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johnydon22:
■ What made you start asking questions?

Thugnificent:
■ Nothing really, the Bible is not a novel, neither is it a scientific textbook. Every wording is believed by Faith with the help of the holy Spirit. So if you keep on looking for discrepancies and error it will take an eternity because God the author never made it a common book. You could go read Harry Potter if u bored. But seriously, the word incarnate (Yeshua) has Fulfilled all written and unwritten aspects of Scripture by his death and resurrection. You choose to believe or not is your own cup of tea. But all men must give account of his actions or inactions in this present realities.

Kobojunkie:
None of the books contained lay claim to or suggests infallibility of its content. That ought to cause any reasonable individual out there to question the claim.

johnydon22:
■ Faith is an important thing in the lives of those who have it hence it makes sense they'd seek to protect it at all cost

johnydon22:
I heard you are a Muslim so on this thread I am going to completely ignore you since your input is irrelevant to my Inquiry

MightySparrow:
Antichristian or antichrist!

You don't have anything to argue about reasonably here.

1. Starting from the rear, translation is the problem here not the original text. He could use sobo or kunu. The thrust of the message is ordinary water was changed to something extra ordinary.

2.Sin against the Holy Spirit is not your problem now, you don't know the Holy Spirit, neither are you a partaker in our covenant.

3. Great is the mystery of godliness. I Time.3:16

HellVictorinho6:
Can u help me with 10k as a muslim?

AntiChristian:
I see folly all around your comment! It lacks substance! Typical of a Holy spirit filled you!

MaxInDHouse:
Please ask anyone to show you where the word "TRINITY" is found written in the Bible.

As for wine it is made from Grape fruit only when fermented that it becomes alcoholic!

johnydon22:
What if Christians provide logical explanations to this, would it change your mind?

MightySparrow:
What about a sheep as one of the editors of Quran?

AntiChristian:
Did the sheep eat the Qur'an from their memory too?
Have you ever seen a scripture being fully memorized by millions?

Chai see folly!

MightySparrow:
They memorize the satanic verses.


You know those verses that Satan influenced Mohammed (SAW) to recite?

(1) Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. – Bible : Judges (16) : 1.

(2) And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. – Bible : Genesis (19) : 33 – 36.

(3) And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve. – Bible : Genesis (35) : 22.

(4) And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. – Bible: Genesis (38) : 2.

(5) And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 8 – 9.

(6) When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 15 – 18.

(7) And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. – Bible : 2 Samuel (13) : 11 – 14.

( So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. – Bible : 2 Samuel (16) : 22.

(9) Thou hast played the LovePeddler also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. – Bible : Ezekiel (16) : 28.

(10) And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 3.

(11) And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 5 – 8.

(12) And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her unclothedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 11 – 21.

(13) My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. – Bible: Hosea (4) : 12.

(14) I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. – Bible : Hosea (6) : 10.

(15) Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. – Bible : Hosea (9) : 1.

(16) And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. – Bible : Genesis (9) : 21.

(17) And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? – Bible : 1 Samuel (19) : 24.

(18) Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! – Bible : 2 Samuel (6) : 20.

(19) So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. – Bible : Isaiah (20) : 4.

(20) And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; – Bible : Proverbs (7) : 7 – 22.

(21) Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. – Bible : Isaiah (13) : 16.

(22) And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. – Bible : Deuteronomy (22) : 17.

(23) While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts. – Bible : Song of Solomon (1) : 12 – 13.

(24) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. – Bible : Song of Solomon (4) : 5.

(25) I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favor. – Bible : Song of Solomon ( : 10.

(26) But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. – Bible : Numbers (31) : 18.

(27) This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 7 – 8.

(28) And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. – Bible : 2 Samuel (11) : 4.

(29) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins. – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 3.

johnydon22:
What if we point out some of these discrepancies right now would it change what you believe about the bible?

Kobojunkie:
This all amounts to religious gobbledegook. Not a single entry in any of the complied books suggests infallibility as a feature of its contents. So, a rational being ought to question where the idea comes from and how it cannot be traced back to the texts themselves.

AntiChristian:
No! I'd rather give my kins in need!

Charity begins at home!

HellVictorinho6:
Begins

So y stop at home?

AntiChristian:
Yes i know them! 29 Bleeping verses from the Bible!

AntiChristian:
We never finish for home!

Economy is in recovery!

MightySparrow:
What now is your problem with these verses?

johnydon22:
What if Christians provide logical explanations to this, would it change your mind?

AntiChristian:
Do a house fellowship with them as memory verses!
Include your women folks!

johnydon22:
I have heard many atheists, agnostics and irreligious people mention that they started down the rabbit hole of skepticism after reading the Bible and giving it a bit of a thought.

It may not be anything serious, something as tiny as a numerical inconsistency in biblical canon can shatter someone’s preconceived notion of biblical perfection which prompts them to start asking more profound and daring questions about everything derived from biblical canon.

What made you start asking questions?

Thugnificent:
Absolutely not!

The word is spirit breathed

Kobojunkie:
Where in any of the books contained in your bible is it written that this faith you speak of is meant to to be used in overlooking errors and contradictions contained within? Where is it written in Scripture that this faith you speak of is meant to be used in the way you suggest?

Image123:
i've always asked questions and more times received answers, maybe because i'm not asking foolish questions but more of sincere questions. The Bible is inspired by God and written by men. Expecting men to be God is the chief source of your folly.

johnydon22:
So, we could say that discrepancy or not, you would stick to your gun.

johnydon22:
■ You already making unfounded assumptions about me and beliefs presuming to know me without any information to inspire such confidence in your powers of deduction.

johnydon22:
Faith is an important thing in the lives of those who have it hence it makes sense they'd seek to protect it at all cost

Kobojunkie:
Was the following not a claim made by your person?

Thugnificent:
I said what I said and mean it too with my last drop of blood .

MightySparrow:
What about your prophet saying that sun sets in murky water. Did you memorize that one also?