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Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op):
If the state governors are insisting of not going to pay N60k which even when consider with the current economy of Nigeria, the amount is still low, then when would this new minimum wage be solved.

Left to FG, then can pay N100k convincingly but would the states and Private sectors be able to afford it? No

Let FG have their own standard minimum wage, NGF also decide on which minimum wage they can pay and also the private sectors coming up with what they can pay.

What exactly is the purpose of increasing minimum wage which should be standard but states and Private sectors always use different minimum wage. States that are still paying N18K means they don't use minimum wage, some private sectors pay as low as N10k as minimum wage like security work.

The formulation of standard basic minimum wage across Nigeria is not working.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by slivertongue: 8:01am On Jun 09, 2024
that should be it. different living salaries
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 8:03am On Jun 09, 2024
slivertongue:
that should be it. different living salaries
Let's forget about state and FG, even N50k as minimum wage, the private sectors would struggle to pay it.

Fingers are not equal oo
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by kingsways: 8:10am On Jun 09, 2024
They can't have different minimum wages because minimum is MINIMUM!

That's the basic that should enable an individual meet his / her basic needs as a human being. Anyone can choose to pay more BUT no one should be allowed to pay less because to pay less is to dehumanise people and that is not acceptable
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 8:13am On Jun 09, 2024
kingsways:
They can't have different minimum wages because minimum is MINIMUM!

That's the basic that should enable an individual meet his / her basic needs as a human being. Anyone can choose to pay more BUT no one should be allowed to pay less because to pay less is to dehumanise people and that is not acceptable
How many sectors are currently paying N30k as minimum wage? Are there no states still paying N18k as minimum wage.

The concept of standard basic minimum wage is from Capitalists ideas which have not been working.

General minimum wage in a country like Nigeria can't work.

Are you telling me a school owner in a village which all the students are not up to 20 would pay his staff N50k as minimum wage?

It's time to be realistic about this minimum wage issue and fix whatever issue once and for all
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by SadiqBabaSani: 8:15am On Jun 09, 2024
Because Minimum wage is on exclusive list
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by BossGerald: 8:17am On Jun 09, 2024
When you start voting right, not defending uneducated buhari for 8 wasted years only to turn around to start buttlicking another certificate forging drug kingpin.


No dey disguise
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by EcoNews: 8:31am On Jun 09, 2024
Anambra state in 2024 is barely paying 18K minimum wage legacy of Peter [sup]Pandora[/b] Obi, you won't see Igbo n obidient celebrate that.

How will such a state pay the old 30K or the new 60 - 100K that is being proposed ?

Add Abia state to it that one is aso yet to implement old minimum wage of 30K, you now expect them to pay 60-100K.






helinues:
How many sectors are currently paying N30k as minimum wage? Are there no states still paying N18k as minimum wage.

The concept of standard basic minimum wage is from Capitalists ideas which have not been working.

General minimum wage in a country like Nigeria can't work.

Are you telling me a school owner in a village which all the students are not up to 20 would pay his staff N50k as minimum wage?

It's time to be realistic about this minimum wage issue and fix whatever issue once and for all

kingsways post=130377586:
They can't have different minimum wages because minimum is MINIMUM!

That's the basic that should enable an individual meet his / her basic needs as a human being. Anyone can choose to pay more BUT no one should be allowed to pay less because to pay less is to dehumanise people and that is not acceptable
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by budaatum: 8:37am On Jun 09, 2024
The question I would rather ask is why would anyone settle for minimum wage when there's lots of skills that can be learned to maximise ones wages?

Do people need to settle for minimum wage when they can learn and maximise their wage potential?
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 8:38am On Jun 09, 2024
budaatum:
The question I would rather ask is why would anyone settle for minimum wage when there's lots of skills that can be learned to maximise ones wages?

Do people need to settle for minimum wage when they can learn and maximise their wage potential?
Africans mentality about job after graduation is white collar job. Not even aside business after that even upon how creative we used to claim
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by kingsways: 8:39am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
How many sectors are currently paying N30k as minimum wage? Are there no states still paying N18k as minimum wage.

The concept of standard basic minimum wage is from Capitalists ideas which have not been working.

General minimum wage in a country like Nigeria can't work.

Are you telling me a school owner in a village which all the students are not up to 20 would pay his staff N50k as minimum wage?

