₦airaland Forum

Verbtips:
then what the fact of the issue.

Unionism has a rule of engagement. They have law guiding their operations. They will not declare strike that will cripple the country.
When they declare strike there are indices they looked at to take their next decisions.
The aim of strike is to agitate for what they want but not to turn the country upside down.

If in the process of declaring the strike they err on the side of the law they can be arrested and jailed

Ten06:
Unionism has a rule of engagement. They have law guiding their operations. They will not declare strike that will cripple the country.
When they declare strike there are indices they looked at to take their next decisions.
The aim of strike is to agitate for what they want but not to turn the country upside down.

yes i know this,but dat doesn't change the fact labour isn't functioning efficiently
am not seeing their impact

opeyemi2012:
At this point, NLC has to apply wisdom and FG has to apply sincerity.

Is N60,000 fair? No.

FOR THE FG
The FG should stop gaslighting and using media propaganda to vilify the NLC. If Labour proposed 494,000 and gave a breakdown of how they arrived at that figure, it is only reasonable that FG also break down how they arrived at 60,000. But FG is yet to do that despite several calls by NLC. That's hypocrisy at best and also the FG indirectly admitting that N60,000 waa simply arrived at without the current economic reality put into consideration.

When Jonathan increased MW to 18,000 in 2011, it was equivalent to 109 dollars but 60,000 today is just a little over 40 dollars. Are you creating more wealth or poverty?

At a time government increased the allocation of NASS from around 130billion to over 350 billion and proposed the increment of judicial workers' pay with each federal judge taking home allowances of over 50million per annum and salaries of over 4million, it is provocative to offer peanuts to civil servants and other workers. Even the military government in Burkina Faso are doing better than this.

Tinubu himself promised a living wage. Is N60,000 a living wage with the current levels of food and headline inflation?

FOR STATE GOVERNORS
These criminals have long impoverished their people. Failing to implement improved wages despite increased FAAC allocations. Withholding and embezzling LG funds. Embarking on massive road construction projects for kick-backs rather than true patriotism. Imagine a State paying workers 7000 minimum wage till now. A state rich with gold. Yet the governor will be competing with Lagos or Edo State governor by riding in a 10-15 exotic cars convoy, with sirens blaring to the faces of the suffering masses. Using the commonwealth of the state to fund their opulent lifestyles.
God will specially punish Soludo and any other governor that has opened his mouth to say they cannot afford to pay minimum wages. Lazy fools always waiting for sharing of monthly FAAC. They cannot think out of the box.

FOR LABOUR
Wisdom is profitable to direct. The elites do not want the poor to be empowered. Keeping the poor in poverty is a political weapon that helps the political class during elections. That's why Buhari couldn't lift 1 million people out of poverty despite promising to lift a 100million. That is why Tinubu promised a living wage and is now offering 60,000 that cannot fuel his car in 1 week.

If the FG offers 70 or 80k, please accept it with conditions. Let the conditions be as follows:

1. Government should reintroduce the things that made civil service attractive and encouraged productivity such as low-cost mass housing scheme where civil servants can live and be paying from their monthly salaries with the option of a rent-to-own offer after several years.

2. Government must with immediate effect release the so-called CNG buses that they have been claiming they provided since last year. Enough should be be released to cater for the daily transportation needs of public and private sector workers, and indeed Nigerians in general.

3. Reintroduce gratuity into the civil service. That should be a reward for serving government for at least 10 years. I wonder why it was scrapped in the first place. It was a lifeline for many civil servants. This contributory pension is not enough to guarantee anyone a good life after retirement. Imagine not being able to contribute 1million naira after over 6 years in the public service. Imagine earning 40,000 as monthly pension for a person who retired on level 14 officer in this present economy?

4. Reintroduce very low interest loans for workers. Thankfully, the creditcorp recently launched hopes to address this but just like the audio CNG buses, we are yet to see anything.

5. Lastly, since government cannot solve the issue of insecurity within a short period of time, then the little that is being produced by farmers can be bought directly by government, thereby ensuring a reliable and constant income for the farmers. Now the government should open a food bank in all the 774 local government areas (or perhaps the LGAs not controlled by Boko Haram or Bandits) and sell these agricultural products at subsidised rates to citizens. This will force the foodstuff hoarders and wicked businessmen to force down the prices of their items. Anyone caught buying from the food bank to resell at exorbitant prices should be arrested and jailed without playing politics. Also, open the fcking borders for a period of time. Let there be massive competition in the food market.

