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socialmediaman:
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/02/university-protests-arrests-ucla-dartmouth

Okay ...
This is a classic case of freedom before but NOT after speech

[quote author=softtorce post=129764741]Isreal will live to regret the killing of over 30,000 humans in 2024. Mark my words n note this is coming from a Christian too.



You don't have to claim Christian before you say what you have to say.

LegendHero:
They are Americans, they can do protest about anything in their country.

When some Nigerians walk for Trump and israel in solidarity the other time, do you agree if the government say they are arresting them?

They can protest peacefully. The peaceful ones were not arrested.

By the way the US has laws also, one of which is to defend the country against foreign and domestic enemies trying to tear it down

LegendHero:
Lol. Freedom of speech is now alien to America.

If this were to be an African country, USA would have condemned them as stopping freedom of speech and calling them authoritarian.

Same USA that support Endsars thugs that burnt public properties and etc are now arresting American students for setting up camps.

Threat to US national security is NOT freedom of speech!!!

There's no freedom of speech in the US anymore.

Freedom of speech only applies as long as you are towing the approved line.
I have lived here for almost 40 years, I know.

They are beating and arresting students who are protesting peacefully and not blocking roads.

The US has lost the moral right to advice anyone about human rights.

So for you mind I am not a Christian because I do not support the slaughter of over 30,000 humans by Isreal all because of the atrocities of Hamas ?


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CommonSense1967:
There's no freedom of speech in the US anymore.

Freedom of speech only applies as long as you are towing the approved line.
I have lived here for almost 40 years, I know.

They are beating and arresting students who are protesting peacefully and not blocking roads.

The US has lost the moral right to advice anyone about human rights.

Freedom of speech doesn't include destruction of public properties and other acts of violence while you're doing it

There are laws against antisemitism, racism and so on.

But the US supported Endsars even though alot of properties were burnt and looted.

I still know someone that lost her business and currently in serious debt because of what protesters did during that period.

The hypocritical US supported that protest and used their media to give it extra ordinary attention.

Procashtips:
But the US supported Endsars even though alot of properties were burnt and looted.

I still know someone that lost her business and currently in serious debt

You can arrest those looting without shooting those protesting peacefully

socialmediaman:
They can protest peacefully. The peaceful ones were not arrested.

By the way the US has laws also, one of which is to defend the country against foreign and domestic enemies trying to tear it down

Okay so Endsars protesters are peaceful?

socialmediaman:
You can arrest those looting without shooting those protesting peacefully

The ones that went to burn down all the buses on the mainland and even killed some police men in the process, did the US condemn them?

Hypocrisy is what the US is known for.

They're currently sponsoring a protest in Georgia because the Georgian govt is trying to enforce the same law the US enforces.

Ewedegubbler:
Islamists always wana start wars until war comes for them and they cry and start acting victim. Thunder faya Palestine and all their terrorist supporters

god punish their papa to the hundredth generation.

softtorce:
Isreal will live to regret the killing of over 30,000 humans in 2024. Mark my words n note this is coming from a Christian too.

christian

LegendHero:
Okay so Endsars protesters are peaceful?

You can arrest the looters without shooting and killing the peaceful protesters.

Moniya4Real:
I thought PROTEST is part of democracy? Imagine if protesters had been clamped down upon in another (especially unfriendly) county to the US.

The time nigerian police were killing ipob campaigners, oh ,u forgot?

socialmediaman:
Freedom of speech doesn't include destruction of public properties and other acts of violence while you're doing it

There are laws against antisemitism, racism and so on.

Stop posting rubbish trash.

Protesting against genocide is not protesting against Jews in general. The narrative that protesting the genocide in Gaza is protesting against Jews is the most asinine delusional ignoramus reasoning that I have ever heard.

Procashtips:
The ones that went to burn down all the buses on the mainland and even killed some police men in the process, did the US condemn them?

Hypocrisy is what the US is known for.

They're currently sponsoring a protest in Georgia because the Georgian govt is trying to enforce the same law the US enforces.

Burning buses is a crime and the perpetrators should be arrested and brought to book. Nobody has the right to use the guise of a peaceful protest to commit crimes.

Shooting and killing unarmed peaceful protesters is also a crime and perpetrators should be brought to book including those who gave the orders

socialmediaman:
Burning buses is a crime and the perpetrators should be arrested and brought to book. Shooting and killing unarmed peaceful protesters is also a crime and perpetrators should be brought to book including those who gave the orders

America is currently sponsoring a protest in Georgia, did you know about this?

CommonSense1967:
Stop posting rubbish trash.

