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LandMann:
You're a certified government propaganda agent.

Only a konk government zombié or a heartless human being will make the same submissions you have been making.

On this thread you claimed that power/electricity is not a priority for Nigeria. As in! You mean you don't know that productivity is very low across Nigeria because of lack of constant electricity?

Again, you submitted that those who need constant electricity in Nigeria can already afford it and are already getting it... This group of persons you refer to cannot be more than 2% of Nigeria's population because it's only the extremely wealthy that can afford or are already getting 24/7 electricity in Nigeria. In your heart of hearts the remaining 98% can go kill themselves right? Only a certified government zombié or heartless Nigerian politician thinks this way

Again, you are also submitting that it's better for ALL businesses and individuals to switch to private electricity generation because it's cheaper, and I'm asking you, show one developed country on this earth that has practiced what you are suggesting. If you can't find any then it's because your suggestion is very foolish and impracticable.

A business that would thrive under 24 hours light that is not thriving now

Bros you are just emotional... You can't believe everything you have been taught can be wrong

doncartel:
Instead of building Lagos-Calabar highway with N15 trillion, the same amount can be invested in the power sector to give Nigerians 24-hour light.

I am arguing with someone who says that the money is better spent on the highway because Nigeria cannot achieve 24-hour electricity until like 100 years time.

At least millions of people will be taken out of darkness with N15 trillion.

Misplaced priority... The road won't reach calabar even in 2031

MEEVEET:
[b]Obviously you have difficulty comprehending basic English statements

But

1) anyone who can't afford generator cant obviously afford to pay for 24 hours light... That's a known fact

But I was specifically talking about businesses.. But yeah same apply the numbers don't know

2) maintenance of generator, plus gas supplies cost accounted for its still cheaper than national grid electricity in nigeria 100%

3) notice pollution from gas power generators are very negligible and you can always get sound proof ... Most manufacturing machines make for more noise than generators

4) yes gas turbine are designed to work for months none stops... You can always maintain them during public holidays... Even if you get 3 generators it would still be more economical than power grid

5) price of 250 is not the issue but but ratio of price... If CNG price goes up obviously price of national grid electricity goes up too na... 70% of the national grid electricity are produced from CNG also... So what exactly is your point

Is price of electricity static?

I won't be caught dead supporting APC if anything you are closer to their policy than me

Basic problem with Africa is you want to do what the West is doing now... Not what they did they they didn't have constant electricity

There were gas pipeline to homes and industrial areas before constant electricity was a thing... I'm sure u didn't know that[/b]

God bless you. Most people don’t think through these things electricity cannot be the issue for the size of our economy.

However I’d to know if most of the gas turbines are powered by CNG why is the national grid more expensive compared running cng-generator?

lionshare:
God bless you. Most people don’t think through these things electricity cannot be the issue for the size of our economy.

However I’d to know if most of the gas turbines are powered by CNG why is the national grid more expensive compared running cng-generator?

Because of inefficient transmission system, and ineffective bill collection system

Band A people pay far more percentage of bills

It's a very complex issue

If I was minister of power

We would creat 109 industrial zones across every senatorial district... Some zones can give theirs to other zone of they dont have the land

Then we pipe CNG to this zones... At least pipe them to the 6 zones so that state governors can pipe to their people

If we can get industries off the national grid 90% of heavy industry that's would create more space for house holds

2 ) all prepaid meter must be on the pole.. It looks simple but once it's not on the pole it can be manipulated

The government should spend the money on the struggle for 24-hour electricity. To start with, people in Northern Nigeria, South-East and Middle-Belt will never experience the highway but they can experience improved power supply.

Most of us Peter Obi supporters are even supporting the highway because if millions of people are lifted out of darkness, you can imagine what will happen in the 2027 election.

Secondly, the economic impact of having constant power is far greater than that of the highway. All primary school children know this.

Finally, it will make life better for Nigerians. I know the heatwave I experienced 2 weeks ago. Meanwhile I have air-conditioner and generator but no unlimited diesel. Mosquitoes now saw me as peppersoup.

I applaud all the contributions on the thread...

LandMann:
You're a certified government propaganda agent.

Only a konk government zombié or a heartless human being will make the same submissions you have been making.

