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| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Goodvibes007: 6:48pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Wahabfuture:Kanu is like 100 times smarter than the Ekpa. And he got arrested. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 6:48pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Look at this two illiterates arguing with themselves
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| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 6:49pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
AlexBells:Lol..... Probably one person from your family that sneaked to Lagos on a night bus enjoyed and benefited from Chief Awolowo's free education policy and ideology.....lol.... ![]() |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 6:49pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
A referendum can be done on anything including the unity of Nigeria. Remember, the constitution is meant for the people and not the people for the constitution. If the issue of secession cannot be discussed in constitution amendment today, it means even if it was in the 1960 constitution, it'd have been removed. Resource control was there but removed in the 1999 constitution Kukutente23: |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Goodvibes007: 6:51pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Form the horses mouth himself How Ibos Gave The NORTH The Edge To Run NIGERIA |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 6:54pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Goodvibes007:I was on a twitter space of IPOB members yesterday. I laughed so hard I almost fell of my seat when they started asking for donation to buy groundnuts as they called it (bullets) for the boys on ground. How can people that claim to be educated, even the ones abroad, fall for such grifter like Ekpa. It was very obvious Ekpa was just using their heads to enrich himself. Even Kanu warmed them against Ekpa 😂 |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 6:56pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
confusedlady:And how did that leave Lagos? Deep in debt just like other western states. You foolery forgot teachers don’t fall from heaven but paid. You guys deserve to be recolonized |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 6:59pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
7lives:That's the tragedy called a Nigerian A Nigerian is still answering a colonial name a white woman created in London over 100 years ago, as his national identity A Nigerian is still claiming a country the British created over over 100 years ago, as his own A Nigerian is still talking about if Zik wanted secession clause in 1954, 70 years ago But once you say let's allow people to decide their name and country in 2024, via referendum, they will say no So how does the Nigerian think he will ever get anywhere in this jet age with such backward looking mindset? The union of Nigeria has been a disaster, the British should never have brought us together |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Goodvibes007: 6:59pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
TimeManager:Zik was stupid, but also not very stupid. He was able to manipulate the north to help wrestle Bendel from the Western region to create the Midwest, but Zik and Bello refused to give up the minorities in their own region. I.e. South South and North Central respectively. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 7:01pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Kukutente23:(1) I am an Igbo and we all knew what we want (2) ,is sit at home not enough proof? yes the people obey and enjoy it so much, can you stop asking me childish questions? we vote because we are still part of Nigeria at the moment which gives us right to vote until we are no longer part of Nigeria, you still remain unity beggar and you know that deep down your heart |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 7:06pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
confusedlady:Stop making fun of yourself on Nairaland, he's a useless bigot |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 7:07pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Wahabfuture:I'm not arguing with him I'm telling it as it is. I'm not into all this useless Yoruba vs Igbo e-fights. Azikiwe could only become PM if he aligned with Awo's AG. That's what the 1960 Constitution says. The party with the highest seats in a coalition produces the PM. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by erniok2: 7:14pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:He wanted out. He was a core tribalist but wasn't called to the presentation. If he had appeared, I doubt if the country Nigeria would have existed today. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 7:15pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Had Zik aligned with Awo, the sardunna would have exited the union. He sees the rest of us southerners, as infidels and the last thing he needed was to place himself and his people under the rule of infidels. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Raf4: 7:28pm On Jun 06, 2024*. Modified: 10:23pm On Nov 16, 2025 |
Armaggedon:You people are just too daftt to think that Awolowo, a blooody civilian, should have led the SW/Yoruba people in joining Biafra war to secede from Nigeria. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by CJStarz: 7:30pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
hegelian:You don finish the guy so😂 |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 7:30pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:All these talk of Constitution got the people is philosophical B'S. It doesn't mean anything tangible in the real world. Resource control was removed by Gowon in the 1970s not 1999 Constitution. The 1999 Constitution is silent about it which is why the NASS could make a law for 13% derivation. By the wordings of the Constitution however, secession is not allowed so a question if referendum can't arise |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 7:34pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Goodvibes007:Who is this horse and how does this drivel prove that Zik thought he could become PM in a coalition with NPC? Are you saying Zik was not aware of how govts are formed in a parliamentary system |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 7:36pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
T9ksy:How would he have exited the Union? By secession? How will that be possible? |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 7:44pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Constitution is just a document on how we chose to govern ourselves, its not some sacred document to worship. We can and should change it. We can then introduce the secession clause. We're alive and can do what we want Kukutente23: |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 7:47pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
But when Awolowo and the North through Gowon got power, the made such nobody goes out. Thats means they never really wanted out erniok2: |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(op): 7:48pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:Simon Ekpa already conducted Leflendum in Alaigbo so let Ibo implement it |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 7:50pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
You have narrow mind. Listen to elders like Akintoye, nothing good will come out of Nigeria if things are not changed drastically Peterobiisathie: |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 7:50pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Wahabfuture:Okay....marked for future reference...... |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by erniok2: 7:54pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:How did you come about Awolowo made sure no one got out. Any proof. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 7:57pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Wahabfuture:Let me get you straight. Are you saying you're being forced to vote? I think the sit at home is more forced than voluntary. People are scared for their safety. No such thing when it comes to voting. That said, are you saying if Obi were to become president today, the Igbo agenda required if him will be to actualize Biafra? I'm sure you and I will agree that will not be the case. There are almost as many Igbo outside Biafra as there are in Biafra. Igbo have more stake and benefit in Nigeria collectively than any other tribe |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 8:03pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:That's true but the majority don't want that. Like let's look at it from this view How do you think the referendum will look like? Is it going to be confined to the East or throughout the country? Who will move the motion in the present structure? Who will oversee the referendum? You'll agree it's a near impossibility |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 8:04pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
Kukutente23:And who would have stopped him? In fact, after their successful revenge coup, their next chant was "Araba" until they were convinced to stay, and dominate the country with their new found power. |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 8:07pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
T9ksy:Was the sadaurna not dead before the coup? There's no way the North will have seceded in 1960 |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 8:11pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
He was a proponent of dividing the 4 regions to 12 states with the creation of Lagos State( different from the original Lagos colony) He also made sure Biafra never succeed by suggesting starvation to Gowon and justifying it with the statement that all is fair in war(its against the Geneva convention to use starvation by way of food blockade) Awolowo fears domination so much that he wants to remain in Nigeria but doesn't wanna be alone with the North erniok2: |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 8:22pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
DMerciful:This is not true. Federalism of states was actually initially advocated by Tafawa Balewa in 1954 |
| Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 8:34pm On Jun 06, 2024 |
It was advocated by Balewa but the execution and concunrrence were by Gowon and Awolowo Una just absolved Awolowo of everything when his fight with Akintola led to the coup Kukutente23: |
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