It's time to be realistic about this minimum wage issue and fix whatever issue once and for all
Any employer that is not paying is breaking the law, is a criminal and must be treated as such
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by budaatum: 8:42am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Africans mentality about job after graduation is white collar job. Not even aside business after that even upon how creative we used to claim
For minimum wage after graduation?

Anyone who accepts minimum wage after graduation did not learn anything, and should go back to school for more education. They also need to realise that the world is big instead of limiting themselves to Nigeria.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by kingsways: 8:47am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
How many sectors are currently paying N30k as minimum wage? Are there no states still paying N18k as minimum wage.

The concept of standard basic minimum wage is from Capitalists ideas which have not been working.

General minimum wage in a country like Nigeria can't work.

Are you telling me a school owner in a village which all the students are not up to 20 would pay his staff N50k as minimum wage?

It's time to be realistic about this minimum wage issue and fix whatever issue once and for all
There's a minimum level of investment that is required to run a business. You do not have the right to employ people if you cannot afford to pay the legal minimum wage.

All villages should have government schools. Private schools who can't afford to pay the minimum wage should not be approved by government because such schools can only employ substandard teachers and can only provide poor education
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 8:53am On Jun 09, 2024
budaatum:
For minimum wage after graduation?

Anyone who accepts minimum wage after graduation did not learn anything, and should go back to school for more education. They also need to realise that the world is big instead of limiting themselves to Nigeria.
Hahahah, are the civil servants not graduates? Servants was added for a reason now..

grin
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 8:55am On Jun 09, 2024
kingsways:
There's a minimum level of investment that is required to run a business. You do not have the right to employ people if you cannot afford to pay the legal minimum wage.

All villages should have government schools. Private schools who can't afford to pay the minimum wage should not be approved by government because such schools can only employ substandard teachers and can only provide poor education
Until corrections about what you listed above are fixed, meaning using standard minimum wage for all can never work
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Lindlady(f): 8:59am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Until corrections about what you listed above are fixed, meaning using standard minimum wage for all can never work
Do you want to earn the new minimum wage? Hurry up ok.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by budaatum: 9:15am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Hahahah, are the civil servants not graduates? Servants was added for a reason now..

grin
A nice way of saying slaves, I guess. It makes the minimum wage strike sound like a please don't beat me strike.

I guess we need to fight to abolish slavery at some point, and here we are.

Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by slivertongue: 9:16am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Let's forget about state and FG, even N50k as minimum wage, the private sectors would struggle to pay it.

Fingers are not equal oo
which sector in the private sector?
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by bjdon: 9:23am On Jun 09, 2024
I agree, we supposed to be practicing the Federal system. States and LG's are supposed to be autonomus. The FG can't declare what a state should pay as minumum wage, anymore than it can declare what a state or LG should collect in tax. Let each state set it's own minimum wage for it's workers. That will also encourage internal competion between the states as people will then ask, "if Edo can pay 70k, why can't Delta/Rivers/Kaduna/Kanao/Akwa ibom./Anambra/Lagos..... do the same or more?"
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 9:35am On Jun 09, 2024
budaatum:
A nice way of saying slaves, I guess. It makes the minimum wage strike sound like a please don't beat me strike.

I guess we need to fight to abolish slavery at some point, and here we are.
https://www.nairaland.com/8038722/current-education-system-modern-day
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Usmanovic95(m): 9:55am On Jun 09, 2024
If we have a minimum wage peg at 60k and have a maximum wage peg at either 200-250k,and phase out some denomination like 1k and 500 note,I think it can help curb this inflation to some degree.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Blue3k(m): 10:41am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Let FG have their own standard minimum wage, NGF also decide on which minimum wage they can pay and also the private sectors coming up with what they can pay.