On this thread you claimed that power/electricity is not a priority for Nigeria. As in! You mean you don't know that productivity is very low across Nigeria because of lack of constant electricity?

Again, you submitted that those who need constant electricity in Nigeria can already afford it and are already getting it... This group of persons you refer to cannot be more than 2% of Nigeria's population because it's only the extremely wealthy that can afford or are already getting 24/7 electricity in Nigeria. In your heart of hearts the remaining 98% can go kill themselves right? Only a certified government zombié or heartless Nigerian politician thinks this way

Again, you are also submitting that it's better for ALL businesses and individuals to switch to private electricity generation because it's cheaper, and I'm asking you, show one developed country on this earth that has practiced what you are suggesting. If you can't find any then it's because your suggestion is very foolish and impracticable.

Your problem is that you are too violent and morally bankrupt. I guess you are a product of abusive home. And that is seriously affecting your mental health. You obviously need help.
I will suggest you visit a psychiatrist.
Your cognitive rationality to engage in civilized conversation has been seriously damaged.

seunowa:
Your problem is that you are too violent and morally bankrupt. I guess you are a product of abusive home. And that is seriously affecting your mental health. You obviously need help.
I will suggest you visit a psychiatrist.
Your cognitive rationality to engage in civilized conversation has been seriously damaged.

Calm down na

MEEVEET:
Because of inefficient transmission system, and ineffective bill collection system

Band A people pay far more percentage of bills

It's a very complex issue

If I was minister of power

We would creat 109 industrial zones across every senatorial district... Some zones can give theirs to other zone of they dont have the land

Then we pipe CNG to this zones... At least pipe them to the 6 zones so that state governors can pipe to their people

If we can get industries off the national grid 90% of heavy industry that's would create more space for house holds

2 ) all prepaid meter must be on the pole.. It looks simple but once it's not on the pole it can be manipulated

How do we guarantee the safety of the pipelines under a PPP?

lionshare:
How do we guarantee the safety of the pipelines under a PPP?

What do you want to do break pressurized gas pipeline? To do what exactly?

seunowa:
Your problem is that you are too violent and morally bankrupt. I guess you are a product of abusive home. And that is seriously affecting your mental health. You obviously need help.
I will suggest you visit a psychiatrist.
Your cognitive rationality to engage in civilized conversation has been seriously damaged.

Look at your picture... Looking like a peacock begging for attention. Do you even know what it means to be morally bankrupt or you heard the English somewhere and decided to test it in a sentence here?

All of you that voted for and keep defending this wicked Tinubu government in one way or another that has plunged Nigerians into untold hardship and suffering need to be locked in a psychiatric home and feed only corn and cassava.

LandMann:
You're a certified government propaganda agent.

Only a konk government zombié or a heartless human being will make the same submissions you have been making.

On this thread you claimed that power/electricity is not a priority for Nigeria. As in! You mean you don't know that productivity is very low across Nigeria because of lack of constant electricity?

Again, you submitted that those who need constant electricity in Nigeria can already afford it and are already getting it... This group of persons you refer to cannot be more than 2% of Nigeria's population because it's only the extremely wealthy that can afford or are already getting 24/7 electricity in Nigeria. In your heart of hearts the remaining 98% can go kill themselves right? Only a certified government zombié or heartless Nigerian politician thinks this way

Again, you are also submitting that it's better for ALL businesses and individuals to switch to private electricity generation because it's cheaper, and I'm asking you, show one developed country on this earth that has practiced what you are suggesting. If you can't find any then it's because your suggestion is very foolish and impracticable.

I don't know why you are arguing with that guy. Most companies in Ogun State run on CNG, when that's not available they shut down. Sometimes most of these companies don't run for weeks due to lack of Gas supply. They don't use electricity and they can't afford afford any generator that doesn't run on CNG. I don't agree with him on that everybody that can afford electricity already has it but I agree with him that if this companies can't use electricity from government then many #33,000 salary earner can't afford it.

LandMann:
Look at your picture... Looking like a peacock begging for attention. Do you even know what it means to be morally bankrupt or you heard the English somewhere and decided to test it in a sentence here?

All of you that voted for and keep defending this wicked Tinubu government in one way or another that has plunged Nigerians into untold hardship and suffering need to be locked in a psychiatric home and feed only corn and cassava.

