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1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 11:30am On Jun 08, 2024
Question 1
If the earliest Christians within the first two centuries after Jesus did not need a New Testament to qualify their faith, why do modern Christians have such a need? If they did not sanction or consider any other writing beside the Old Testament to be scripture, then isn’t it a digression from the ‘true faith‘ of the earliest believers to incorporate something new as scripture?

The first New Testament was codified and canonized by the heretic Marcion who believed that the Jewish YHWH was not the true God, the first time the largest Christian Church sanctioned a New Testament was during the 2nd Ecumenical Council of Carthage in 397 CE, some 360+ years after Jesus.
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:55am On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
Question 1
If the earliest Christians within the first two centuries after Jesus did not need a New Testament to qualify their faith, why do modern Christians have such a need? If they did not sanction or consider any other writing beside the Old Testament to be scripture, then isn’t it a digression from the ‘true faith‘ of the earliest believers to incorporate something new as scripture?
The Scriptures isn't about what one prophet did or how God dealt with the nation of Israel rather it's about the continuous history of how God brought obedient mankind out of Adamic sin through the ransom sacrifice of the Christ so don't be surprised that in the New system of things more books will be included as scriptures until God declared that we can live forever! smiley
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 11:59am On Jun 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The Scriptures isn't about what one prophet did or how God dealt with the nation of Israel rather it's about the continuous history of how God brought obedient mankind out of Adamic sin through the ransom sacrifice of so don't be surprised that in the New system of things more books will be included as scriptures until God declared that we can live forever! smiley
How does this answer the question?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:08pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
How does this answer the question?
Scriptures according to your own religion may be what your God revealed to your prophet but Scriptures according to the God of Israel continues until the end of badness that's what God meant when He referred to Himself as the alpha and omega He will continue to reveal things we need until we get everlasting life all will surely be incorporated into the SCRIPTURES! smiley
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 12:40pm On Jun 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Scriptures according to your own religion may be what your God revealed to your prophet but Scriptures according to the God of Israel continues until the end of badness that's what God meant when He referred to Himself as the alpha and omega He will continue to reveal things we need until we get everlasting life all will surely be incorporated into the SCRIPTURES! smiley
Sir, do re-read the question and answer appropriately! embarassed
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:42pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
Sir, do re-read the question and answer appropriately! :-
The first Scriptures were written by Moses and from that time whatever happens to God's people continues to be included as part of the scriptures.
Note the phrase that started the scriptures:

"In the beginning" Genesis 1:1

Scriptures will no longer be written when the last inspired writer pen down this phrase:

"in the end" or "the end">

Until then God will continue to inspire writers to pen down all the troubles mankind experienced due to the first sin.

So calm down my Muslim friend God's people will still include all the things they did in our time as part of the scriptures until:

The end!
smiley
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by SEGLIZ:
AntiChristian:
How does this answer the question?
no individual will answer your questions because they have nothing to do with your search.

besides God transcend religion, Jesus isn't about religion. you need the same scripture you question to answer your question.

God Almighty, Jesus and the scripture are basically spirituality as such you don't expect to solve spirituality with the physical.

AntiChristian:
Why can't you guys just simply answer the question instead of fiddling around?
we don't need the Bible to qualify our faith rather we need the Bible to 'Guide, Teach and reprove us.' mind you faith is your strong belief in something you can't see but strongly held on to.

AntiChristian:
Sir, do re-read the question and answer appropriately! embarassed
MaxInDHouse:
Scriptures according to your own religion may be what your God revealed to your prophet but Scriptures according to the God of Israel continues until the end of badness that's what God meant when He referred to Himself as the alpha and omega He will continue to reveal things we need until we get everlasting life all will surely be incorporated into the SCRIPTURES! smiley
the above seem to have answered your question but not appropriately.
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:55pm On Jun 08, 2024
SEGLIZ:
no individual will answer your questions because they have nothing to do with your search.
besides God transcend religion, Jesus isn't about religion. you need the same scripture you question to answer your question.
God Almighty, Jesus and the scripture are basically spiritually as such you don't expect to solve spirituality with the physical.
As a former Muslim i perfectly understand where he's coming from, in the religion any question their clerics raise will be huge in their minds as if that is what they can use to condemn the Bible but then honest hearted and sincere individuals among them knows that something is wrong when you can't preach and teach what your faith says except having to trail other religions! wink
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 12:59pm On Jun 08, 2024
SEGLIZ:
no individual will answer your questions because they have nothing to do with your search.

besides God transcend religion, Jesus isn't about religion. you need the same scripture you question to answer your question.

