PressMyButton:
Magnus Abe belonging in Wike's camp has sent even more shivers down the spine of Fubara. The house of assembly is an independent arm, it is not within your powers to recognize or derecognize any lawmaker, it is only the court of law that can make the pronouncement. Fubara is not facing governance, he's talking too much and might not end well for him.

But in Edo state state they are dependent arm of the Executive.

Just dey play, they are not yet the Governor dictate what to do to them

CommonSense1967:
What a delusional clown. The assembly doesn't exist because you allow them, they exist because the laws of the land allow them.
This one is already a dictator. He should be impeached asap.

The case was in court and by previous court proceedings, they all will lose their seats. Fubara withdrew the case for peace. The case will be reactivated and they will all go.

Confirmedzombie:
Fubara will be impeached on or before 25th May.

He will be picked up by DSS. Those hailing him have pushed him to his doom.

I have no sympathy for him. FG will withhold his monthly allocation and also derecognize him.

He has no powers to make this pronouncements but only the courts can do and this is already in court.

Fubara, you have lost this and all those hailing you will abandon you.

Talk is cheap

I think you should ask questions before bringing your ignorant self out. He has 100% power to short the state assembly down on the ground if this political crisis. Iv not seen where an ordinary commissional hides information from the government because he pleasing one nonsense master that thinks he is bigger than the state. The state assembly makes appointment and clear the appointed person and forced on the governor. That's rubbish of the highest order. You guys should continue to be dummy to your master. One thing that is sure, you will all be disgraced including your master.

renheart:

I think you should ask questions before bringing your ignorant self out. He has 100% power to short the state assembly down on the ground if this political crisis. Iv not seen where an ordinary commissional hides information from the government because he pleasing one nonsense master that thinks he is bigger than the state. The state assembly makes appointment and clear the appointed person and forced on the governor. That's rubbish of the highest order. You guys should continue to be dummy to your master. One thing that is sure, you will all be disgraced including your master.

He has no such power, let him try it.

Moseshasss:



If kicking FABURA out was that simple they would have done it since... They won't even mention it...
The Lawmakers knows there own defection can be challenged too.. And it's obvious they know what will happen..

They also have skeleton 💀 in their cupboard..

I believe that they are waiting for PDP new excos. Those are the people to take the lawmakers to court. If they don't, no body can touch the lawmakers.

oluwaahmed:

Stop talking like a child! Constitutionally those assembly members lost their seat the moment they decamped to APC. so they can't impeach him that was their Bleep up. They should have stayed in PDP then impeach his ass.
Section 109 of the Constitution provides,thus:

(1) A member of a House of Assembly shall vacate his seat in the House if:

g) Being a person whose election to the House of Assembly was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of any other political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected: Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored;

They stated their course of defection, "Secretary position of the national party." Now, the pdp is the only body to tell the court that their was no issue in the party in regard with the position.

Anyways, let's wait and see.

fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_8-lPFnNg
Sir Sim Fubara was addressing a delegation of Ijaw leaders led by Senator Seriake Dickson.

Bleep peace accord rubbish everyone of them. Government money they're fighting for is Wike the owner of Rivers State, we have had past governors why is his own different, did he not use federal might given to him by the Goodlucks

marksonrick:


I believe that they are waiting for PDP new excos. Those are the people to take the lawmakers to court. If they don't, no body can touch the lawmakers.

Who told you that the governor can tackle them even you can tackle them. What rubbish the 14bn he was expecting every month has be brought out in the open Ole

IfnobeGod20:

Please are you a baby? You talk more like baby and it defeats the level of your intelligence. Do you think we are still under the OBJ's era. Supreme court had ruled that FG have no right to withhold state or local government allocation for any reason. They are duty bound to pay them their statutory allocation without delay. You can't subject the whole state to financial handicap for any reason so say supreme court.
Thankfully it was Tinubu that took the case to court during OBJ's regime.