Sorry, this sickness in your head is really excruciating. God will touch you and heal you of all your ailments. This is my prayer for you

seunowa:
Sorry, this sickness in your head is really excruciating. God will touch you and heal you of all your ailments. This is my prayer for you

Reserve the prayer for yourself and your household.

LandMann:
Reserve the prayer for yourself and your household.

Learn how to be civil in any conversation even though you have contrary opinion.

seunowa:
Learn how to be civil in any conversation even though you have contrary opinion.

Did you vote Tinubu?
Do you support Tinubu?
Do you support Tinubu awarding a 15 trillion naira coastal highway contract to his business partner under shady circumstances while existing roads are in deplorable conditions, Nigerian workers still earning minimum wage under slave working conditions and Nigerians are being forced to pay for darkness cause no electricity?

If you answer yes to any of the above then you are a certified government propaganda zombié.

All of you operate under different tactics. Either you play ethnic card or you try to brainwash people with seemingly intelligent lies and deceit or you gaslight people into feeling guilty for not supporting a clear failure.

Again reserve your nonsense advice and prayers for your peacock looking face.

Cheers

MEEVEET:
There is no how u want constant power n your power bill would be below 150k monthly... Unless government subsidies it which we can't afford now ... And yes 98% of people who don't have 24 hours electricity can't afford it

Power is not an issue for an industry really, if we had a adequate gas pipeline network it CNG... It would be far cheaper for business to generate their own power than buy power from nation grids numbers don't lie
If you want the maths I can do it


And yes ooh if you can set up s factory, setting up a generator unit won't be the issue


Forget what you used to know

Name a business that's better to be ran with national grid power than generator. I dare you.. Let's do the maths together

This is crazy... Diesel generator vs grid power?

being:
This is crazy... Diesel generator vs grid power?

Why would you use Diesel when u can use CNG

MEEVEET:
Why would you use Diesel when u can use CNG

So when cng is not available, what happens to the company. Nestle agbara factory is connected to shell gas. But at times for weeks no gas. You will see nestle using diesel generators. Nothing I repeat beats stable electricity from grid

MEEVEET:
Why would you use Diesel when u can use CNG

Anyways while private cng plant might be comparable to national grid,
1. It cannot be cheaper cos of economies of scale
2. Many smes cannot afford the cost of d gas plant... in that it is an extra capital burden.
3. U create severe pollution in a lot of places vs a central place where it can be better managed
4. Everybody handling gas is more dangerous than it being used centrally/pipeline can be dangerous too in Nigeria

LandMann:
Did you vote Tinubu?
Do you support Tinubu?
Do you support Tinubu awarding a 15 trillion naira coastal highway contract to his business partner under shady circumstances while existing roads are in deplorable conditions, Nigerian workers still earning minimum wage under slave working conditions and Nigerians are being forced to pay for darkness cause no electricity?

If you answer yes to any of the above then you are a certified government propaganda zombié.

All of you operate under different tactics. Either you play ethnic card or you try to brainwash people with seemingly intelligent lies and deceit or you gaslight people into feeling guilty for not supporting a clear failure.

Again reserve your nonsense advice and prayers for your peacock looking face.

Cheers

You mean your mother has a peacock face. Ahh am sorry, your defective nature is hereditary.
I now know better 😁😁😁😁

seunowa:
You mean your mother has a peacock face. Ahh am sorry, your defective nature is hereditary.
I now know better 😁😁😁😁

You inherited your dirty smelly long mouth from your mother. Your father passed his empty brain to you. Cheers

being:
Anyways while private cng plant might be comparable to national grid,
1. It cannot be cheaper cos of economies of scale
2. Many smes cannot afford the cost of d gas plant... in that it is an extra capital burden.
3. U create severe pollution in a lot of places vs a central place where it can be better managed
4. Everybody handling gas is more dangerous than it being used centrally/pipeline can be dangerous too in Nigeria

Economics of scale applies to an efficient system... Nigerian national grid is very ineffective leading to the increased cost

2) you can't afford gas? Bros your small generator can be converted to gas generator

3) create pollution how? Wont same gas be burned in national grid?

