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In Mark 14:68-72 (NIV) about Peter's denial of Jesus we read:

“68 But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

69 When the servant girl saw him there, she said again to those standing around, “This fellow is one of them.” 70 Again he denied it.

After a little while, those standing near said to Peter, “Surely you are one of them, for you are a Galilean.”

71 He began to call down curses, and he swore to them, “I don’t know this man you’re talking about.”

72 Immediately the rooster crowed the second time.”

Around the 5th century CE scribes thought it was odd that verse 72 mentions a rooster crowing a second time but that the Gospel narrative does not mention a rooster crowing a first time. Since Jesus was said to have predicted that Peter would deny him three times before the rooster crowed twice, it would not make sense to them that it had not mentioned the first crowing. The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae all added in after verse 68 as quoted above, a small but important addition:

και αλεκτωρ εφωνησεν which is “and a rooster crowed”.

Who added the above in bold "and a rooster crowed"?

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Mark 14:68 across various translations - Checking the addition - "and a rooster crowed"

1.New International Version
But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

2.New Living Translation
But Peter denied it. “I don’t know what you’re talking about,” he said, and he went out into the entryway. Just then, a rooster crowed.

3. English Standard Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you mean.” And he went out into the gateway and the rooster crowed.

4. Berean Standard Bible
But he denied it. “I do not know or even understand what you are talking about,” he said. Then he went out to the gateway, and the rooster crowed.

5. Berean Literal Bible
But he denied it, saying, "I neither know nor even understand what you say." And he went forth out into the porch; and the rooster crowed.

6. King James Bible
But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.

7. New King James Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are saying.” And he went out on the porch, and a rooster crowed.

8. New American Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

9. NASB 1995
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch, and a rooster crowed.

10. NASB 1977
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

11. Legacy Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out into the entryway.
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The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae!

Find something more worthwhile to do with your time

Una go just dey look for wetin no lost.... wether the rooster crowed or not, what difference does it make?....believe in Christ, follow his teachings and forget about the rooster.

Small time you will be seeking to know who owned the rooster...

This is worthwhile! The scriptural errors are just too much!

NoahHadNoArk:
Find something more worthwhile to do with your time

Ever8090:
Una go just dey look for wetin no lost.... wether the roaster crowed or not, what difference dies it make?....believe in Christ, follow his teachings and forget about the roaster.

Small time you will be seeking to know who owned the roaster...

I don't believe the ends only should justify the means! Both the ends and the means should be authentic!
That your thinking that even if the scripture is corrupt just believe in Jesus is erroneously faulty!

I believe in Jesus as a man approved by God!
But the Bible is corrupted!

AbuTwins:
This is worthwhile! The scriptural errors are just too much!





I don't believe the ends only should justify the means! Both the ends and the means should be authentic!
That your thinking that even if the scripture is corrupt just believe in Jesus is erroneously faulty!

I believe in Jesus as a man approved by God!
But the Bible is corrupted!

ok....but did you see the man that corrupted the scripture here on nairaland?.. ...beside, which one is your own religion?

Ever8090:
ok....but did you see the man that corrupted the scripture here on nairaland?.. ...beside, which one is your own religion?

Yes! I am looking for him!

Are you the one?

AbuTwins:
This is worthwhile! The scriptural errors are just too much!





I don't believe the ends only should justify the means! Both the ends and the means should be authentic!
That your thinking that even if the scripture is corrupt just believe in Jesus is erroneously faulty!

I believe in Jesus as a man approved by God!
But the Bible is corrupted!

This is where foolishness meets hypocrisy, have you really examined your "glorious" quran for errors?
The Bible says "all scriptures were given by "INSPIRATION", not by dictation like your quran claims, the meaning there is there is room for misquoting or errors in the Bible, but then the purpose of the scriptures is to teach about the Love of God and that is all you ever need to worry about, not who added a "T" or who removed an "I". Thats why the Bible says The letter killeth, you cant understand any of it anyway because you are born and bred in hypocrisy.

Mvnster:
This is where foolishness meets hypocrisy, have you really examined your "glorious" quran for errors?

This thread is particularly for the errors in the Bible not Qu'ran! Foolishness and madness is discussing the Qur'an whenever the Bible is being discussed!

The Bible says "all scriptures were given by "INSPIRATION", not by dictation like your quran claims, the meaning there is there is room for misquoting or errors in the Bible,

The Bible has no mouth to speak! Paul is alleged to have said that in 2 Timothy 3:16. Paul wrote his letters independently and it wasn't meant to be collated together what you have today! A scripture that is inspired shouldn't contain errors and mistakes like we have seen in the Bible!

but then the purpose of the scriptures is to teach about the Love of God and that is all you ever need to worry about, not who added a "T" or who removed an "I". Thats why the Bible says The letter killeth, you cant understand any of it anyway because you are born and bred in hypocrisy.

I think I understand you well. The letter kills. So you just read it like that and believe it all even when there are clear errors!

God is not the author of confusion! And there's need to worry about everything my salvation is dependent on!

My salvation won't be based on a collection of lies which I have to accept by faith because one Paul came after Jesus to propose that the letter killeth!

Why not throw away all his letters then?

AbuTwins:
In Mark 14:68-72 (NIV) about Peter's denial of Jesus we read:

“68 But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

69 When the servant girl saw him there, she said again to those standing around, “This fellow is one of them.” 70 Again he denied it.

After a little while, those standing near said to Peter, “Surely you are one of them, for you are a Galilean.”

71 He began to call down curses, and he swore to them, “I don’t know this man you’re talking about.”

72 Immediately the rooster crowed the second time.”

Around the 5th century CE scribes thought it was odd that verse 72 mentions a rooster crowing a second time but that the Gospel narrative does not mention a rooster crowing a first time. Since Jesus was said to have predicted that Peter would deny him three times before the rooster crowed twice, it would not make sense to them that it had not mentioned the first crowing. The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae all added in after verse 68 as quoted above, a small but important addition:

και αλεκτωρ εφωνησεν which is “and a rooster crowed”.

Who added the above in bold "and a rooster crowed"?

......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Mark 14:68 across various translations - Checking the addition - "and a rooster crowed"

1.New International Version
But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

2.New Living Translation
But Peter denied it. “I don’t know what you’re talking about,” he said, and he went out into the entryway. Just then, a rooster crowed.

3. English Standard Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you mean.” And he went out into the gateway and the rooster crowed.

4. Berean Standard Bible
But he denied it. “I do not know or even understand what you are talking about,” he said. Then he went out to the gateway, and the rooster crowed.

5. Berean Literal Bible
But he denied it, saying, "I neither know nor even understand what you say." And he went forth out into the porch; and the rooster crowed.

6. King James Bible
But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.

7. New King James Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are saying.” And he went out on the porch, and a rooster crowed.

8. New American Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

9. NASB 1995
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch, and a rooster crowed.

10. NASB 1977
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

11. Legacy Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out into the entryway.
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The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae!

When you mentioned 72, I was thinking of the 72 houris awaiting you in Al - Jaanah and rivers of rum. .
You will enjoy toto tire!
I think the wine will be burantashi
Eternal erection.

MightySparrow:
When you mentioned 72, I was thinking of the 72 houris awaiting you in Al - Jaanah and rivers of rum. .
You will enjoy toto tire!
I think the wine will be burantashi
Eternal erection.

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