On the issue of impeachment. I wish they could try it and see who will survive it. They will chase them out of the state. They same way Ayo Fayose did to those 19 recalcitrant lawmakers then. Don't forget the power of governor and the citizens. If the Rivers state citizens are not with him and he doesn't have power in his control, it may work out for the lawmakers but as it is now, if they wish to try it, they would be roasted like corn. Sim's camp is not smiling at all.
My advise, let Wike's camp thread softly, hence, those lawmakers will be consumed without remedy.

If violence erupt and state of emergency is declared, I think it won't favour the governor

favor914:
Or you meant to say how his transducers will handle the Mumu?

This Fubara is a clear example of why power should not be handled over to poor minded people.

Even just mere looking 👀 @ him, you can tell that he is a lowlife scumbag.

Wike really did the good people of Rivers State a dishonesty, by imposing this Joker on them.

So why has he started the prosecution already?
What's stopping him?

DMerciful:
They defected to APC without any reason so the governor can prosecute them through the state attorney

Does he as a governor have the power to declare an assembly non-existent?
The answer is no...Only a court of competent jurisdiction have the power to so pronounced a state assembly non-existent.

And this country that we are,it can never happen.So the governor should trade with caution,as he doesn't have the constitutional power to declare a state assembly non-existent

Whalis:

Mr. Constitution how do people defect to another party? Please share with me a valid way of detection.
I hear that anyone who is to defect will write to the Senate president in the Senate or the speaker for house of Rep or State House of assembly indicating his intention to defect and that this must be read in the floor of the house by the Senate president or the speaker. I don't know if this is true.
If this is true did it happen in Rivers State?

Even after the man had quoted relevant section of the constitution on what constitutes defection and the consequence of defection.
That you go on the floor of the Senate or house assembly to declare that you have defected or what have you, is just a sign of senate or house assembly protocol and not written in the Nigeria constitution or any extant law.
If the defector has written to his party and verbally declared same, the defection protocol has completed and can be tender in evidence.

Didi2d:


If violence erupt and state of emergency is declared, I think it won't favour the governor

A state of emergency cannot just be declared, it all depends on the magnitude of the unrest in the state. Meanwhile, the supreme court had adjudicated that declaring of state of emergency does not affect the constituted authority. Those ones OBJ did during his time was unconstitutional and against every letters of the law of our land. State of emergency only empowers the president to draft in military presence into affected areas and not to unseat a constituted authority. Confirm!

marksonrick:


They stated their course of defection, "Secretary position of the national party." Now, the pdp is the only body to tell the court that their was no issue in the party in regard with the position.

Anyways, let's wait and see.

The non existence of the post of secretary does not render a party non-existent. For a party to be non-existent, all their daily routine must be paralyzed and a division must be visible, with both entities functioning independently.
As it is, at the time they defected the PDP was still sponsoring candidates for elections and still meeting her statutory functions and no division on record.
This issue is liken to a company with 10 directors, if one director is dead, does that render the company non-functional? Or in a school where the VP academy is no more, does that make the school to close down?

IfnobeGod20:

Even after the man had quoted relevant section of the constitution on what constitutes defection and the consequence of defection.
That you go on the floor of the Senate or house assembly to declare that you have defected or what have you, is just a sign of senate or house assembly protocol and not written in the Nigeria constitution or any extant law.
If the defector has written to his party and verbally declared same, the defection protocol has completed and can be tender in evidence.

Now the lawmakers in question have they written to their party?

yemex04:










A court would still need to establish wether or not there is/was a division in the political party both at National or State Levels... PDP is obviously not in their best moments so problems in the party is very arguable.

Aside from that, I believe the law gives the power to the speaker of the house to even give effect to the said law by declaring the defected lawmakers seats vacant.. so who is the speaker of the house? Or u think the minority 4 lawmakers will just impeach the speaker & suspend the other 25 majority to do this? That hatchet job is possible in Nigeria with only the backing of the Presidency like Obaseki in Edo.. can Fubara boast of such backing in 2024?