4 has handling is safe in India they use nylon to handle CNG even

MEEVEET:
Firstly no it can't... But can improve power a lot

But the truth is Power is not an issue right now
Most Nigerians think like this I don't know who messed with our educational system

So, you don carry this your recycled garbage to this thread again?

MEEVEET:
90% of Nigerians who wants and can afford 24 hours electricity already have it

What about the 90% who want 24 hours electricity but can't afford it?

MEEVEET:
Then you say for industry... For an industry it's cheaper to power your own gen via CNG than use power from national grid ( my factory is an example) (/quote)
First, you don't have a factory and second, it's never more affordable to power a factory with CNG. Band A users, the most expensive electricity consumers in Nigeria, pay #225 kw/h. Let assume a factory needs 20Kwh to run. To power it for 24 hours, you'll need to spend #108,000 every day.

If you decide to use 28KVA (20Kwh) generator to power the factory, you'll need at least 6 litres of diesel to generate 20kw/h electricity, which is about #6,000 at #1000 per litre.

To run the generator for 24 hours, you'll have to spend #144,000. When you factor in the cost of maintaining the generator monthly, you'll find out it's super expensive to run a factory with generator. in 30 days, you would spend #4.32 million, while a factory on 24/7 supply from the national grid will incur only #3.24, a whooping #1.08 million difference per month and #12.96 million by the end of the year.

And you think your business can compete with a competitor saving nearly #13 million yearly on energy bills?

WEED.

[quote author=MEEVEET post=129788241]What we need is 1) create an industrial layout, pipe gas to that layout so any body can tap the gas supply and power their factory

But most importantly what businesses need right now is not power yes I own a factory and power is not and has never been an issue

MEEVEET:
1) access to credit at a reasonable interest is the key thing most business need right now

2) effect regulations and certification... If you want to export your goods the process to get certificate of export can make you give up

The number of irrelevant tax and lavies

3) access to university research on your choose field

The only place you made sense

OfficialAPCNig:
So, you don carry this your recycled garbage to this thread again?


What about the 90% who want 24 hours electricity but can't afford it?

I want a private jet na but can't afford it too... So what should I do?

I want fast internet and cant afford it too

These is why government should make decisions that would improve the earning of their citizens

Peter Obi will definitely achieve 24-hour electricity when he becomes president, going by his high level of intellect, competence and enlightenment.

MEEVEET:
Do you have any maths to show that power from national grid would be cheaper than using CNG gas generator?

Or you just assumed based on what you think you know

When someone makes a statement google

1kg of CNG cost 250 and can give you 14 kWh... On the national grid that would cost u 3500 for band A... Or 2000 for the rest bands

What we need is CNG gas pipelines to industrial layouts

The fact is, you are not exposed.
Every progressive nation needs 24 hours light.
The biggest problem in Nigeria is lack of electricity.
All sector, depends on it. Including researches you made mention of.

let them give me the contract at 10trillion

Joshy4u:
The fact is, you are not exposed.
Every progressive nation needs 24 hours light.
The biggest problem in Nigeria is lack of electricity.
All sector, depends on it. Including researches you made mention of.

Lmao you are not exposed oga
Everyone wants electricity yes but needs? Absolutely not

Electricity is a luxury anywhere in the world... Government have made their people rich enough to be able to afford the basic luxury called electricity...

MEEVEET:
What do you want to do break pressurized gas pipeline? To do what exactly?

NE & NW bandits -insurgents.

lionshare:
NE & NW bandits -insurgents.

That's their business na... Anyone or people who can't protect their asset that's their business

I have always maintained states should be charged the cost of tackling insecurity in the state

MEEVEET:
Firstly no it can't... But can improve power a lot

But the truth is Power is not an issue right now
Most Nigerians think like this I don't know who messed with our educational system

90% of Nigerians who wants and can afford 24 hours electricity already have it

Then you say for industry... For an industry it's cheaper to power your own gen via CNG than use power from national grid ( my factory is an example)

What we need is 1) create an industrial layout, pipe gas to that layout so any body can tap the gas supply and power their factory

But most importantly what businesses need right now is not power yes I own a factory and power is not and has never been an issue

1) access to credit at a reasonable interest is the key thing most business need right now

2) effect regulations and certification... If you want to export your goods the process to get certificate of export can make you give up

The number of irrelevant tax and lavies

3) access to university research on your choose field

Well said