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bobestman:
Lol. He never agree. He will always come up with sth to save his sorry ass. The way the guy behave you will know that he never use his brain. He is probably typing from a handout JW gave him.

Thanks the bible verse makes it more simple

Should I say I didn't learn from your conversation you had with him. I will be lying .

That's why I tell MaxInDHouse should not always see Nairaland as a platform to peddle his lies and manipulations packed into his brains by his religious leaders without learning. He will keep missing out based on his arrogance of being the custodian of bible knowledge as packed into his brains by his GODS

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham questioned God regarding the action to destroy he asked God:

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:25

So he was so sure that God can only justify the destruction of the evildoers not the righteous!

Keep on speaking and behaving in such a way as those do who are going to be judged by the law of a free people.* 13 For the one who does not practice mercy will have his judgment without mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.


MaxInDHouse stop going from one thread to another thread peddling madness and Insanities by judging people based on the law of Jehovah's Witnesses you will be better of sticking to...

Keep on speaking and behaving in such a way as those do who are going to be judged by the law of a free people aka law of freedom.

You always lament people like us just want do whatever we like without no one checking us

Learn. Mercy triumphs over your better performing performance religious group you are using to judge and judgement
;Dothers. You don't know yet what you have come to accept and believe.

achorladey:
Chai you don hang that MaxInDHouse too much. I was laughing when he was busy asking questions. The questions he cannot attempt knowing the lies of a response will be debunked

MaxInDHouse your false humility exposed. I will keep saying don't come to nairaland to brag about that your package madness and insanities peddling in your brains as Bible truth. Sometimes people come to read comments on nairaland and learn not to respond to post in the name of being the custodians of Bible knowledge

Hahaha he even avoided many questions cos he has no answer. He dare not bring any of their dogtrines wherever i am cos i know all their lies and can easily expose them with the bible

Can you answer questions using the Bible to convince a neutral person about the God of Abraham?

bobestman:
Hahaha he even avoided many questions cos he has no answer. He dare not bring any of their dogtrines wherever i am cos i know all their lies and can easily expose them with the bible

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham questioned God regarding the action to destroy he asked God:

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:25

So he was so sure that God can only justify the destruction of the evildoers not the righteous!

When we talked about your madness and insanities peddling, evidence full ground. That pride and arrogance of Bible knowledge packed into your madness and insanities peddling by your GODS of men housed in USA will continue to get exposed......

From here.....

Job 9:23,23....It is all the same. That is why I say, ‘He destroys the innocent and the wicked alike.’ If a flash flood could cause sudden death, he would mock at the despair of the innocent

Then.....

Ezekiel 21:3 - 5 Say to the land of Israel, ‘This is what Jehovah says: “Here I am against you, and I will bring my sword out of its sheath and cut off from you both the righteous and the wicked Because I will cut off from you the righteous and the wicked, my sword will be drawn from its sheath against all flesh,* from south to north. 5 All people will have to know that I myself, Jehovah, have drawn my sword from its sheath. It will not go back again.”’

So when I told you that what Isaiah said about God's thoughts. Isaiah 55: 8,9

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts.....

Abraham was expressing his thoughts about the issue when you know the way Abraham thinks cannot be compared to that of God

Genesis 18:25.....

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?”

Aemmyjah the stupid apostate peddling brains supporting Babies are God's enemies, Werey peddling brains Janosky aka JaNosense the leading light in babies are God's enemies the cornelboy abi na cornelgirl tagged along in that madness and insanities peddling food is ready. While eating answer the question.....

Is it unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same?


cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz, bobestman

MaxInDHouse:
INNOCENCE simply means one who is not part of a case such a person knows nothing about what really happened so when talking about such case he or she is INNOCENT.
FAITHFUL refers to someone who dedicate his or her life to a course even though he or she may have offended many just to fulfil the course.

When talking about God's Kingdom no innocent person can gain entry rather God is rewarding only those who are FAITHFUL.

Faith will surely expose it's bearer to dangers in the hands of the faithless because he will stand and speak up against faithlessness but the innocent will remain silent not knowing which side he or she should fall to.


Jesus said:

"Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.  For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. Matthew 10:34-39

From the above statement can someone rightly say Jesus was INNOCENT regarding the troubles the Pharisees and Sadducees were dragging with him that led to his execution?

Surely not because he knew the one behind their actions {John 8:44} and he is ever ready to kick against both Satan and his agents so when standing before Pontius Pilate Jesus remained silent knowing fully well the real course of his persecution.