What's exactly is the purpose of increasing minimum wage which should be standard but states and Private sectors always use different minimum wage. States that are still paying N18K means they don't use minimum wage, some private sectors pay as low as N10k as minimum wage like security work.
The answer is the labor unions lobbying the federal government on the matter. They want an increase across the board for obvious reasons. The federal government doesn't have to adjust the minimum wage to adjust its pay rate. The federal government officials aren't clever enough to kick the issue to the states telling labor to negotiate with their state representatives. States can set wages higher than the federal minimum. (Adjust the laws to state such if they dont)

The reason states get away with pay below minimum wage is because the Federal government won't enforce the law. Nobody is going to fined or put in jail. If they were they would obey the law. The consequences will be increased taxes or sacking. The private sector do whatever their legally obligated to do because labor courts will go after them.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 10:42am On Jun 09, 2024
Blue3k:
The answer is the labor unions lobbying the federal government on the matter. They want an increase across the board for obvious reasons. The federal government doesn't have to adjust the minimum wage to adjust its pay rate. The federal government officials aren't clever enough to kick the issue to the states telling labor to negotiate with their state representatives. States can set wages higher than the federal minimum. (Adjust the laws to state such if they dont)

The reason states get away with pay below minimum wage is because the Federal government won't enforce the law. Nobody is going to fined or put in jail. If they were they would obey the law. The consequences will be increased taxes or sacking. The private sector do whatever their legally obligated to do because labor courts will go after them.
Then let them have different minimum wage instead of using the general one that others won't abide by
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Blue3k(m): 10:48am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
Then let them have different minimum wage instead of using the general one that others won't abide by
The government sets the minimum wage. They should just enforce their laws. Acting like the government is powerless is silly. The don't abide because the FG chooses not to prosecute. This issue is handled easily in the United States how I stated. Nigerians just like making simple issues complicated.

Note the federal miminum wage in the USA is $7.25/hr.

Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 10:59am On Jun 09, 2024
Blue3k:
The government sets the minimum wage. They should just enforce their laws. Acting like the government is powerless is silly. The don't abide because the FG chooses not to prosecute. This issue is handled easily in the United States and how I stated. Nigerians just like making simple issues complicated.

Note the federal miminum wage I'm the USA is $7.25/hr.
How much do you think would be reasonable and considerable enough to be the minimum basic wage in Nigeria?

Considering all sectors, FG and states
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Blue3k(m): 11:02am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
How much do you think would be reasonable and considerable enough to be the minimum basic wage in Nigeria?
I don't know or care. That conversation is between employee and employer. If I have to guess 80k-100k 🤷🏿.
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 11:06am On Jun 09, 2024
Blue3k:
I don't know or care. That conversation is between employee and employer. If I have to guess 80k-100k 🤷🏿.
That's where the problem lies. Most people are more concerned about Labour's minimum wage proposal without considering other sectors.

What's the population of all the government workers compared to those who worked in private sectors. Even the said government workers are mostly ghost workers
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Blue3k(m): 11:12am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
That's where the problem lies. Most people are more concerned about Labour's minimum wage proposal without considering other sectors.

What's the population of all the government workers compared to those who worked in private sectors. Even the said government workers are mostly ghost workers
Oh well they will learn their lessons eventually 🤷🏿 when the are not hired sacked. Employers can only justify paying you if you're profitable in the private sector. The public sector will take your tax naira. Until the Federal government wises up to the shake down or gets inflation under control they will have this fight every decade.

Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by helinues(op): 11:15am On Jun 09, 2024
Blue3k:
Oh well they will learn their lessons eventually 🤷🏿 when the are not hired sacked. Employers can only justify paying you if you're profitable in the private sector. The public sector will take your tax naira. Until the Federal government wises up to the shake down or gets inflation under control they will have this fight every decade.
Honestly, the name given to government workers is a deliberate blackmailing name.

Civil Servants

Civil: meaning to be Obidients to whatever they say

Servants: More like a slave or errands people
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by AcadaWriter: 11:18am On Jun 09, 2024
that should be it. different living salaries
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by Kukutente23: 11:40am On Jun 09, 2024
They can have different minimum wage. That's actually the norm. Edo is paying 70k while federal is paying 30k presently.
But there's a baseline and that's the federal minimum wage. It's the same all over the world in conformity with ILO rules
Re: Why Can't FG, State And Private Sectors Have Different Minimum Wage? by budaatum: 12:43pm On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
https://www.nairaland.com/8038722/current-education-system-modern-day
Are you telling me you are one of if those "skool na scam" people?

helinues:
You need to get a degree, after degree, master, PhD, HHC, NNPC while wasting years away working for those who designed the same education system.
You can't possibly have degree, master, PhD and think education is worthless. Only people who barely have school certificate think like you reason in that thread, as has been pointed out to you there.
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