You're not different from those you're maligning. That a division occured at the state level of the party, that doesn't give right to defection, so say the supreme court. Supreme court had said, a defection is only allowed if the division happened at the national headquarters of the party. They gave a germane scenario. That if a branch of a bank closed down in any state, they asked, doesn't close down its headquarters? Meaning any division that happen in any state party does not affect the overall party organ.
No doubt, the court of law need to give effect to defection done by any lawmaker but nothing concerning the speaker of the house to give effect to any defection. It's just a sign of house protocol and no more. If the court can pronounce that they lost their seat because they defected, they have no right to enter the hallowed chamber again. It left for the police and other security agencies to give effect to the court pronouncement. Lobatan!

Whalis:

Now the lawmakers in question have they written to their party?

Their party or wards need to let us know this.

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PressMyButton:
Magnus Abe belonging in Wike's camp has sent even more shivers down the spine of Fubara. The house of assembly is an independent arm, it is not within your powers to recognize or derecognize any lawmaker, it is only the court of law that can make the pronouncement. Fubara is not facing governance, he's talking too much and might not end well for him.

In it current form, the federal constitution does not recognize members of Rivers State House of Assembly neither has any competent court of law made pronouncement on their status; invariably they owe their existence to the recognition accorded them by the chief executive.

IfnobeGod20:

The non existence of the post of secretary does not render a party non-existent. For a party to be non-existent, all their daily routine must be paralyzed and a division must be visible, with both entities functioning independently.
As it is, at the time they defected the PDP was still sponsoring candidates for elections and still meeting her statutory functions and no division on record.
This issue is liken to a company with 10 directors, if one director is dead, does that render the company non-functional? Or in a school where the VP academy is no more, does that make the school to close down?

it's not up to you or the drunk ingrate to decide if their reasons for defection is valid or not, leave that to the courts. Everyday you hypocrites cry about the state of affairs in Nigeria but when people you support go out of the line to perpetuate illegality, you applaud them? Who is deceiving who? I have said that there is nothing like a good Nigerian including the hypocrites criticising successive governments, Nigeria is never making it out of the trenches.

TYCO77:
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In it current form, the federal constitution does not recognize members of Rivers State House of Assembly neither has any competent court of law made pronouncement on their status; invariably they owe their existence to the recognition accorded them by the chief executive.

you're wrong and you're a kid, they gave reasons for defection, in the constitution there is a clause that permits defection and the lawmakers acted on that premise, now is it up to a drunk man to proclaim that their reasons for defection is valid or a court of competent Jurisdiction? The problem with the bulk of you, you're allowing your emotions to obscure your sense of judgements.

Wickedfacts:


Before typing this thing, hope you are aware that Magnus Abe has aligned with Wike. Do you know that that means?

By the time the House of Assembly sits in a restaurant with the valid mace and impeaches Fubara, only for the IGP to withdraw his Security details and assign them to the new Governor, let us see what you Obidients will do for Fubara.

Someone who can't win an election himself is the one you think can retain the seat himself.

Fubara is gone already. Whether he will go like Femi Pedro and Kofoworola Bucknor-Akerele or he will go like Akin Ambode is what we are not sure of.

Sorry Mr. Man, any impeachment not carried out in the constituted place is null and void. There is a designated place where the business of the House should be carry out, except there is a cogent reason they must move their sitting to another chosen place. If for example, there's need to renovate the house, fumigate the house, repair broken furnitures or any important assignment to be done that must take them away from the designated meeting place.
Again, impeachment is not a one way traffic. It involves many procedure. One, they must officially write the governor, that is, notify the governor of his offence.
Two, they must request the state Chief Justice to constitute a committee of inquiry to investigate the infractions so noted. In this one, the representative of the house must be present, the governor must be present during sitting.
Three, the committee will later write to house of their findings and also give recommendations on their findings.
Four: the house will later seat to deliberate on the committee's findings and later pass into vote whether the recommendations should be adopted or not.
Hope you have seen that is not a tea party to impeach a sitting governor. Any breached of any of these procedures render the impeachment null and void, aside using non designated place.