But did Pontius Pilate understand what was happening?

NO! Pilate was INNOCENT of the whole thing.

But does that mean Pilate will be given a Visa into God's Kingdom?

Not until he proved which side he will stand!

what evil noises and nonsenses are you writing, is it definitely not about the one true God.

"No innocent person can gain entry" into where? So your God destroys the innocent abi? You're have been deceived to worshiping the devil instead of God YHVH.

The Matthew 10:34–35 you quoted, what does it have to do with what you wrote next.

Innocent doesn't mean ignorant, innocent means not guilty for a crime. You are not innocent of your crime against English, you may be ignorant but definitely not innocent of changing the meaning of words and things

gohf:
what evil noises and nonsenses are you writing, is it definitely not about the one true God. "No innocent person can gain entry" into where? So your God destroys the innocent abi? You're have been deceived to worshiping the devil instead of God YHVH.
The Matthew 10:34–35 you quoted, what does it have to do with what you wrote next.
Innocent doesn't mean ignorant, innocent means not guilty for a crime. You are not innocent of your crime against English, you may be ignorant but definitely not innocent of changing the meaning of words and things

Children destroyed during the flood of Noah's day, in Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

MaxInDHouse:
Children destroyed during the flood of Noah's day, in Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

they were wicked

gohf:
they were wicked

So they're not INNOCENT despite being babies shey?
Thanks!

Sometimes when the Governing Body present something apostates will start carrying it from one place to another expectating people they told to hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
At least someone is hear who also claim that babies destroyed during the flood in Noah's days, babies in Sodom and Gomorah, babies in Jericho and Amalek WERE WICKED!

So our brother who said all babies are God's enemies until they're taught the righteousness of God got it excellently!

MaxInDHouse:
Children destroyed during the flood of Noah's day, in Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

gohf:
they were wicked

Interestingly most people think babies are innocent simply because they can't choose whether to be good or evil but here is another person who concluded that babies are evil as in WICKED!

MaxInDHouse:
Interestingly most people think babies are innocent simply because they can't choose whether to be good or evil but here is another person who concluded that babies are evil as in WICKED!

is it really about me or about God 😏

Was I the one to judge them so 🤷🏾‍♂️

Are you saying God judged wrongly and he destroys the innocent along with the wicked?

MaxInDHouse:
So they're not INNOCENT despite being babies shey?
Thanks!

do you now see your wicked heart, of course you can't

Why did you not ask the babies why did you say children. Obviously was it not to deceive.

But you fail to understand something about God. Does God judge based on age?

You have so little understanding of God that you restore to petty deception to score some cheap online points. Go ahead and believe God will destroy the innocent with the wicked.

I must have missed this quote.

Do you even understand what the judgement of God is, do you think leaving this life is that judgement?

So people died is that judgement, didn't Jesus say repent or your fate will be far worse they theirs. Yet you think because children or in your terms babies die in natural disasters they were judged by God.

Whose children are they? Are they not children of men?

Would you justify yourself just to condemn God

gohf:
is it really about me or about God 😏
Was I the one to judge them so 🤷🏾‍♂️
Are you saying God judged wrongly and he destroys the innocent along with the wicked?

Well God DESTROYED babies and sucklings so that means those babies aren't innocent as you have said earlier but some people want to assert that they are innocent so if God destroyed them and He only destroys wicked people definitely those babies are WICKED as in EVIL.

That's the import of this thread!

gohf:
do you now see your wicked heart, of course you can't

Why did you not ask the babies why did you say children. Obviously was it not to deceive.

But you fail to understand something about God. Does God judge based on age?

You have so little understanding of God that you restore to petty deception to score some cheap online points. Go ahead and believe God will destroy the innocent with the wicked.

I must have missed this quote.

Do you even understand what the judgement of God is, do you think leaving this life is that judgement?

So people died is that judgement, didn't Jesus say repent or your fate will be far worse they theirs. Yet you think because children or in your terms babies die in natural disasters they were judged by God.

Whose children are they? Are they not children of men?

Would you justify yourself just to condemn God

Guy you don't need all this epistle.

I asked you:

MaxInDHouse:
Children destroyed during the flood of Noah's day, in Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

Your response:

gohf:
they were wicked

So what are you saying again?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you don't need all this epistle.

I asked you:

Your response:

So what are you saying again?

what is written?

You can't understand my words because you neither understand scripture nor know God.

Gen.6.5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

This was the basis by which he flooded the world. But Noah was saved because he was righteous and found grace in the eyes of God.