Protesting against genocide is not protesting against Jews in general. The narrative that protesting the genocide in Gaza is protesting against Jews is the most asinine delusional ignoramus reasoning that I have ever heard.

None of what you alleged here was said by me, so remind me who's posting "rubbish trash" and being delusional again?

Procashtips:
America is currently sponsoring a protest in Georgia, did you know about this?

America? You mean Joe Biden or who exactly is sponsoring them?

socialmediaman:
America, you mean Joe Biden or who exactly is sponsoring them?

Are you trying to be clever by half or what does the above mean?

Georgia is a country or you thought I was talking about an American state?

realmindz:
If Palestine was that sweet, they should be there schooling. They cry victim when under fire, but when they have upper hand, they know how to make the world a terrible place.
They are same people that killed Deborah and were celebrating. Watch the video of how Deborah was killed in cold blood. You will see them all, boys and girls, all smiling and enjoying the show with their hijab.
No mercy for any Islamic gatherings.

GETT A LIFE!

Procashtips:
Are you trying to be clever by half or what does the above mean?

Georgia is a country or you thought I was talking about an American state?

What has this got to do with the discussion though? Perhaps elaborate

Why are people protesting when Palestine are the ones who said they don't want peace?

socialmediaman:
None of what you alleged here was said by me, so remind me who's posting "rubbish trash" and being delusional again?

Those are false narratives that I'm combating here daily. How is protesting against genocide considered to be antisemitism? It's complete and utter rubbish and lacks any basis in logic. It's just a way to demonize those protesting against the unjust apartheid terrorist state of Israel. The world has seen the atrocities and genocide in Gaza. The world will never forget. They will pay for their crimes against humanity, sooner or later.

socialmediaman:
You can arrest the looters without shooting and killing the peaceful protesters.

Do you know USA once shot protesters too. Student protesters that are protesting against USA continued fight in Vietnam.

And the military said they shoot up and not at protesters too for the Lekki incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmBk3T935CI?si=YnHS6PsotR5EP4j8

Vandalism and civil unrest did take place.

The war in Gaza should end, everyone is still waiting on Hamas leaders to come to the negotiating table.

And point of correction, freedom of speech is still relatively higher in America than other nations, there are a handful of nations where a president is subject to public ridicule or YouTubers can run channels to call out government. This doesn’t exist in many African countries Eastern European, Asia, Russia and some middle-eastern countries.
The US can do better but they’re light years ahead in terms of human right and liberties.
All you need do is travel to the above stated countries to verify.

CommonSense1967:
Those are false narratives that I'm combating here daily. How is protesting against genocide considered to be antisemitism? It's complete and utter rubbish and lacks any basis in logic. It's just a way to demonize those protesting against the unjust apartheid terrorist state of Israel. The world has seen the atrocities and genocide in Gaza. The world will never forget. They will pay for their crimes against humanity, sooner or later.

We're on the issue of protesters, right? So, peacefully protesting against the war on Gaza is fine, but there have been documented incidents of antisemitism, like protesters harassing and intimidating Jewish students and pushing them off campus, here is one of such reports

So remind me what was false about antisemitism being a concern again?

Veering off topic, Yes. The world has seen the devastation in Gaza. It's horrific and unfortunate. The world also saw what happened on October 7 last year before that, so yes Israel's response was seriously provoked, almost any country will respond fiercely (in defence) to its country being attacked.

That's how the world works. Tell me a country that has responded with less force. The world sees it for what it is. You can't police what the world should think about it.

Lesson there is, don't attack the citizens (who have done nothing to you) of a sovereign country on their own soil, it doesn't end well. They will do what is necessary to defend themselves, and they have a right to according to UN charter.

Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the rest are on the side of Israel on this issue as well, does that make sense?

alienvirus:
God bless Palestine!

Which God? God doesn’t bless evil or a set of terri**ist. My prayer is that the innocent and the most vulnerable be protected but evil in the land must eliminated out of Palestine. Gaza is in ruin and thousands were killed as a result of deliberate killing and rapin** of over 1200 innocent Jews.

CommonSense1967:
There's no freedom of speech in the US anymore.

Freedom of speech only applies as long as you are towing the approved line.
I have lived here for almost 40 years, I know.

They are beating and arresting students who are protesting peacefully and not blocking roads.

The US has lost the moral right to advice anyone about human rights.

Go back to ur country if u re not comfortable with what US govt is doing.

I love and respect the American spirit and their free minds
They are not afraid to fight tyranny
Unlike us in Africa

UP HAMAS.
WHAT GOD HAS DECLARED, NO ONE CAN TURN