Meanwhile, if someone cannot win election himself, should he also be subjected to the apron spring of those that helped him win election? That he should not breathe freely, except he is dictated to. Please who do us this in this country, that we give life to what we ought not to give life to. No doubt it is good to appreciate those that helped us but those that helped us should not make themselves look like God, because they can never be one.
Besides, those Tinubu's deputies you mentioned are not governors but deputies. They don't control state macenery, so it is easier to boot deputy governor out but not easy to do that for a governor.
With all the games against Ambode were they able to get him through impeachment? Governor controls some level of powers that cannot be bought.
If those lawmakers want to try their luck, they should just try and want to initiate impeachment against Fubara and come and see firework against them.

Whalis:

Bros id you know Fubara you are supposed to advise him to make peace as soon as possible. See those in court against the house members would be told that they do not have the loquos to sue. If this pronouncement is given Fubara is gone
Meanwhile looking at the merit of the case did these house members truly defect? No. As of when they defected Ehie was the speaker. Did they write to Ehie? No. If Fubara says the Amaehule was the speaker he shoots himself in the leg because he is presumably working with a budget supposedly passed for him by Ehie as the speaker then.

See the way you just confused people. Constitutionally, they need not write to the house if they defected. Writing to the house is just a house protocol. Or you wish to show me a portion of the constitution where such was stated?
If the lawmakers either write to their wards or political party or their antiparty activities can be recorded, that is all needed and not what happened at the hallowed chamber. Please stop confusing unsuspecting nairalanders that liked and shared your comment.
I won't say much about those in court because such has not happened before that members of the party will be the one suing and not the party. I will wait to hear from the judge handling the case, if members of a political party can sue and claim their defection really affected them.
I will keep tab.
Mr. Man, impeachment is not a tea party, especially against a sitting governor. There are procedure to follow. I can tell you those lawmakers will be chase out of the city if they dare try that.

vanitybutiwanti:
it's not up to you or the drunk ingrate to decide if their reasons for defection is valid or not, leave that to the courts. Everyday you hypocrites cry about the state of affairs in Nigeria but when people you support go out of the line to perpetuate illegality, you applaud them? Who is deceiving who? I have said that there is nothing like a good Nigerian including the hypocrites criticising successive governments, Nigeria is never making it out of the trenches.

Are you different from those you're maligning? You're not. You cannot indirectly supporting godfatherism and in another breadth condemning those that says or against godfatherism. You're hypocrite and your hypocrisy is of degree one.
Mr. Man, everyone cannot be zombie like you that pays obeisance to your killer, since you don't know your left from your right.
It's never today people help others. Rendering of helps will continue till kingdom comes. Someone helped Wike to be governor and not only governor. Even chairman of his local government. Some one helped him to be chief of staff. Someone helped him to be minister. No one is immune from help. Today Jonathan and his wife that helped Wike, they are not in good term with him. What of Peter Odili and his wife? They are not in good term with him today. Please must you always have your way all the time? Wike is not God and you people should not see him as one. Everyone that has been of help to him in one way or the other, he has fought with them. Didn't he fought Rotimi Amaechi also?
This country can not move forward with your kind that always think myopically to support politicians. You need not suspend your God given IQ when supporting them.

favor914:
Who forced the Mumu clown to sign the accord?

That he signed it, doesn't make it binding on him because it is just a political solution and not a constitutional solution. Again, he said, he did it out of respect for president Tinubu but he discovered the other people are not ready for peace. They still want to control everything.
Also remember, Tinubu and Fubara doesn't belong to the same political party. No part of the constitution empowers president to dabble into political issue of another party. That guidelines he signed in the eye of the law is null and void.

Nerogee:

The same Attorney General that the Governor is accusing of sabotaging him? Dey play

That one has resigned after he redeployed him to special duties abi women affairs

marksonrick:


I believe that they are waiting for PDP new excos. Those are the people to take the lawmakers to court. If they don't, no body can touch the lawmakers.