2Pet.2.5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
2Pet.2.6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah the Lord came down to see for himself, to judge, to find those who were righteous. Are you saying the Lord is blind and he lied to Abraham whom he promised that he would spare the city if he found 10 righteous men?

1 Peter 3:19-20 did you read what Peter wrote that Jesus did?

Read Luke 13:1-5, people die not just because they are sinners but we have to repent so that we do not perish.

Your little mind assumes and therefore misinterprets even when it is explained to you, so you still ask, what are you saying again, because you have either closed yourself off reasoning and refused to listen or you are basically purposeful avoiding the truth.


You are actually the one that needs this epistles but if only you realise your need for it

MaxInDHouse:
Well God DESTROYED babies and sucklings so that means those babies aren't innocent as you have said earlier but some people want to assert that they are innocent so if God destroyed them and He only destroys wicked people definitely those babies are WICKED as in EVIL.

That's the import of this thread!

God judged Jacob and Esau in the womb

He called Jeremiah from the womb

Do you think God is devoid of knowledge either of the present or the future to know those who are wicked and just.

Do you think his arm is too short to save those whom he finds have hearts that are like his.


God destroys that which isn't of His will, that which isn't His (what he planted), will a farmer not destroy weed?

gohf:
what is written?
You can't understand my words because you neither understand scripture nor know God.
Gen.6.5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
This was the basis by which he flooded the world. But Noah was saved because he was righteous and found grace in the eyes of God.
2Pet.2.5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
2Pet.2.6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah the Lord came down to see for himself, to judge, to find those who were righteous. Are you saying the Lord is blind and he lied to Abraham whom he promised that he would spare the city if he found 10 righteous men?
1 Peter 3:19-20 did you read what Peter wrote that Jesus did?
Read Luke 13:1-5, people die not just because they are sinners but we have to repent so that we do not perish.
Your little mind assumes and therefore misinterprets even when it is explained to you, so you still ask, what are you saying again, because you have either closed yourself off reasoning and refused to listen or you are basically purposeful avoiding the truth.
You are actually the one that needs this epistles but if only you realise your need for it

Guy, if you want to correct yourself just do so and stop all these story it doesn't add up.

Here is the question again perhaps you've changed your stand.

Children destroyed during Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

Now take a deep breath before responding!

gohf:
God judged Jacob and Esau in the womb
He called Jeremiah from the womb
Do you think God is devoid of knowledge either of the present or the future to know those who are wicked and just.
Do you think his arm is too short to save those whom he finds have hearts that are like his.
God destroys that which isn't of His will, that which isn't His (what he planted), will a farmer not destroy weed?

Irrelevant!

Answer the simple question:

Children destroyed during Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant!

Answer the simple question:

Children destroyed during Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

If the word of God is irrelevant to you why is my opinion important

I will answer you not according to your choice but according to the written word

THEY WERE WICKED. be it the little children that stole like their fathers or lied like their mothers.

THEY WERE WICKED.

If you like assume and conclude that because they were judged so, that all children are. That is your business.

gohf:
THEY WERE WICKED.

So you don't need stories, babies are WICKED.

Period!

FOOLISHNESS jump into a discussion without having full knowledge of the discussion! Proverbs 15:2

Babies are born sinners whether they can talk or not {Psalms 51:5} as long as they part of the human family they are God's enemies {Romans 3:23; 5:12} but we can become God's friends by learning about His ways that's why God commanded the Israelites of ancient times to inculcate His laws in the hearts of their children! Deuteronomy 6:6-7

So as long as these children are living by what God's word says they remain His friend but once they turn aside they instantly become His enemies deserving death! 2Kings 2:24

Does Being Innocent Mean Loyalty To God?

achorladey:
This one too don choke on the lies and manipulations. Na me drag you come here abi? .

Parasites ko, Commensalism ni

😂😂😂😂

achorladey:
Admittance of lies and manipulations. We know your hands have been itching you to type as the morning session goes on in sheep mode after the end of the day's session you go back to your wolf mode peddling insult and abuses before the sessions tomorrow .

Trying hard to unread what I read in the post!
Like, whaddaheck was that!
Such convoluted heap of lies?
Are these guys on some cheap stuff?
Bunch of confused lots

CJStarz:
Trying hard to unread what I read in the post!
Like, whaddaheck was that!
Such convoluted heap of lies?
Are these guys on some cheap stuff?
Bunch of confused lots

Na so their mode of operation be. They swallow the cool aid as delivered by their GODS of men housed in USA.

Can we quantify innocence with loyalty to God?