God Almighty, Jesus and the scripture are basically spiritually as such you don't expect to solve spirituality with the physical.
Why can't you guys just simply answer the question instead of fiddling around?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 10:10am On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
As a former Muslim i perfectly understand where he's coming from, in the religion any question their clerics raise will be huge in their minds as if that is what they can use to condemn the Bible but then honest hearted and sincere individuals among them knows that something is wrong when you can't preach and teach what your faith says except having to trail other religions! wink
So your JW brother no dey trail other religion? cool
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:15am On Jun 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
So your JW brother no dey trail other religion? cool
Did you missed the part that says:

something is wrong when you can't preach and teach what your faith says except
Ever since you joined this forum you have not for once preach what your religion have apart from running after other religions.

Sign that your religion can't stand on its own! huh
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 10:19am On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Did you missed the part that says:

Ever since you joined this forum you have not for once preach what your religion have apart from running after other religions.

Sign that your religion can't stand on its own! huh
Who told you i am not preaching it?

That you can't say!

In fact, this my method is a way of preaching too!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31am On Jun 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
Who told you i am not preaching it?
That you can't say!
In fact, this my method is a way of preaching too!
The highlighted is why i left Islam!

If all the religions are to start speaking against one another instead of presenting what they have how do think this world will be? smiley
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 3:32pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is why i left Islam!

If all the religions are to start speaking against one another instead of presenting what they have how do think this world will be? smiley
Doesn't the Bible speak bad about other religions?
And is this not hypocrisy?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:48pm On Jun 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
Doesn't the Bible speak bad about other religions?
And is this not hypocrisy?
Books were written and the Author which you and i know is God inspired the writers to pen it down that some religions are false.
So it's left for us to figure out the only true religion not the false nah!

Take for instance if you find yourself in a place where dollars is the currency in circulation and you heard or realized that there are lots of fake dollars in town is it features of the fake you will want to study or that of the one and only original?

The same applies to religion. There are thousands of religions all claiming they're from God it makes no sense studying or talking about all the fake religions as it won't help any right thinking person as you don't have all the time in the world to study all the fake religions the only way to benefit yourself and those close to you is knowing all the features of the original so after knowing the features of the one and only original any one not having the same features is FAKE.

What do you think about that? smiley
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 3:55pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Books were written and the Author which you and i know is God inspired the writers to pen it down that some religions are false.
So it's left for us to figure out the only true religion not the false nah!

Take for instance if you find yourself in a place where dollars is the currency in circulation and you heard or realized that there are lots of fake dollars in town is it features of the fake you will want to study or that of the one and only original?

The same applies to religion. There are thousands of religions all claiming they're from God it makes no sense studying or talking about all the fake religions as it won't help any right thinking person as you don't have all the time in the world to study all the fake religions the only way to benefit yourself and those close to you is knowing all the features of the original so after knowing the features of the one and only original any one not having the same features is FAKE.

What do you think about that? smiley
Your Bible can accuse other religions but others can't accuse it.
Is this not hypocrisy?

Remove the plank in your face first...
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:56pm On Jun 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
Your Bible can accuse other religions but others can't accuse it.
Is this not hypocrisy?
Remove the plank in your face first...
Did the Bible accuse the Quran? undecided
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 4:04pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Did the Bible accuse the Quran? undecided
The Bible was not aware of the Qur'an!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:04pm On Jun 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
The Bible was not aware of the Qur'an!
Did the Bible accuse any other religious book?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 5:41am On Jun 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Did the Bible accuse any other religious book?
Does the Bible recognise any religious book?
People in the Bible derep the law!

The disciples of Jesus and Paul had issues as regards obeying the laws of the Torah!

Paul calls other religions Baal and darkness that must not be equally yoked with!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AkinwaleJJ(f): 6:03am On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
Does the Bible recognise any religious book?
People in the Bible derep the law!
The disciples of Jesus and Paul had issues as regards obeying the laws of the Torah!
Paul calls other religions Baal and darkness that must not be equally yoked with!
It seems you don't understand the question.