Government will still fail to implement all this solution, Labour should still stick to 200k, nothing less, you remove fuel subsidies, Electricity subsidy, and you expect things to remain the same

Ouchbabe:
If not that I don't like insulting people, I would have told you to go back home and call that woman that brought you to life MUMU

and you don't insulting people. Nigeria I hail thee

Akwamkpuruamu:
FG should simply state how they arrived at 60k per month. The 100% increase from 30k Is nothing.

A plate of food for a family of 4, in the worst case scenario is 2k and that is 6k per day times 30

This is almost 180k. OK let's say it's 3k per day, that's 90k.

No transport to work, no utility bill payment, no school fees of the kids, clothing and rent.

So how do you expect the worker to cope?

As NLC is insisting, let the FG breakdown the 60k offer into feeding, clothing, rent and education

but 90 billion was spent on hajji trips. Tinubu is a faulty grenade. A Daunce

Akwamkpuruamu:
FG should simply state how they arrived at 60k per month. The 100% increase from 30k Is nothing.

A plate of food for a family of 4, in the worst case scenario is 2k and that is 6k per day times 30

This is almost 180k. OK let's say it's 3k per day, that's 90k.

No transport to work, no utility bill payment, no school fees of the kids, clothing and rent.

So how do you expect the worker to cope?

As NLC is insisting, let the FG breakdown the 60k offer into feeding, clothing, rent and education

Oil dey your head my dear.

Caicedo:
Something that all of us should be doing in front of our street carry written cardboard to protest about the hardship high inflation of this new government,other African country are not sacred of there government but why we Nigeria are always afraid to talk

Honestly! Tribalism is our problem in this country.

delkuf:
and you don't insulting people. Nigeria I hail thee

Of course I don't like insulting people. Check all my comments

Verbtips:
yes i know this,but dat doesn't change the fact labour isn't functioning efficiently
am not seeing their impact

You should understand by now that the forces they are fighting against is more or less like a cabal. They are fighting against people who have entrenched themselves in the position of power and are currently milking the country with careless abandoned.

Mandate1:
I still don't get you. We are talking about minimum wage for the lowest cadre of the Nigerian labour force, and you're talking about them being employers of labour and having alternatives. Is this the bone of contention? Are they employed with the agreement to have alternate source of income and divided attention, or to give their full time and effort to their organisation?

Secondly, talking about solution. How is selective importation a solution? Rice has been banned from time ago and the price wasn't to the roof as today, so it has nothing to do with importation. Rice and food price is expensive today because of the high cost of fuel and diesel. Moreso, due to unpredictable exchange and huge custom tariff on importation.

You still don't get the disruptions thatva massive pay out would cause to the economy. So let us agree to disagree.

is this 71 percent even correct ?

DMerciful:
On a side note,
Ronus started shouting regional govt but immediately Woye(fg not Tinubu crooner) said Lagos will not be part of SW, the frenzy started dying.

Lagos has never been part of Western Nigeria! . Lagos belongs to all Nigerians equally

Why has it become a habit of Nigeria Government to be compel by industrial action before the do the needful, dont they have shame?

I will consider NLC serious when the STRIKE entered it 3rd week

Ten06:
You should understand by now that the forces they are fighting against is more or less like a cabal. They are fighting against people who have entrenched themselves in the position of power and are currently milking the country with careless abandoned.

absolutely correct,you really on point

It is safe to say that politicians always beat the harsh economic realities by awarding themselves estacodes, allowances, payouts, including SUVs, sitting allowances, etc...

BUT when it comes to Civil Servants, they propose what they use to fill their fuel tank in just one sitting...

NLC people: una too cold for our liking. By now, those politicians should be begging you with ₦700k minimum wage!

FG will shamelessly spend billions on Hajj and allowances for themselves and suddenly realize there's paucity of funds when minimum wage is mentioned.