No, the constitution did not say only the party can take them to court. In fact, any of their constituents can take them to court

IfnobeGod20:

See the way you just confused people. Constitutionally, they need not write to the house if they defected. Writing to the house is just a house protocol. Or you wish to show me a portion of the constitution where such was stated?
If the lawmakers either write to their wards or political party or their antiparty activities can be recorded, that is all needed and not what happened at the hallowed chamber. Please stop confusing unsuspecting nairalanders that liked and shared your comment.
I won't say much about those in court because such has not happened before that members of the party will be the one suing and not the party. I will wait to hear from the judge handling the case, if members of a political party can sue and claim their defection really affected them.
I will keep tab.
Mr. Man, impeachment is not a tea party, especially against a sitting governor. There are procedure to follow. I can tell you those lawmakers will be chase out of the city if they dare try that.

To add to what you said, the law did not provide that only the party organ can sue. ANY of their constituents can sue them for defection as well.
If those recalcitrant law makers attempt any impeachment, they will lose those seats and that's if they even see anywhere to seat in Rivers State to conduct their impeachment.

I don't even understand some morons supporting those lawmakers because of Wike. While Fubara and Wike all have their selfish conducts, it is only in a fools republic people will be outwardly supporting a commissioner that is outwardly showing his allegiance to someone that is not in government while working under a current governor.
How can an assembly and commissioners show in public their allegiance to a private citizen when they have a governor they statutorily work with.

IfnobeGod20:

Are you different from those your maligning? You're not. You cannot indirectly supporting godfatherism and in another breadth condemning those that says or against godfatherism. You're hypocrite and your hypocrisy is of degree one.
Mr. Man, everyone cannot be zombie like you that pays obeisance to your killer, since you don't know your left from your right.
It's never today people help others. Rendering of helps will continue till kingdom comes. Someone helped Wike to be governor and not only governor. Even chairman of his local government. Some one helped him to be chief of staff. Someone helped him to be minister. No one is immune from help. Today Jonathan and his wife that helped Wike, they are not in good term with him. What of Peter Odili and his wife? They are not in good term with him today. Please must you always have your way all the time? Wike is not God and you people should not see him as one. Everyone that has been of help to him in one way or the other, he has fought with them. Did he fought Rotimi Amaechi also?
This country can not move forward from. Your kind that always think myopically to support politicians. You need not suspend your God given IQ when supporting them.

you just wrote an Emotional bullshiit which doesn't change anything, he has no power to declare anybodies seat vacant, he was drunk when he made that pronouncement, if he wants them to lose their seats, tell him to compell the pdp to challenge their defections and the reasons they gave for defecting, don't come here to gaslight people about godfather bullshiit, what do you know about sim fubara? Is he not also living large and stealing money? Was he not a product of a rigged election? Why didn't he speak up against the election that made him governor since he's a saint? He's empty rhetorics are made to deceive gullible individuals like you.

Please don't run, can you show us video evidence of the fomer governor speaking against Jonathan and his wife? You talk about the odilis, do you know that he exalted and worshipped the odilis in 8 years? Buffons like you that do not understand what's happening are always eager to write bullshiit on the Internet, as at 2021, patience and GEJ still visited wike in government house port Harcourt, the ingrate could not wait for a year to elapse, he's already fighting people that made him who he is and we have gullible cretins like you supporting him.

IfnobeGod20:

Their party or wards need to let us know this.

I like this. Can you see where the issue lies. The party hasn't said so. Their wards haven't said so. So the person going to court to declare their seats vacant who did he hear from?

Moronic Nigerians keep electing fools to house of power in Nigeria. Imagine a Governor of State indicating another arm of the government does not exist.

vanitybutiwanti:
you're wrong and you're a kid, they gave reasons for defection, in the constitution there is a clause that permits defection and the lawmakers acted on that premise, now is it up to a drunk man to proclaim that their reasons for defection is valid or a court of competent Jurisdiction? The problem with the bulk of you, you're allowing your emotions to obscure your sense of judgements.

Thanks. Ancient of days.