Did the Bible mention any religious book at all?

That's the question!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 9:51am On Jun 12, 2024
AkinwaleJJ:
It seems you don't understand the question.

Did the Bible mention any religious book at all?

That's the question!
Jesus in Matthew 5:17 did mention no religious book directly but mentions the law of Moses and writings of the Prophets!

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. (NLT)
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AkinwaleJJ(f): 10:21am On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
Jesus in Matthew 5:17 did mention no religious book directly but mentions the law of Moses and writings of the Prophets!

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. (NLT)
So in a nutshell the Bible never condemned any religious book.
That's why you can't see me speak badly of any religious book! undecided
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 10:43am On Jun 12, 2024
AkinwaleJJ:
So in a nutshell the Bible never condemned any religious book.
That's why you can't see me speak badly of any religious book! undecided
Okay, but your Bible condemned other religions right?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AkinwaleJJ(f): 12:16pm On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
Okay, but your Bible condemned other religions right?
Of course all religions including yours (Islam) condemned others.

Will you like to know why?
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 12:21pm On Jun 12, 2024
AkinwaleJJ:
Of course all religions including yours (Islam) condemned others.

Will you like to know why?
Make we hear...
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AkinwaleJJ(f): 12:27pm On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
Make we hear...
Each religion is backed by one powerful spirit or another so the worshipers act in line with all the desires of these spirits.
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by StillDtruth: 2:12pm On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
Question 1
If the earliest Christians within the first two centuries after Jesus did not need a New Testament to qualify their faith, why do modern Christians have such a need? If they did not sanction or consider any other writing beside the Old Testament to be scripture, then isn’t it a digression from the ‘true faith‘ of the earliest believers to incorporate something new as scripture?

The first New Testament was codified and canonized by the heretic Marcion who believed that the Jewish YHWH was not the true God, the first time the largest Christian Church sanctioned a New Testament was during the 2nd Ecumenical Council of Carthage in 397 CE, some 360+ years after Jesus.
Uncle Muslim, common sense would have told you that it is the end of a matter that concludes a matter. So, use your koran live!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 4:20pm On Jun 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
Uncle Muslim, common sense would have told you that it is the end of a matter that concludes a matter. So, use your koran live!
The real common sense if shutting up when there's nothing meaningful upstairs to share!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 4:22pm On Jun 12, 2024
AkinwaleJJ:
Each religion is backed by one powerful spirit or another so the worshipers act in line with all the desires of these spirits.
What spirit dey with JW GC?

What spirit dey RCCG?

What spirit dey winners, C & S, CAC, etc
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AkinwaleJJ(f): 4:49pm On Jun 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
What spirit dey with JW GC?
What spirit dey RCCG?
What spirit dey winners, C & S, CAC, etc
By their FRUITS you'll know! Matthew 7:15-20

If you're intelligent you should know that each religion can only be active in what the spirit is doing.
Jesus commanded his disciples saying:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:19-20

All these different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Jesus is with them but which religion is ACTIVE globally in what Jesus said here?

That's how to know the spirit in each religion!
Re: 1 of 10 Questions Christians won't like to answer by AntiChristian(op): 5:28pm On Jun 12, 2024
AkinwaleJJ:
By their FRUITS you'll know! Matthew 7:15-20

If you're intelligent you should know that each religion can only be active in what the spirit is doing.
Jesus commanded his disciples saying:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:19-20

All these different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Jesus is with them but which religion is ACTIVE globally in what Jesus said here?

That's how to know the spirit in each religion!
When you say by their fruits you shall know them, even the disciple Peter denied Jesus many times and another betrayed him. That's bad fruit too!

No wonder Jesus called Peter Satan!
Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” Matthew 16:23

And the disciples did not baptized anyone in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit!

They only Baptized in Jesus name!
Probably they forgot what they were thought!

In the book of Acts in the Bible, there are several verses that mention the disciples baptizing in Jesus's name. Here are a few examples:

- Acts 2:38: "Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'"
- Acts 8:16: "Because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
- Acts 10:48: "So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days."
- Acts 19:5: "On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
So you lack premises sir!
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