Make the strike reach one week abeg, make I do small farm work

BreconHills:
You still don't get the disruptions thatva massive pay out would cause to the economy. So let us agree to disagree.

no disruption can be more painful than the one caused by fuel being sold at 700

eddynaira125:
Government will still fail to implement all this solution, Labour should still stick to 200k, nothing less, you remove fuel subsidies, Electricity subsidy, and you expect things to remain the same

if not that the president is daft is it not from the salaries that the people would be able to for his expensive products and taxes and even boost the capacity of the real sector that will enjoy increase patronage leading to more profits and expansion and then employment, the government will even enjoy increase tax revenue from the increase profits of the companies
A living wage is a win win for the economy but the government do not want that ,they want a poor society where they can remote control the people

jeff1993:
Useless labour
.....lster now they will backslide

Atenuje Labour.

opeyemi2012:
At this point, NLC has to apply wisdom and FG has to apply sincerity.

Is N60,000 fair? No.

FOR THE FG
The FG should stop gaslighting and using media propaganda to vilify the NLC. If Labour proposed 494,000 and gave a breakdown of how they arrived at that figure, it is only reasonable that FG also break down how they arrived at 60,000. But FG is yet to do that despite several calls by NLC. That's hypocrisy at best and also the FG indirectly admitting that N60,000 waa simply arrived at without the current economic reality put into consideration.

When Jonathan increased MW to 18,000 in 2011, it was equivalent to 109 dollars but 60,000 today is just a little over 40 dollars. Are you creating more wealth or poverty?

At a time government increased the allocation of NASS from around 130billion to over 350 billion and proposed the increment of judicial workers' pay with each federal judge taking home allowances of over 50million per annum and salaries of over 4million, it is provocative to offer peanuts to civil servants and other workers. Even the military government in Burkina Faso are doing better than this.

Tinubu himself promised a living wage. Is N60,000 a living wage with the current levels of food and headline inflation?

FOR STATE GOVERNORS
These criminals have long impoverished their people. Failing to implement improved wages despite increased FAAC allocations. Withholding and embezzling LG funds. Embarking on massive road construction projects for kick-backs rather than true patriotism. Imagine a State paying workers 7000 minimum wage till now. A state rich with gold. Yet the governor will be competing with Lagos or Edo State governor by riding in a 10-15 exotic cars convoy, with sirens blaring to the faces of the suffering masses. Using the commonwealth of the state to fund their opulent lifestyles.
God will specially punish Soludo and any other governor that has opened his mouth to say they cannot afford to pay minimum wages. Lazy fools always waiting for sharing of monthly FAAC. They cannot think out of the box.

FOR LABOUR
Wisdom is profitable to direct. The elites do not want the poor to be empowered. Keeping the poor in poverty is a political weapon that helps the political class during elections. That's why Buhari couldn't lift 1 million people out of poverty despite promising to lift a 100million. That is why Tinubu promised a living wage and is now offering 60,000 that cannot fuel his car in 1 week.

If the FG offers 70 or 80k, please accept it with conditions. Let the conditions be as follows:

1. Government should reintroduce the things that made civil service attractive and encouraged productivity such as low-cost mass housing scheme where civil servants can live and be paying from their monthly salaries with the option of a rent-to-own offer after several years.

2. Government must with immediate effect release the so-called CNG buses that they have been claiming they provided since last year. Enough should be be released to cater for the daily transportation needs of public and private sector workers, and indeed Nigerians in general.

3. Reintroduce gratuity into the civil service. That should be a reward for serving government for at least 10 years. I wonder why it was scrapped in the first place. It was a lifeline for many civil servants. This contributory pension is not enough to guarantee anyone a good life after retirement. Imagine not being able to contribute 1million naira after over 6 years in the public service. Imagine earning 40,000 as monthly pension for a person who retired on level 14 officer in this present economy?

4. Reintroduce very low interest loans for workers. Thankfully, the creditcorp recently launched hopes to address this but just like the audio CNG buses, we are yet to see anything.

5. Lastly, since government cannot solve the issue of insecurity within a short period of time, then the little that is being produced by farmers can be bought directly by government, thereby ensuring a reliable and constant income for the farmers. Now the government should open a food bank in all the 774 local government areas (or perhaps the LGAs not controlled by Boko Haram or Bandits) and sell these agricultural products at subsidised rates to citizens. This will force the foodstuff hoarders and wicked businessmen to force down the prices of their items. Anyone caught buying from the food bank to resell at exorbitant prices should be arrested and jailed without playing politics. Also, open the fcking borders for a period of time. Let there be massive competition in the food market.

you see those Govonors eee

BreconHills:
You still don't get the disruptions thatva massive pay out would cause to the economy. So let us agree to disagree.

Massive pay out for how many of the total number of workers in Nigeria?

