Lol, then you were not following. The betrayal was all about Ayu not even Tambuwal.

Ayu was brought to Wike by Ortom. The governors led by Wike ensured that there was little to no resistance to Ayus emergence. Wike was even the one who funded his campaign.

The plan was to make it easier for Wike to emerge as presidential candidate from the South considering that North had gotten the chairman.

Ayu not only betrayed him by supporting Atiku, he publicly hailed Tambuwal as the hero of the convention.

Infact, it was Ayu who prevailed on Atiku not to choose Wike as Vice. Atiku was going to go with the recommendation of the committee he set up.

That was why Wike demanded Ayus head. He wanted his pound of flesh.

And which tenure was Ayu seeing out? Ayu was elected in October 2021. He had a tenure of 4 years.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 4:51pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Of all the pictures to use it's an old, very old picture of Tunde. When there are 100's of recent pictures to use. Before their worldwide audience, Africa must look poor.

Tonned skin pic is the fuss?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 4:52pm On Apr 19
Amigoss:


Tonned skin pic is the fuss?
Agenda is the fuss.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 4:56pm On Apr 19
GloriousGbola:


My man okpa. grin




Apprentice model is recognized in the SE

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:57pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Western legacy media and their poverty fetish when portraying Africa....Agenda is powerful sha.

I thought you were capping but they definitely could have gotten a better picture of tunde

Man looks fresh

Even in Google it is only the BBC article that has that picture. Like they went into the archives to find the guys before before picture.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:04pm On Apr 19
raumdeuter:


Explain G5 influence in those states. e.g in Lagos, Ondo Ekiti, Plateau and CrossRiver

In Cross Rivers, their governorship candidate was a close ally of Wike. His structure worked against Atiku and supported Obi.

In Ondo, Mimiko is the leader of the party. His structure worked against Atiku and supported Tinubu

In Ekiti, you have Fayose and his men. Also a strong ally of Wike.

These are people that could easily have given Atiku some decent amount of votes in their respective states.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:07pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Of all the pictures to use it's an old, very old picture of Tunde. When there are 100's of recent pictures to use. Before their worldwide audience, Africa must look poor.

That is an African inferiority complex speaking right there.

That picture is simply from a previous BBC interview while he was with kids in the slum.

Let's stop to major in the minor abeg. How choice of picture take affect the feat he wan achieve?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 5:10pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Agenda is the fuss.

But tunde himself dey push poverty agenda with his 'chess in the slum' project,This GWR is to bring attention to his project and solicit for funding...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 5:12pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Western legacy media and their poverty fetish when portraying Africa....Agenda is powerful sha.
The article was covered by a Nigerian journalist Glory Aradi. It's your fellow Nigerian that picked the picture and she used different pictures for her articles both old and new.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68852876


https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cd1qe2glgego

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68852876

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:14pm On Apr 19
Infact, everything that happened at that convention including Tambuwal stepping down was masterminded by Ayu.

How was Wike meant to react? Smile, laugh and dance with Ayu and Atiku so they can give him a better portfolio than what APC has given him.

Easy to see why most of us will never make it as politicians cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 5:20pm On Apr 19
DeadPresidents:


Countries wey dem paper long already? The US can point to building trade relationships with countries like Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea that aided their economies to grow to the levels they currently occupy. Who can Russia point to that they put on?

If you want to give/attributes this W to US,then what happened to Nigeria grin,why didn't they put us on too?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:21pm On Apr 19
Melvyn11:

The article was covered by a Nigerian journalist Glory Aradi. It's your fellow Nigerian that picked the picture and she used different pictures for her articles both old and new.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68852876


https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cd1qe2glgego

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68852876
Gloria Aradi is from Kenya not Nigeria.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 5:25pm On Apr 19
Ellexy:
Gloria Aradi is from Kenya not Nigeria.
My bad. That Aradi was sounding like a Yoruba name.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:28pm On Apr 19
Itsrm:
Infact, everything that happened at that convention including Tambuwal stepping down was masterminded by Ayu.

How was Wike meant to react? Smile, laugh and dance with Ayu and Atiku so they can give him a better portfolio than what APC has given him.

Easy to see why most of us will never make it as politicians cheesy

Wike is a dick but he carried pdp for 8 years. He would have been a terrible VP candidate but they should have found a diplomatic way to fk him over.

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