The 60k is ok.That is 100% increase

NLC will effectively make or mar its potent and seriousness with this declaration of indefinite strike. Let it not be an audio strike this time around o.

Thomthom:
you see those Govonors eee

They are demons

Streetinvestor2:
The 60k is ok.That is 100% increase

It's not when you consider the current value of the naira to the dollar. The so called 100% increase is an illusion meant to deceive the gullible public

30k minimum wage approved by Buhari 5 years ago was $83 as at that time

At the moment, 60k is equivalent to about $44. So where is the imaginary 100% increase? Show me .

You have allowed the government to deceive you with figures, 60k, that doesn't amount to anything in the market

Bamss1:
Though that 400k too much but govt should at least offer 100k. Country hard

Labor are looking at 100k

Mandate1:
anything between 100-150k is fairly okay. Except we are not being honest with ourselves. Things are damn expensive.

yes soo

triplechoice:
It's not when you consider the current value of the naira to the dollar. The so called 100% increase is an illusion meant to deceive the gullible public

30k minimum wage approved by Buhari 5 years ago was $83 as at that time

At the moment, 60k is equivalent to about $44. So where is the imaginary 100% increase? Show me .

You have allowed the government to deceive you with figures, 60k, that doesn't amount to anything in the market

The work is not by force.The so called civil servant don't contribute more than majority of Nigerians on the street doing 8-6 pm work and still get less than that amount. This civil
servant go to work by 9 and close 4pm without doing anything serious and don't work on Saturdays. An office that should not be more than 3 person,you will see like 10 people doing nothing. If you feel the money is not enough. You resign and try private work or get self employed.
Who is speaking for the hard working Nigerians in small businesses,artisian and petty traders who work more and still don't see 60k by month end

StreetFight:
Nigerian elders have done their best since their early ages, you too should try yours. How long do you want to keep sucking your mother's Breasts?

Wole Soyinka has been fighting against bad government since the 60s, he even went with a toy gun to hold a radio station hostage and broadcasted live anti-government speech. Yet cursed children whose parents were hiding under their grandma's bed when Wole Soyinka was holding radio station hostage, they still want Woke Soyinka to be fighting for them now at his old age of 87 when their own father's have died ontop of underaged girls in hotels.

Gani Fawehinmi died fighting for the rights of you youths, likewise Ken Saro Wiwa. Femi Falana hasn't stop fighting for you youths with all his hair turned white .

When will you fight for your rights? Take your destiny into your hands, fight for your rights, stop waiting for old men to fight for you

wole soyinka was active during jonathan regime to protest but said nothing during tinubu tenure....same old people give the order and criticize youth protesting agaist police brutality...let those who you mentioned above lead the masses and see if millions of youth won't follow them...
TRIBALISM AND RELIGION WON'T MAKE NIGERIA BETTER...

Streetinvestor2:
The work is not by force.The so called civil servant don't contribute more than majority of Nigerians on the street doing 8-6 pm work and still get less than that amount. This civil
servant go to work by 9 and close 4pm without doing anything serious and don't work on Saturdays. An office that should not be more than 3 person,you will see like 10 people doing nothing. If you feel the money is not enough. You resign and try private work or get self employed.
Who is speaking for the hard working Nigerians in small businesses,artisian and petty traders who work more and still don't see 60k by month end

Don't use what's happening in your state to generalise about civil servants.

Civil servants in Lagos state are actively engaged to do the work they were employed to do.
Besides you haven't shown you know the type of work civil servants are expected to do.

They're not employed to work like factory workers but mainly to keep records of government activities.

If the governor of your state is not working, what do you want them to do ?

In abia state right now where the governor is very active, civil servants ,unlike before, are now actively engaged and doing their work and resuming everyday.

Blame the governor of any state where civil servants are idling about. You blame civil servants but never asked the question why they still retain their jobs without doing anything.

As for the small business and artisan, direct your blame and anger to those who came up with the minimum wage act that exempted those category of workers. Labour leaders over the years have been pushing for an amendment of the law to include those category of workers, but those in government in conjunction with some business owners in this country, who want to continuing exploiting their employees have been blocking the move.

Modified. I expected you to critically respond to what I said about your so called 100% increase. You didn't do that but to react emotionally.

Not likely or might just be on a particular year. Mind you federation does not mean federal government

frog12:
is this 71 percent even correct ?